WaPo: Assault-weapons ban is probably DOA

posted at 2:31 pm on January 29, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Alternate headline: Math isn’t hard after all.  The Washington Post’s Aaron Blake offers multiple reasons why Dianne Feinstein’s assault-weapons ban won’t be going anywhere in the Senate, and the first reason isn’t even the fact that Democrats can’t get anywhere near the 60 votes to bring the bill to a vote.  The first clue is that Joe Biden more or less dismissed it during his Google hangout the day after Feinstein announced the bill:

The same day that Feinstein introduced the bill, Biden suggested that magazine sizes were the most important part of a gun control package. ”I’m much less concerned, quite frankly, about what you call an assault weapon than I am about magazines and the number of rounds that can be held in a magazine,” Biden said in a Google Hangout. He added that “more people out there get shot with a Glock that has cartridges in a (high-capacity magazine)” and also suggested that shotguns are more deadly than so-called assault weapons. Biden then again downplayed the ban again during a two-hour roundtable discussion on Friday.

This, we remind you, is all within 24 hours of the assault weapons ban being introduced by a Democratic senator. And Biden is already giving us reasons why it’s not that big a deal.

Biden is the point man on all of this. His words matter, and he’s quite aware of the current politics of his issue. The fact that he’s downplaying the assault weapons ban suggests that it’s not likely to happen and he doesn’t want the whole thing to be viewed as a failure if the ban isn’t passed.

At the time, NBC read the writing on the wall, too:

Getting an outright ban through a divided Congress in the face of opposition from the National Rifle Association and other groups is unlikely, and the fight is likely to focus on other measures, like the background checks and limits on magazine size.

Biden’s comments came hours after Senate Democrats, led by California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, displayed various assault weapons at a Capitol Hill press conference. Feinstein introduced legislation Thursday to ban 158 specific types of those guns.

As for the math, that’s pretty easy to do. Bloomberg reported late last week that even if the bill came to a floor vote, Democrats won’t get a majority despite having 55 seats in the upper chamber:

At least six of the 55 senators in the Democratic caucus have expressed skepticism or outright opposition to a ban, the review found. That means Democrats wouldn’t have a 51-vote majority to pass the measure, let alone the 60 needed to break a Republican filibuster to bring it to a floor vote. …

The five Democratic senators from traditionally pro-gun states who have expressed skepticism about the bill are Max Baucus and Jon Tester of Montana, Mark Begich of Alaska, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota and Joe Manchin of West Virginia. Independent Senator Angus King of Maine, who caucuses with Democrats, also said he opposes a ban.

Maine Senator Susan Collins, a Republican who supported similar legislation in 2004, has indicated she is unlikely to back the proposed ban in its current form.

Left off of Bloomberg’s list are another three Democrats who may find it difficult to cast votes for a ban: New Hampshire’s Jean Shaheen, whose state has a significant gun-manufacturing industry; North Carolina’s Kay Hagan, whose state has turned more Republican of late; and Arkansas’ Mark Pryor, whose constituents would not likely reward him for banning guns, either.  And if Collins won’t vote for it, Feinstein won’t find any other Republicans to fill the gaps, either.

Feinstein said Saturday that Harry Reid, who is also not likely to vote for the bill, promised her a floor vote, but it may just be as an amendment:

Senator Dianne Feinstein said Majority Leader Harry Reid has promised that even if the assault weapons ban is left out of a broader package intended to curb gun violence, she will have the opportunity to offer it as an amendment on the Senate floor.

Thanks to the new filibuster rules, though, both sides are only guaranteed two amendments on any bill.  I’m not sure that Reid will want to waste a slot on an amendment that will not only go nowhere but might end up endangering some of his red-state colleagues who face voters in 2014.  And also thanks to the new filibuster rules, Republicans can block Feinstein’s bill from a floor vote no matter what Harry Reid wants.

The assault-weapons ban is most certainly DOA.  Some of the components, like expanded background checks and magazine limits, may still pass, but Feinstein’s core proposal has zero chance of proceeding, especially after last week’s compromise on the filibuster.

Addendum: Regarding the front-page picture, did no one ever tell Feinstein to keep her finger off the trigger of a firearm unless ready to shoot?  Shouldn’t a politician attempting to lecture us on gun safety know something about it herself?


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I have faith. Gomez can do it! Gomez is the better candidate, by far. Hopefully there are enough intelligent people in that state.

bluegill on May 9, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Take a good look at the pic of Markey.

This is the pic of a Political Sh*tbag.

ToddPA on May 9, 2013 at 9:25 AM

There’s a 4th poll out today also and has Markey up by 6…

http://www.wbur.org/2013/05/09/markey-gomez-senate-poll

This aligns with PPP and Emerson.

It’s hard to say who’s right given this is a special.

dforston on May 9, 2013 at 9:27 AM

I’m gonna call it now. Markey by 11. Bookmark it and come back in six weeks.

Chris of Rights on May 9, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Brown had the Tea Party rallying behind him. Tea Party was new and looking to prove itself and saw that race as a big opportunity. Gomez isn’t going to have that kind of push behind him.

Mark1971 on May 9, 2013 at 9:29 AM

I have faith. Gomez can do it! Gomez is the better candidate, by far. Hopefully there are enough intelligent people in that state.

bluegill on May 9, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Gomez is the worst RINO this year, however, this is the same state that elects Barney Frank, crook John Tierney and American Indian Elizabeth Warren, so this state is far from intelligent.

sentinelrules on May 9, 2013 at 9:29 AM

I have faith. Gomez can do it! Gomez is the better candidate, by far. Hopefully there are enough intelligent people in that state.

bluegill on May 9, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Barney Frank
Fauxcahontas
John Kerry
Ted Kennedy

Ehhh not so much

dirtseller on May 9, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Markey makes me puke

bsinc1962 on May 9, 2013 at 9:33 AM

There’s the right way to do something and there’s the Mass way to do things; trust the people of that blue state crap-station to elect yet another in a long line of pandering liberal jackasses.

Bishop on May 9, 2013 at 9:35 AM

OT:

ISLAMABAD — Pakistan’s prime minister has decided to ban the use of air conditioners by government offices to help cope with the country’s pervasive energy shortages.

A statement issued Wednesday from Prime Minister Mir Hazar Khan Khoso’s office says the ban will go into effect on May 15 and will continue until the energy situation improves.

Pakistan faces serious shortages of electricity and natural gas.
The ban could make for a very uncomfortable summer since temperatures in Pakistan often reach 104 degrees Fahrenheit.

The prime minister also issued a summer dress code recommending light-colored, loose-fitting clothing to help combat the heat.

(Except for the women….keep those sexy toes covered)

Hee hee.

BobMbx on May 9, 2013 at 9:36 AM

There’s the right way to do something and there’s the Mass way to do things; trust the people of that blue state crap-station to elect yet another in a long line of pandering liberal jackasses.

Bishop on May 9, 2013 at 9:35 AM

“There’s the right way, the wrong way, and the Mass way.”

“Isn’t the Mass way just the wrong way?”

“Yeah, but it costs more and has a smug sense of elitism.”

makattak on May 9, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Given the ideological demographic here, this is sort of a flip from SC-1, in that Gomez has to turn out all his supporters to win a special — which is possible, due to the general apathy special elections have, absent any looming event in Congress that upsets the dynamic (like ObamaCare in 2010). But Markey just needs normal Massachusetts voting patterns even with a small turnout to win, just as Sanford simply needed anything close to normal district voting patterns to win on Tuesday. So a lead that tracks slightly above the polls showing a closer racer — in the 8-10 point area, but not a 17-point lead — would be reasonable.

jon1979 on May 9, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Barney Frank
Fauxcahontas
John Kerry
Ted Kennedy

Ehhh not so much

dirtseller on May 9, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Yeah but they elected Romney, so in Bluegill’s mind that makes them the smartest state in the union. :)

melle1228 on May 9, 2013 at 9:45 AM

I have faith. Gomez can do it! Gomez is the better candidate, by far. Hopefully there are enough intelligent people in that state.

bluegill on May 9, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Massachusetts?.. Intelligent?..
ROTFLMAO!

The_Brewer on May 9, 2013 at 9:52 AM

I have faith. Gomez can do it! Gomez is the better candidate, by far. Hopefully there are enough intelligent people in that state.

bluegill on May 9, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Harvard is there. There are many intelligent people with no wisdom.

thuja on May 9, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Get a haircut. And I thought Kerry was hard to look at.

earlgrey133 on May 9, 2013 at 9:58 AM

are there any debates scheduled?

commodore on May 9, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Not surprising, the state of Massachusetts, despite having been crucial in the birth of the Republic, has long since fallen to statism and proven itself stupid. Time and again. I have no e faith that the people of Massachusetts could do the right thing if it was the only choice they had and the answer was tattooed on their foreheads.

AZfederalist on May 9, 2013 at 10:03 AM

There’s a commercial running right now where Markey is essentially taking credit for all modern technology because he voted for the telecom split.

bsinc1962 on May 9, 2013 at 10:05 AM

If i were Gomez, I wouldn’t advertise or campaign. I’d shop for an intelligence enhancing agent to put in the water supply.

IlikedAUH2O on May 9, 2013 at 10:05 AM

We should just call him Senator Markey now.

Scott Brown had the Tea Party; blue collar appeal; a Boston accent; and wasn’t in the PE biz. The Democrats are already labeling Gomez as an evil Little Romney out to make a buck at the expense of the working and middle classes.

Punchenko on May 9, 2013 at 10:13 AM

A failed, corrupt people deserve nothing more than a Markey.

MNHawk on May 9, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Didn’t Gomez write a letter to Patrick in support of Obama?

ctmom on May 9, 2013 at 10:22 AM

85% vote the right way is better than 100% the wrong way. Is the a ever to be a bill that Markey will vote the same way that Cruz or Paul do. Gomez will vote with Cruz more times then not but even if the is a few bill that he will vote the same way as Senator Pocahontas, it is the best they can offer for a generation.

tjexcite on May 9, 2013 at 10:27 AM

A failed, corrupt people deserve nothing more than a Markey.

MNHawk on May 9, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Their gift to you as well.

roy_batty on May 9, 2013 at 10:29 AM

tjexcite on May 9, 2013 at 10:27 AM

YES!!! But don’t call it a win.

I used to preach this all the time until:

1) I hung out around here and dicovered that their are conservative solutions which make more sense than the conventional LSM preaches.

2) I realized that the theory engenders the breeding of Juan McLames and others for the media to pass off as conservatives since they have an R.

IlikedAUH2O on May 9, 2013 at 10:32 AM

We should just call him Senator Markey now.

Scott Brown had the Tea Party; blue collar appeal; a Boston accent; and wasn’t in the PE biz. The Democrats are already labeling Gomez as an evil Little Romney out to make a buck at the expense of the working and middle classes.

Punchenko on May 9, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Likely so but I am sending Gomez some $$$ anyway. A good chunk of Dems (Lynch voters) will go for Gomez as will most independents. Independents outnumber Dems & Repubs combined in MA.

roy_batty on May 9, 2013 at 10:33 AM

I ran to the polls to vote for Scotty. I sure do miss him.

I won’t vote Markey, but there’s something about this guy that tells me he just isn’t up to the job. I’ll be counted as one of the countless that stayed at home.

c.j.ammenheuser on May 9, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Likely so but I am sending Gomez some $$$ anyway. A good chunk of Dems (Lynch voters) will go for Gomez as will most independents. Independents outnumber Dems & Repubs combined in MA.

roy_batty on May 9, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Granted, it’s been awhile since I’ve seen MA numbers, but when I had last looked (which at this point is about 7 years ago), I remember the numbers being Ind: 45, Dem: 44, Rep: 11.

Stoic Patriot on May 9, 2013 at 10:39 AM

Didn’t Gomez write a letter to Patrick in support of Obama?

ctmom on May 9, 2013 at 10:22 AM

Bingo! And he donated to both Governor Deval Patrick and Obama while praising Deval’s ‘Bold and insightful leadership…’

He’s also for stricter gun control and supports the immigration reform bill.

What’s that make him? A Rhino Squish of the First Order anywhere else, but here in The Commonwealth? A staunch conservative.

CaptFlood on May 9, 2013 at 10:54 AM

I think the Commonwealth of Mass should resurrect
the Black Oldsmobile that sustained “flood damage”
quite a few years ago, and run that.

The perfect symbol for the Blithering Idiots who vote
in that state.

ToddPA on May 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Glad to see the Bald Avenger has returned to his true calling-analytics!

President Romney will finally get the Senate he deserves!

tommyhawk on May 9, 2013 at 11:36 AM

It would be racist to vote against Gomez. That’s the lesson I’ve learned from my betters in the Demedia.

juliesa on May 9, 2013 at 11:37 AM

that race is over, mass will go for the leftist guy for sure. if they’ll take a liar like warren over an honest, but squishy rino like brown, their fate is sealed.

I honestly don’t know how boston gets a reputation for being “strong” and tough, when all they do there is cry for their government handouts. such a helpless group of people that can’t live without assistance. they consistently vote for dishonest, immoral, self-serving politicians, clearly they’re voting for people like themselves…

{is what I think of mass clear?}

jetch on May 9, 2013 at 11:53 AM

{is what I think of mass clear?}

jetch on May 9, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Must be easy being a conservative in a deep Red state. Try walking that walk here in MA. Watch every candidate you ever voted for (with rare exception) get out-voted into oblivion. Watch your governor lie his ass off, pander to criminals, layabouts and illegal aliens, then ask YOU (who for all intents and purposes have no effective representation) to pay more taxes. Try rocking an NRA sticker on your windshield knowing that by doing so you’ve just increased the likelihood of having your ride keyed by tenfold, and that you risk having your children ostracised by their friends simply for speaking your mind at town hall.

A little respect for those of us still fighting behind enemy lines…

CaptFlood on May 9, 2013 at 1:02 PM

OK, looking at the race from deep in “flyover country” [aka "America"]; Gomez is politically opposite of every SEAL and SpecOps person I have ever met. And yes, I have met a few. From his announced statements, he would fit in well with the Leftist Democrats in the Peoples’ Republic of Boulder, Colorado.

That said, this is Massachusetts. It is an area where the electoral system has been under Democrat control for generations. Brown was an anomaly, as noted, because the Left underestimated the concept of the TEA Party. I promise that those who control the final vote totals, regardless of votes cast, will not make that mistake again.

And, one has to remember the cultural mismatch. Just as his stands conflict with his status as a SEAL here, with being SEAL a source of credibility overwhelmed by knowledge of what he believes; in Massachusetts his Leftist stands give him credibility, countered by his status as a SEAL. Being part of the evil military-industrial complex, by definition to an extent an individualist, and a willingness to do violence against all the politically correct causes just because they threaten this country is an electoral killer in a collectivist haven like Massachusetts.

Markey in a walk.

Massachusetts will get the government it deserves. They will demand it. And will blame everyone but themselves for the results when they get it.

Certain areas are lost causes. New York City, Massachusetts, Chicago, Detroit, Washington, DC, California, the Pacific Northwest. They want Big Brother’s boot in their face so long as they are told that it is “for the children”. In fact they demand it.

Subotai Bahadur on May 9, 2013 at 1:57 PM