There was no jeering, disruption or chanting of the kind that characterizes demonstrations like those of Code Pink or Occupation Wall Street and the rest of the supposedly “civil” disobedience practiced by the left. This accusation is just part of their typical pattern of charging their opponents with engaging in their own obnoxious tactics.

While we all feel Mr. Heslin’s heartache and loss, it doesn’t right the wrong to take away the rights of the vast majority. One should only ban substances, practices and objects that are nearly always harmful to the individual or society in general. That can’t be said of guns or large clips. There is nothing inherently immoral about owning the means of self-protection. It’s the behavior, not the tools that needs to be dealt with.

Piers’ statement that “A child’s right not to be murdered by a gun supersedes ANY other right,” is absurd on its face, especially when one asks about the right of an unborn child’s right to live. It’s only appeal is emotional, the sophistry of waving the bloody shirt.
This is typical of the MSM and the main reason I ignore CNN and MSNBC and many of Fox’s evening programs.

Those who demand new prohibitions and bans every time a tragedy occurs usually assume that passing a law will solve the problem, and never seem to realize the harm it does to pass laws that will not be observed and which they aren’t willing to expend resources on enforcing. All that does is put the law in disrepute and lead to resentment and disobedience.

Tell me, again, who was it that heckled George W Bush at Obama’s INAUGURATION?

“Na, Na, Hey, Hey, Kiss Him Goodbye!”

WTF heckles anyone at a solemn occasion like THAT except for classless ‘tards?

Nope, no hypocrisy there. Move along.

And yes he twice looked over his shoulder and asked the audience for an answer, they should have stayed silent, but the few responses were in NO WAY heckling.

How many children are murdered every year by their parents/guardians?
About 1k³ more than by anonymous, raging, random actors.
F’ing idiots.
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on January 30, 2013 at 12:36 PM

The obvious answer is all children must be confiscated from their parents and raised by the government…..
Because, well, if one child’s life is saved, and all….

What I would like is the doctor … and the Police … to get together and resolve these apparent contradictions.

listens2glenn on January 30, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Read that statement that tommer74 links to. The police statement agrees with the doctor.

The conflicting/contradictory reports have yet to be resolved, unless one of you heard something I missed.

listens2glenn on January 29, 2013 at 7:17 PM

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What are you saying isn’t resolved…what weapon was used for the massacre?

verbaluce on January 30, 2013 at 9:03 AM

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Wrong.

I watched the live coverage of the aftermath, and the POLICE SPOKESMAN, in a press briefing after they had secured the crime scene, asserted that the rifle was found in the TRUNK of Lanza’s car, and the pistols were all that was found in the school.

The story has been changed to fit the agenda. You drank the MSM Kool-aid.

Shepherd Lover on January 30, 2013 at 8:28 AM

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Is this an actual conspiracy theory that’s out there…
or is Shepherd Lover a lone nut of a different kind?

verbaluce on January 30, 2013 at 9:09 AM

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Yes, it is an actual “conspiracy theory” that the AR-15 never made it into the school, and that the massacre (and subsequent suicide) was carried out with four handguns.

Currently, I’m not siding one way or the other.

What I would like is the doctor on the scene (who stated clearly that all of the bullet wounds were .223 caliber) and the Police (who stated clearly that only four handguns were found inside the school) to get together and resolve these apparent contradictions.

I don’t fault Mr. Heslin’s despair at losing his son, but he doesn’t seem to understand what the 2nd ammendment is really about.

Shepherd Lover on January 30, 2013 at 8:28 AM
verbaluce on January 30, 2013 at 9:03 AM

Read this

http://www.ct.gov/despp/cwp/view.asp?Q=517284

in reply to what was largely a rhetorical question.

verbaluce on January 30, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Everyone thought it was a rhetorical question. That’s why there was silence initially. Then he used the fact that no one answered as part of his argument and he suddenly got some answers. So, no, it wasn’t a rhetorical question.

Wrong.

I watched the live coverage of the aftermath, and the POLICE SPOKESMAN, in a press briefing after they had secured the crime scene, asserted that the rifle was found in the TRUNK of Lanza’s car, and the pistols were all that was found in the school.

The story has been changed to fit the agenda. You drank the MSM Kool-aid.

Shepherd Lover on January 30, 2013 at 8:28 AM

Is this an actual conspiracy theory that’s out there…
or is Shepherd Lover a lone nut of a different kind?

Honestly, I don’t know what to believe. Was the first report true, but changed to fit what someone wanted the story to be, or was the first report crap and the next iteration was true, or… ?

Midas on January 29, 2013 at 6:00 PM

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The conflicting/contradictory reports have yet to be resolved, unless one of you heard something I missed.

listens2glenn on January 29, 2013 at 7:17 PM

What are you saying isn’t resolved…what weapon was used for the massacre?

And I think – despite many of the knee jerk admonishments here – Mr. Heslin swayed a lot more folks to his view than the ‘shouters’ did to theirs.

Yeah, he did use the rifle. Early news reports were wrong on that like they were about many things.

Mark1971 on January 29, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Wrong.

I watched the live coverage of the aftermath, and the POLICE SPOKESMAN, in a press briefing after they had secured the crime scene, asserted that the rifle was found in the TRUNK of Lanza’s car, and the pistols were all that was found in the school.

The story has been changed to fit the agenda. You drank the MSM Kool-aid.

However, many feelings emotionally expressed are just that. They are the product of unmitigated candor not necessarily grounded in realistic conclusions.

The fact of the matter in this case is that almost none of the measures being advocated by these parents would have saved their children. None. That’s hard to state, but it is honest and sincere.

You can never eliminate evil from this world. Therefore believing you can do so by trying to ban guns, nuance the purchase of ammunition or intruding on the rights of a substantial number of citizens who happen to be legal, responsible gun owners is not the answer. What purpose will that serve? To what end is that directed? The fact is it is a utopian view not achievable on this earth. It also does not comport with facts and wisdom. It is, as I stated, emotional and therefore not fully rationalized in a realistic sense.

The facts are the Sandy Hook murderer was coddled by an ineffective system that for years allowed his mental illness to largely go untreated due to the societal “stigma” proper treatment people purport would follow. In a contemporary society elevating political correctness above realistic, practical and diagnostically correct assessments- it is the perfect storm waiting to happen. Not reaching that assessment is both intellectually dishonest and unrealistic.

As for the guns he used, they were stolen due to the fact that when he went to make a purchase on his own he was rightly denied. Somebody please explain to me how trying to ban assault weapons (and some handguns), limiting magazine sizes, registering legal gun owners and almost all measures focused on guns that are being proposed would have changed that?

The simple, unvarnished truth is they would not.

Piers Morgan is British fecal matter.

ultracon on January 29, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Justly invokes that classic Monty Python joke:

What’s brown and sounds like a bell?

DUNG!