Perry: Texas should be able to return unspent revenue to citizens

posted at 3:51 pm on January 29, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

On the (all-too-rare, harumph) occasion that a particular state ends up with a budget surplus, that state might use the leftover money to pay down debt, add cushion to a rainy day fund, put down payments on infrastructure projects, and etcetera. Several GOP governors are currently looking into their respective states’ tax codes and revenue streams in an effort to encourage competition and economic growth, but Texas Gov. Rick Perry is adding to that competitive drive with yet another economy-boosting idea. Showing off his sense of fiscal discipline and an understanding that the private sector spends money more productively than the public sector, he plans to propose a constitutional amendment that would allow the state to return unspent revenue back to taxpayers. Via Fox News:

Gov. Rick Perry will use his State of the State address to call for amending the Texas Constitution to allow the state to return tax money it collects but doesn’t spend back to its citizens, according to an excerpt of the speech released to The Associated Press.

Perry, who is scheduled to deliver the speech Tuesday morning to a joint session of the Legislature, will tell lawmakers that he has “never bought into the notion that if you collect more, you need to spend more.”

“Today, I’m calling for a mechanism to be put in place so when we do bring in more than we need, we’ll have the option of returning tax money directly to the people who paid it,” the governor plans to say. “Currently, that’s not something our constitution allows. We need to fix that.”

The Texas economy is enjoying some great economic growth relative to many other states, thanks largely to their business-friendly policies and the ongoing energy production boom, but instead of using extra revenue as an excuse to grow the government bureaucracy and take on more projects, Perry is trying to institutionalize fiscal restraint and budgetary discipline — and it feels so good. Constitutional amendments in Texas require a two-thirds majority approval in both the state House and Senate, and there are enough sitting Democrats in the legislature that the proposal probably won’t pass, but Perry definitely has the right idea: The private sector spends money more productively and efficiently than the public sector. That is all.

That’s quite the contrast from the Obama administration’s constant mantra that still more government spending is always the best and inevitable answer. God bless federalism.


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Don’t know how you return sales tax revenue to people, though. If it were an income tax, the distribution scheme is pretty simple.

Is he having back trouble again? Back on the pills? Just pay off debt, dude. We need to be ready for Secession Day.

CycloneCDB on January 29, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Perry: Texas should be able to return unspent revenue to citizens

“HAHAHAHAHA! Rick Perry comes out as a Socialist! Like my Bammy, he believes in the redistribution of wealth!”

/typical braindead Prog

Resist We Much on January 29, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Pay down the debt. Ther’s no “fair” way to distribute the surplus when it is mostly sales tax revenue. If it were income tax, it’s straight-forward. But not sales tax.

He’s back on the pills for his ailing back again.

CycloneCDB on January 29, 2013 at 3:57 PM

I just wish Perry was our nominee in 2012… But those who were obsessed with debates made it impossible the last time… Romney won a huge victory in his first debate against Obama but he still lost… Let us hope that Perry runs in 2016 and let us not be obsessed with the stupid debates… Debates do not make good or bad Presidents…

mnjg on January 29, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Keep it. While it would be a good gesture to give it all back, hedge your bets on the collapse of the country.

nobar on January 29, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Never Forget:

Had the people of Texas not stood up in total rebellion aginst Perry’s land/power grab via the Trans Texas Toll Roads all that tax and spend boon doggle would be on the books for all time.

Not only a power/tax money/power grab, he had plans to sell Texas Toll Roads to a Spanish Constrution company.

Perry is not what you other people out side Texas think.

The Gov.’s office in Texas is a weak office, what he has done is stay in office to long and all that time he has appointed his cronies to important places where money gets spent.

He gets elected by pretending to be what he is not.

We are just about done with him.

It is the conservative we Texans elected to the House and Senate Republicans who saved Texas.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 29, 2013 at 4:00 PM

CycloneCDB on January 29, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Bless your heart.

cozmo on January 29, 2013 at 4:02 PM

I’m not sure I’m comfortable with these politicians offering to give money back to the citizens, the money belongs to the government and they should keep it out of the hands of the people who aren’t smart enough to spend it wisely.

Bishop on January 29, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Lee Dreyfus was the governor of Wisconsin years ago and he actually did refund excess money to the citizenry. The political class hated him for it and insured that he was voted out.

Special Forces Grunt on January 29, 2013 at 4:04 PM

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 29, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Your weak office argument nullifies your power grab argument.

But keep tryin’.

cozmo on January 29, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Thank you Perry for wanting to do this. We are so happy we live in TX and if the good Lord’s willing we will continue to be a great state. We have to deal with bho/epa/all those libs wanting to move here and that might hurt us? But with Perry and Abbott, we are doing very nice, thank you very much!
L

letget on January 29, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Oregon has a kicker law, and it is popular. I take pleasure in the continuing, constant pain it causes to the Dem governor and legislators here.

Marcola on January 29, 2013 at 4:06 PM

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 29, 2013 at 4:00 PM

what kinda power mad governor tries to build a highway??? the nerve!!
/

chasdal on January 29, 2013 at 4:07 PM

This sounds like a bad idea. If there’s excess revenue, lower the tax rates accordingly. Or pay down the debt. Calculating fair rebates would be a nightmare, even if the State could match sales tax paid with an individual SSN.

steebo77 on January 29, 2013 at 4:07 PM

I like Rick Perry but this is a terribly half baked idea. Texas has no income tax to my knowledge and there’s simply no impartial way to reallocate extra funds to taxpayers if the bulk of taxes come from sales tax.

Also, you can’t champion having a Rainy Day fund in 2012 and then say you want to give it back to the taxpayers in 2013. Then you’re left with no rainy day fund and nothing to fall back on should the Texan economy suffer.

Texas has a pretty solid tax structure. If Perry wants to do any good, find any extraneous loopholes and shut those down and/or lower current sales tax rates.

Hostile Gospel on January 29, 2013 at 4:07 PM

I’m not sure I’m comfortable with these politicians offering to give money back to the citizens, the money belongs to the government and they should keep it out of the hands of the people who aren’t smart enough to spend it wisely.

Bishop on January 29, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Agree – and there’s no good end to the “let’s give it back” story. Someone gets short-changed and they’ll rake him over the coals for it.

CycloneCDB on January 29, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Bless your heart.

cozmo on January 29, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Something you want to say?

CycloneCDB on January 29, 2013 at 4:09 PM

State Bar-B-Que!!

CurtZHP on January 29, 2013 at 4:10 PM

I don’t know how they’d pay it back, but it’s a great idea. What this does is create a large incentive among the general public to reduce spending because they’ll get money back. This would institutionalize a mindset that would always seek out for government to not only live within its means but to actually come in under budget. Again, I have no idea how they’d return the money, but you cant argue with the results.

Weight of Glory on January 29, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Ther problem with “refunding the money to the citizens” is deciding which citizens get how much. Does each adult Texan get a fixed amount? In that case, people who didn’t pay taxes might get a free handout. Is it in proportion to taxes paid? In a state with no state income tax, how is that calculated?

The best thing to do with state budget surpluses is to use them to pay off earlier debt (state bonds), thereby saving future interest payments, and cut taxes so that next year’s tax revenue would equal spending.

Steve Z on January 29, 2013 at 4:13 PM

CycloneCDB on January 29, 2013 at 4:08 PM

satire

chasdal on January 29, 2013 at 4:13 PM

It is the conservative we Texans elected to the House and Senate Republicans who saved Texas.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 29, 2013 at 4:00 PM

we need more of them. Tommy Williams (Squish-Woodlands) barely survived as a senator after working hard to protect Jeff Wentworth (Looking for Work – San Antonio) by killing the sactuary city bill and the house used democrats to again get Joe Straus elected as speaker.

Perry is an opportunist and the presidential run appears to have opened his eyes. He is being out conservatived by many GOP governors these days. He’s competing and I like him now more that the last time I voted for him.

DanMan on January 29, 2013 at 4:17 PM

So that translates to like $2 per person or what? Most likely the bureaucrats will get ahold of it and return it to the public in the form of “public utilities” or “parks and wildlife”. The government only takes, it never gives back.

dip it in cider on January 29, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Perry’s a nutcase. Texas has infrastructure needs that have been put off for too long.

We need.

Alligators in the Rio Grande (and Great White Sharks)
A political re-education camp for all the Left Coast and New England invaders.
The sale of Austin to someone, maybe the North Koreans.
And Something Has To Be Done about the Dallas Cowboys.

CorporatePiggy on January 29, 2013 at 4:17 PM

chasdal on January 29, 2013 at 4:13 PM

I misread. I thought he was saying we should be smart enough to keep it out of the govt hands in the first place. Hastily read. My bad.

CycloneCDB on January 29, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Something you want to say?

CycloneCDB on January 29, 2013 at 4:09 PM

this may be a case of curiousity killing the cat…

DanMan on January 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM

I just wish Perry was our nominee in 2012… But those who were obsessed with debates made it impossible the last time… Romney won a huge victory in his first debate against Obama but he still lost… Let us hope that Perry runs in 2016 and let us not be obsessed with the stupid debates… Debates do not make good or bad Presidents…

mnjg on January 29, 2013 at 3:57 PM

The debates do matter. Had Perry won the nomination then gone on to blow the first debate with Obama in the same way he blew the first primary debate, Obama would have won every state in the country by double digits and the Dems would’ve cleaned up in the House and Senate. But at least we’d have our prefered candidate.

Zetterson on January 29, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Didn’t Mitch Daniels just send out $118 checks to heads of households in Indiana to reduce their surplus?

DanMan on January 29, 2013 at 4:21 PM

CorporatePiggy on January 29, 2013 at 4:17 PM

with laser beams attached to their foreheads????

phreshone on January 29, 2013 at 4:21 PM

there’s a very easy way to “give the money back”– have several more Tax Free Weekends, those are always a huge boost to retail

Personally, I wish there was a way to get a refund on my outrageous property taxes, but the Peoples Republic of Austin is apparently in the red once again, pissing away money on bike paths and green crap despite being flush in revenue…

thurman on January 29, 2013 at 4:22 PM

I’m not sure I’m comfortable with these politicians offering to give money back to the citizens, the money belongs to the government and they should keep it out of the hands of the people who aren’t smart enough to spend it wisely.

Bishop on January 29, 2013 at 4:03 PM

We agree!

/chumpThreads, sesqui, verb, libenslavedanddie

:-)

Resist We Much on January 29, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Perry’s a nutcase. Texas has infrastructure needs that have been put off for too long.

We need.

Alligators in the Rio Grande (and Great White Sharks)
A political re-education camp for all the Left Coast and New England invaders.
The sale of Austin to someone, maybe the North Koreans.
And Something Has To Be Done about the Dallas Cowboys.

CorporatePiggy on January 29, 2013 at 4:17 PM

that’s funny right thar!

search4truth on January 29, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Zetterson on January 29, 2013 at 4:21 PM

romney b*tch-slapped 0bama in the first debate and still got spanked. the problem w/ the primary debates were that the MFM used them to pick the GOP candidate. they held romney’s hand and led a dogpile on whichever candidate was surging at the moment.

chasdal on January 29, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Next up:
Flags for Orphans!

strictnein on January 29, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Speaking of Texas…I just-like 5 minutes ago-walking in the door from my Chicago trip.
Chicago is a hell-hole. taxes is NOT a hell-hole.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 29, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Oh, come on. Just bank it and reduce the taxes next year. The paperwork to figure out how much to give back to whom and to cut the checks and mail them will cost millions. I expected better from you, Perry.

Socratease on January 29, 2013 at 4:27 PM

there’s a very easy way to “give the money back”– have several more Tax Free Weekends, those are always a huge boost to retail

Personally, I wish there was a way to get a refund on my outrageous property taxes, but the Peoples Republic of Austin is apparently in the red once again, pissing away money on bike paths and green crap despite being flush in revenue…

thurman on January 29, 2013 at 4:22 PM

the tax free weekends arent any real boon. people dont spend anymore than they would, they just wait to spend that money. farmers branch used to property tax rebates in years they had a surplus. with their current legal bills im betting that hasnt happened in awhile.

chasdal on January 29, 2013 at 4:27 PM

10 years ago I would have agreed.

Now? If a state runs a surplus, they should hoard every penny, or better yet dump it into precious metals. Texas may be Texas, but they still have to pay a full share of everything the CHI gang implements. The lack of stupidity on top of that will be small solace in the near future.

HitNRun on January 29, 2013 at 4:30 PM

You gotta admit….this would finally give the low information voters reason to push for less spending…

ChrisL on January 29, 2013 at 4:31 PM

taxes is NOT a hell-hole.

Did you mean TX not ‘taxes’?
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letget on January 29, 2013 at 4:32 PM

The debates do matter. Had Perry won the nomination then gone on to blow the first debate with Obama in the same way he blew the first primary debate, Obama would have won every state in the country by double digits and the Dems would’ve cleaned up in the House and Senate. But at least we’d have our prefered candidate.

Zetterson on January 29, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Obama blew his first debate very badly by everyone admission including the liberal media and his supporters but he still manage to win… Perry had a back condition during the primary debates which effected his performance but it would not be there during the presidential debate almost a year later… Anway, it is a losing battle convincing many on our side not to put much importance on the debates specially when you have 10 people on the stage throwing buzz lines and zingers… It tells you nothing about the character of a someone running for President and whether they are fit for office… So next time there is a presidential debate make the pocorn and get the chips ready, beer and etc… wear a shirt with your favorite candidate picture on it… and cheer everytime he or she throws a zinger…

mnjg on January 29, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Whichever course he would take – this maxim is generally true:

Money will be better managed by citizens than the government.

22044 on January 29, 2013 at 4:34 PM

letget on January 29, 2013 at 4:32 PM
Yes. I’ve been up since 0300 yesterday, so I’m acting a bit squirrely…er.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 29, 2013 at 4:35 PM

We agree!

/chumpThreads, sesqui, verb, libenslavedanddie

:-)

Resist We Much on January 29, 2013 at 4:22 PM

lol, I had this in mind when I offered my “straight man” comment. :)

22044 on January 29, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Debates do not make good or bad Presidents…

mnjg

No one said it did. Having a melt down like the one Perry had can keep someone from becoming president however.

xblade on January 29, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Splitting the return evenly per capita is socialism, and any unevenness will end up feeding litigation lawyers for years. So pay the debt, Gov. Perry. It is always a wise thing to do, unless you believe that SHTF is near, and nobody really wins by betting on SHTF.

Archivarix on January 29, 2013 at 4:39 PM

:)

That is all

gophergirl on January 29, 2013 at 4:39 PM

I just-like 5 minutes ago-walking in the door from my Chicago trip.
Chicago is a hell-hole. taxes is NOT a hell-hole.

Prosecutor: Something must be done! War would mean a prohibitive increase in our taxes.
Chicolini: Hey, I got an uncle lives in Taxes.
Prosecutor: No, I’m talking about taxes – money, dollars!
Chicolini: Dollars! There’s-a where my uncle lives! Dollars, Taxes!

hawkeye54 on January 29, 2013 at 4:40 PM

You gotta admit….this would finally give the low information voters reason to push for less spending…

ChrisL on January 29, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Yes. It’s important not to forget why the voters of Alaska wrote-in for Lisa Murkowski, they had a massive incentive to be focused on elections. They get a check from the State government every year. And to maximize the State’s budget surplus, they voted to keep a powerful senator who could keep Federal dollars coming in, and they squeeze state spending all they can.

phreshone on January 29, 2013 at 4:41 PM

hawkeye54 on January 29, 2013 at 4:40 PM

I kept hoping that I’d see Perry @ DFW.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 29, 2013 at 4:42 PM

and there are enough sitting Democrats in the legislature that the proposal probably won’t pass

Don’t pronounce it dead so fast. Any Dimmocrit who votes against the bill will have placed himself on the record as being anti-Tax Payer. And tax payers don’t like it when you’re anti … “them”.

Rick Perry – clever like a fox.

Too bad the GOP places too much of a premium on debate performances – these ideas of Perry’s … we could be discussing them on a NATIONAL level right now.

HondaV65 on January 29, 2013 at 4:46 PM

with laser beams attached to their foreheads????

phreshone on January 29, 2013 at 4:21 PM

“Assault Weapons”.

With laser beams.

CorporatePiggy on January 29, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Did you mean TX not ‘taxes’?
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letget on January 29, 2013 at 4:32 PM

A little taste of yankeeland and she relapses…

cozmo on January 29, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Yeah, but this guy was too “dumb” to be President. Making government accountable to its citizens is so STOOPID.

Got it.

Opposite Day on January 29, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Rick Perry – clever like a fox.

HondaV65 on January 29, 2013 at 4:46 PM

You are one of the few who caught on.

The fights over this will be fun. The libs will fight to give the sponges a bigger share claiming sales tax relief. Taxpayers will want it distributed back like property tax. There is no fair, or even, way to return this money. But everybody will want some. That they all want it, will argue for lower taxes.

Yep, the fights will be entertaining. And this will keep Perry in the news.

And when his college tuition plan starts up…

cozmo on January 29, 2013 at 4:56 PM

hawkeye54 January 29, 2013 at 4:40 PM

my fave.

socalcon on January 29, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Here’s a better idea, have all federal revenue go through state revenue offices for remittance to the Feds. The states will deduct any monies they would expect back with strings attached and send in the rest. This will prevent the Feds from using the taxes of a state’s residents to bribe or bully states with that state’s residents’ money.

The 55 MPH speed limit is a good example of the Feds withholding money for not complying with their mandates.

Charlemagne on January 29, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Well, he could rescind that “margin” tax he saddled business owners with…or he could just give a tax holiday for all shoppers for 3 months. That would also stimulate sales and help businesses.

travlinman on January 29, 2013 at 5:40 PM

lol, I had this in mind when I offered my “straight man” comment. :)

22044 on January 29, 2013 at 4:35 PM

You wanna laugh?

chumpThreads: Trig Truther

I’m STILL laughing.

Resist We Much on January 29, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Personally, I wish there was a way to get a refund on my outrageous property taxes, but the Peoples Republic of Austin is apparently in the red once again, pissing away money on bike paths and green crap despite being flush in revenue…

thurman on January 29, 2013 at 4:22 PM

I agree. I warn people about this before they move to Texas. These school districts and local governments are in need of major reform. The non-classroom positions at AISD are ridiculous.

God forbid they build more roads. Austin’s approach to alleviating traffic congestion is bike paths and bus routes.

Hat Trick on January 29, 2013 at 5:59 PM

travlinman on January 29, 2013 at 5:40 PM

That’s already being discussed. Raise the bar to $1 million before it kicks in. I think its $350,000 now. Or maybe they raised to $1 million last session and will raise it to $2 million. Dan Patrick mentioned it from Austin on his radio station.

DanMan on January 29, 2013 at 6:00 PM

Hey, Rick, buy ammo. The feds are.

Don L on January 29, 2013 at 6:00 PM

He could start by putting the millions back into the Texas public school system that has been slashed the last couple of years. Class sizes have increased, budgets cut, early retirement incentives offered, support staff fired and property taxes increased in order for districts to balance their budgets. Keep in mind that Texas does not have the insane teacher unions that other states have that inflate wages and benefits for educators.

Spider79 on January 29, 2013 at 6:00 PM

We ALREADY have a big Rainy Day fund in Texas, so we don’t need that. Infrastructure, we could use. But more important uses wiould be 1) roll back the business franchise tax, and 2) soften the blow of the current ‘Robin Hood’ plan that takes money from rich school districts and sends them to poorer ones to use it as they see fit. I don’t know HOW many astroturfed football fields our school district has paid for other districts I have no vote in.

michaelo on January 29, 2013 at 6:01 PM

DanMan…great! Now I’m thinking like a politician! Anybody know a good exorcist!

travlinman on January 29, 2013 at 6:04 PM

I’m actually going with “clever like a fox”….

1st State Dems were super pissed that Perry even dared to challenge their God – Obama and have hatched grand plans to beat him to death with it in the next election.

2nd The Texas Comptroller announces that Texas reduced spending, the world didn’t end and now has a surplus and a larger budget for the next session – Score one for Perry

3rd State Dems announce that even though there is a surplus and higher revenues – It’s not going to be enough to pay for all their new spending proposals – Take that Perry

4th Perry introduces plans to return money to taxpayers – which is a brilliant move on so many fronts. The people who pay taxes are happy, the people who get handouts think they’ll be happy. The State Dems have to figure out how to convince their constituents that this is going to be bad for them…. And do you really want to be the State Dem who’s trying to convince the rest of us that more spending is good. – Score one for Perry

So – What move is being left for State Dems that lets them look better than Perry? Seriously, I live in a Blue County. Our local Pols have been strategizing on how to force Perry into playing nice on Obamacare so they can get their hands on all those pretty Federal dollars – let someone else figure out how to pay for the strings that are attached.

Bonus Round – On top of that it attracts National attention. Add to it, what I suspect will be a strong position on 2nd Amendment Rights with Abbot in the forefront of any Federal fights and suddenly all those primary voters with buyers remorse start thinking Perry looks pretty good.

2nd Ammendment Mother on January 29, 2013 at 6:06 PM

2nd Ammendment Mother on January 29, 2013 at 6:06 PM

^^^^ This

gophergirl on January 29, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Sounds like buying votes.
The likely return would give the money mostly to the poor, since the poor are the largest number of people. So, say you give back a flat rate to the poor they get most of their money back, the rich get almost none of theirs back.
Incentive for the poor to demand higher taxes, get more excess revenue, get higher returns on giving the money back to the people.
Rinse and repeat a few times and before long they are getting back more than they put in, as long as the congress does not spend.

Does this sound like socialism to you? Law of Consequences. Pay attention to what the incentives you are creating are!

astonerii on January 29, 2013 at 6:15 PM

He could start by putting the millions back into the Texas public school system that has been slashed the last couple of years. Class sizes have increased, budgets cut, early retirement incentives offered, support staff fired and property taxes increased in order for districts to balance their budgets. Keep in mind that Texas does not have the insane teacher unions that other states have that inflate wages and benefits for educators.

Spider79 on January 29, 2013 at 6:00 PM

The problem with all of our schools for too many years has been too much money. Out here the feds have indicted and convicted Superintendents and school board members for various fraud and bribery charges related to district contracts.

Add in the copious non teaching staffs, insane upper administration salaries (compared to work done) and massive waste and fraud and there is a bigger need to cut more budgets.

Just one among many examples:

Last year a couple of parents complained to a Trustee about AP classes with 40 students. The Trustee innocently requested an audit of that campus regarding actual student/teacher class loads per period. When the dust settled, it was discovered that 14 teachers (at the top of the step ladder) were teaching 2 or fewer classes with less than 10 students. These were not special ed or similar teachers…. this was English, History, Science, etc. The scheme had been going on for almost 10 years to the tune of $1 million dollars in salaries and benefits per year. The audit was extended to the rest of the 40 campuses and by this year the district had cut the salary budget by nearly $18 million dollars.

2nd Ammendment Mother on January 29, 2013 at 6:15 PM

I have an idea. Use the surplus and buy up broke states like IL and make them TX property. That way I can have leader to be proud of instead of a pop-eyed pretender (Quinn). :)

Conservative Independent on January 29, 2013 at 6:16 PM

For those saying Perry should just hang onto the surplus, I think he has good reason to worry that Obama & co. will see “extra” money lying around and find a way to confiscate it for federal use or for redistribution to “less fortunate” states like broke California and Michigan who “need” it more than Texas does. Perhaps there’s an Executive Order for that.

aero on January 29, 2013 at 6:32 PM

Spider79 on January 29, 2013 at 6:00 PM

We do have an extravagantly expensive testing program in Texas, though.

http://www.kvue.com/news/The-Price-of-Pearson–186386381.html

aero on January 29, 2013 at 6:41 PM

I have an idea. Use the surplus and buy up broke states like IL and make them TX property. That way I can have leader to be proud of instead of a pop-eyed pretender (Quinn). :)

Conservative Independent on January 29, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Not entirely without merit. We buy California – and run their state from here. They can vote for their figurehead Governor and legislature – but the ACTUAL decisions come from Austin.

CycloneCDB on January 29, 2013 at 6:47 PM

I heard on our local Corpus Christi hour up-date someone, me thinks a d in Austin, wants a 5 cent tax on sugar drinks! For the kids is the spin for school lunches! That was the same krap we got when we voted for the lottery, for the kids, and guess what no kids got squat! Perry has a long row to hoe, dealing with the few d’s in Austin.
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letget on January 29, 2013 at 6:55 PM

2nd Ammendment Mother on January 29, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Wow. Glad they caught it, but how in the world did it go on for so long?

cptacek on January 29, 2013 at 7:08 PM

I got a better idea Rick Perry…
Cut the tax rate by a specified % until the budget balances. That way you are not giving out money earned by one person to another person. Use the money you have extra to make up for the lowered tax rate.

astonerii on January 29, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Folks are right about it not being easy to give back sales tax money. He should add it as a bonus to the state lottery. It’ll get distributed that way.

Odysseus on January 29, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Gov. Perry gave a good state of the state today.

Texas will keep it’s rainy day fund at a certain level.
Texas will invest some of the surplus in water & infrastructure.

Perry wants the legislature to amend the state constitution to make sure money is spent on the programs legislated and if not, returned to the tax payer instead shifting the money around. He wants a formula for budgets based on growth + inflation that is commonsense so that in the future there aren’t spending sprees.

He seems to be laying the groundwork to keep Texas fiscally conservative for the future.

workingclass artist on January 29, 2013 at 8:24 PM

I’m actually going with “clever like a fox”….

1st State Dems were super pissed that Perry even dared to challenge their God – Obama and have hatched grand plans to beat him to death with it in the next election.

2nd The Texas Comptroller announces that Texas reduced spending, the world didn’t end and now has a surplus and a larger budget for the next session – Score one for Perry

3rd State Dems announce that even though there is a surplus and higher revenues – It’s not going to be enough to pay for all their new spending proposals – Take that Perry

4th Perry introduces plans to return money to taxpayers – which is a brilliant move on so many fronts. The people who pay taxes are happy, the people who get handouts think they’ll be happy. The State Dems have to figure out how to convince their constituents that this is going to be bad for them…. And do you really want to be the State Dem who’s trying to convince the rest of us that more spending is good. – Score one for Perry

So – What move is being left for State Dems that lets them look better than Perry? Seriously, I live in a Blue County. Our local Pols have been strategizing on how to force Perry into playing nice on Obamacare so they can get their hands on all those pretty Federal dollars – let someone else figure out how to pay for the strings that are attached.

Bonus Round – On top of that it attracts National attention. Add to it, what I suspect will be a strong position on 2nd Amendment Rights with Abbot in the forefront of any Federal fights and suddenly all those primary voters with buyers remorse start thinking Perry looks pretty good.
2nd Ammendment Mother on January 29, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Yep!

Perry’s response to Democrats sayin’ they want to turn the state Blue was Bring It On!

Conservative Governance works…

workingclass artist on January 29, 2013 at 8:29 PM

Rick Perry – clever like a fox.

HondaV65 on January 29, 2013 at 4:46 PM

You are one of the few who caught on.

The fights over this will be fun. The libs will fight to give the sponges a bigger share claiming sales tax relief. Taxpayers will want it distributed back like property tax. There is no fair, or even, way to return this money. But everybody will want some. That they all want it, will argue for lower taxes.

Yep, the fights will be entertaining. And this will keep Perry in the news.

And when his college tuition plan starts up…

cozmo on January 29, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Cowboy Politics will be especially entertaining this session…

workingclass artist on January 29, 2013 at 8:31 PM

Perry’s a nutcase. Texas has infrastructure needs that have been put off for too long.

We need.

Alligators in the Rio Grande (and Great White Sharks)
A political re-education camp for all the Left Coast and New England invaders.
The sale of Austin to someone, maybe the North Koreans.
And Something Has To Be Done about the Dallas Cowboys.

CorporatePiggy on January 29, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Funny that..

I think the Dallas Cowboys are hopeless as long as Jones owns them.

workingclass artist on January 29, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Colorado has had that ability for years under Tabor. After a few years of refunds, the politicians have managed to finagle things so that we haven’t seen a refund since.

Common Sense on January 29, 2013 at 8:48 PM

We have a surplus and no income tax. Illinois has high income tax and they are bankrupt. Wonder what the difference is?

lonestar1 on January 29, 2013 at 9:07 PM

The thing is, they cut education to balance the budget. So, he can’t say there’s “more than we need”. Our schools are trying to figure out how to handle the cuts, from increasing class size to reducing programs to cutting back on janitorial services. We need to put the money back into our schools which was previously removed.

ramthulon on January 29, 2013 at 10:19 PM

2nd Ammendment Mother on January 29, 2013 at 6:15 PM would like a word with you

cptacek on January 29, 2013 at 10:22 PM

^that was to ramthulon

cptacek on January 29, 2013 at 10:22 PM

ramthulon on January 29, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Charge the parents of the students?

astonerii on January 29, 2013 at 10:39 PM

Quite honestly with the way he has been poking fun at Cuomo, I was hoping he would come to NY and buy Long Island.

monalisa on January 29, 2013 at 10:52 PM

The thing is, they cut education to balance the budget. So, he can’t say there’s “more than we need”. Our schools are trying to figure out how to handle the cuts, from increasing class size to reducing programs to cutting back on janitorial services. We need to put the money back into our schools which was previously removed.

ramthulon on January 29, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Go to his website and tell him…He’s asking Texans for suggestions.

workingclass artist on January 29, 2013 at 11:22 PM

LOL.

Everytime a Governor did anything to reduce taxes I would put it on my facebook. It would go something like this “In your face Rick Perry!”. Well if Rick Perry gets a way to return tax money he is in a whole new pantheon of limited government… Well played sir, well played.

Theworldisnotenough on January 29, 2013 at 11:34 PM

Sounds like buying votes.
The likely return would give the money mostly to the poor, since the poor are the largest number of people. So, say you give back a flat rate to the poor they get most of their money back, the rich get almost none of theirs back.
Incentive for the poor to demand higher taxes, get more excess revenue, get higher returns on giving the money back to the people.
Rinse and repeat a few times and before long they are getting back more than they put in, as long as the congress does not spend.

Does this sound like socialism to you? Law of Consequences. Pay attention to what the incentives you are creating are!

astonerii on January 29, 2013 at 6:15 PM

It’s not socialism to give money back to taxpayers. I don’t live in Texas, but if I did, I’d go for a sales tax holiday. It doesn’t matter if it doesn’t stimulate business long term, because that’s not the point. Giving back to taxpayers is. And those that paid the most taxes would likely buy the most, therefore benefiting most from the tax holiday.

For future years, sales tax rates could be scaled back to avoid excess tax revenues.

NbyNW on January 30, 2013 at 1:00 AM

It’s not socialism to give money back to taxpayers. I don’t live in Texas, but if I did, I’d go for a sales tax holiday. It doesn’t matter if it doesn’t stimulate business long term, because that’s not the point. Giving back to taxpayers is. And those that paid the most taxes would likely buy the most, therefore benefiting most from the tax holiday.

For future years, sales tax rates could be scaled back to avoid excess tax revenues.

NbyNW on January 30, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Exactly. The way to GIVE BACK TAXES to the people is to CUT TAXES. Surplus is one indication that the government has taken too much; thus, the state has the moral obligation to lower taxes where it can to save Texans from being robbed by their own government.

I certainly pity the folks further above that aren’t smart enough to have figured that out before they posted about socialism, redistribution of wealth, etc. Their comments form a sort of virtual wall of shame.

TXJenny on January 30, 2013 at 1:25 AM

I’ve been up since 0300 yesterday, so I’m acting a bit squirrely…er.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 29, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Glad you’re home safe!

GWB on January 30, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Now this is my kind of “Oops” government leader.

philoise65 on January 30, 2013 at 9:40 AM

It’s not socialism to give money back to taxpayers. I don’t live in Texas, but if I did, I’d go for a sales tax holiday. It doesn’t matter if it doesn’t stimulate business long term, because that’s not the point. Giving back to taxpayers is. And those that paid the most taxes would likely buy the most, therefore benefiting most from the tax holiday.

For future years, sales tax rates could be scaled back to avoid excess tax revenues.

NbyNW on January 30, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Actually, I think I explained perfectly my problem with the idea of giving tax money back to the people.
If you give it back say on an equal amount per person, then you are subsidizing the poor the most. From the rich who pay massive amounts to the poor who pay very little. If I am not mistaken, some poor can even get a refund of their sales taxes if they keep good records and are really really poor.

Your idea of a tax holiday is what I wrote would be a good idea(I actually said reduced tax rate until the budget is where they want it). It is however not GIVING ANYTHING BACK, it just is taking less.

Giving the money out though is socialism, unless you can calculate out and return in proportion the money. Someone who spent $5 million in the last year compared to someone who spent $5,000 on taxable items would be subsidizing the poor otherwise.

astonerii on January 30, 2013 at 11:18 AM

For those who wonder how you give it back fairly there is a site to suggest ways to do just that. It does not offer the option of Send Landowner a check.

It offers, reduce sales tax, add to homeowner exemption by xdollars, etc.

The fact is there is a liberal bastion in Austin and San Antone that would cry but but but the chirens!! What about them?

The budget forecast got cut 2 years ago and they have still not gotten over the DEEP CUTS to the schools. (there were no cuts…budget projection cuts only).

You have to love that any politician even suggests that you should get it back…well glad I live here.

landowner on January 30, 2013 at 4:39 PM