Quotes of the day

posted at 10:19 pm on January 28, 2013 by Allahpundit

A marginalized group emerged from the shadows today to assert that they indeed have a voice, and a future, in American society. We speak, of course, of members of Congress. After years of scurrying for political cover, a brave handful of senators held a daylight, weekday news conference in Washington to present — in writing — a surprisingly detailed outline for overhauling the nation’s immigration laws…

Trey Gowdy, a second-term Republican who is chairman of the House Judiciary Committee’s immigration subcommittee, is known as a hawk on illegal immigration. Yet he told a newspaper in his home state of South Carolina that he wants a system that reflects “the humanity that I think defines us as a people, and the respect for the rule of law that defines us as a republic.” If that’s the standard Congress maintains for immigration reform, millions will be on a path to citizenship, and the nation will be on the high road to success.

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Advocates expect to lose at least five Democrats in the Senate, which means they will need upwards of a dozen Republicans to vote for the legislation. That’s where Rubio and other tea party favorites like Sen. Mike Lee of Utah will come into play. Rubio and Lee are newcomers to an old discussion among Republican veterans like McCain and Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. Newly elected Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona will be a key Republican player as well…

Boehner has to be careful. He only has so many chances to put incendiary legislation on the floor before his caucus stages an all-out revolt. To appease them, he will probably offer one or two high-profile House votes, where Democrats will protest like crazy, on enforcement-only immigration legislation. That gets the dealmakers to the next step, a conference committee where anything can happen. As Kennedy was fond of saying, “We’ll fix it in conference.”

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“As I’ve stated before, elections, elections,” said McCain, who along with seven colleagues spoke out at a Monday afternoon Capitol Hill press conference about a set of bipartisan principles for reform they had released a day earlier.

“The Republican Party is losing the support of our Hispanic citizens, and we realize there are many issues in which we think we are in agreement with our Hispanic citizens, but this is a pre-eminent issue for those citizens,” said McCain, his party’s standard-bearer in the 2008 presidential election.

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Why won’t this new reform be a repeat of the 1986 reform, when the amnesty provisions were implemented but the enforcement half was blocked by ACLU-style lawsuits and bureaucratic weakness? The result was a broken border and the approximately 11 million new unauthorized immigrants we’re talking about giving amnesty to today. (If it wouldn’t bother you if an Obama amnesty attracted millions of new unauthorized immigrants, then let’s be open about that.)…

Are we really that good at assimilating? Yes, American culture is powerful. But now there is an entrenched lobby for bilingual education, and identity politics curricula that teach young people they’re right to resist assimilation. Formal and informal race preferences reward Americans for maintaining separate ethnic identies. And then there’s Univision, which would go out of business if too many people spoke the common language.

Isn’t Mexico special? Other immigrants had to cross oceans and cut ties to get here–and many still do. But half of our new unauthorized immigrants come from a single country a day’s drive away–a nation with a not-implausible claim to much of our Southwestern territory. The “border” may mean something else to them than it does to us, or to other immigrants. Everywhere else in the world this is a recipe for turmoil. Why are we immune?

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As the Hispanic electorate becomes less Cuban, more Mexican and Central American, it becomes less susceptible to GOP cultural themes. The claim that Hispanic voters are “natural Republicans” is based on nothing but wishful thinking, fortified by ignorance.

Economically struggling Hispanics need and want more government than the GOP will offer them, and the 11 million illegals soon to embark on their “path to citizenship” will need and want even more: Earned Income Tax Credits, Medicaid, Section 8 housing, food stamps, and so on. Even into the fourth generation after joining the American workforce, Mexican-Americans remain strikingly less likely to finish college than Anglo-Americans.

It’s not true for everyone, of course, but it’s true for enough to ensure that Democrats will win the larger share of the Hispanic vote for a long time to come.

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By definition, creating a path to citizenship turns illegal aliens into potential voters, and any serious analysis of Hispanic opinion tells you that those new voters’ interests and beliefs will tend to align with the Democratic Party. No, not necessarily forever, but across the next few decades of American politics there is simply no plausible case that gratitude to Marco Rubio and Jeff Flake will convert a liberal-leaning voting bloc into a true swing constituency, let alone a Republican-tilting demographic. Which makes it very, very easy to imagine a future where immigration reform helps Republicans win a slightly higher percentage of the Hispanic vote, but costs them many more votes in absolute terms by accelerating the ongoing demographic shifts in the electorate. (And that’s without getting into the incentives that such a deal would create for future migration, or its disillusioning impact on the working class white voters the G.O.P. still can’t win without …)

Presumably these costs would be reduced if the reform’s path to citizenship were long and arduous enough, with more waiting and more hurdles than a straightforward amnesty. But then the immediate political benefits to Republicans become much more uncertain as well, since they would still be playing the “bad cop” role in a policy debate that would no doubt extend for many years after the initial bill were passed. (The ads write themselves: “Republican candidate X says that he supports immigration reform, but he’s voted again and again to keep hardworking immigrants in legal limbo, deny their children benefits, etc. …”)

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[O]pen-borders advocacy groups are signaling that they will fight any enforcement measures that are enacted into law. One activist writes at the Huffington Post that any amnesty package should terminate a program that prosecutes border infiltrators (it’s a misdemeanor on the first offense, a felony afterward). You would think they’d be willing to support such a program after an amnesty and after the Senate outline’s provision for effectively unlimited immigration go into effect. But apparently they understand better than clueless Republican pols that an amnesty bill will serve as a magnet for more illegal immigration because the enforcement promises are fake, and they want to make sure that flow is not impeded.

Also, the ACLU has made clear that it will wage a legal jihad against the provision mandating the screening of all new hires with the E-Verify system. E-Verify is the main enforcement bait the open-borders crowd holds out to attract naïve conservatives to back amnesty (though the Senate outline was careful not to mention E-Verify specifically, because Schumer wants to replace it with something “better,” a process which wouldn’t be completed until years after all the current illegals are legalized — if ever). Preventing its full implementation is key to crippling future enforcement and ensuring that illegal immigration continues.

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U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) issued the following statement regarding today’s bipartisan immigration reform proposal:

I appreciate the good work that senators in both parties have put into trying to fix our broken immigration system. There are some good elements in this proposal, especially increasing the resources and manpower to secure our border and also improving and streamlining legal immigration. However, I have deep concerns with the proposed path to citizenship. To allow those who came here illegally to be placed on such a path is both inconsistent with rule of law and profoundly unfair to the millions of legal immigrants who waited years, if not decades, to come to America legally.

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Today, Senator Mike Lee made the following statement with regard to the Statement of Principles on immigration reform released by the Group of Eight:…

I remain greatly supportive of what the group aims to accomplish and will continue to work with my colleagues to solve many of the challenges this important issue presents. Although I am encouraged by the process and continue to support efforts to make real progress on immigration reform, I am not able to sign the Statement of Principles released today.

These guidelines contemplate a policy that will grant special benefits to illegal immigrants based on their unlawful presence in the country. Reforms to our complex and dysfunctional immigration system should not in any way favor those who came here illegally over the millions of applicants who seek to come here lawfully.

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A House conservative who has taken a leading role in the lower chamber’s discussions on immigration, Rep. Raul Labrador (R-Idaho), said the ideas released Monday were “good principles” that were similar to those that members of both parties in the House were discussing.

But he said the group’s proposal for a path to citizenship stuck out as a concern and would be “tough” to accept in the House.

“I think that’s going to be one of the sticking points between the House and the Senate,” Labrador said. “We have to be careful about rewarding people for illegal activity with citizenship.”…

Labrador said he and other conservatives are looking for signs that President Obama wants a “policy victory” on immigration and not simply a “political victory” that comes from blaming Republicans for a failure to pass legislation.

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Which brings us back to Mr. Obama. The President will lay out his own reform principles Tuesday, but the question is whether he wants an achievement or a political issue. If he wants a genuine reform, the Senate framework shows how much Republicans have already moved his way. GOP leaders can read the 2012 exit polls, and thanks to the persuasion of Mr. Rubio, Jeb Bush and a few others, more conservatives are now more amenable to reform.

Yet neither Mr. Obama nor his White House have reached out to Mr. Rubio, and many Democrats want to use the immigration issue to drive turnout in election after election. Their goal is to have a legislative dance and then blame Republicans for killing reform sometime in 2014.

If that is Mr. Obama’s real goal, he’ll demand too much—by gutting the guest-worker program again or complicating it with too much bureaucracy, or by insisting on a quick and easy path to citizenship for illegals. Mr. Obama will have to decide if he wants a legacy of reform, or more partisanship.

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One of the things to look for is whether Obama has the good sense to lead from behind and not claim this plan as his own crusade. That is the surest way to piss off Congress, especially congressional Republicans, just as it is children and bosses. Letting them come up with the plan and showing a willingness to sign off on it would probably be the best bet. If it’s seen as Obama’s plan, they’ll reflexively oppose it. If it’s Marco Rubio’s plan, even if it bears little difference from Obama’s, Republicans—who want Hispanics’ love even more than a tax cut—will embrace it…

Getting to the finish line on immigration won’t be easy despite the new receptivity. There are policy questions: Will the E-Verify system be widely demanded or not? What’s the route to green cards? There are political ones: Can the tea party back off its tough stand on immigration? Can labor and Hispanic groups accept tougher documentation standards? There’s a reason we haven’t had a big immigration bill in more than a generation. Knowing when to have a light touch will require the president to be less assertive than he was in his inaugural address.

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“If we do succeed, and I think we will, it will be a testimonial to Ted Kennedy’s effort years ago that laid the groundwork for this agreement,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a member of the bipartisan group of senators that on Monday backed a set of principles for comprehensive immigration reform.

“You will find that this agreement has very little difference from that of the legislation that was led by Sen. Kennedy some years ago.”

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“I think it’s important before we let the moment pass to acknowledge that the progress we’re seeing embodied in the priniciples put forward by this bipartisan group is happening for a reason: I think it’s happening because consensus is developing in the country, a bipartisan consensus, and it’s happening because the president has demonstrated significant leadership on this issue,” Carney said.

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Via Greg Hengler.


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Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 12:26 AM

Thanks, I’ll need to open more then.

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 12:34 AM

Don’t Fear the Reaper

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:28 AM

Skipped it for Burnin’. :) Then I may go see how history shows again and again something or other. Love BOC. Really mello on the tempanic.

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:35 AM

The next in line is Santorum, not Jebbie. Relax. lol

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 12:35 AM

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:33 AM

Thing is tho you can sing and play :-) I check your utube out from time to time :-)

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:36 AM

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:28 AM

Skipped it for Burnin’. :) Then I may go see how history shows again and again something or other. Love BOC. Really mello on the tempanic.

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:35 AM

Needs more cowbell tambourine… ;p

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:36 AM

I remember something about Flake and it had to do with Obamacare. Can’t recall at the moment, but he must have voted the wrong way; otherwise I wouldn’t think that.

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 12:23 AM

Nope, only the idiot from NOLA was the only republican to vote for obamacare. He hasn’t been too bad.

AZfederalist on January 29, 2013 at 12:37 AM

Thanks to all for da tunes, which is usually all I can handle this late … with vino ..
My consumption of QOTD can often vary, considering quantity of vino consumed before entrance into such sacred hallows .. Hehe.. HENCEFORTH …
Time to call this a VERY full day, and leave y’all to da best stuff I’ll eagerly catch up with, in my early morn !
Blessings to all.

pambi on January 29, 2013 at 12:37 AM

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:33 AM

Thing is tho you can sing and play :-) I check your utube out from time to time :-)

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:36 AM

That was a long time ago though… Now I’m old and just sit around talking about those Glory Days

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:38 AM

Needs more cowbell tambourine… ;p

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:36 AM

I can give you two reasons why I love that idea. :)

Where is Spark, anyway? Too good? Too important? Has become a little famous and now he’s all Mr. Big Shorts?

I see how it is.

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:38 AM

Paul Ryan wants me to tell you all that Clinton would have fixed this thread by now.

Rusty Allen on January 29, 2013 at 12:38 AM

Nite, pambi with VINO.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 12:39 AM

Needs more cowbell tambourine… ;p

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:36 AM

I can give you two reasons why I love that idea. :)

Where is Spark, anyway? Too good? Too important? Has become a little famous and now he’s all Mr. Big Shorts?

I see how it is.

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:38 AM

Yup, spends all his time now riding around in Dire’s limo smoking big fat Cuban Cigars and drinking Krystal and flirting with the nymphs in the Glade…

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:40 AM

Thanks to all for da tunes, which is usually all I can handle this late … with vino ..
My consumption of QOTD can often vary, considering quantity of vino consumed before entrance into such sacred hallows .. Hehe.. HENCEFORTH …
Time to call this a VERY full day, and leave y’all to da best stuff I’ll eagerly catch up with, in my early morn !
Blessings to all.

pambi on January 29, 2013 at 12:37 AM

LOL — $5 says there was an inappropriate gasp somewhere around that HENCEFORTH.

Night pampi. :)

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:40 AM

*Hmmm. The b is upside down.

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:41 AM

I think I’m going to become a low information voter before my head explodes. Don’t worry, I still won’t vote for any Democrats, I can’t get that stupid.

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:41 AM

Hi, Rusty. How you doin, dude? You ok?

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 12:44 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nr0AbE6YfQ

Somthing completely different! Hope you all like it…

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:45 AM

That’s a great label. One that needs to be used and often.

INC on January 29, 2013 at 12:21 AM

If I do any more faxing or emailing, I may refer to Speaker Boomtown Boehner or Senator Boomtown McConnell. I spent the summer of 2009 fighting that Obamacare. But like everything else coming out of Boomtown, it doesn’t matter.

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 12:45 AM

Tommy, I’m doing alright. Thanks for asking.

Rusty Allen on January 29, 2013 at 12:45 AM

Just cause I’m feeling evil… ;) Run

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:46 AM

Nah Cindy, don’t get too bogged down. This too will pass. Keep your spirits up.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 12:46 AM

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:38 AM

You still got it!!

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:46 AM

I think I’m going to become a low information voter before my head explodes. Don’t worry, I still won’t vote for any Democrats, I can’t get that stupid.

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:41 AM

It is kind of nice to tune it out a while. I was a low-information voter for a couple weeks till this weekend. Highly recommend it. Will be again first thing in the morning for another one. :)

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:46 AM

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:41 AM

I tell you what Cindy, we have some huge challenges to figure out in front of us. Starting to wear me out a bit.

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 12:47 AM

Hey Rusty!

Good to see you back!

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:46 AM

Ahhh…:) Grasping the harshless mellow with an open hand.

Well done. :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 12:49 AM

I think I’m going to become a low information voter before my head explodes. Don’t worry, I still won’t vote for any Democrats, I can’t get that stupid.

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:41 AM

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WHAT ? ! ! … Ignorance is BLISS ? ! !

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo . . . . .
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We’ve lost Cindy’ . . . . . : (

listens2glenn on January 29, 2013 at 12:49 AM

Theres gun control, climate change, sequester, CRs, debt ceiling. Lot of crapola up ahead.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 12:50 AM

I need to stop using the internet right before bed. Too much stuff that is just infuriating.

Jackalope on January 29, 2013 at 12:50 AM

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:38 AM

Good to reminisce…

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:51 AM

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:46 AM

I was out for almost four weeks and I swear I am more annoyed than ever.

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 12:47 A

Deep in my heart I know that that is the plan.

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:51 AM

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 12:34 AM

Sorry, I am on that iPad thingy and don’t leave tabs open. Had I been on one of the machines it would have undoubtably been left open. Bad habit from having two cine displays. Lol!

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 12:51 AM

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 12:49 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on January 29, 2013 at 12:51 AM

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:41 AM

I tell you what Cindy, we have some huge challenges to figure out in front of us. Starting to wear me out a bit.

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 12:47 AM

Add me to the list. It gets tiring dealing with this mess.

AZfederalist on January 29, 2013 at 12:51 AM

Theres gun control, climate change, sequester, CRs, debt ceiling. Lot of crapola up ahead.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 12:50 AM

Yup, and to make matters worse, the tires are bald, the brakes shot and somebody poured oil all over The Highway…

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:51 AM

I’m calling it a night, puppies are insisting.

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:52 AM

The reply I want to make to MarshFox starts, “God told me once” — and I just don’t have the energy to field the backlash. Heh. :) Screwed around all day fighting the good fight. I’m not sure, but my sword made a whimpering sound about dinner. I hope RWM didn’t hear it.

I should probably Sketchbook a post and link it to him . . . Too tired for even that tonight, though.

Could just let it go . . .

You know, participating in the public discourse is exhausting. I don’t know how AP does it every single day.

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:52 AM

Dire Straits on January 29, 2013 at 12:51 AM

Good evening, Dire! Wonderful to see you. :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 12:52 AM

Good to see you scrumpy, how’s your night?

Rusty Allen on January 29, 2013 at 12:52 AM

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 12:45 AM

I think it mattered because they had to pull every trick they could to pass it, and then had to sneak it through at Christmas. Every bit of energy and time they had to squander on it meant they couldn’t do something else.

At the moment they’re pretty drunk on the election. I’ve begun to wonder if they’re going to go sprawling. They’re starting to juggle too many plates.

INC on January 29, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:52 AM

Goodnight, Cindy.

I don’t believe for a moment that you’ll become a ‘low information voter’. Sorry, it’s not in your nature.

Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Why don’t we just schedule the next amnesty now. Say, March 2027.

SukieTawdry on January 29, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Nite Cindy. God bless.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 12:55 AM

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Too true, I’m just going to get meaner the longer that man is in office.

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:55 AM

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:46 AM

That is a great song! Re-release it!

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:55 AM

I’m calling it a night, puppies are insisting.

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:52 AM

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God bless, and good night.

listens2glenn on January 29, 2013 at 12:55 AM

Good evening Jackie!

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:56 AM

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 12:23 AM

Nope, only the idiot from NOLA was the only republican to vote for obamacare. He hasn’t been too bad.

AZfederalist on January 29, 2013 at 12:37 AM

Oh I know on the final vote only one voted. But there were many other votes before and also many Amendments that most people don’t know that passed too. If I recall, I’ll post it.

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 12:56 AM

No Reason To Cry – Moore

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Ahhh…:) Grasping the harshless mellow with an open hand.

Well done. :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 12:49 AM

O great. Didn’t see you there. Figures. My sword didn’t whimper. That was a joke. I’m fierce and tireless.

*yawn*

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Rusty Allen on January 29, 2013 at 12:52 AM

I am feeling better! Night is good, spinning tunes lol…

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:57 AM

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Good evening, Scrumpy, my Spritely One! So good to see you. :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 12:57 AM

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Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:51 AM

Yep. It’s the fuel that keeps me in it at this point. You know where I am. It’s all just starting to be a little much. Last night was an eye opener for me when Fallon kinda called me on being so feisty. It is and has been reflected in my mood. Not in a good way. It’s why I stayed away while I did. I figured by toward the mid to end of a months absence I’d do okay. I may have been wrong. May have to catch another break. Don’t want be ugly. Not why I’m here.

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 12:57 AM

Sukie, don’t give Rubio any ideas. McCain may not last till then, but Rubio is young.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 12:58 AM

I’m calling it a night, puppies are insisting.

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:52 AM

Night excellent Cindy Munford and Cindy Munford’s excellent puppies.

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:58 AM

Good Night Cindy, Sweet Dreams As Always.

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 12:59 AM

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Yes… you are… fierce and tireless. :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 12:59 AM

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Good evening, Scrumpy, my Spritely One! So good to see you. :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 12:57 AM

You were otherwise occupied, so I was dazzling her with feats of glory from my misspent youth… ;)

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Good evening, Scrumpy, my Spritely One! So good to see you. :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 12:57 AM

When Scrumpy is Spritely then I’m content. Plus when Jackie goes in the pool on a well-lit night I’m really contented.

SparkPlug on January 29, 2013 at 1:00 AM

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Is that a reference to Whacky Tabacky? LOL

SparkPlug on January 29, 2013 at 1:01 AM

Sorry, I am on that iPad thingy and don’t leave tabs open. Had I been on one of the machines it would have undoubtably been left open. Bad habit from having two cine displays. Lol!

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 12:51 AM

No problem. I went back up and didn’t see any active links to even open. I’ll find it somewhere. Carry on:-) The fact that those Boomtown 8 are part of it tells me I don’t need to know anything more than that.

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 1:01 AM

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Misspent my azz!! Lol…

How can it be, when you were doing somthing you love to do?

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 1:02 AM

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 1:00 AM

And doing an excellent job of it, too. :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 1:02 AM

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:52 AM

There is a joke in that somewhere, but I won’t.

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 1:03 AM

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Is that a reference to Whacky Tabacky? LOL

SparkPlug on January 29, 2013 at 1:01 AM

These days it’s just regular pipe Tabacky… ;p And Earl Gray Tea with milk and sugar… ;)

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 1:03 AM

SparkPlug on January 29, 2013 at 1:00 AM

So good to see you, tonight, Spark! I’m ready for the firewatch report when you’re ready. :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 1:04 AM

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Misspent my azz!! Lol…

How can it be, when you were doing somthing you love to do?

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 1:02 AM

Sigh… Came with one hell of a price tag. Now I’m old, broke down unemployed and no retirement plan…

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Evening everybody. Don’t you just love how each day is better than the one before? Me neither.

arnold ziffel on January 29, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 1:03 AM

Good evening, Bmore! Excellent to see you, as always. :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Where is Spark, anyway? Too good? Too important? Has become a little famous and now he’s all Mr. Big Shorts?

I see how it is.

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:38 AM

Jeepers. People think I’m getting a big head cause I ride in a Hot-Air balloon with Scrumpy my helper in a bikini. She wears the bikini not me.

Plus we get to shoot our Fire Hose at people, get them wet and taser them if they don’t obey us. Plus I get to spy on the Moon Goddess when she goes dipping in the pool. And I get Moon beans for compensation and run home to B9 when I get in trouble.

What A life. But I’m still just ole’ sparky.

SparkPlug on January 29, 2013 at 1:06 AM

arnold ziffel on January 29, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Every day that I get to see you is a good day, Arnold. :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 1:06 AM

SparkPlug on January 29, 2013 at 1:00 AM

So good to see you, tonight, Spark! I’m ready for the firewatch report when you’re ready. :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 1:04 AM

WTH? How’d he pull that off?

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 1:06 AM

Sigh… Came with one hell of a price tag. Now I’m old, broke down unemployed and no retirement plan…

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Lived on a sailboat for a year.

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 1:07 AM

Hmm…….Spark was MIA for a while but came on when Jackie logged in. I wonder why. SW, you thinking what I’m thinking? ;-)

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 1:07 AM

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 1:06 AM

I carefully studied your little book on *poofing* and *un-poofing* in twelve easy steps.

SparkPlug on January 29, 2013 at 1:07 AM

AZfederalist on January 29, 2013 at 12:51 AM

We will get it okay AZ, just can’t let em get our humbles. That said redoubling efforts on so many fronts is hard. Not getting enough help from our side of the isle is unforgivable. We will get there. We simply must for the good of our country and for ourselves.

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 1:08 AM

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 1:06 AM

Well…Spark wanted to be gainfully employed in the Glade… and you were in absentia having ‘super poofed’ to the oubliette… and there was a need for fire safety and Spark has the Hot Airship Kerfuffle….

Don’t worry, though, Scrumpy is his deputy Fire Marshall and she’s going to keep an eye on him.. in her spotted bikini. :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 1:08 AM

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Similar boat!

I have a cat now so life is good again!

Take it easy and just enjoy what you have…

If I could turn back time, and do things over I would!

But it is what it is, regrets, a few, but now, all I have is me, and I am happy again!

Always look on the bright side eh :-)

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 1:08 AM

Sigh… Came with one hell of a price tag. Now I’m old, broke down unemployed and no retirement plan…

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Lived on a sailboat for a year.

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 1:07 AM

ROTFLMAO…. SOOOOO not as fun or romantic as it sounds believe me… lol lol lol … Row a boat to and from shore… o_O…

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 1:09 AM

Back when I was with the Flying Tigers in China at the battle of Chung King I adopted this orphan boy—Sungha Jung Ziffel. He is good with the guitar but doesn’t like farm work.

arnold ziffel on January 29, 2013 at 1:09 AM

Evening Jackie, didn’t see you here/there for a second. How are you? Fine I hope. ; )

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 1:10 AM

Here you go, Walker…. Gravity :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 1:10 AM

INC on January 29, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Yes, they did spend a lot of time on that Obamacare bill. However, they had the majority and it was going to pass no matter what. They made a big show of debating and voting down every amendment the R’s put forth.

The point I was making is that no matter what the American people want or don’t want doesn’t matter in the end. They do what they want, no matter the issue or bill. That’s the frustrating part. We the American people have no input or say.

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 1:10 AM

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 1:08 AM

Lol…

My wit is witless!!

I can never think of anything witty to say til way after!

Sparky got that down pat!

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 1:11 AM

Hmm…….Spark was MIA for a while but came on when Jackie logged in. I wonder why. SW, you thinking what I’m thinking? ;-)

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 1:07 AM

Yes, but how are we going to get three Flamingos to wear nylons?

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 1:12 AM

So good to see you, tonight, Spark! I’m ready for the firewatch report when you’re ready. :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 1:04 AM

Ok. I just have to fix a couple of typos and some grammar goof ups.

1. I Woke up late cause it was too cold.
2. Couldn’t heat up the Glade Air Ship Kerfuffle because it was too cold
3. The Fire Hose didn’t work cause it was too cold.
4. I begged Scrumps to snuggle me cause it was too cold.
5. Fortunately there were no fires cause it was too cold.

SparkPlug on January 29, 2013 at 1:12 AM

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 1:10 AM

I’m fine, Bmore. Thanks for thinking of me. I hope you and yours are well. Also, I generally like you when you’re a touch on the ‘feisty’ side. But then I generally like you anyway. :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 1:12 AM

Looks like I need to have these eyes of mine checked. Good evening Dire my friend! ; ) I’m afraid to report I’m a bit slow tonight. Lol!

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 1:13 AM

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 1:07 AM

Yes, but how are we going to get three Flamingos to wear nylons?

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 1:12 AM

Bwaaahh. That’s funny and I’m sure I don’t even get the joke. O_o

SparkPlug on January 29, 2013 at 1:13 AM

Every day that I get to see you is a good day, Arnold. :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 1:06 AM

That was nice. Thanks, I feel the same. As I told bishop earlier, the HA posters keep me laughing and thinking instead of crying. I’m still angry though. I just thought of something, where has angrymike been for the last couple months?

arnold ziffel on January 29, 2013 at 1:13 AM

SparkPlug on January 29, 2013 at 1:12 AM

I’m glad about the lack of fires… sorry to hear you’re so cold… but, hey! Cheer up! Our current administration assures us that ‘the science is settled’ and we’re broiling from ‘global warming’! :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 1:14 AM

arnold ziffel on January 29, 2013 at 1:09 AM

For Arnold!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSkP3uym5k

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 1:14 AM

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 1:12 AM

Bwaaahh. That’s funny and I’m sure I don’t even get the joke. O_o

SparkPlug on January 29, 2013 at 1:13 AM

Think Pinky and the Brain… ;)

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 1:15 AM

I just don’t get why all the Yankees are griping about something called “cold” when they choose to live up th’ Northerland, what with the penguins and Canadians and such, where there’s “cold” to be had from just pickin it up off th’ ground.

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 1:15 AM

arnold ziffel on January 29, 2013 at 1:13 AM

Not sure about where Mike has been keeping himself. As to the anger issue… it’s normal to feel that way…but don’t let it dwell on you. You’re well being is the most important thing. :)

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 1:16 AM

thatsafactjack on January 29, 2013 at 1:12 AM

I appreciate that Jackie. I think maybe I should correct course on that streak of meanness I’ve had more of than usual, lately. I’m gonna try an adjustment or two. ; )

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 1:16 AM

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 1:07 AM

Yes, but how are we going to get three Flamingos to wear nylons?

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 1:12 AM

Bwaaahh. That’s funny and I’m sure I don’t even get the joke. O_o

SparkPlug on January 29, 2013 at 1:13 AM

Ya’all are just too funny!!

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 1:17 AM

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 1:11 AM

Now Scrumpy we all know you are a witty little minx kitten who is as Spritley and the Angels that dance in my head when I see you.

They are all wearing the new strapless Victoria Secret push up bra so that the straps won’t get tangled up in there wings as they fly around in my head slamming into my cranium because it is so dark in there.

SparkPlug on January 29, 2013 at 1:18 AM

Yeah right, put Schumer in front of B right now, and we’ll see the meanness in all its glory. ;-)

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 1:20 AM

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