Quotes of the day

posted at 10:19 pm on January 28, 2013 by Allahpundit

A marginalized group emerged from the shadows today to assert that they indeed have a voice, and a future, in American society. We speak, of course, of members of Congress. After years of scurrying for political cover, a brave handful of senators held a daylight, weekday news conference in Washington to present — in writing — a surprisingly detailed outline for overhauling the nation’s immigration laws…

Trey Gowdy, a second-term Republican who is chairman of the House Judiciary Committee’s immigration subcommittee, is known as a hawk on illegal immigration. Yet he told a newspaper in his home state of South Carolina that he wants a system that reflects “the humanity that I think defines us as a people, and the respect for the rule of law that defines us as a republic.” If that’s the standard Congress maintains for immigration reform, millions will be on a path to citizenship, and the nation will be on the high road to success.

***

Advocates expect to lose at least five Democrats in the Senate, which means they will need upwards of a dozen Republicans to vote for the legislation. That’s where Rubio and other tea party favorites like Sen. Mike Lee of Utah will come into play. Rubio and Lee are newcomers to an old discussion among Republican veterans like McCain and Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. Newly elected Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona will be a key Republican player as well…

Boehner has to be careful. He only has so many chances to put incendiary legislation on the floor before his caucus stages an all-out revolt. To appease them, he will probably offer one or two high-profile House votes, where Democrats will protest like crazy, on enforcement-only immigration legislation. That gets the dealmakers to the next step, a conference committee where anything can happen. As Kennedy was fond of saying, “We’ll fix it in conference.”

***

“As I’ve stated before, elections, elections,” said McCain, who along with seven colleagues spoke out at a Monday afternoon Capitol Hill press conference about a set of bipartisan principles for reform they had released a day earlier.

“The Republican Party is losing the support of our Hispanic citizens, and we realize there are many issues in which we think we are in agreement with our Hispanic citizens, but this is a pre-eminent issue for those citizens,” said McCain, his party’s standard-bearer in the 2008 presidential election.

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Why won’t this new reform be a repeat of the 1986 reform, when the amnesty provisions were implemented but the enforcement half was blocked by ACLU-style lawsuits and bureaucratic weakness? The result was a broken border and the approximately 11 million new unauthorized immigrants we’re talking about giving amnesty to today. (If it wouldn’t bother you if an Obama amnesty attracted millions of new unauthorized immigrants, then let’s be open about that.)…

Are we really that good at assimilating? Yes, American culture is powerful. But now there is an entrenched lobby for bilingual education, and identity politics curricula that teach young people they’re right to resist assimilation. Formal and informal race preferences reward Americans for maintaining separate ethnic identies. And then there’s Univision, which would go out of business if too many people spoke the common language.

Isn’t Mexico special? Other immigrants had to cross oceans and cut ties to get here–and many still do. But half of our new unauthorized immigrants come from a single country a day’s drive away–a nation with a not-implausible claim to much of our Southwestern territory. The “border” may mean something else to them than it does to us, or to other immigrants. Everywhere else in the world this is a recipe for turmoil. Why are we immune?

***

As the Hispanic electorate becomes less Cuban, more Mexican and Central American, it becomes less susceptible to GOP cultural themes. The claim that Hispanic voters are “natural Republicans” is based on nothing but wishful thinking, fortified by ignorance.

Economically struggling Hispanics need and want more government than the GOP will offer them, and the 11 million illegals soon to embark on their “path to citizenship” will need and want even more: Earned Income Tax Credits, Medicaid, Section 8 housing, food stamps, and so on. Even into the fourth generation after joining the American workforce, Mexican-Americans remain strikingly less likely to finish college than Anglo-Americans.

It’s not true for everyone, of course, but it’s true for enough to ensure that Democrats will win the larger share of the Hispanic vote for a long time to come.

***

By definition, creating a path to citizenship turns illegal aliens into potential voters, and any serious analysis of Hispanic opinion tells you that those new voters’ interests and beliefs will tend to align with the Democratic Party. No, not necessarily forever, but across the next few decades of American politics there is simply no plausible case that gratitude to Marco Rubio and Jeff Flake will convert a liberal-leaning voting bloc into a true swing constituency, let alone a Republican-tilting demographic. Which makes it very, very easy to imagine a future where immigration reform helps Republicans win a slightly higher percentage of the Hispanic vote, but costs them many more votes in absolute terms by accelerating the ongoing demographic shifts in the electorate. (And that’s without getting into the incentives that such a deal would create for future migration, or its disillusioning impact on the working class white voters the G.O.P. still can’t win without …)

Presumably these costs would be reduced if the reform’s path to citizenship were long and arduous enough, with more waiting and more hurdles than a straightforward amnesty. But then the immediate political benefits to Republicans become much more uncertain as well, since they would still be playing the “bad cop” role in a policy debate that would no doubt extend for many years after the initial bill were passed. (The ads write themselves: “Republican candidate X says that he supports immigration reform, but he’s voted again and again to keep hardworking immigrants in legal limbo, deny their children benefits, etc. …”)

***

[O]pen-borders advocacy groups are signaling that they will fight any enforcement measures that are enacted into law. One activist writes at the Huffington Post that any amnesty package should terminate a program that prosecutes border infiltrators (it’s a misdemeanor on the first offense, a felony afterward). You would think they’d be willing to support such a program after an amnesty and after the Senate outline’s provision for effectively unlimited immigration go into effect. But apparently they understand better than clueless Republican pols that an amnesty bill will serve as a magnet for more illegal immigration because the enforcement promises are fake, and they want to make sure that flow is not impeded.

Also, the ACLU has made clear that it will wage a legal jihad against the provision mandating the screening of all new hires with the E-Verify system. E-Verify is the main enforcement bait the open-borders crowd holds out to attract naïve conservatives to back amnesty (though the Senate outline was careful not to mention E-Verify specifically, because Schumer wants to replace it with something “better,” a process which wouldn’t be completed until years after all the current illegals are legalized — if ever). Preventing its full implementation is key to crippling future enforcement and ensuring that illegal immigration continues.

***

U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) issued the following statement regarding today’s bipartisan immigration reform proposal:

I appreciate the good work that senators in both parties have put into trying to fix our broken immigration system. There are some good elements in this proposal, especially increasing the resources and manpower to secure our border and also improving and streamlining legal immigration. However, I have deep concerns with the proposed path to citizenship. To allow those who came here illegally to be placed on such a path is both inconsistent with rule of law and profoundly unfair to the millions of legal immigrants who waited years, if not decades, to come to America legally.

***

Today, Senator Mike Lee made the following statement with regard to the Statement of Principles on immigration reform released by the Group of Eight:…

I remain greatly supportive of what the group aims to accomplish and will continue to work with my colleagues to solve many of the challenges this important issue presents. Although I am encouraged by the process and continue to support efforts to make real progress on immigration reform, I am not able to sign the Statement of Principles released today.

These guidelines contemplate a policy that will grant special benefits to illegal immigrants based on their unlawful presence in the country. Reforms to our complex and dysfunctional immigration system should not in any way favor those who came here illegally over the millions of applicants who seek to come here lawfully.

***

A House conservative who has taken a leading role in the lower chamber’s discussions on immigration, Rep. Raul Labrador (R-Idaho), said the ideas released Monday were “good principles” that were similar to those that members of both parties in the House were discussing.

But he said the group’s proposal for a path to citizenship stuck out as a concern and would be “tough” to accept in the House.

“I think that’s going to be one of the sticking points between the House and the Senate,” Labrador said. “We have to be careful about rewarding people for illegal activity with citizenship.”…

Labrador said he and other conservatives are looking for signs that President Obama wants a “policy victory” on immigration and not simply a “political victory” that comes from blaming Republicans for a failure to pass legislation.

***

Which brings us back to Mr. Obama. The President will lay out his own reform principles Tuesday, but the question is whether he wants an achievement or a political issue. If he wants a genuine reform, the Senate framework shows how much Republicans have already moved his way. GOP leaders can read the 2012 exit polls, and thanks to the persuasion of Mr. Rubio, Jeb Bush and a few others, more conservatives are now more amenable to reform.

Yet neither Mr. Obama nor his White House have reached out to Mr. Rubio, and many Democrats want to use the immigration issue to drive turnout in election after election. Their goal is to have a legislative dance and then blame Republicans for killing reform sometime in 2014.

If that is Mr. Obama’s real goal, he’ll demand too much—by gutting the guest-worker program again or complicating it with too much bureaucracy, or by insisting on a quick and easy path to citizenship for illegals. Mr. Obama will have to decide if he wants a legacy of reform, or more partisanship.

***

One of the things to look for is whether Obama has the good sense to lead from behind and not claim this plan as his own crusade. That is the surest way to piss off Congress, especially congressional Republicans, just as it is children and bosses. Letting them come up with the plan and showing a willingness to sign off on it would probably be the best bet. If it’s seen as Obama’s plan, they’ll reflexively oppose it. If it’s Marco Rubio’s plan, even if it bears little difference from Obama’s, Republicans—who want Hispanics’ love even more than a tax cut—will embrace it…

Getting to the finish line on immigration won’t be easy despite the new receptivity. There are policy questions: Will the E-Verify system be widely demanded or not? What’s the route to green cards? There are political ones: Can the tea party back off its tough stand on immigration? Can labor and Hispanic groups accept tougher documentation standards? There’s a reason we haven’t had a big immigration bill in more than a generation. Knowing when to have a light touch will require the president to be less assertive than he was in his inaugural address.

***

“If we do succeed, and I think we will, it will be a testimonial to Ted Kennedy’s effort years ago that laid the groundwork for this agreement,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a member of the bipartisan group of senators that on Monday backed a set of principles for comprehensive immigration reform.

“You will find that this agreement has very little difference from that of the legislation that was led by Sen. Kennedy some years ago.”

***

***

“I think it’s important before we let the moment pass to acknowledge that the progress we’re seeing embodied in the priniciples put forward by this bipartisan group is happening for a reason: I think it’s happening because consensus is developing in the country, a bipartisan consensus, and it’s happening because the president has demonstrated significant leadership on this issue,” Carney said.

***

Via Greg Hengler.


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WOW !
Page 2, and y’all are still on subject ? kewl !
Not sarc, btw .. Just a vino-induced observation, is all.
Teehee.

pambi on January 28, 2013 at 11:36 PM

pambi:

Yup,sooooooooooooooo lets Rock:)

Iron Horse 01 Run For The Border
*********************************

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkdcVDIvC88

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:45 PM

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:39 PM

I have alot of relatives in New Brunswick, where my great grandfather is from. I’ve only met two, and they’re priests. I think I could stand the cold because God knows I can’t stand the thought of paying for 30 million illegals. And I don’t want to learn Spanish, which will be a necessity at some point.

TxAnn56 on January 28, 2013 at 11:46 PM

To bad, Bryan was great, always responded, even to goofy gag e-mails…

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:43 PM

I like Bryan a lot. He’s the only one at PJM that I try to keep up with.

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:47 PM

You’re right. I think that continued for a long time. I’m trying to think into the 20th century.

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:05 PM

IIRC, up until about WW2, anyone could walk up to the white house and ask to speak to the president.
And most, if they had some time, would speak with any citizen.

Solaratov on January 28, 2013 at 11:48 PM

TxAnn56 on January 28, 2013 at 11:40 PM

Reagan: “When you can’t make them see the light, make them feel the heat.”

Many in Congress have such little character that they easily succumb to group think in D.C. That’s a bad thing, but it also means that sometimes you can get them to squeal and retreat when faced by an enraged constituency.

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:48 PM

Folks we are fixing to be snookered on all of this. It’s being done not only the wrong way but for the wrong reasons. Too bad. Much of this could have been avoided if after 9-11 we had moved to secure the Southern border due to security concerns. We acted stupidly by not doing so. We haven’t gotten any smarter and now we are in a real spot. Rubio is conducting this train wreck. One more reason he has undermined his cred with me. Back to reading.

Bmore on January 28, 2013 at 11:48 PM

WOW !
Page 2, and y’all are still on subject ? kewl !
Not sarc, btw .. Just a vino-induced observation, is all.
Teehee.

pambi on January 28, 2013 at 11:36 PM

…QUICK!…tell bluegill !

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Please allow me to aggravate bluegill in absentia …

Two, new, very disturbing posts:

A Lib Dem MP Gives Voice To Britain’s National Sickness

British Yobs, Racial Slurs And Why I Fear For My Children: One British Mother’s Utterly Shocking Account Of Tthe Anit-Semitism Her Children Suffer

Resist We Much on January 28, 2013 at 11:49 PM

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:29 PM

Seems a bit forward demanding that the US provide citizens from your country with amnesty. More than a bit off-putting.

AZfederalist on January 28, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Not to mention winter lasts all damned year long in Canada… o_O

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:44 PM

True, but Canada has topless beaches now, so summer is the best two weeks of the year.

bw222 on January 28, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Nite, gg. And don’t let Schumer bite.

tommy71 on January 28, 2013 at 11:49 PM

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:44 PM

True, but Canada has topless beaches now, so summer is the best two weeks of the year.

bw222 on January 28, 2013 at 11:49 PM

So? who really cares if a Penguin or a Polar Bear wears a top? I mean, seriously who else would go to a Canadian beach?

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Since you’ve all depressed me LOL – I think it’s time for bed.

Good night all

gophergirl on January 28, 2013 at 11:43 PM

It’s all of those Congress Boomtown members!! They are the cause of all of this, but I know what you mean.

bluefox on January 28, 2013 at 11:52 PM

QUESTION?
Can one of you please tell me what the general response time is from the Hot Air tip line…I filled out their form with my email address… with my question…and it’s been a good 12 hours.
The only time I have used it (tip line) before… was when they banned a couple of veterans here…and I didn’t expect a response…because the people soon showed up here again…Thanks!

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:30 PM

KOOLAID2:

Dude,Hot Air Command and Control is Automated!
(sarc)

tips@hotair.com

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:52 PM

IIRC, up until about WW2, anyone could walk up to the white house and ask to speak to the president.
And most, if they had some time, would speak with any citizen.

Solaratov on January 28, 2013 at 11:48 PM

Thanks.

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:53 PM

Canada? Oh noes. Colder than a witch’s…..hmm…..well…. you know. ;-)

tommy71 on January 28, 2013 at 11:53 PM

Dude,Hot Air Command and Control is Automated!
(sarc)

tips@hotair.com

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:52 PM

No it’s not, that’s Allahpundit’s cat’s regular gig… ;p

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:54 PM

So? who really cares if a Penguin or a Polar Bear wears a top? I mean, seriously who else would go to a Canadian beach?

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Coming from the person who lives where you need a wet suit to go swimming on your beaches. ;-)

AZfederalist on January 28, 2013 at 11:54 PM

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Carry on y’all’s chit-chatting. ;-)
No tunes ? Hey !
jus sayin’.

pambi on January 28, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Many in Congress have such little character that they easily succumb to group think in D.C. That’s a bad thing, but it also means that sometimes you can get them to squeal and retreat when faced by an enraged constituency.

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:48 PM

True, including some who wouldn’t have stood a chance without Tea Party backing. Renee Ellmers (NC-2) comes immediately to mind. The GOP wouldn’t fund her in 2010, but as soon as she got to DC, Renee became John Boehner’s “go to” girl.

bw222 on January 28, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Simple question. You folks here are very familiar with this group of eight. Do you trust them on this. On anything for that matter?

The eight senators who signed on to the framework included four Democrats — Sens. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), Dick Durbin (Ill.), Robert Menendez (N.J.) and Michael Bennet (Colo.) — and four Republicans, Sens. John McCain (Ariz.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Marco Rubio (Fla.) and Jeff Flake (Ariz.).

Bmore on January 28, 2013 at 11:55 PM

I no longer trust Rubio, McCain Mini Me, at all, zip, zero, nada. Rubio was big on the Arab Spring and probably still is. He, along with his new dad John McCain, and his new mom Lindsey Graham, pushed at Obama to get even more involved in Libya, so Benghazi is blood on his hands too. Rubio, like McCain [who incidentally, for anyone who somehow hasn't yet noticed, calls everything he advocates, bipartisan], seems absolutely incapable of learning anything – ever. That’s ‘assuming’ that he is the least bit sincere. Be it about Muslims, who will never be for liberty, or illegal Mexicans, who if made legal will overwhelmingly vote democrat to the point of obliterating what’s left of the Republican party and much of America. When I look at Rubio, now all I see is Juan McCain staring back at me and can almost hear, “My friends”coming from that little snot’s mouth. It has become very clear that Rubio is The Man Who Never Was. He’s just an actor, with, comparatively, an ego the size of a whale and an intellect the size of a plankter, and I think more and more people are starting to see through his act.

VorDaj on January 28, 2013 at 11:55 PM

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:39 PM

I have alot of relatives in New Brunswick, where my great grandfather is from. I’ve only met two, and they’re priests. I think I could stand the cold because God knows I can’t stand the thought of paying for 30 million illegals. And I don’t want to learn Spanish, which will be a necessity at some point.

TxAnn56 on January 28, 2013 at 11:46 PM

TxAnn56:

Yup,I hear ya,and your right,that will be the next step,
Bi-lingual crap!:)

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:56 PM

So? who really cares if a Penguin or a Polar Bear wears a top? I mean, seriously who else would go to a Canadian beach?

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Coming from the person who lives where you need a wet suit to go swimming on your beaches. ;-)

AZfederalist on January 28, 2013 at 11:54 PM

My point exactly… And I live in Insane Diego California… ;)

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:56 PM

All of the sudden Frum wants to stand tough?

Cindy Munford on January 28, 2013 at 11:57 PM

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Carry on y’all’s chit-chatting. ;-)
No tunes ? Hey !
jus sayin’.

pambi on January 28, 2013 at 11:54 PM


Hey Joe…

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:58 PM

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:52 PM

…that’s what I’m asking?…how long before I get a reponse…I used that several times when you “took a vacation”…but my answer showed up!

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:58 PM

Dude,Hot Air Command and Control is Automated!
(sarc)

tips@hotair.com

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:52 PM

No it’s not, that’s Allahpundit’s cat’s regular gig… ;p

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:54 PM

SWalker:Lol,I have 3 cats,they can get busy,harassing our Lab!:)

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:58 PM

So their digging Teddy up as a model? Good Lord!

Cindy Munford on January 28, 2013 at 11:58 PM

All of the sudden Frum wants to stand tough?

Cindy Munford on January 28, 2013 at 11:57 PM

Speaking of Canada, I’d love to see that midget deported.

bw222 on January 29, 2013 at 12:00 AM

Simple question. You folks here are very familiar with this group of eight. Do you trust them on this. On anything for that matter?

The eight senators who signed on to the framework included four Democrats — Sens. Charles Schumer (N.Y.), Dick Durbin (Ill.), Robert Menendez (N.J.) and Michael Bennet (Colo.) — and four Republicans, Sens. John McCain (Ariz.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Marco Rubio (Fla.) and Jeff Flake (Ariz.).

Bmore on January 28, 2013 at 11:55 PM

…Nuck Fo!

KOOLAID2 on January 29, 2013 at 12:00 AM

All of the sudden Frum wants to stand tough?

Cindy Munford on January 28, 2013 at 11:57 PM

Speaking of Canada, I’d love to see that midget deported.

bw222 on January 29, 2013 at 12:00 AM

He and Piers can start their own country somewhere.

INC on January 29, 2013 at 12:01 AM

Bmore on January 28, 2013 at 11:55 PM

Flake? Really? Man! We just elected that joker to the senate. Now, he is better than his opponent, Carmona, but this is really disappointing.

AZfederalist on January 29, 2013 at 12:01 AM

Rubio is conducting this train wreck.

Bmore on January 28, 2013 at 11:48 PM

Rubio would make a good villain for the next Batman movie. He could play a composite of the Joker and Two-Face.

VorDaj on January 29, 2013 at 12:01 AM

From the headlines:

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2013/01/28/obama-to-oppose-enforcement-provisions-in-senate-bill/

So is Obama doing this because he’s so arrogant he thinks he’ll get what he wants? Or because he wants to blame Republicans? Both? Something else?

INC on January 29, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on January 29, 2013 at 12:03 AM

All along the watchtower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AuxJH2Mj30

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:04 AM

All Along the Watchtower

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Read them all Allah. This deal stinks to the heavens. We’re getting screwed yet again. As usual we won’t do a damn thing about it. Epic fail. The only two I have any trust with are Sessions and Cruz to a lesser extent. The rest are the problem. Not just part of the problem but the problem. Snookered again by a bunch of over authoritied ass hats.

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 12:04 AM

can_con on January 28, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Thanks for that link. Gov Kasich is discussing this. He needs to forget about setting that exchange up.

I plan on sending him that info.

Is the link not working?

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Good evening Dire!

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:04 AM

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:52 PM

…that’s what I’m asking?…how long before I get a reponse…I used that several times when you “took a vacation”…but my answer showed up!

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:58 PM

KOOLAID2:

I honestly don`t know,and since it was a busy news day,
I fired off over 36 e-mails today,and since I joined,over 3,000!
and,I`ve got a couple of responses!

It takes alot of time,to whip up the threads and Linkys for the
news stories,so,I`m guessing they`re pressed for time:)

canopfor on January 29, 2013 at 12:04 AM

So? who really cares if a Penguin or a Polar Bear wears a top? I mean, seriously who else would go to a Canadian beach?

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Um.

All right. At this point, I’d go.

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:04 AM

A Dire Good Evening to you, Mr. Straits. :-)

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 12:05 AM

All along the watchtower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AuxJH2Mj30

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:04 AM

All Along the Watchtower

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:04 AM

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH…. Synchronicity… ;)

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:05 AM

Hey, Dire!

INC on January 29, 2013 at 12:05 AM

Bmore on January 28, 2013 at 11:55 PM

It they attach the title Gang of 8 to them, run. Allah had an update on his earlier thread suggesting that Rubio might be just getting out in front on this to get brownie points but will vote no when it gets water down. That’s pretty cynical but it would be good politics, and unfortunately our side is in need of someone with good political instincts. All we can do is watch…..and contact our representatives about our concerns.

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:06 AM

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:04 AM

SNAP!! Lol…

Great minds think alike ;-)

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:06 AM

All of the sudden Frum wants to stand tough?

Cindy Munford on January 28, 2013 at 11:57 PM

It’s the only completely unoccupied position for an establishment Republican.

VorDaj on January 29, 2013 at 12:06 AM

SW that’s twice tonight…

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:06 AM

SW that’s twice tonight…

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:06 AM

SparkPlug must be playing with his corolatormabobeerthingiie again… ;)

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:09 AM

I’m calling it a night. Day One of the Great Amnesty Battle of 2013 has worn me out. But I live to fight another day. Tomorrow, it’s off to Cruz’s Houston office with a couple of other activists. The hierarchy of outrage is 1) email 2) phone call 3) in person visit.

Please keep call your senators and representative, even if they’re Ds. Call them every day if you can. And let Rubio’s office know what you think of him.

TxAnn56 on January 29, 2013 at 12:09 AM

INC on January 29, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Did you see where he didn’t want “undocumented immigrants” to be in limbo? What is it with this man that he can’t call an illegal alien an illegal alien or terrorists, terrorists? And the ACLU is against E-Verify? Why don’t they take it to court then?

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:09 AM

Otay,I`m bugging out!

Yes,Canada is Bionking cold,on the brightside,
its so cold,we have less problems,er wait……..

catch y`all tommorrow————:)

canopfor on January 29, 2013 at 12:09 AM

Republican Rep. Lamar Smith pans Senate immigration proposal as ‘amnesty’ for illegal immigrants – @thehill

6 hours ago from thehill.com by editor
==========================================

“By granting amnesty, the Senate proposal actually compounds the problem by encouraging more illegal immigration.”

They’ve got that covered, Lamar. This is basically an open borders bill. There will be no illegal immigration because all immigration will be legal. Per Mark Krikorian:

From the fourth “pillar” of the plan, the one that would have greater long-term impact than the amnesty itself:

A humane and effective system needs to be created for these immigrant workers to enter the country and find employment without seeking the aid of human traffickers or drug cartels.

In other words, no one would have to immigrate illegally because every person in the world who wanted to come here would be able to do so.

The left is finally going to get the open borders policy they’ve been dreaming of for decades, and the right is going to do everything they can to help.

xblade on January 29, 2013 at 12:10 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX7MuhDS2ns

Room full of Mirrors

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Nite, canopfor.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 12:11 AM

Good evening Dire!

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:04 AM

OT/Hi Scrump. I wanted to ask you if you’d seen these guys. It might be for you; might not. I’ve trolled a few strange books from there, special ISBNs I couldn’t get out on the market, and I’ve sent away a few I don’t want or need. Anyway, I wanted to mention it when I saw your tag from yesterday or the other-day (all days blurred at the moment :).

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:11 AM

VorDaj on January 29, 2013 at 12:06 AM

I wish he would get as sick of us as we are of him and carry himself back to Canada.

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:11 AM

Good night Can!!

Sleep well, like a bear!!

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:11 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on January 29, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Dire Straits:

Crap,your coming on,and I`m going out…..

….Good Evening Dire…..Good Night Dire:)

canopfor on January 29, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Otay,I`m bugging out!

Yes,Canada is Bionking cold
canopfor on January 29, 2013 at 12:09 AM

Hmmmm, so are you suggesting…. Bionking is best done in the cold?

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:09 AM

Obama understands the power of words and chooses them to advance his worldview. As an example, he’s never going to call what happened at Ft. Hood terrorism.

As for the ACLU, it might be because they’re usually on the same side as the Left.

INC on January 29, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Why don’t we just see if Mexico wants to become the 51st state? Those folks do a better job with their borders.

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:13 AM

catch y`all tommorrow————:)

canopfor on January 29, 2013 at 12:09 AM

Night Canada! Watch for the spirits of ancestors you’ve shoved on ice flows onto the sea!

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:13 AM

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:11 AM

No I hadn’t and I thank you! :-)

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:13 AM

canopfor on January 29, 2013 at 12:09 AM

Hmmmm, so are you suggesting…. Bionking is best done in the cold?

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:12 AM

SWalker:

Lol,may I suggest,a

Heated Igloo,with on/a Dead Polar Bear pelt
(snark)

Otay,night:)

canopfor on January 29, 2013 at 12:14 AM

Room full of Mirrors

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Mirrors.

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:14 AM

INC on January 29, 2013 at 12:12 AM

I understand why the ACLU is opposed, I’m just wondering why they don’t take the program to court. They take everything else to court. Shoot, for all I know they already did and lost.

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:14 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW5zPy73gWk

Castles made of Sand

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:14 AM

Bmore on January 28, 2013 at 11:55 PM

Where is that agreement that this group of Boomtown 8 made?

Thanks!

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 12:14 AM

canopfor on January 29, 2013 at 12:14 AM

Hope you are feeling better.

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:14 AM

I mean, seriously who else would go to a Canadian beach?

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Russians.

Solaratov on January 29, 2013 at 12:15 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugGjdzxXswY

Red House…

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:16 AM

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:04 AM

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 12:05 AM

INC on January 29, 2013 at 12:05 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on January 29, 2013 at 12:16 AM

Russians.

Solaratov on January 29, 2013 at 12:15 AM

BWAHAHAHA

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:17 AM

VorDaj on January 28, 2013 at 11:55 PM

That may be true about Rubio, but he’s getting under Jeb Bushs’ skin. Jeb is the next in line and seems like Rubio may disagree:-)

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 12:17 AM

Russians.

Solaratov on January 29, 2013 at 12:15 AM

BWAHAHAHA

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:17 AM

Yea, I laughed out loud over that one too… ;p

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:18 AM

canopfor on January 29, 2013 at 12:12 AM

I hate I missed you friend..:)

Dire Straits on January 29, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:14 AM

I don’t know if they did or not. Every once in a while they surprise me and land on the side of the good guys.

INC on January 29, 2013 at 12:18 AM

I loathe our president and his desire to keep everyone torn apart and at each other’s throats.

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:19 AM

Jeb is the next in line and seems like Rubio may disagree:-)

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 12:17 AM

Stay out of the Bush’s and you will avoid blood sucking oil tick infestations.

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:19 AM

…that’s what I’m asking?…how long before I get a reponse…I used that several times when you “took a vacation”…but my answer showed up!

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:58 PM

I’ve sent a couple in the past but never received any response. Don’t know why it’s there really.

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 12:19 AM

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Kool, when I have a serious question about an issue here at HA, I email Ed. I don’t do it often only as a last resort. Strange as it may seem to some here. He has always replied in a very timely and professional manner. And with good cheer. He stays very busy and is covered up by emails in his inbox I presume. So only go that route if it is important. Otherwise try to hit him early on a thread if its not.

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 12:20 AM

INC on January 29, 2013 at 12:18 AM

I know but not often enough.

Cindy Munford on January 29, 2013 at 12:20 AM

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:14 AM

:-)

Take a walk on the wild side…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KaWSOlASWc

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:21 AM

Where is that agreement that this group of Boomtown 8 made?

Thanks!

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 12:14 AM

That’s a great label. One that needs to be used and often.

INC on January 29, 2013 at 12:21 AM

Bmore on January 28, 2013 at 11:55 PM

…Nuck Fo!

KOOLAID2 on January 29, 2013 at 12:00 AM

I wouldn’t trust that group for anything but a knife in the back.

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 12:21 AM

Take a walk on the wild side…

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:21 AM

I Love the Night

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:23 AM

Flake? Really? Man! We just elected that joker to the senate. Now, he is better than his opponent, Carmona, but this is really disappointing.

AZfederalist on January 29, 2013 at 12:01 AM

I remember something about Flake and it had to do with Obamacare. Can’t recall at the moment, but he must have voted the wrong way; otherwise I wouldn’t think that.

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 12:23 AM

Where is that agreement that this group of Boomtown 8 made?

Thanks!

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 12:14 AM

I think for now the only place it resides is in they’re collective heads. It was sited in I think the sixth or seventh article up above. You have to pop open the links to see the full articles, which as much as I hate doing have always done.

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 12:26 AM

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:23 AM

Great band great song!!

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:27 AM

Don’t Fear the Reaper

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:28 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnGoIF5N_-Y

Sunday Morning…

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:29 AM

I karaoke that song!! My Fav to sing… I am notthat good tho!

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:30 AM

Huh. Clothes really don’t wash themselves. Mom was right.

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:31 AM

Lol, Axe

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 12:32 AM

karaoke Don’t fear the reaper…

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:33 AM

I karaoke that song!! My Fav to sing… I am notthat good tho!

Scrumpy on January 29, 2013 at 12:30 AM

Once upon a time I used to think I could sing… But then again I used to think a lot of stupid thing… ;)

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:33 AM

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 12:17 AM

Stay out of the Bush’s and you will avoid blood sucking oil tick infestations.

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:19 AM

LOL, true enough. But how do you keep this Bush out of the W.H.?

I think Romney is in on this also:-) He’s meeting with his “friends” in D.C.

bluefox on January 29, 2013 at 12:33 AM

Huh. Clothes really don’t wash themselves. Mom was right.

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:31 AM

Yup… that’s why I used to do all my laundry at K-Mart… ;p

SWalker on January 29, 2013 at 12:34 AM

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