Quotes of the day

posted at 10:19 pm on January 28, 2013 by Allahpundit

A marginalized group emerged from the shadows today to assert that they indeed have a voice, and a future, in American society. We speak, of course, of members of Congress. After years of scurrying for political cover, a brave handful of senators held a daylight, weekday news conference in Washington to present — in writing — a surprisingly detailed outline for overhauling the nation’s immigration laws…

Trey Gowdy, a second-term Republican who is chairman of the House Judiciary Committee’s immigration subcommittee, is known as a hawk on illegal immigration. Yet he told a newspaper in his home state of South Carolina that he wants a system that reflects “the humanity that I think defines us as a people, and the respect for the rule of law that defines us as a republic.” If that’s the standard Congress maintains for immigration reform, millions will be on a path to citizenship, and the nation will be on the high road to success.

***

Advocates expect to lose at least five Democrats in the Senate, which means they will need upwards of a dozen Republicans to vote for the legislation. That’s where Rubio and other tea party favorites like Sen. Mike Lee of Utah will come into play. Rubio and Lee are newcomers to an old discussion among Republican veterans like McCain and Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. Newly elected Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona will be a key Republican player as well…

Boehner has to be careful. He only has so many chances to put incendiary legislation on the floor before his caucus stages an all-out revolt. To appease them, he will probably offer one or two high-profile House votes, where Democrats will protest like crazy, on enforcement-only immigration legislation. That gets the dealmakers to the next step, a conference committee where anything can happen. As Kennedy was fond of saying, “We’ll fix it in conference.”

***

“As I’ve stated before, elections, elections,” said McCain, who along with seven colleagues spoke out at a Monday afternoon Capitol Hill press conference about a set of bipartisan principles for reform they had released a day earlier.

“The Republican Party is losing the support of our Hispanic citizens, and we realize there are many issues in which we think we are in agreement with our Hispanic citizens, but this is a pre-eminent issue for those citizens,” said McCain, his party’s standard-bearer in the 2008 presidential election.

***

Why won’t this new reform be a repeat of the 1986 reform, when the amnesty provisions were implemented but the enforcement half was blocked by ACLU-style lawsuits and bureaucratic weakness? The result was a broken border and the approximately 11 million new unauthorized immigrants we’re talking about giving amnesty to today. (If it wouldn’t bother you if an Obama amnesty attracted millions of new unauthorized immigrants, then let’s be open about that.)…

Are we really that good at assimilating? Yes, American culture is powerful. But now there is an entrenched lobby for bilingual education, and identity politics curricula that teach young people they’re right to resist assimilation. Formal and informal race preferences reward Americans for maintaining separate ethnic identies. And then there’s Univision, which would go out of business if too many people spoke the common language.

Isn’t Mexico special? Other immigrants had to cross oceans and cut ties to get here–and many still do. But half of our new unauthorized immigrants come from a single country a day’s drive away–a nation with a not-implausible claim to much of our Southwestern territory. The “border” may mean something else to them than it does to us, or to other immigrants. Everywhere else in the world this is a recipe for turmoil. Why are we immune?

***

As the Hispanic electorate becomes less Cuban, more Mexican and Central American, it becomes less susceptible to GOP cultural themes. The claim that Hispanic voters are “natural Republicans” is based on nothing but wishful thinking, fortified by ignorance.

Economically struggling Hispanics need and want more government than the GOP will offer them, and the 11 million illegals soon to embark on their “path to citizenship” will need and want even more: Earned Income Tax Credits, Medicaid, Section 8 housing, food stamps, and so on. Even into the fourth generation after joining the American workforce, Mexican-Americans remain strikingly less likely to finish college than Anglo-Americans.

It’s not true for everyone, of course, but it’s true for enough to ensure that Democrats will win the larger share of the Hispanic vote for a long time to come.

***

By definition, creating a path to citizenship turns illegal aliens into potential voters, and any serious analysis of Hispanic opinion tells you that those new voters’ interests and beliefs will tend to align with the Democratic Party. No, not necessarily forever, but across the next few decades of American politics there is simply no plausible case that gratitude to Marco Rubio and Jeff Flake will convert a liberal-leaning voting bloc into a true swing constituency, let alone a Republican-tilting demographic. Which makes it very, very easy to imagine a future where immigration reform helps Republicans win a slightly higher percentage of the Hispanic vote, but costs them many more votes in absolute terms by accelerating the ongoing demographic shifts in the electorate. (And that’s without getting into the incentives that such a deal would create for future migration, or its disillusioning impact on the working class white voters the G.O.P. still can’t win without …)

Presumably these costs would be reduced if the reform’s path to citizenship were long and arduous enough, with more waiting and more hurdles than a straightforward amnesty. But then the immediate political benefits to Republicans become much more uncertain as well, since they would still be playing the “bad cop” role in a policy debate that would no doubt extend for many years after the initial bill were passed. (The ads write themselves: “Republican candidate X says that he supports immigration reform, but he’s voted again and again to keep hardworking immigrants in legal limbo, deny their children benefits, etc. …”)

***

[O]pen-borders advocacy groups are signaling that they will fight any enforcement measures that are enacted into law. One activist writes at the Huffington Post that any amnesty package should terminate a program that prosecutes border infiltrators (it’s a misdemeanor on the first offense, a felony afterward). You would think they’d be willing to support such a program after an amnesty and after the Senate outline’s provision for effectively unlimited immigration go into effect. But apparently they understand better than clueless Republican pols that an amnesty bill will serve as a magnet for more illegal immigration because the enforcement promises are fake, and they want to make sure that flow is not impeded.

Also, the ACLU has made clear that it will wage a legal jihad against the provision mandating the screening of all new hires with the E-Verify system. E-Verify is the main enforcement bait the open-borders crowd holds out to attract naïve conservatives to back amnesty (though the Senate outline was careful not to mention E-Verify specifically, because Schumer wants to replace it with something “better,” a process which wouldn’t be completed until years after all the current illegals are legalized — if ever). Preventing its full implementation is key to crippling future enforcement and ensuring that illegal immigration continues.

***

U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) issued the following statement regarding today’s bipartisan immigration reform proposal:

I appreciate the good work that senators in both parties have put into trying to fix our broken immigration system. There are some good elements in this proposal, especially increasing the resources and manpower to secure our border and also improving and streamlining legal immigration. However, I have deep concerns with the proposed path to citizenship. To allow those who came here illegally to be placed on such a path is both inconsistent with rule of law and profoundly unfair to the millions of legal immigrants who waited years, if not decades, to come to America legally.

***

Today, Senator Mike Lee made the following statement with regard to the Statement of Principles on immigration reform released by the Group of Eight:…

I remain greatly supportive of what the group aims to accomplish and will continue to work with my colleagues to solve many of the challenges this important issue presents. Although I am encouraged by the process and continue to support efforts to make real progress on immigration reform, I am not able to sign the Statement of Principles released today.

These guidelines contemplate a policy that will grant special benefits to illegal immigrants based on their unlawful presence in the country. Reforms to our complex and dysfunctional immigration system should not in any way favor those who came here illegally over the millions of applicants who seek to come here lawfully.

***

A House conservative who has taken a leading role in the lower chamber’s discussions on immigration, Rep. Raul Labrador (R-Idaho), said the ideas released Monday were “good principles” that were similar to those that members of both parties in the House were discussing.

But he said the group’s proposal for a path to citizenship stuck out as a concern and would be “tough” to accept in the House.

“I think that’s going to be one of the sticking points between the House and the Senate,” Labrador said. “We have to be careful about rewarding people for illegal activity with citizenship.”…

Labrador said he and other conservatives are looking for signs that President Obama wants a “policy victory” on immigration and not simply a “political victory” that comes from blaming Republicans for a failure to pass legislation.

***

Which brings us back to Mr. Obama. The President will lay out his own reform principles Tuesday, but the question is whether he wants an achievement or a political issue. If he wants a genuine reform, the Senate framework shows how much Republicans have already moved his way. GOP leaders can read the 2012 exit polls, and thanks to the persuasion of Mr. Rubio, Jeb Bush and a few others, more conservatives are now more amenable to reform.

Yet neither Mr. Obama nor his White House have reached out to Mr. Rubio, and many Democrats want to use the immigration issue to drive turnout in election after election. Their goal is to have a legislative dance and then blame Republicans for killing reform sometime in 2014.

If that is Mr. Obama’s real goal, he’ll demand too much—by gutting the guest-worker program again or complicating it with too much bureaucracy, or by insisting on a quick and easy path to citizenship for illegals. Mr. Obama will have to decide if he wants a legacy of reform, or more partisanship.

***

One of the things to look for is whether Obama has the good sense to lead from behind and not claim this plan as his own crusade. That is the surest way to piss off Congress, especially congressional Republicans, just as it is children and bosses. Letting them come up with the plan and showing a willingness to sign off on it would probably be the best bet. If it’s seen as Obama’s plan, they’ll reflexively oppose it. If it’s Marco Rubio’s plan, even if it bears little difference from Obama’s, Republicans—who want Hispanics’ love even more than a tax cut—will embrace it…

Getting to the finish line on immigration won’t be easy despite the new receptivity. There are policy questions: Will the E-Verify system be widely demanded or not? What’s the route to green cards? There are political ones: Can the tea party back off its tough stand on immigration? Can labor and Hispanic groups accept tougher documentation standards? There’s a reason we haven’t had a big immigration bill in more than a generation. Knowing when to have a light touch will require the president to be less assertive than he was in his inaugural address.

***

“If we do succeed, and I think we will, it will be a testimonial to Ted Kennedy’s effort years ago that laid the groundwork for this agreement,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a member of the bipartisan group of senators that on Monday backed a set of principles for comprehensive immigration reform.

“You will find that this agreement has very little difference from that of the legislation that was led by Sen. Kennedy some years ago.”

***

***

“I think it’s important before we let the moment pass to acknowledge that the progress we’re seeing embodied in the priniciples put forward by this bipartisan group is happening for a reason: I think it’s happening because consensus is developing in the country, a bipartisan consensus, and it’s happening because the president has demonstrated significant leadership on this issue,” Carney said.

***

Via Greg Hengler.


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That picture on Drudge makes my stomach turn. YUCK

gophergirl on January 28, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

So many grievances, so little time.

Petition calls for a gun-free zone to replace president’s armed guards

A petition on the site making headlines today calls for the elimination of armed-guard protection for the president, vice-president and their families to be replaced by a gun-free zone around them. The petition argues that since policies of gun-free zones are used around schools to protect children, a gun-free zone “should be good enough for politicians.” The number of signatures has exceeded 25,000, but the White House now requires more than 100,000 for an official response

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Wait until the ‘rats trot out a few families of illegals complete with teary, big-eyed children, grandma with a walker, and pregnant mamacita protectively clutching her belly.

The GOP will be accused of wanting to ship all illegals off to death camps before deportment, the media will show images of Nazi trains unloading Jews at Auschwitz, and Bark will solemnly lay a wreath on the grave of Santa Anna.

Then every GOP’er will cave.

Bishop on January 28, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Bishop!!

KCB on January 28, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Nice boots. Hey, what size are those? Just curious.

Axe on January 28, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Democrats on The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965

“This bill that we will sign today is not a revolutionary bill. It does not affect the lives of millions. It will not reshape the structure of our daily lives or add importantly to either our wealth or our power..This bill says simply that from this day forth those wishing to immigrate to America shall be admitted on the basis of their skills and their close relationship to those already here. This is a simple test, and it is a fair test. Those who can contribute most to this country–to its growth, to its strength, to its spirit–will be the first that are admitted to this land…The days of unlimited immigration are past. But those who do come will come because of what they are, and not because of the land from which they sprung.”

- President Lyndon B Johnson, signing into law the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 at the base of the Statue of Liberty, Liberty Island, 3 October 1965.

“First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same … Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upsetContrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia … In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think…

The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs.”

- Senator Edward Kennedy (D-MA), U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., 10 February 1965. pp. 1-3

“I would say for the Asia-Pacific Triangle it [immigration] would be approximately 5,000, Mr. Chairman, after which immigration from that source would virtually disappear; 5,000 immigrants would come the first year, but we do not expect that there would be any great influx after that.”

- Attorney General Robert Kennedy, testifying on immigration reform, U.S. Congress, House, 1964 hearings, p. 418

“This bill is not designed to increase or accelerate the numbers of newcomers permitted to come to America. Indeed, this measure provides for an increase of only a small fraction in permissible immigration.”

- Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach, U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., 10 February 1965, p.8

“The present estimate, based upon the best information we can get, is that there might be, say, 8,000 immigrants from India in the next five years … I don’t think we have a particular picture of a world situation where everybody is just straining to move to the United States … There is not a general move toward the United States.”

- Secretary of State Dean Rusk – U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington D.C., 10 February 1965, p.65

Resist We Much on January 28, 2013 at 11:01 PM

““If we do succeed, and I think we will, it will be a testimonial to Ted Kennedy’s effort years ago that laid the groundwork for this agreement,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), “

That is all you need to hear.

This is the last nail folks…

… The fact that I am hearing this all over the airwaves on different channels that:

“Things have changed…! More people want this…! Polls show…!”

… tells me this is a fabricated campaign by the Left.

Best you contact your representatives…

… Last chance!

Seven Percent Solution on January 28, 2013 at 11:02 PM

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canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:03 PM

That’s it. I’m moving to Alaska. It’ll be the easiest to defend.

Cleombrotus on January 28, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

So many grievances, so little time.

Petition calls for a gun-free zone to replace president’s armed guards

A petition on the site making headlines today calls for the elimination of armed-guard protection for the president, vice-president and their families to be replaced by a gun-free zone around them. The petition argues that since policies of gun-free zones are used around schools to protect children, a gun-free zone “should be good enough for politicians.” The number of signatures has exceeded 25,000, but the White House now requires more than 100,000 for an official response

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Citizens used to walk into the White House even after the constitution was ratified, correct? Since the framers couldn’t predict black rifles and therefore black rifles should be banned, maybe all elected members of government should not be protected by anything more than sabres and muskets.

tom daschle concerned on January 28, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Resist We Much on January 28, 2013 at 11:01 PM

They’ve been lying for a long time.

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Best you contact your representatives…

… Last chance!

Seven Percent Solution on January 28, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Seven Percent Solution:

First,good to see ya SPS,and yes,it sounds like a DONE DEAL!:)

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:04 PM

… Last chance!

Seven Percent Solution on January 28, 2013 at 11:02 PM

I’m sorry. :/ I really am.

Axe on January 28, 2013 at 11:05 PM

U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) issued the following statement regarding today’s bipartisan immigration reform proposal:

I appreciate the good work that senators in both parties have put into trying to fix our broken immigration system. There are some good elements in this proposal, especially increasing the resources and manpower to secure our border and also improving and streamlining legal immigration. However, I have deep concerns with the proposed path to citizenship. To allow those who came here illegally to be placed on such a path is both inconsistent with rule of law and profoundly unfair to the millions of legal immigrants who waited years, if not decades, to come to America legally.

Well said Sen. Cruz

workingclass artist on January 28, 2013 at 11:05 PM

MarshFox on January 28, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Can’t win for nothing…

I applaud those who have the ability to do as you expressed!

Alone or together, we each have to do what’s best for ourselves in the end.

Only the ‘h8ers’ the envious remain…

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Citizens used to walk into the White House even after the constitution was ratified, correct? Since the framers couldn’t predict black rifles and therefore black rifles should be banned, maybe all elected members of government should not be protected by anything more than sabres and muskets.

tom daschle concerned on January 28, 2013 at 11:04 PM

You’re right. I think that continued for a long time. I’m trying to think into the 20th century.

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Fallon on January 28, 2013 at 10:51 PM

I have been told that real men have heroes, well he is certainly one of mine, he is in fact my favorite president and I am not ashamed to say that, he was quite possibly the smartest man to ever sit in the Whitehouse, and that quote is one that I know well, so many of his quotes have guided me over the years, especially since the war started again.

MarshFox on January 28, 2013 at 11:05 PM

I agree. An oligarchy that lives at the expense of the rest of the country as they exempt themselves from the onerous parts of bills they inflict on the rest of us.

INC on January 28, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Better known as the Boomtown Congress. They are now putting on their performance for the American people and future voters for the Democratic Boomtown members.

Total corruption. We just don’t have the number of decent members in both
Houses at the time to make a difference.

bluefox on January 28, 2013 at 11:06 PM

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canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:06 PM

“If we do succeed, and I think we will, it will be a testimonial to Ted Kennedy’s effort years ago that laid the groundwork for this agreement,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.),

Great, it’s been a nice few days of Pubs slobbering at the feet of every ‘rat in sight.

What’s next, Boehner reminds us that Robert Byrd liked Mexican food and so we need to do this in his memory?

Bishop on January 28, 2013 at 11:07 PM

ot/bb in an hour. pointless, narcissistic fyi.

Axe on January 28, 2013 at 11:07 PM

First,good to see ya SPS,and yes,it sounds like a DONE DEAL!:)

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Don’t ever assume something is a done deal.

That is part of the propaganda war they wage. They want people to assume it’s a done deal so they become demoralized and give up.

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Seven Percent Solution on January 28, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Exactly my thought, best expressed by you!!

I honed in on that as soon as I read it…

It is the last chance…

Well said!

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Wait until the ‘rats trot out a few families of illegals complete with teary, big-eyed children, grandma with a walker, and pregnant mamacita protectively clutching her belly.

Bishop on January 28, 2013 at 11:01 PM

You can bet you won’t see any stories like this:
Grief Grips Neighborhood

or this

Police Officer Murdered by Illegal Alien

TxAnn56 on January 28, 2013 at 11:08 PM

bluefox on January 28, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Yeah. I thought the graphic for Hannity’s Boomtown was good. A bloated Capitol building that shook and swelled, and then spewed money.

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Thanks Scrumpy doodles.

Anybody tries to harm you they are going to get a fire hose jammed up their #%^%#.then I will tase them after they get pepper sprayed.

I might even tobasco spray them too,

SparkPlug on January 28, 2013 at 11:09 PM

“If we do succeed, and I think we will, it will be a testimonial to Ted Kennedy’s effort years ago that laid the groundwork for this agreement,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.),

Great, it’s been a nice few days of Pubs slobbering at the feet of every ‘rat in sight.

What’s next, Boehner reminds us that Robert Byrd liked Mexican food and so we need to do this in his memory?

Bishop on January 28, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Second look at asking the Vietnamese to recapture McCain…

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:10 PM

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:08 PM

I doubt anyone will give up until it is signed sealed and delivered.

We can but try to stop it… that’s all we have!

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:10 PM

That’s it. I’m moving to Alaska. It’ll be the easiest to defend.

Cleombrotus on January 28, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Actually Wisconsin is the easiest to defend because no one wants to actually step foot in that cesspool of rancidness.

Bishop on January 28, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Second look at asking the Vietnamese to recapture McCain…

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Now that is provocative :)

tom daschle concerned on January 28, 2013 at 11:11 PM

@Spark lol

tommy71 on January 28, 2013 at 11:11 PM

SparkPlug on January 28, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Holy Hot Sauce Sparky!

Splat!

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:12 PM

That is part of the propaganda war they wage. They want people to assume it’s a done deal so they become demoralized and give up.

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:08 PM

According to someone on twitter, who supplied the link to the White House, those 23 EO’s that Chairman Obama supposedly signed on gun control were never really signed.

JPeterman on January 28, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Wait until the ‘rats trot out a few families of illegals complete with teary, big-eyed children, grandma with a walker, and pregnant mamacita protectively clutching her belly.

The GOP will be accused of wanting to ship all illegals off to death camps before deportment, the media will show images of Nazi trains unloading Jews at Auschwitz, and Bark will solemnly lay a wreath on the grave of Santa Anna.

Then every GOP’er will cave.

Bishop on January 28, 2013 at 11:01 PM

The solution for the illegal immigrant is not the rhetoric of deporting them all… It is not a political winner… However if Republicans want to legalize them then can suggest a law to legalize them with NO PATH TO CITIZENSHIP… None what so ever… not even path to Green Card… Just issue them temporary working visas that can renewed every 5 years with a fee and under the condition that they cannot break any law and cannot have any benefits…

mnjg on January 28, 2013 at 11:13 PM

The solution for the illegal immigrant is not the rhetoric of deporting them all… It is not a political winner… However if Republicans want to legalize them then can suggest a law to legalize them with NO PATH TO CITIZENSHIP… None what so ever… not even path to Green Card… Just issue them temporary working visas that can renewed every 5 years with a fee and under the condition that they cannot break any law and cannot have any benefits…

mnjg on January 28, 2013 at 11:13 PM

You know that’s not a half bad idea.

gophergirl on January 28, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Axe on January 28, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Honestly Axe, it hit the immigration topic and mine, laziness, pure and simple. We don’t have an immigration problem, we have a welfare problem, to both those born here and those illegally here, until you fix that and somehow manage to make Mexico and the other Latin American countries prosperous, we will continue down this path, but the thing is, in the end it will slow on its own, the system will crash, and natural selection of a sort will start. God gave us a brain to exercise free will, he gave us history as a lesson on how to exercise it, problem is, we never learn!

MarshFox on January 28, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:10 PM

It happened last time.

According to someone on twitter, who supplied the link to the White House, those 23 EO’s that Chairman Obama supposedly signed on gun control were never really signed.

JPeterman on January 28, 2013 at 11:12 PM

I also saw that somewhere—I don’t remember where.

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:14 PM

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:08 PM

I doubt anyone will give up until it is signed sealed and delivered.

We can but try to stop it… that’s all we have!

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:10 PM

I seriously doubt our elected self-anointed Aristocrats are going to listen to or do anything we the people want them to until we as a people go to Mordor on the Potomac with flaming torches and pitchforks and turn a couple dozen of them into Streetlight decorations.

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Political suicide….what the gop is doing with this AMNESTY!!!!

When you have Senator CHUCK SCHUMER applauding your efforts……you’re not being praised for anything other than your willingness to destroy your own party.

TEXAS WILL FALL and will be blue by 2020 if not by 2016. Look at the history of who Hispanics vote for you idiot republicans!!!!!!

ONE PARTY RULE has arrived in America.

PappyD61 on January 28, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Let me toss this out here.

Is it too late to organize a march?

Yeah we can inundate with calls and such…

But maybe seeing hundreds of thousands gathered…

Just an idea

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Axe on January 28, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Yeah, I gotta quit doing that…

KCB on January 28, 2013 at 11:15 PM

SW same wavelength!! Lol…

Then we should do so!

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Who here has ever thought that Ted Kennedy or Chuck Schumer had nothing but the country’s best interests at heart?

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:16 PM

@MarshFox You’re absolutely right.

tommy71 on January 28, 2013 at 11:16 PM

“Asians represent six-tenths of 1 percent of the population of the United States … with respect to Japan, we estimate that there will be a total for the first 5 years of some 5,391 … the people from that part of the world will never reach 1 percent of the population .. .Our cultural pattern will never be changed as far as America is concerned.”

Senator Hiram Fong (R-HI), U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., 10 February 1965, pp.71, 119

“I am aware that this bill is more concerned with the equality of immigrants than with their numbers. It is obvious in any event that the great days of immigration have long since run their course. World population trends have changed, and changing economic and social conditions at home and abroad dictate a changing migratory pattern.”

- Rep. Sidney Yates (D-IL), Congressional Record, 25 August 1965, p. 21793

“Contrary to the opinions of some of the misinformed, this legislation does not open the floodgates.”

- Senator Claiborne Pell (D-RI), Congressional Record, 20 September 1965, p. 24480

Even Senator Strom Thurmond (R-SC), who voted against the bill out of concern for overpopulation, didn’t think the new preference system would mean much of a change:

“The preferences which would be established by this proposal are based, I believe, on sound reasoning and meritorious considerations, not entirely dissimilar in effect from those which underlie the national origins quotas of existing law.”

– Senator Strom Thurmond (R-SC), Congressional Record, 17 September 1965, p. 24237

Sort of like when Senator Hubert Humphrey said “I’ll eat my hat if this leads to racial quotas” when the Senate was debating Affirmative Action.

Resist We Much on January 28, 2013 at 11:16 PM

RINO Season!
Marxist Season!
RINO Season!
Marxist Season!
RINO Season!
Marxist Season!
RINO Season!
Marxist Season!

….aaaaaw shaddup

rayra on January 28, 2013 at 11:16 PM

I’ve never seen a party so eager to surrender and destroy any chance of ever being relevant again. This is nothing short of complete self destruction.

AZfederalist on January 28, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Who here has ever thought that Ted Kennedy or Chuck Schumer had nothing but the country’s best interests at heart?

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:16 PM

I’m more of a Dick Durbin disciple myself.

/ <-unnecessary

tom daschle concerned on January 28, 2013 at 11:17 PM

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:14 PM

My friend you and I both know what really needs to happen, it isn’t a matter of if, just when!

MarshFox on January 28, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Resist We Much on January 28, 2013 at 11:16 PM

History repeats itself…

Pols never learn and never fricking listen!

It’s a crying shame!

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:19 PM

RINO Season!
Marxist Season!
RINO Season!
Marxist Season!
RINO Season!
Marxist Season!
RINO Season!
Marxist Season!

….aaaaaw shaddup

rayra on January 28, 2013 at 11:16 PM

RINO Marxist season… Problem solved…

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:19 PM

bluefox on January 28, 2013

…I came home from work tonight about 10 or so… and went to the ignored Palin thread… to see if steebo got his wish!….LOL!…have never seen an Archived thread with action!…that has to be historic!

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:19 PM

A few of the congressmen, who opposed The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, did see that the new system, even with tight controls to protect the labour force, would result in dramatic changes:

“We estimate that if the President gets his way, and the current immigration laws are repealed, the number of immigrants next year will increase threefold and in subsequent years will increase even more … shall we, instead, look at this situation realistically and begin solving our own unemployment problems before we start tackling the world’s?”

- Congressman William Miller (R-NY), Republican Vice Presidential candidate, The New York Times, 8 September 1964, p. 14

[Note: Although immigration did increase as dramatically as Rep. Miller predicted, it took longer than he thought. By 1968 — when the law fully took effect — the 1965 level of 290,697 had increased to 454,448, "only" a 56 percent increase.]

“What I object to is imposing no limitation insofar as areas of the earth are concerned, but saying that we are throwing the doors open and equally inviting people from the Orient, from the islands of the Pacific, from the subcontinent of Asia, from the Near East, from all of Africa, all of Europe, and all of the Western Hemisphere on exactly the same basis. I am inviting attention to the fact that this is a complete and radical departure from what has always heretofore been regarded as sound principles of immigration.”

- Sen. Spessard Holland (D-FL), Congressional Record, 22 September 1965, p. 24779

Among those who more accurately foresaw the future effects of the change in immigration law was a certain Myra C. Hacker, Vice President of the New Jersey Coalition, who testified at a Senate immigration subcommittee hearing:

“In light of our 5 percent unemployment rate, our worries over the so called population explosion, and our menacingly mounting welfare costs, are we prepared to embrace so great a horde of the world’s unfortunates? At the very least, the hidden mathematics of the bill should be made clear to the public so that they may tell their Congressmen how they feel about providing jobs, schools, homes, security against want, citizen education, and a brotherly welcome … for an indeterminately enormous number of aliens from underprivileged lands….We should remember that people accustomed to such marginal existence in their own land will tend to live fully here, to hoard our bounteous minimum wages and our humanitarian welfare handouts … lower our wage and living standards, disrupt our cultural patterns …Whatever may be our benevolent intent toward many people, [the bill] fails to give due consideration to the economic needs, the cultural traditions, and the public sentiment of the citizens of the United States.”

– Myra C. Hacker, Vice President of the New Jersey Coalition, U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., 10 February 1965, pp. 681-687

Resist We Much on January 28, 2013 at 11:19 PM

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Don’t ever assume something is a done deal.

That is part of the propaganda war they wage. They want people to assume it’s a done deal so they become demoralized and give up.

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:08 PM

INC:True dat,

Democrat Demoralizers!:)

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:20 PM

“You will find that this agreement has very little difference from that of the legislation that was led by Sen. Kennedy some years ago.”

Now, that’s convincing.

besser tot als rot on January 28, 2013 at 11:21 PM

OT but should be of interest to you and Obamacare Exchanges Loophole

“Contrary to expectations, more than 30 states have refused to create exchanges or are dragging their heels. And with good reason: State-created exchanges bring higher taxes.

The very tax credits that are contingent on states implementing an exchange are also an essential part of the trigger mechanisms for the law’s penalties on employers and individuals who don’t purchase health insurance. Since those tax credits are only available through state-created exchanges, states can exempt their employers from penalties of up to $2,000 per worker simply by not creating exchanges.”

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/dislodging-obamacare

can_con on January 28, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Resist We Much on January 28, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Oh wow!

History IS repeating!

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Maybe Gault’s Gulch isn’t here on earth, maybe it is on Mars or some distant planet, and RWM, I am being serious about that. Where only the rugged survive.

MarshFox on January 28, 2013 at 11:22 PM

I’ve never seen a party so eager to surrender and destroy any chance of ever being relevant again. This is nothing short of complete self destruction.

AZfederalist on January 28, 2013 at 11:16 PM

It’s mass suicide. Jim Jones would be proud/

JPeterman on January 28, 2013 at 11:23 PM

They’ve been lying for a long time.

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Yep. Like Labour, they intentionally set out to change the demographics of the country. As I wrote last night, Labour has belatedly realised that they have lost much of their old base as a result:

A Fair Warning To Those Promoting Open Borders, Amnesty, & Free Immigration

Resist We Much on January 28, 2013 at 11:23 PM

can_con on January 28, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Thank you for the linky!!

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:23 PM

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:14 PM

My friend you and I both know what really needs to happen, it isn’t a matter of if, just when!

MarshFox on January 28, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Indeed, comes a day when the the drunken bastage beats his wife one time to many and as he is fumbling for his pants, she pulls out the brand new shiny .44 magnum she just bought and changes his attitude forever.

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:25 PM

Thank you for the linky!!

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Anytime. Sounds promising too!

can_con on January 28, 2013 at 11:25 PM

Resist We Much on January 28, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Great quotes. Ted Kennedy has done more to destroy this country than any other politician I can think of, well, besides Obama. Michelle Bachmann was the only one in the debates that suggested going back to pre-1965 levels and no one took her seriously. That 1965 bill was the beginning of the end of this country. And toothpaste is never going back in the tube.

TxAnn56 on January 28, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Dear Senator Frist:

There is a huge amount of propaganda and myths circulating about illegal aliens, particularly illegal Mexican, Salvadorian, Guatemalan and Honduran aliens.

1. Illegal aliens generally do NOT want U.S. citizenship. Americans are very vain thinking that everybody in the world wants to be a U.S. citizen. Mexicans, and other nationalities want to remain citizens of their home countries while obtaining the benefits offered by the Unit ed States such as employment, medical care, in-state tuition, government subsidized housing and free education for their offspring. Their main attraction is employment and their loyalty usually remains at home. They want benefits earned and subsidized by middle class Americans. What illegal aliens want are benefits of American residence without paying the price.

2. There are no jobs that Americans won’t do. Illegal aliens are doing jobs that Americans can’t take and still support their families. Illegal aliens take low wage jobs, live dozens in a single residence home, share expenses and send money to their home country. There are no jobs that Americans won’t do for a decent wage.

3. Every person who illegally entered this nation left a home. They are NOT homeless and they are NOT Americans. Some left jobs in their home countries. They come to send money to their real home as evidenced by the more than 20 billion dollars sent out of the country each year by illegal aliens. These illegal aliens knowingly and willfully entered this nation in violation of the law and therefore assumed the risk of detection and deportation. Those who brought their alien children assumed the responsibility and risk on behalf of their children.

4. Illegal aliens are NOT critical to the economy. Illegal aliens constitute less than 5% of the workforce. However, they reduce wages and benefits for lawful U.S. residents.

5. This is NOT an immigrant nation. There are 280 million native born Americans. While it is true that this nation was settled and founded by immigrants (legal immigrants), it is also true that there is not a nation on this planet that was not settled by immigrants at one time or another.

6. The United States is welcoming to legal immigrants. Illegal aliens are not immigrants by definition. The U.S. accepts more lawful immigrants every year than the rest of the world combined.

7. There is no such thing as the “Hispanic vote”. Hispanics are white, brown, black and every shade in between. Hispanics are Republicans, Democrats, Anarchists, Communists, Marxists and Independents. The so-called “Hispanic vote” is a myth. Pandering to illegal aliens to get the Hispanic vote is a dead end.

8. Mexico is NOT a friend of the United States. Since 1848 Mexicans have resented the United States. During World War I Mexico allowed German Spies to operate freely in Mexico to spy on the U.S. During World War II Mexico allowed the Axis powers to spy on the U.S. from Mexico. During the Cold War Mexico allowed spies hostile to the U.S. to operate freely. The attack on the Twin Towers in 2001 was cheered and applauded all across Mexico. Today Mexican school children are taught that the U.S. stole California, Arizona, new Mexico and Texas. If you don’t believe it, check out some Mexican textbooks written for their schoolchildren.

9. Although some illegal aliens enter this country for a better life, there are 6 billion people on this planet. At least 1 billion of those live on less than one dollar a day. If wanting a better life is a valid excuse to break the law and sneak into America, then let’s allow those one billion to come to America and we’ll turn the USA into a Third World nation overnight. Besides, there are 280 million native born Americans who want a better life. I’ll bet Bill Gates and Donald Trump want a better life. When will the USA lifeboat be full? Since when is wanting a better life a good reason to trash another nation?

10. There is a labor shortage in this country. This is a lie. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of American housewives, senior citizens, students, unemployed and underemployed who would gladly take jobs at a decent wage.

11. It is racist to want secure borders. What is racist about wanting secure borders and a secure America? What is racist about not wanting people to sneak into America and steal benefits we have set aside for legal aliens, senior citizens, children and other legal residents? What is it about race that entitles people to violate our laws, steal identities, and take the American Dream without paying the price?

For about four decades American politicians have refused to secure our borders and look after the welfare of middle class Americans. These politicians have been of both parties. A huge debt to American society has resulted. This debt will be satisfied and the interest will be high. There has already been riots in the streets by illegal aliens and their supporters. There will be more. You, as a politician, have a choice to offend the illegal aliens who have stolen into this country and demanded the rights afforded to U.S. citizens or to offend those of us who are stakeholders in this country. The interest will be steep either way. There will be civil unrest. There will be a reckoning. Do you have the courage to do what is right for America? Or, will you bow to the wants and needs of those who don’t even have the right to remain here?

There will be a reckoning. It will come in November of this year, again in 2008 and yet again in 2010.

We will not allow America to be stolen by third world agitators and thieves.

David J. Stoddard

U.S. Border Patrol (RET)

Hereford, Arizona

Speakup on January 28, 2013 at 11:27 PM

For some reason your linky can_con froze up my laptop and then completely kicked me off the ‘net!

Doing a scan right now…

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:27 PM

The Filipinos Weigh in……

Filipinos in U.S. Release Immigration Rights Platform to Hold President Obama Accountable to True Comprehensive Immigration Reform
By
AsianWeek Staff
– January 23, 2013
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“This platform articulates the most urgent needs of Filipino immigrants in the U.S. and defines what must be included in Obama’s comprehensive immigration reform. Anything less is unacceptable,” said Terrence Valen, NAFCON President.

The 8-point platform includes:

Passage of legislation and/or policy to reunite families immediately
Provide legal status to victims of Human Trafficking and prosecute the perpetrators
Stop deportation of and give legal and permanent status to CNMI migrant workers
Stop deportations and scrap both E-Verify and Secure Communities
Pass Dream Act with a community service component
U.S. Ratification of ILO Convention concerning Decent Work for Domestic Workers
Pass Caring for the Aging, Respecting and Educating our direct care workforce (CARE ACT)
Dignified and just pathway for undocumented immigrants
(More…)
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http://www.asianweek.com/2013/01/23/filipinos-in-u-s-release-immigration-rights-platform-to-hold-president-obama-accountable-to-true-comprehensive-immigration-reform/

Via:
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https://twitter.com/immigrationDir

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:29 PM

QUESTION?
Can one of you please tell me what the general response time is from the Hot Air tip line…I filled out their form with my email address… with my question…and it’s been a good 12 hours.
The only time I have used it (tip line) before… was when they banned a couple of veterans here…and I didn’t expect a response…because the people soon showed up here again…Thanks!

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:30 PM

…but still, a niggle persists.

tommy71 on January 28, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Racist!

Oh…wait…

Solaratov on January 28, 2013 at 11:30 PM

I was in a meeting and someone made a crack about Texas being “another country”. I had to bite my tongue not to make a smarta$$ed comment.

gophergirl on January 28, 2013 at 10:59 PM

You should’ve shot ‘em, just for grins, but they were right. Unfortunately, our beloved founders decided to join the United States and, in their defense, did so at a time when the US Constitution meant something. Then again, they were warned by many of us, some my own ancestors, not to do so. But it is what it is, trapped now in an unholy alliance with an evil far worse than was Santa Anna.

TXUS on January 28, 2013 at 11:31 PM

QUESTION?
Can one of you please tell me what the general response time is from the Hot Air tip line…I filled out their form with my email address… with my question…and it’s been a good 12 hours.
The only time I have used it (tip line) before… was when they banned a couple of veterans here…and I didn’t expect a response…because the people soon showed up here again…Thanks!

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:30 PM

My personal experience is… HA never acknowledges tips.

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:32 PM

The economy is tanking and our idiot congress critters want to grant amnesty to 30 million illegal immigrants.

Talk about throwing fuel on the fire.

When this happens there will NEVER be a recovery from this foolishness. Turn out the lights ……….. You know the rest.

fogw on January 28, 2013 at 11:32 PM

@Solaratov lol

tommy71 on January 28, 2013 at 11:32 PM

A look at where key Congressional players stand on immigration indicates reform could come soon

Senators Schumer, Rubio and Reid, and Congressmen Boehner, Ryan and Gutierrez will all have strong motivation to push the Obama Administration to enact sweeping immigration reform

Friday, January 25, 2013, 4:00 AM
*********************************

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/citizenship-now/immigration-chances-good-sweeping-immigration-reform-article-1.1245988#ixzz2J1Lyix1y

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:33 PM

Allah, I have read four of the articles you have posted. So far the only name that I remotely trust on any of this is Sessions. He doesn’t seem to pinche’ hip to it all at this point. Back to reading the rest.

Bmore on January 28, 2013 at 11:33 PM

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:30 PM

I’ve e-mailed tips, but I’ve never had any response.

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:33 PM

Racist!

Oh…wait…

Solaratov on January 28, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Racist!

Axe on January 28, 2013 at 11:34 PM

Speakup on January 28, 2013 at 11:27 PM

It would be nice for all conservatives to copy and send FB etc to their respective Reps and Senators…

An awesome letter!!

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:34 PM

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:27 PM

Sorry to hear that. I went back and had no problem. http://www.cato.org is a pretty reputable safe site, with no junk scripting or ads (unlike other sites we know!)

can_con on January 28, 2013 at 11:34 PM

QUESTION?
Can one of you please tell me what the general response time is from the Hot Air tip line…I filled out their form with my email address… with my question…and it’s been a good 12 hours.
The only time I have used it (tip line) before… was when they banned a couple of veterans here…and I didn’t expect a response…because the people soon showed up here again…Thanks!

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Yeah. Expect silence. :) Standard.

Axe on January 28, 2013 at 11:35 PM

WOW !
Page 2, and y’all are still on subject ? kewl !
Not sarc, btw .. Just a vino-induced observation, is all.
Teehee.

pambi on January 28, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Bmore on January 28, 2013 at 11:33 PM

…want to lol?…(I saw the thread was still going as of 9 PM still tonight!)

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:36 PM

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:30 PM

I’ve e-mailed tips, but I’ve never had any response.

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:33 PM

Back in the day, Byran Preston used to take care of the tips, I used to get e-mail from him on almost a weekly basis. But that was a long time ago.

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:36 PM

*Wait, you used tip for a question?

Then I dunno. Strike my above answer please.

Axe on January 28, 2013 at 11:36 PM

“a nation with a not-implausible claim to much of our Southwestern territory.”

I’m tired of this old bullsh!t canard. In the days when Mexico claimed to own the Southwest, ownership was defined by the ability to take and hold territory. Under that definition, the Comanche owned the Southwest (and more). Up to a point, Mexico was adamant about keeping out Anglo settlers in Texas and the Southwest. Have you ever wondered why that changed and Stephen F. Austin et al were invited in?

It was because Mexico decided to send an army into Texas to “deal with” the unruly Comanche. The Comanche weren’t impressed and wiped out a 20,000 man force…

So Mexico invited Anglos into a territory they couldn’t secure to help serve as a buffer against the Comanches (if they couldn’t secure Texas against the Comanche, they couldn’t secure Mexico). Anglos got a foothold, later obtained repeating rifles and the rest is history…

Mexico never owned the Southwest…

Read some actual freaking history…

fabrexe on January 28, 2013 at 11:36 PM

can_con on January 28, 2013 at 11:34 PM

Ty can_con, it’s not your problem hon!

My laptop is old and cranky sometimes! Scan came up clean!

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:37 PM

Yeah. Expect silence. :) Standard.

Axe on January 28, 2013 at 11:35 PM

…so they are like the staff of my old congressman and Presidential hopeful …Thaddeus McCotter?

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:37 PM

So, how does immigration reform enhance job production..?

d1carter on January 28, 2013 at 11:39 PM

was in a meeting and someone made a crack about Texas being “another country”. I had to bite my tongue not to make a smarta$$ed comment.

gophergirl on January 28, 2013 at 10:59 PM

GG:)
====


(Snark)

Texas of the North

Hey, Republicans: Feeling like outcasts after Obama’s re-election? Come on up to Canada!
NOVEMBER 12, 2012
*****************

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/11/12/texas_of_the_north

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:39 PM

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:36 PM

I don’t think I ever e-mailed directly to Bryan or sent tips in back then. I used to be intimidated. :)

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:39 PM

I doubt anyone will give up until it is signed sealed and delivered.

We can but try to stop it… that’s all we have!

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:10 PM

You always wonder if one call makes a difference. Add all those single calls up and sometimes it can swing the pendulum. It happened in 2006/2007. Can it be stopped this time? I don’t know, but I’ll burn the phone lines, send emails and visit the offices in person until the ink is dry. I don’t think Cruz was going to come out with a statement today, but he was flooded with protest calls.

TxAnn56 on January 28, 2013 at 11:40 PM

Axe on January 28, 2013 at 11:36 PM

…okay!…it was related to threads on the left and the right of our screens…and I was curious. Nothing difficult.

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:40 PM

bluefox on January 28, 2013

…I came home from work tonight about 10 or so… and went to the ignored Palin thread… to see if steebo got his wish!….LOL!…have never seen an Archived thread with action!…that has to be historic!

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:19 PM

LOL, I know. I think it’s awesome. We are Cultists now, ROFL

bluefox on January 28, 2013 at 11:40 PM

canopfor on January 28, 2013 at 11:39 PM

I would but it’s too bloody cold and too darn dark all winter long!!

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:41 PM

So, how does immigration reform enhance job production..?

d1carter on January 28, 2013 at 11:39 PM

We are going to give them jobs building fighter jets that we give away to Egypt.

JPeterman on January 28, 2013 at 11:41 PM

WOW !
Page 2, and y’all are still on subject ? kewl !
Not sarc, btw .. Just a vino-induced observation, is all.
Teehee.

pambi on January 28, 2013 at 11:36 PM

…QUICK!…tell bluegill !

KOOLAID2 on January 28, 2013 at 11:42 PM

I can’t say how much this “immigration bill” makes me sick.

I want those “eight” to look each LEGAL immigrant in the eye, and tell them that now these “semi-legal” immigrants will get the same rights and benefits that they do.
They’re all a bunch of damn cowards and all they do is think about themselves. When are they going to do something for the right reasons??

BTW…..I’ll believe that they’ll be “increasing border security” when I see it.

“If we do succeed, and I think we will, it will be a testimonial to Ted Kennedy’s effort years ago that laid the groundwork for this agreement,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.),

I truly think I’m going to be sick. *groan*

tencole on January 28, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Since you’ve all depressed me LOL – I think it’s time for bed.

Good night all

gophergirl on January 28, 2013 at 11:43 PM

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:36 PM

I don’t think I ever e-mailed directly to Bryan or sent tips in back then. I used to be intimidated. :)

INC on January 28, 2013 at 11:39 PM

To bad, Bryan was great, always responded, even to goofy gag e-mails…

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:43 PM

I would but it’s too bloody cold and too darn dark all winter long!!

Scrumpy on January 28, 2013 at 11:41 PM

Not to mention winter lasts all damned year long in Canada… o_O

SWalker on January 28, 2013 at 11:44 PM

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