Quotes of the day

posted at 10:19 pm on January 28, 2013 by Allahpundit

A marginalized group emerged from the shadows today to assert that they indeed have a voice, and a future, in American society. We speak, of course, of members of Congress. After years of scurrying for political cover, a brave handful of senators held a daylight, weekday news conference in Washington to present — in writing — a surprisingly detailed outline for overhauling the nation’s immigration laws…

Trey Gowdy, a second-term Republican who is chairman of the House Judiciary Committee’s immigration subcommittee, is known as a hawk on illegal immigration. Yet he told a newspaper in his home state of South Carolina that he wants a system that reflects “the humanity that I think defines us as a people, and the respect for the rule of law that defines us as a republic.” If that’s the standard Congress maintains for immigration reform, millions will be on a path to citizenship, and the nation will be on the high road to success.

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Advocates expect to lose at least five Democrats in the Senate, which means they will need upwards of a dozen Republicans to vote for the legislation. That’s where Rubio and other tea party favorites like Sen. Mike Lee of Utah will come into play. Rubio and Lee are newcomers to an old discussion among Republican veterans like McCain and Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. Newly elected Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona will be a key Republican player as well…

Boehner has to be careful. He only has so many chances to put incendiary legislation on the floor before his caucus stages an all-out revolt. To appease them, he will probably offer one or two high-profile House votes, where Democrats will protest like crazy, on enforcement-only immigration legislation. That gets the dealmakers to the next step, a conference committee where anything can happen. As Kennedy was fond of saying, “We’ll fix it in conference.”

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“As I’ve stated before, elections, elections,” said McCain, who along with seven colleagues spoke out at a Monday afternoon Capitol Hill press conference about a set of bipartisan principles for reform they had released a day earlier.

“The Republican Party is losing the support of our Hispanic citizens, and we realize there are many issues in which we think we are in agreement with our Hispanic citizens, but this is a pre-eminent issue for those citizens,” said McCain, his party’s standard-bearer in the 2008 presidential election.

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Why won’t this new reform be a repeat of the 1986 reform, when the amnesty provisions were implemented but the enforcement half was blocked by ACLU-style lawsuits and bureaucratic weakness? The result was a broken border and the approximately 11 million new unauthorized immigrants we’re talking about giving amnesty to today. (If it wouldn’t bother you if an Obama amnesty attracted millions of new unauthorized immigrants, then let’s be open about that.)…

Are we really that good at assimilating? Yes, American culture is powerful. But now there is an entrenched lobby for bilingual education, and identity politics curricula that teach young people they’re right to resist assimilation. Formal and informal race preferences reward Americans for maintaining separate ethnic identies. And then there’s Univision, which would go out of business if too many people spoke the common language.

Isn’t Mexico special? Other immigrants had to cross oceans and cut ties to get here–and many still do. But half of our new unauthorized immigrants come from a single country a day’s drive away–a nation with a not-implausible claim to much of our Southwestern territory. The “border” may mean something else to them than it does to us, or to other immigrants. Everywhere else in the world this is a recipe for turmoil. Why are we immune?

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As the Hispanic electorate becomes less Cuban, more Mexican and Central American, it becomes less susceptible to GOP cultural themes. The claim that Hispanic voters are “natural Republicans” is based on nothing but wishful thinking, fortified by ignorance.

Economically struggling Hispanics need and want more government than the GOP will offer them, and the 11 million illegals soon to embark on their “path to citizenship” will need and want even more: Earned Income Tax Credits, Medicaid, Section 8 housing, food stamps, and so on. Even into the fourth generation after joining the American workforce, Mexican-Americans remain strikingly less likely to finish college than Anglo-Americans.

It’s not true for everyone, of course, but it’s true for enough to ensure that Democrats will win the larger share of the Hispanic vote for a long time to come.

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By definition, creating a path to citizenship turns illegal aliens into potential voters, and any serious analysis of Hispanic opinion tells you that those new voters’ interests and beliefs will tend to align with the Democratic Party. No, not necessarily forever, but across the next few decades of American politics there is simply no plausible case that gratitude to Marco Rubio and Jeff Flake will convert a liberal-leaning voting bloc into a true swing constituency, let alone a Republican-tilting demographic. Which makes it very, very easy to imagine a future where immigration reform helps Republicans win a slightly higher percentage of the Hispanic vote, but costs them many more votes in absolute terms by accelerating the ongoing demographic shifts in the electorate. (And that’s without getting into the incentives that such a deal would create for future migration, or its disillusioning impact on the working class white voters the G.O.P. still can’t win without …)

Presumably these costs would be reduced if the reform’s path to citizenship were long and arduous enough, with more waiting and more hurdles than a straightforward amnesty. But then the immediate political benefits to Republicans become much more uncertain as well, since they would still be playing the “bad cop” role in a policy debate that would no doubt extend for many years after the initial bill were passed. (The ads write themselves: “Republican candidate X says that he supports immigration reform, but he’s voted again and again to keep hardworking immigrants in legal limbo, deny their children benefits, etc. …”)

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[O]pen-borders advocacy groups are signaling that they will fight any enforcement measures that are enacted into law. One activist writes at the Huffington Post that any amnesty package should terminate a program that prosecutes border infiltrators (it’s a misdemeanor on the first offense, a felony afterward). You would think they’d be willing to support such a program after an amnesty and after the Senate outline’s provision for effectively unlimited immigration go into effect. But apparently they understand better than clueless Republican pols that an amnesty bill will serve as a magnet for more illegal immigration because the enforcement promises are fake, and they want to make sure that flow is not impeded.

Also, the ACLU has made clear that it will wage a legal jihad against the provision mandating the screening of all new hires with the E-Verify system. E-Verify is the main enforcement bait the open-borders crowd holds out to attract naïve conservatives to back amnesty (though the Senate outline was careful not to mention E-Verify specifically, because Schumer wants to replace it with something “better,” a process which wouldn’t be completed until years after all the current illegals are legalized — if ever). Preventing its full implementation is key to crippling future enforcement and ensuring that illegal immigration continues.

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U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) issued the following statement regarding today’s bipartisan immigration reform proposal:

I appreciate the good work that senators in both parties have put into trying to fix our broken immigration system. There are some good elements in this proposal, especially increasing the resources and manpower to secure our border and also improving and streamlining legal immigration. However, I have deep concerns with the proposed path to citizenship. To allow those who came here illegally to be placed on such a path is both inconsistent with rule of law and profoundly unfair to the millions of legal immigrants who waited years, if not decades, to come to America legally.

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Today, Senator Mike Lee made the following statement with regard to the Statement of Principles on immigration reform released by the Group of Eight:…

I remain greatly supportive of what the group aims to accomplish and will continue to work with my colleagues to solve many of the challenges this important issue presents. Although I am encouraged by the process and continue to support efforts to make real progress on immigration reform, I am not able to sign the Statement of Principles released today.

These guidelines contemplate a policy that will grant special benefits to illegal immigrants based on their unlawful presence in the country. Reforms to our complex and dysfunctional immigration system should not in any way favor those who came here illegally over the millions of applicants who seek to come here lawfully.

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A House conservative who has taken a leading role in the lower chamber’s discussions on immigration, Rep. Raul Labrador (R-Idaho), said the ideas released Monday were “good principles” that were similar to those that members of both parties in the House were discussing.

But he said the group’s proposal for a path to citizenship stuck out as a concern and would be “tough” to accept in the House.

“I think that’s going to be one of the sticking points between the House and the Senate,” Labrador said. “We have to be careful about rewarding people for illegal activity with citizenship.”…

Labrador said he and other conservatives are looking for signs that President Obama wants a “policy victory” on immigration and not simply a “political victory” that comes from blaming Republicans for a failure to pass legislation.

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Which brings us back to Mr. Obama. The President will lay out his own reform principles Tuesday, but the question is whether he wants an achievement or a political issue. If he wants a genuine reform, the Senate framework shows how much Republicans have already moved his way. GOP leaders can read the 2012 exit polls, and thanks to the persuasion of Mr. Rubio, Jeb Bush and a few others, more conservatives are now more amenable to reform.

Yet neither Mr. Obama nor his White House have reached out to Mr. Rubio, and many Democrats want to use the immigration issue to drive turnout in election after election. Their goal is to have a legislative dance and then blame Republicans for killing reform sometime in 2014.

If that is Mr. Obama’s real goal, he’ll demand too much—by gutting the guest-worker program again or complicating it with too much bureaucracy, or by insisting on a quick and easy path to citizenship for illegals. Mr. Obama will have to decide if he wants a legacy of reform, or more partisanship.

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One of the things to look for is whether Obama has the good sense to lead from behind and not claim this plan as his own crusade. That is the surest way to piss off Congress, especially congressional Republicans, just as it is children and bosses. Letting them come up with the plan and showing a willingness to sign off on it would probably be the best bet. If it’s seen as Obama’s plan, they’ll reflexively oppose it. If it’s Marco Rubio’s plan, even if it bears little difference from Obama’s, Republicans—who want Hispanics’ love even more than a tax cut—will embrace it…

Getting to the finish line on immigration won’t be easy despite the new receptivity. There are policy questions: Will the E-Verify system be widely demanded or not? What’s the route to green cards? There are political ones: Can the tea party back off its tough stand on immigration? Can labor and Hispanic groups accept tougher documentation standards? There’s a reason we haven’t had a big immigration bill in more than a generation. Knowing when to have a light touch will require the president to be less assertive than he was in his inaugural address.

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“If we do succeed, and I think we will, it will be a testimonial to Ted Kennedy’s effort years ago that laid the groundwork for this agreement,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a member of the bipartisan group of senators that on Monday backed a set of principles for comprehensive immigration reform.

“You will find that this agreement has very little difference from that of the legislation that was led by Sen. Kennedy some years ago.”

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“I think it’s important before we let the moment pass to acknowledge that the progress we’re seeing embodied in the priniciples put forward by this bipartisan group is happening for a reason: I think it’s happening because consensus is developing in the country, a bipartisan consensus, and it’s happening because the president has demonstrated significant leadership on this issue,” Carney said.

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Via Greg Hengler.


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Hiya cms. Hows you?

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 6:13 AM

1) GOP is into self suicide
2) This country is switching to a Banana Republic (We are just at the very beginning)

Oil Can on January 29, 2013 at 6:17 AM

Changes better be made to this plan.

bluegill on January 29, 2013 at 6:11 AM

it will to reflect what dear leader wants…gop will cave even more…

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 6:13 AM

doing well, first cup of coffee just poured…upset with all this crapola that is going on…gop really thinks this will help them with the latino vote, ain’t gonna happen

cmsinaz on January 29, 2013 at 6:20 AM

Pour me a mug too, will ya? :-)

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 6:21 AM

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 6:21 AM

you got it…cream, sugar?

I see crr6 has returned to HA…

cmsinaz on January 29, 2013 at 6:24 AM

Theres a bipartisan love affair going on right now, and the romance is torrid. Looking forward to the upcoming divorce.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 6:24 AM

cms, both cream and sugar. And no, its crrr6. Thats an extra r, a spoof of the liberal handle. crrr6 is a conservative.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 6:27 AM

There seems to be an invisible primary going on between King and Latham for the Iowa senate seat. The est pubs want Latham. The tea party activists back King. Another est vs. tea party fight? Jeez, get united already. We got bigger fish to fry.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 6:36 AM

The Vichy government was under occupation and carried out the orders of the German occupier. – Jean-Marie Le Pen The Failed Passive Resistance Strategy of the GOP”
My take.

kingsjester on January 29, 2013 at 6:39 AM

Mass senate special elections scheduled for June 25th. Brown has an enormous lead on the preferred dem candidate. A race to watch.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 6:43 AM

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 6:27 AM

ahhhh thanks….

some lib talking head is really worried about leaving future generations with the climate change fiasco, we need cap and trade now but has no problem leaving the future generations with a mountain of debt

go figure

cmsinaz on January 29, 2013 at 6:48 AM

kingsjester on January 29, 2013 at 6:39 AM

excellent take KJ

read it folks

cmsinaz on January 29, 2013 at 6:49 AM

cmsinaz on January 29, 2013 at 6:49 AM

Thank you, ma’am.

I could have just called them “a bunch of wusses”, but that would have made for a very short Blog.:)

kingsjester on January 29, 2013 at 6:51 AM

@cms They enact some climate change crapola, and seriously, the economy will go down the tubes. Might as well migrate to Canada or Mexico.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 6:54 AM

kingsjester on January 29, 2013 at 6:51 AM

:)

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 6:54 AM

yup, scary times…

canopfor better start buying up some land for us….

cmsinaz on January 29, 2013 at 6:57 AM

The better half has jury duty today. Hang em high! Lol!

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 7:07 AM

If the economy collapses that badly, the USD would be worthless. And so would the Euro. Might have to depend on the Chinese yuan. Hopefully, canopfor would accept yuan for land. ;-)

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 7:07 AM

Or is it hang em good! No Matter, for a change it ain’t me at the end of her rope. Lol! ; )

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 7:08 AM

B, the accused is a goner. lol

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 7:09 AM

Gonna be a busy day off. Lots to do. Where to start? Have a great day all! Say, that’s a nice place to start. ; )

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 7:09 AM

Coffee!!!

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 7:10 AM

Great day to you too, B.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 7:10 AM

I’m just brewing a cuppa.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 7:11 AM

Time for the States to step up. Gotta strip the Fed of some of this power.

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 7:14 AM

If y’all don’t know your Governor, might be time to introduce yourself.

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 7:16 AM

B, don’t forget bout them Arabian stallions. They be mean. ;-)

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 7:17 AM

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 7:10 AM

To you as well! Say what time zone are you in? Is it the one where no one ever sleeps? Lol!

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 7:17 AM

Ah yes, there it is. The sound of come on we have to go. More coffee!!!

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 7:19 AM

I see crr6 has returned to HA…

cmsinaz on January 29, 2013 at 6:24 AM

…there’s an extra r

KOOLAID2 on January 29, 2013 at 7:20 AM

Bmore on January 29, 2013 at 7:16 AM

Oh don’t don’t worry Bmore, I am guessing mine, whoever it is, will wish I had never retired in that state:)

MarshFox on January 29, 2013 at 7:20 AM

Sleep? Whats that? Just a waste of time. Spark has given me his magic beans. Don’t need sleep no more. :-)

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 7:21 AM

So is Prophet Obama (pbuh) going to seriously resist the senate proposals? Nah, me thinks its all kabuki.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 7:24 AM

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 7:21 AM

Time enough for that when I am dead! That quote just sticks with me for some reason.

MarshFox on January 29, 2013 at 7:26 AM

Good evening to you, MarshFox. Yeah, good quote actually.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 7:29 AM

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 7:29 AM

It is that, just hanging around till Mrs Marshfox(Lila Munro) gets up, so we can skype a few then its off to bed.

MarshFox on January 29, 2013 at 7:31 AM

Hows the weather out there? Chilly like the rest of the world? Or is it like Aussie Land, where summer is winter and winter, summer.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 7:34 AM

Time for me to re-register as an R.
I will be voting against Rubio
every chance I get.
McCain,Grahm..what a effing surprise.
@#@%@^%$%

bazil9 on January 29, 2013 at 7:35 AM

I effing hate politicians.

bazil9 on January 29, 2013 at 7:38 AM

You’re in a bright and sunny mood today, b9. :-) I was just this second gonna ask all if they’ve seen you around. Or send out the search and rescue party.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 7:39 AM

KA2…Tommy set me straight

Thanks :)

cmsinaz on January 29, 2013 at 7:39 AM

bazil9 on January 29, 2013 at 7:35 AM

I understand. The Vichy Republicans are in control and do not answer to us (they think).

kingsjester on January 29, 2013 at 7:39 AM

yeah, I’m just an effing ray of sunshine. :)
I don’t like waking up to this.

bazil9 on January 29, 2013 at 7:41 AM

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 7:34 AM

Cold and blustery for the most part, haven’t seen it too cold here though, wind does it a bit, rains a lot in winter here, sometimes I think typhoon season never really ends. Not much longer though, then its off to Oregon and a new weather pattern.

MarshFox on January 29, 2013 at 7:43 AM

kingsjester on January 29, 2013 at 7:39 AM

I had a idea of who Rubio was, after serving here under Jeb.
But it was him or Crist. So, he got my vote of course.
I could spit nails KJ.
Your right..they think they don’t serve us-we serve them.
Never again for me. They will earn my vote or not.
This was Rubio’s 3rd strike for me and a biggie.

bazil9 on January 29, 2013 at 7:45 AM

Looks like McCain (being the age he is) has an heir. Rubio is the new Maverick. Not a very sunny disposition, is it?

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 7:46 AM

Tommy-he also seems to have a female heir
K Ayotte. New gang of 6 is being trained and formed for take over.

bazil9 on January 29, 2013 at 7:49 AM

Good morning all
and Tommy,KJ.. :)
Rude of me.

bazil9 on January 29, 2013 at 7:51 AM

And if I remember right, Ayotte was a long time supporter of Romney. Yeah, she fits right into the Maverick mould.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 7:55 AM

MarshFox, thanks for the info.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 7:57 AM

McCain just pissed on the hobbits.
Look at that grin.

ahhh…hispandering..
dudes from AZ and FL..what could be the connection?

bazil9 on January 29, 2013 at 8:07 AM

Rubio is a ‘Maverick’ son that McCain never had? ;-)

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 8:15 AM

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 7:21 AM

Greetings Little Tommy, you’ve been cracking me up for a couple of days now. Oh, where are my manners. Hi, I’m Fallon. You remind me of someone… at the end of the clip.

Gotta go pick up the granddaughter. It’s gonna be a fun day.

Fallon on January 29, 2013 at 8:29 AM

Hey you idiot republicans!!!! Politico is already reporting that Obama will NOT NOT NOT support ENFORCEMENT provisions of your Amnesty shinola!!!

Marco Rubio……or is it Jeb Junior?

What about US Sovereignty????

PappyD61 on January 29, 2013 at 8:33 AM

Hiya Fallon. Good to meet you too. Nice to know that I crack you up. :-) Have a great day with your granddaughter.

tommy71 on January 29, 2013 at 8:41 AM

yeah, I’m just an effing ray of sunshine. :)
I don’t like waking up to this.

bazil9 on January 29, 2013 at 7:41 AM

Morning sugar cakes, (:

SparkPlug on January 29, 2013 at 10:06 AM

1. The Democrats do not win on issues or ideas or canidates, they are the lie the msm cooked up in their lie pots and pans.

2. It is our job, duty to over come the lies the msm sells.

3. The U.S. would vote some where near 65% conservative if we the people had an honest and non commie media.

4. Hell the Democrat Party would be half ass normal.

5. The lies now are starting to fail even with the msm holding it up.

The lies will sink the msm and the commie Democrats, the debt can not be held up by lies it will take production to pay it. The msm nor the commie Democrats have a clue as to how to fix any of that.
It will pull them down.

The ever bigger lies of the CO2 death cult bull shit has prior come undone and even the U.N. leadership knows as do the likes of Micheal Mann etal, they are just fighting a rear guard action to try to stay out of jail and or loose every evil dime they lied for paying lawyers to keep then free.

The dole will not work, the insanity of putting 20 million new “Spanish Speaking” uneducated people on the dole/benny rolls will only make the crash come faster.

Be ready for the crash, it will take a huge effort to keep the ship U.S.A. from being dragged down in the back wash of the lies and fraud.

Lies never win out.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 29, 2013 at 10:42 AM

This amnesty deal is garbage. They will become legal, and nothing will be done for border security.

Correct. :)

Changes better be made to this plan.

bluegill on January 29, 2013 at 6:11 AM

. . . :/

Axe on January 29, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Listen up Republicans, when you step on stage with Chuck Schumer to announce a bipartisan agreement, you have already lost……. And if he wasn’t enough of a reason to ask yourself, “what the hell am I thinking?”, then the pudgy disgusting pig that smells like a Jersey sewer standing on stage with Schmucky? He is under investigation for having sex with underage prostitutes. This isn’t a gang of 8. It’s a gang rape of 4 on 4.

JeffinOrlando on January 29, 2013 at 2:13 PM

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