Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on January 27, 2013 by Allahpundit

The Senate proposal will probably include four main elements: border enforcement, employer enforcement, handling the future flow of legal immigration (including temporary agriculture workers and high-skilled engineers) and a pathway to citizenship for those who entered the nation illegally. Mr. Obama’s approach will largely echo his 2011 immigration “blueprint,” which he first outlined in a speech in El Paso, and calls for a pathway to citizenship for the more than 11 million illegal immigrants already in the country.

Though all members of the Senate group agree that some pathway to legal residency must be a part of the final proposal, they are still divided on what exactly that route should be. Republican lawmakers are urging that border security be tied to a pathway to citizenship and other requirements like having those who entered illegally go to the back of the line behind immigrants already waiting to enter the country legally, paying fines and back-taxes, and learning English.

“You’ve got border security, you’ve got employer verification and you’ve got a temporary worker program that addresses the magnet, so those three things have to go together to address operational control over your border,” said Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, one of the senators mapping out the legislation. “Then you go to the next big thing — the 12 million. How do you deal with the 12 million in a firm, fair way, realizing you can’t put them all in jail and they’re not all going to self-deport?”…

“It’s going far better than any of us expected,” Mr. Schumer said in an interview.

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Boehner’s comments suggested action in the House is possible as well. In response to a question, Boehner said it is “time to deal” with changes to immigration law. Republican leaders, long opposed to legal changes that would allow more than 11 million undocumented immigrants to obtain legal residency, are increasingly shifting on the issue. They fear alienating a growing bloc of Latino voters whose opposition could force the party into a permanent minority status.

“There’s a bipartisan group of members who have been meeting for three or four years now,” Boehner told the Ripon Society. “Frankly, I think they basically have an agreement. I’ve not seen the agreement. I don’t know all the pitfalls. But it’s, in my view, the right group of members.”

“My theory was that if these folks could work this out, it’d be a big step in the right direction,” Boehner said, describing the group has one that includes both “hard heads” on the Republican side, as well advocates of immigration reform. “So I would think you’re likely to hear a lot more about immigration reform on the House side soon.”

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The birthrate in this country has fallen below the level necessary to sustain the population at the very time that millions of Americans are leaving the workforce and expecting retirement benefits. The nation needs energetic young workers to spur the economy and support an ever-increasing social-welfare burden.

The only alternatives to increased immigration are mounting debts or reduced social services. A practicable system of work-based immigration for both high-skilled and low-skilled immigrants—a system that will include a path to citizenship—will help us meet workforce needs, prevent exportation of jobs to foreign countries and protect against the exploitation of workers…

Most immigrants come here to secure a better life for themselves and their families. They cherish the values of hard work, faith, family, enterprise and patriotism that have made this country great. Meanwhile, many who were lucky enough to have been born here have grown complacent or even disdainful of these values. America’s immigration system should provide opportunities for people who share the country’s core values to become citizens, thereby strengthening the nation as have countless immigrants have before them.

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In fact the law-and-order argument, as we have pointed out a few times against immigration reform, has always been among the weakest objections. A system with coyote smugglers, forged paperwork, no enforcement and tax evasion is not law and order by any stretch of the imagination. Moreover, if Rubio is on a roll he might want to explain that the pejorative “amnesty” applies only when there is no consequence for failure to follow the law. That is not what Rubio (who envisions a fine, back taxes, possibly community service and no preferential treatment for citizenship) has been proposing — nor has most every other plan out there. That term is a red herring, indicative of a lazy argument…

It is interesting how a seemingly insoluble problem (e.g. weaning the GOP off immigration exclusionism) melts away if the timing, the messenger, the rollout and the substance of a solution are well considered. Just as the “never agree to any tax hike anywhere, anytime” faded with the realization that the GOP couldn’t stick to that without the White House and Senate, so too there is now a pathway for the GOP to rescue itself and address a major issue.

***

Comprehensive immigration reform could make millions of people suddenly eligible for assistance under President Obama’s healthcare law, assuming a final deal paves the way for undocumented immigrants to receive papers…

Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.), a member of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, said the legalization of undocumented people would benefit hospitals now burdened by uncompensated care.

If nothing changes, undocumented immigrants will be a major share of the uninsured, second only to those who are eligible but do not apply for coverage under the healthcare law in 2014, according to the Urban Institute…

“The bottom line is, these people would be contributing toward their own healthcare and not being dependent. They’d be paying taxes. I’d see that as a plus rather than a negative,” he said.

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[Demanding comprehensive reform] is the same argument Jeb’s leftist allies in his amnesty crusade made during their push for Obamacare. Rather than undertake modest, incremental reforms — allowing the purchase of health insurance across state lines, for instance — the Democrats wanted “comprehensive health-care reform,” and we ended up with a 2,000-page doorstop law that we had to pass to learn what it contains. “Comprehensive immigration reform” might as well be called “Obamigration.”

The authors trot out “The nation needs energetic young workers to spur the economy and support an ever-increasing social-welfare burden.” Uh, immigrants are around twice as likely as the native-born to be poor and use welfare. Among Hispanic immigrants, who represent the lion’s share of the low-skilled workers the op-ed says we need “to support an ever-increasing social-welfare burden,” the majority are on welfare. This isn’t because they’re lazy spongers — fully one-third of immigrant households with a worker present are on welfare. The problem is that a post-industrial, knowledge-based economy doesn’t need additional low-skilled workers. As Milton Friedman famously said, “It’s just obvious you can’t have free immigration and a welfare state.”…

Bush and Bolick end with a fireworks finale of clichés. Immigrants “cherish the values of hard work, faith, family, enterprise and patriotism that have made this country great” and “replenish the American spirit.” While Americans, of course, “have grown complacent or even disdainful of these values.” Immigrants are people like any other, and experience the same temptations and dysfunctions of modernity — illegitimacy, family breakdown, decline of religion, and the rest. Jeb’s objectification of immigrants and antipathy toward the actually-existing American people is repellent but deplorably commonplace among immigration enthusiasts.

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The success of the Republican Party in rural areas, exurbs and in the South has come at a cost. Socially conservative voters will resist changing their spots. When, and if, Republican leaders determine that the demands of these voters for “massive resistance” to abortion, contraception and immigration are futile, they will have to decide whether to cut them loose. No matter what happens, social conservatives are unlikely to become Democrats. It may not be too long before they find themselves with a choice of their own: withdraw from party politics or hold their noses and stick with the Republicans.

***

Two senators at the center of negotiations over comprehensive immigration reform, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) said on Sunday that a pathway to citizenship is an essential component of a comprehensive reform bill.

“That has to be also part of it,” McCain told ABC News’ Martha Raddatz on “This Week” when asked whether a pathway to citizenship would be a component of reform. “There’s a new appreciation on both sides of the aisle including, maybe more importantly on the Republican side of the aisle, that we have to enact comprehensive immigration reform.”…

“I’m very pleased with the progress,” McCain said. “It’s not that much different from what we tried to do in 2007.”

Via R.S. McCain:

***

“Sitting in these meetings with three Democrats and three Republicans, working on this immigration issue has been as encouraging as the rules vote on Thursday night,” Durbin said on “Fox News Sunday”, referencing a bipartisan agreement in the Senate last week to tweak the filibuster rules.

“We are trying to work our way through some very difficult issues but we are committed to working on a comprehensive approach to finally in this country have an immigration law we can live with,” he added.

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predator on January 27, 2013 at 9:07 PM

Very good indeed! Keep playing them!

Scrumpy on January 27, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Good..You will have no trouble with the .40..:)

Dire Straits on January 27, 2013 at 9:13 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on January 27, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Cool beans.

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Kewl Scrumpy. We all be praying for you to be healed. God bless.

tommy71 on January 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM

For 0. Better than he deserves.

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:12 PM

You are right..ZZ Top is better then Zero deserves..

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Okay, I have done my duty to this thread. Allah, care to cue one up? My email bos is empty so I figure you aren’t here.

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM

It will be safe :-). So sorry I was so ‘ugly’ last night…

I have eaten, just what I said I would some Lo Mein… tho not til late afternoon.

Subsisting on 600 cals, for 3and a half days, from Gatorade and just drinking water and eating sugar free jello, did nothing for me!!

I don’t think I have a virus…meds should have kicked in by now.

Scrumpy on January 27, 2013 at 9:11 PM

I’m sorry Scrumpy, may your illness pass soon.

22044 on January 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Some of them are really hard to slide. I am usually good under pressure but then I have never been in a life or death situation. I worry about fumbling for the safety and trying to remember if a round is chambered or not. A friend of mine just got a semi-auto and immediately hated it because it had too much kick. Lots to think about.

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Some of that may be because you’re not used to it. Practice will make it seem more natural, hence easier and more comfortable to do. Revolvers are fine (I have two), but you’re limited to six shots most of the time (there are nine-shot .22s). The extra capacity and faster firing rate of the semi-autos is their big advantage. A revolver is adequate for one assailant. But unless you’re really good with it, problems can arise if you’re facing more than one.

Test both kinds. And do it more than once, if possible. Then make your call.

predator on January 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM

bos=box

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM

“Then you go to the next big thing — the 12 million. How do you deal with the 12 million in a firm, fair way, realizing you can’t put them all in jail and they’re not all going to self-deport?”

Ahhh yes, the typical argument of the amnesty shill. They won’t ALL leave, therefore we must allow them ALL to stay instead. How many of them are going to deport doing it your way, genius? And by the way, ALL of them won’t come out of the shadows and sign up for whatever deal you ultimately come up with either, but let’s not talk about that, right Senator Grahamnesty?

xblade on January 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM

My email bos is empty so I figure you aren’t here.

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Cat in fanny pack..
Strolling NY.

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:15 PM

For DarkCurrent; something not from the 70′s or 80′s. Something new.

Axe on January 27, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Umpteen times better. It was the title.

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:16 PM

THE PAPPY PLAN….

1. SEAL the border.
Saves entitlements that we’ve been robbed of by the traitors in DC. Let cheap labor in for their rich business friends to exploit and then they suck off the entitlement sow,that was supposed to fund our retirement and Medicare etc.

2. 10% across the board spending CUTS.
Real ones $350 billion the first year, and so on.

DC is completely devoid of concern for this nation and its future. And the gop will have no hope when they lose Texas.

This should be called the “TURN TEXAS BLUE ACT”!!!!

PappyD61 on January 27, 2013 at 9:16 PM

I was born in Latin America. Most illegals are Latin American. If you even dream they’ll vote GOP you’re plain delusional. Venezuela? Argentina? Cuba? Mexico? The few Americans that can name all the countries in Latin America should then add who they elect.When they’re allowed to vote. Sure, the GOP moderates say they’re Catholic and family and all that but guess who was speaker when Obamacare passed?

Of the 11 to 20 million illegals, well over 80% will vote Democrat. And they’ll do it forever. Once they get “carded” or whatever states, then the margin of vote fraud will hit double digits. Get a card, get a driver’s license get motor-voter. Just like WA State is now doing.

If one is to surrender, one would hope they’d have a trigger requiring the Administration to,say, enforce a national voter photo ID and secure the border. But, for sure, ain’t gonna happen.

Some pundits and maybe Obama think they’ll destroy the GOP. They’re wrong. The GOP will do that all by themselves, thank you very much.

Carthoris on January 27, 2013 at 9:16 PM

It might be a nice scheme, but it will make the system fail faster, not slower… they may be idiots those one pushing this stuff, but they aren’t that suicidal. They are counting on the few sane people there to stop this.

ajacksonian on January 27, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Ponzi schemes always eventually collapse, those running them on the other hand also always try to keep them going as long as possible.

Contrary to what most Conservatives think, Social Security was never intended to be a Ponzi Scheme, nor was it designed as a Ponzi Scheme. It was originally designed and intended to be a retirement investment strategy.

Along the way however, various members of Congress took to using the Social Security Trust Fund as their own little Omnibus Spending slush fund.

Large market hedge funds and retirement accounts make tremendous profits based not on the dollar amount of the individual investor, but on the total combined investment amount of all the members.

The amount that your 401K returns is orders of magnitude greater than the amount that you actually invest, not because the amount you invest is capable of earning that much of a return, but because the aggregate amount of all the investors is.

The same was initially true of social security until after 50 years of borrowing the fund surplus and replacing it with government bonds which returned a lower rate of return finally accrued to an amount whose negative balance finally became a constant deficit.

In other words, there came a time when the difference between what the total fund was worth as an investment fund and the amount that the government bonds were paying became a negative sum.

SWalker on January 27, 2013 at 9:17 PM

xblade on January 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM

How does Trig feel about it though?

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:17 PM

I am so sorry, what in the world did I say?

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Too heavy!!!!! I called the parents and emailed the few conservatives I know. You get the QOTD trophy.

*bows*

Laura in Maryland on January 27, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Lol! Cat licker off on Sundays eh?

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:18 PM

tommy71 on January 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM

22044 on January 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Yeah me too, tho it won’t be the first time I have had somthing like this before.

Goes with my overall condition :-(

Can’t complain tho…

Thank you for your prayers tommy…

Thank you everyone {{hugs}}

Scrumpy on January 27, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Here is Steve Kroft’s “tough” questioning on Benghazi:

When we come back, the president and Secretary Clinton discuss the disaster in Benghazi and the state of her health.

Hillary Clinton’s final days as secretary of state included one of her most difficult. On Wednesday, she spent more than five hours being grilled on Capitol Hill for the security failures in Benghazi that led to the deaths of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans; the biggest diplomatic disaster of this administration. The Accountability Review led by Admiral Mike Mullen and Ambassador Thomas Pickering found, among many failures, that Stevens’ repeated requests for better security never made it to Clinton’s desk. And representatives and senators pressed her on whether the administration covered up the nature of the terrorist attack.

[Secretary Clinton: We have four dead Americans, was it because of a protest or was it because of guys going out for a walk and deciding they'll go kill some Americans. What difference-- at this point, what difference does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from happening again, senator.]

Steve Kroft: I want to talk about the hearings this week. You had a very long day. Also, how is your health?

Secretary Clinton: Oh, it’s great. It’s great. Now, you know, I still have some lingering effects from falling on my head and having the blood clot. But, you know, the doctors tell me that that will all recede. And so thankfully I’m, you know, looking forward to being at full speed.

Steve Kroft: Right, I noticed your glasses are–

Secretary Clinton: Yeah, I have some lingering effects from the concussion that are decreasing and will disappear. But I have a lot of sympathy now when I pick up the paper and read about an athlete or one of our soldiers whose had traumatic brain injury. I’d never had anything like that in my family. And so, you know, I’m very conscious of how lucky I was.

Steve Kroft: You said during the hearings, I mean, you’ve accepted responsibility. You’ve accepted the very critical findings of Admiral Mullen and Ambassador Pickering.

As the New York Times put it, you accepted responsibility, but not blame. Do you feel guilty in any way, in– at a personal level? Do you blame yourself that you didn’t know or that you should have known?

Secretary Clinton: Well, Steve, obviously, I deeply regret what happened, as I’ve said many times. I knew Chris Stevens. I sent him there originally. It was a great personal loss to lose him and three other brave Americans. But I also have looked back and tried to figure out what we could do so that nobody, insofar is possible, would be in this position again. And as the Accountability Review Board pointed out, we did fix responsibility appropriately. And we’re taking steps to implement that. But we also live in a dangerous world. And, you know, the people I’m proud to serve and work with in our diplomatic and development personnel ranks, they know it’s a dangerous and risky world. We just have to do everything we can to try to make it as secure as possible for them.

President Obama: I think, you know, one of the things that humbles you as president, I’m sure Hillary feels the same way as secretary of state, is that you realize that all you can do every single day is to figure out a direction, make sure that you are working as hard as you can to put people in place where they can succeed, ask the right questions, shape the right strategy. But it’s going to be a team that both succeeds and fails. And it’s a process of constant improvement, because the world is big and it is chaotic. You know, I remember Bob Gates, you know, first thing he said to me, I think maybe first week or two that I was there and we were meeting in the Oval Office and he, obviously, been through seven presidents or something. And he says, “Mr. President, one thing I can guarantee you is that at this moment, somewhere, somehow, somebody in the federal government is screwing up.” And, you know you’re– and so part of what you’re trying to do is to constantly improve systems and accountability and transparency to minimize those mistakes and ensure success. It is a dangerous world. And that’s part of the reason why we have to continue to get better.

Pathetic.

steebo77 on January 27, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Umpteen times better. It was the title.

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:16 PM

Oh..

I see now :)

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Lol! Cat licker off on Sundays eh?

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:18 PM

I can say that now because..

AP isn’t there..:)

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:21 PM

predator on January 27, 2013 at 9:14 PM

To be honest we just bought something that is probably going to be mine (semi-auto) but we have talked and looked at so much I can’t remember what it is. I don’t know how often I will carry once I get my permit, I really tend to be such a Pollyanna. Obama’s Skittle pooping Unicorns have nothing on me.

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:21 PM

; )

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:22 PM

I see a few folks are making bad decisions on the Palin thread..:)

Dire Straits on January 27, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Here’s the picture.

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:24 PM

I see a few folks are making bad decisions on the Palin thread..:)

Dire Straits on January 27, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Bad decisions have been some of the best decisions of my life.

steebo77 on January 27, 2013 at 9:24 PM

; )

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:22 PM

This also the time the trolls come out…
Safety in numbers I guess..

Haven’t seen a one..

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Some pundits and maybe Obama think they’ll destroy the GOP. They’re wrong. The GOP will do that all by themselves, thank you very much.

Carthoris on January 27, 2013 at 9:16 PM

This. Scads of this.

TxAnn56 on January 27, 2013 at 9:24 PM

steebo77 on January 27, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Good..I can see that..:)

Dire Straits on January 27, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Another thing. Your friend talked about the kick of the s-a. There is a possibility that she is holding it too low on the grip. That reduces her leverage against the recoil. IMO, your hand should never be right down near the end of the grip. Always have it at least at center. It gives you better control.

predator on January 27, 2013 at 9:25 PM

I see a few folks are making bad decisions on the Palin thread..:)

Dire Straits on January 27, 2013 at 9:22 PM

That thing is still going on?

Some people are obsessed.

gophergirl on January 27, 2013 at 9:25 PM

I see a few folks are making bad decisions on the Palin thread..:)

Dire Straits on January 27, 2013 at 9:22 PM

We still have a Palin thread? I’ve been warring with women and the infantry. And generally causing trouble.

The world . . . it should low down. It’s obviously dizzy and a little nauseous.

I’m off to-clicking.

Axe on January 27, 2013 at 9:25 PM

*The “s” is invisible.

Axe on January 27, 2013 at 9:26 PM

I see a few folks are making bad decisions on the Palin thread..:)

Dire Straits on January 27, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Bad decisions have been some of the best decisions of my life. Palin thread? What Palin thread?

steebo77 on January 27, 2013 at 9:24 PM

steebo77 on January 27, 2013 at 9:26 PM

That thing is still going on?

Some people are obsessed.

gophergirl on January 27, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Good grief. 1849 comments.

predator on January 27, 2013 at 9:27 PM

gophergirl on January 27, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Yes it still going if you want to call it a thread..:)

Dire Straits on January 27, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Dire Straits on January 27, 2013 at 9:22 PM

I threw some cold water, whether it hit anyone is another question.

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Here’s the picture.

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Sad.

The person who shot the gun..
Was not the person who legally obtained the gun..

The libs don’t address this problem…
And how could they…
Via ObamaCare?

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Good grief. 1849 comments.

predator on January 27, 2013 at 9:27 PM

I’m sure some of the comments are similar to “I know you are but what am I”

Palin threads do not bring out the best of HA

gophergirl on January 27, 2013 at 9:29 PM

predator on January 27, 2013 at 9:25 PM

She’s kind of funny, she won’t try it again. The guys at the gun shop even suggested lighter load ammo but no dice. It’s not like she knocked on her butski or anything.

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Cindy, something worth looking at. Descent price point for a Sig.

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:29 PM

And how could they…
Via ObamaCare?

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:28 PM

By taking two of the Blue Pills

SWalker on January 27, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Not ZZ Top, but how ’bout Caballo Diablo?

predator on January 27, 2013 at 9:30 PM

@dire The Palin thread still on? Jeepers. Why can’t some folks just let go?

tommy71 on January 27, 2013 at 9:30 PM

How does Trig feel about it though?

Bmore

He’s busy wondering why Grandma pretends to be his mother. :)

xblade on January 27, 2013 at 9:30 PM

The Palin thread: 19 pages and counting.

It was at 7 pages when Friday’s QOTD came up.

22044 on January 27, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Still my favorite line from the march.

“The issue is guns. The Second Amendment gives us the right to own guns, but it’s not the right to own any gun,” she said. “These are assault weapons, made for killing people.”

Smart power on display.

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Palin threads do not bring out the best of HA

gophergirl on January 27, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Especially the longer they go on.

predator on January 27, 2013 at 9:32 PM

He’s busy wondering why Grandma pretends to be his mother. :)

xblade on January 27, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Oh, in other words you bought hook line and sinker the lefts point. Hmmm….

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:28 PM

The real crux of the matter is the mentally ill getting firearms. Have any of these shooters been playing with a full set of dishes? No. But between doctor patient privilege and not wanting doctors to have the wholesale power of deciding who can and can’t own a gun, we are right back where we started. What the real question is is why do we have to change everything for an anomaly?

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:33 PM

By taking two of the Blue Pills…

SWalker on January 27, 2013 at 9:30 PM

“Speaking as an American..
I thing that is what you want..”

There in lies the problem..

He is not an American.

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Actually should read the lefts attack point. But you knew that didn’t ya?

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Especially the longer they go on.

predator on January 27, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Exactly.

gophergirl on January 27, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Axe on January 27, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Where you debating on HA or another blog..:)

Dire Straits on January 27, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Hey, check out the Drudge picture that goes with Obama:’I GO SHOOTING ALL THE TIME’

What a hoot is this guy, Obama.

petefrt on January 27, 2013 at 9:34 PM

By taking two of the Blue Pills…

SWalker on January 27, 2013 at 9:30 PM

“Speaking as an American..
I thing that is what you want..”

There in lies the problem..

He is not an American.

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:33 PM

ROTFLMAO… Matrix reference… Look it up…;p

SWalker on January 27, 2013 at 9:34 PM

xblade on January 27, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Many of us are so proud of you.

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:29 PM

I will pass it on.

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:35 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAf3gqdCrDs

A touch of latin and british :-)

Scrumpy on January 27, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Haven’t seen a one..

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Spoke too soon?

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Canopfor oddly silent this weekend.

can_con on January 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Hey, check out the Drudge picture that goes with Obama:’I GO SHOOTING ALL THE TIME’

What a hoot is this guy, Obama.

petefrt on January 27, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Shooting baskets doesn’t count, Barrie.

predator on January 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Axe on January 27, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Where you debating on HA or another blog??..:)

Dire Straits on January 27, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Fixed..:)

Dire Straits on January 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM

P.S. Be glad to take it outside. Your choice.

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAf3gqdCrDs

A touch of latin and british :-)

Scrumpy on January 27, 2013 at 9:35 PM

does that make it Labrish?

SWalker on January 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM

I can already imagine AP deviously plotting a new Palin thread on a daily basis. Election time has passed, business is slow. The cha-ching needs to be refreshed.

tommy71 on January 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM

I can already imagine AP deviously plotting a new Palin thread on a daily basis. Election time has passed, business is slow. The cha-ching needs to be refreshed.

tommy71 on January 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM

If that becomes the norm around here – I will break my HA addiction pretty quick.

gophergirl on January 27, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Steve Kroft: This administration, I mean, you’ve generally gotten high marks. You’ve generally gotten very high marks, particularly from the voters for your handling of foreign policy. But there’s no big, singular achievement that– in the first four years– that you can put your names on. What do you think the biggest success has been, foreign policy success, of the first term?

President Obama: For us to be able to wind down one war, to be on the path of ending a second war, to do that in a way that honors the enormous sacrifices our troops have made, to sustain the pressure on al Qaeda and terrorist organizations so that not only did we avoid a significant terrorist attack on the homeland, but we’re able to dismantle the core leadership of al Qaeda. That’s all a consequence of the great work that Hillary did and her team did and the State Department did in conjunction with our national security team.

Aren’t embassies, consulates, and diplomatic missions considered inviolable, sovereign territory?

steebo77 on January 27, 2013 at 9:38 PM

What the real question is is why do we have to change everything for an anomaly?

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Because that anomaly get media attention..
But they have to act quickly before that new Bigger Badder Deal..

Global Warming with that new guy as Sec. Of State.. Kerry

The Libs control the narrative..

They are just not that good at it..

And We The People.. (the low info voters)

Stupid…

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:38 PM

SWalker on January 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Sure does :-)

Scrumpy on January 27, 2013 at 9:39 PM

can_con on January 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM

I hope maybe he’s busy with the grand babies.

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Scrumpy on January 27, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Nice! Glad you got to eat something.

KCB on January 27, 2013 at 9:39 PM

ROTFLMAO… Matrix reference… Look it up…;p

SWalker on January 27, 2013 at 9:34 PM

I have seen the movie… :)

It was the Obama inject that set me off..

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:40 PM

I threw some cold water, whether it hit anyone is another question.

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:27 PM

lolz..I hear you..I just saw a few that were going to email Ed & Allah everyday about that thread..That might not end well..:)

Dire Straits on January 27, 2013 at 9:40 PM

My fav beatle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3qx4RQotho

Scrumpy on January 27, 2013 at 9:41 PM

xblade, left you a message. Here.

Bmore on January 27, 2013 at 9:41 PM

In His Absence:

Illinois becomes 4th state to allow driver’s licenses for undocumented immigrants – @Reuters

http://news.yahoo.com/illinois-becomes-fourth-state-allow-drivers-licenses-undocumented-011755726.html

can_con on January 27, 2013 at 9:41 PM

can_con on January 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM

I hope maybe he’s busy with the grand babies.

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:39 PM

I agree..I bet that is what he is up to..:)

Dire Straits on January 27, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Canopfor oddly silent this weekend.

can_con on January 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Canada doesn’t have Obama…

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:38 PM

I wonder how people reacted back when the worst school massacre happened?

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Scrumpy ate the Chinese and the Indians. Asia has been effectively depopulated. ;-)

tommy71 on January 27, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Contrary to what most Conservatives think, Social Security was never intended to be a Ponzi Scheme, nor was it designed as a Ponzi Scheme.

“It is an axiom in the insurance business that insurance is not bought but sold. In 1935 Franklin Roosevelt sold Congress and Congress sold the U. S. the Social Security Act, the biggest, most comprehensive, most expensive mass insurance policy ever written. Since then its purchasers, the nation’s taxpayers, have had occasion to read their policy carefully and, if they have detected no outright jokers, their reaction has been such that practically every politician in the U. S. from Franklin Roosevelt down has put revision of Social Security at the top of his must list.”

- “Pie From The Sky,” Time Magazine, 13 February 1939

“I guess you’re right on the economics. They are politics all the way through. We put those pay roll contributions there so as to give the contributors a legal, moral, and political right to collect their pensions and their unemployment benefits. With those taxes in there, no damn politician can ever scrap my social security program. Those taxes aren’t a matter of economics, they’re straight politics.”

- Franklin Delano Roosevelt, according to Luther Gulick Memorandum documenting Conference on Social Security, 1941

“First, noncontributory old-age pensions for those who are now too old to build up their own insurance. IT IS, OF COURSE, CLEAR THAT FOR PERHAPS 30 YEARS TO COME funds will have to be provided by the States and the Federal Government to meet these pensions.”

- Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 1935

“Obviously the government cannot pay adequate pensions if it insists on ‘borrowing’ most of the old age taxes and spending them to support the government. The whole thing is a disguised tax levied upon the lowest income groups under the pretense of old age pension premiums. No government would dare support itself out of a payroll tax if it honestly proclaimed its purpose . .”

– John T. Flynn, Liberal Economist, The Social Security “Reserve” Swindle, Harper’s Magazine, February 1939

“Lies” About Social Security and Medicare Pandering Politicians Never Told You

M2RB: Bob Dylan, live

Resist We Much on January 27, 2013 at 9:42 PM

President Obama: [...] That’s all a consequence of the great work that Hillary did and her team did and the State Department did in conjunction with our national security team.

Steve Kroft: What’s the, I have to ask you, what’s the date of expiration on this endorsement?

Secretary Clinton: Oh, Steve, what– you know–

Steve Kroft: No, no, I have to ask that question. I mean, come on. You’re– I mean, you’re sitting here together. Everybody in town is talking about it already and the inter– and this is– it’s taking place.

President Obama: You know, Steve, I gotta tell you, the– you guys in the press are incorrigible. I was literally inaugurated four days ago. And you’re talking about elections four years from now.

Secretary Clinton: Yeah, and I am, as you know, Steve, I am still secretary of state. So I’m out of politics. And I’m forbidden from even hearing these questions. I think that, you know, look, obviously the president and I care deeply about what’s going to happen for our country in the future. And I don’t think, you know, either he or I can make predictions about what’s going to happen tomorrow or the next year. What we’ve tried to do over the last four years is get up every day, have a clear-eyed view of what’s going on in the world. And I’m really proud of where we are.

So basically, no news on the “is she/isn’t she” and “will he/won’t he” fronts.

steebo77 on January 27, 2013 at 9:42 PM

I can already imagine AP deviously plotting a new Palin thread on a daily basis. Election time has passed, business is slow. The cha-ching needs to be refreshed.

tommy71 on January 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM

I will start calling this blog Hot Palin Air if he does that.

22044 on January 27, 2013 at 9:43 PM

tommy71 on January 27, 2013 at 9:41 PM

hahahahahahaha… I needed that!

Scrumpy on January 27, 2013 at 9:43 PM

I wonder how people reacted back when the worst school massacre happened?

Cindy Munford on January 27, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Very interesting..

1927..

Explosives..

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:45 PM

tommy71 on January 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM

If she make nws I am sure one of them will post about it..But threads are not rated ($$$) on comments..They are rated on views…Sojust because a thread has alot of coments des not mean it has had the same number of views..:)

Dire Straits on January 27, 2013 at 9:45 PM

My friendly Public Service Announcement (even to USC):

Before You Say “Charge It!” Read This…

Resist We Much on January 27, 2013 at 9:46 PM

The Senate proposal will probably include four main elements: border enforcement,

LOL. You can’t “enforce” the virtual border of visa overstays without actually doing the work of interior enforcement, which is what it all comes down to and what the idiots, traitors and criminals in the Senate refuse to even consider … the fvckers.

employer enforcement,

It isn’t an employer’s job to enforce American law. In fact, Barky and his treasonous junta allied with invading nation Mexico to sue Arizona so that the state would NOT be allowed to enforce American law. And now they want enforcement to come down on the employers? What a friggin joke. It’s the feral government’s job to keep the borders secure and to actually carry out interior enforcement. This cr@p about employers is counter-productive and nothing but the feral government abdicating its own responsibilities and trying to make criminals out of American businesses.

handling the future flow of legal immigration (including temporary agriculture workers and high-skilled engineers)

LOL.

and a pathway to citizenship for those who entered the nation illegally. Mr. Obama’s approach will largely echo his 2011 immigration “blueprint,” which he first outlined in a speech in El Paso, and calls for a pathway to citizenship for the more than 11 million illegal immigrants already in the country.

A panoply of un-Constitutionality and treason – colluding with an ineligible imbecile who aspires to be the reincarnation of Sukarno in America. Great …

They should all go straight to hell.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 27, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Canopfor oddly silent this weekend.

can_con on January 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Canada doesn’t have Obama…

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:41 PM

rofl..Good one..:)

PS..*clink*..

Dire Straits on January 27, 2013 at 9:47 PM

For Senator DiFi. Shotgun!

predator on January 27, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Very interesting..

1927..

Explosives..

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:45 PM

And the second worse was by fire, I believe.

predator on January 27, 2013 at 9:49 PM

@dire k, I get it now. Thanks for the info. In that case, AP the atheist, is in church right now with sackcloth, ashes, gnashing of teeth, fasting yada yada yada begging that Palin makes news atleast thrice a week. ;-)

tommy71 on January 27, 2013 at 9:49 PM

Canada doesn’t have Obama…

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Ontario, Canada, elects its first female and openly gay leader – @CP24

http://www.cp24.com/news/kathleen-wynne-to-become-ontario-s-first-female-and-openly-gay-premier-1.1130535

No but we have Justin Trudeau.

can_con on January 27, 2013 at 9:49 PM

Canopfor oddly silent this weekend.

can_con on January 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Canada doesn’t have Obama…

Electrongod on January 27, 2013 at 9:41 PM

rofl..Good one..:)

PS..*clink*..

Dire Straits on January 27, 2013 at 9:47 PM

That was good!
I think he was on the Sunday morning thread. Briefly perhaps. :)

22044 on January 27, 2013 at 9:49 PM

Where you debating on HA or another blog??..:)

Dire Straits on January 27, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Hm. I think that question might have a tinge of smart-assedness to it. :) — Maybe not, maybe not. Either way, Dire, my friend Dire Straits . . . now that I’m forced to think about it, I think I find the interesting threads, tab them out, and then forget to check the blog again.

Heh. I didn’t know I did that.

O, but yeah, speaking of which, I’ve been trying to support the colonists lately. Got to disagree with Howard, so there’s that.

http://libertyunyielding.com/

Axe on January 27, 2013 at 9:50 PM

Illinois becomes 4th state to allow driver’s licenses for undocumented immigrants – @Reuters

http://news.yahoo.com/illinois-becomes-fourth-state-allow-drivers-licenses-undocumented-011755726.html

can_con on January 27, 2013 at 9:41 PM

It;s also become the state rated #50 (credit rating) by Standard & Poor’s:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-01-25/news/chi-illinois-credit-rating-sinks-to-worst-in-nation-20130125_1_action-on-pension-reform-robin-prunty-illinois-credit

bw222 on January 27, 2013 at 9:50 PM

They fear alienating a growing bloc of Latino voters whose opposition could force the party into a permanent minority status.

If they’re illegal aliens, they aren’t supposed to be voting, anyway.

If they’re on a “pathway to citizenship”, they cannot vote until they’re sworn in as citizens. That should be seven years from the start of their “pathway”.

Solaratov on January 27, 2013 at 9:50 PM

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