Video: Milwaukee County sheriff’s PSA on self-protection

posted at 10:01 am on January 26, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

One rule of thumb when hosting a radio talk show: don’t bring an audio clip on the air “cold,” i.e., without having heard it yourself.  That’s probably especially true when you’re guest-hosting for a good friend and mentor.  However, after Hot Air reader Tim R sent this to me near the end of the first hour of last night’s Hugh Hewitt show, I asked Duane “Generalissimo” Patterson to check it out for hour two as I was wrapping up an interview with John Eastman on the recess-appointment ruling.  In the break, I asked, “Can we use that?”  Duane answered, “Oh, hell yes.”

The sheriff of Milwaukee County, Wisconsin has a new public-service announcement on radio on protecting yourself, and it’s causing quite a stir in the community:

In the PSA, Sheriff David Clarke says, “With officers laid off and furloughed, simply calling 911 and waiting is no longer your best option. You could beg for mercy from a violent criminal, hide under the bed, or you can fight back. But are you prepared?”

 “You have a duty to protect yourself and your family. We’re partners now. Can I count on you?”

Sounds pretty straightforward and honest.  The police and sheriff’s deputies can’t arrive instantaneously to rescue citizens from every or even many violent crimes, and so it’s incumbent on people to learn to defense themselves.  The Fox affiliate leaves out a very important part of the PSA, though, which the Journal Sentinel at least mentions:

Clarke urges listeners to take a firearm safety course and handle a firearm “so you can defend yourself until we get there.”

Yes, instead of either cowering under the bed or buying a weapon and shooting wildly, Sheriff Clarke wants citizens to receive proper instruction in self-defense — which includes learning how to handle a weapon as well as the proper uses and legal limitations of self-defense.  These courses instill discipline and self-control, as well as prepare people for the unlikely-but-still-possible situation where they may be the only defense they have against a violent criminal.

Of course, that produced the usual hysteria:

“If he does not feel he is capable of  doing this, and he’s not qualified to take on this role of public safety, he should resign and he should do it today,” said Jeri Bonavia of the non-profit Wisconsin Anti-violence Effort.

Bonavia says Clarke is asking citizens to become vigilantes.

“To issue a blanket statement that people should be out there, arming up, and taking care of safety matters that really law enforcement officials are trained to do, is just irresponsible,” said Bonavia.

The office of Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett said in a statement: “Apparently Sheriff David Clark (sp) is auditioning for the next Dirty Harry movie.”

Apparently, Barrett never watched the Dirty Harry movies, only one of which was about a vigilante (Sudden Impact, the worst of the series), and none of which had citizens acting in true self-defense.  Dirty Harry wasn’t about citizen vigilantes; it was about a sworn peace officer who used excessive force to deliver his own brand of justice.  In fact, Sheriff Clarke is warning his community that it’s impossible for police to rescue all the citizens from violent criminals, as Clint Eastwood manages to do in the film series, and that it’s their responsibility to learn how to defend themselves.

There’s a lot of irresponsibility in Milwaukee County, but it’s not coming from Sheriff Clarke.

Update: Fixed the headline — it’s Milwaukee County, not Milwaukee Country.

Update II: I messed up the video code when I added the first update. It’s now fixed.


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…the Dirty Harry movies, only one of which was about a vigilante (Sudden Impact, the worst of the series),

But it did have the coolest gun.

cozmo on January 26, 2013 at 10:06 AM

“Can I count on you?”

Yes…

WhoU4 on January 26, 2013 at 10:07 AM

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.

tru2tx on January 26, 2013 at 10:10 AM

My northern neighbors… And this is in Milwaukee, not some rural area. Again, I remain convinced it is a great idea for Chicago politicians to go into WI and demand that they start banning guns. I think it would be neat-o for the Republicans to finally win Wisconsin.

Illinidiva on January 26, 2013 at 10:11 AM

“With officers laid off and furloughed, simply calling 911 and waiting is no longer your best option.

He should have said it isn’t and never has been the best option, and his mention of layoffs suggests another agenda. The reaction is stupid and divorced from reality, but I’m not crazy about the words he chose.

RadClown on January 26, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Reality and practical solutions are NEVER an option for the “you can only be a helpless victim” liberals.

PolAgnostic on January 26, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Clarke is a good guy. Hes trying to do in Milwaukee county what needs to be done the best he can with what little co-op he gets due the idiot liberals in the area that run things.

IMO, Milwaukee county is a Sh&thole right now and anyone in the right minds would have GTHO of there a long while ago. Its the mini version of California in WI. Mr Barrett thinks its an awesome idea to build a trolly that no one will ride. Thats right, a trolly.

watertown on January 26, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Clarke is a good guy. Hes trying to do in Milwaukee county what needs to be done the best he can with what little co-op he gets due the idiot liberals in the area that run things.

watertown on January 26, 2013 at 10:14 AM

He ain’t the only one in that scenario by a long shot. Liberalism is hamstringing LEO’s all over the nation. Best of luck to him.

MelonCollie on January 26, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Yes, instead of either cowering under the bed or buying a weapon and shooting wildly, Sheriff Clarke wants citizens to receive proper instruction in self-defense — which includes learning how to handle a weapon as well as the proper uses and legal limitations of self-defense. These courses instill discipline and self-control, as well as prepare people for the unlikely-but-still-possible situation where they may be the only defense they have against a violent criminal.

How is this a bad thing? How can anybody argue this is asking people to be vigilantes? What a bizarro world we live in.

Ditkaca on January 26, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Racis…ohhh….sorry.

That instructor needs to do better at teaching form, at 1:54 in the vid that dude in the black shirt has the worst shooting form I’ve ever seen; he looks like he’s trying to fart before pulling the trigger.

Bishop on January 26, 2013 at 10:21 AM

I don’t know Ed, I think “Magnum Force” certainly had a vigilante theme, even if it was policemen. Anyway, as for leaving off the safety class, I would think that goes without saying but then I have seen the press and know better.

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 10:21 AM

“If he does not feel he is capable of doing this, and he’s not qualified to take on this role of public safety, he should resign and he should do it today,” said Jeri Bonavia of the non-profit Wisconsin Anti-violence Effort.

If she’s so anti-violence, how about she and a gaggle of her crew go into some bad neighborhoods and preach their message? If something happens, she can call police. Assuming her cell isn’t taken first.

Liam on January 26, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Given that in 2005 the Supreme Court ruled that police are not obligated under the constitution to protect citizens from harm…I’d say that Clarke is being honest and commonsensical.

workingclass artist on January 26, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Longtime Leftist David Mamet writes this week:

The Left loves a phantom statistic that a firearm in the hands of a citizen is X times more likely to cause accidental damage than to be used in the prevention of crime, but what is there about criminals that ensures that their gun use is accident-free? If, indeed, a firearm were more dangerous to its possessors than to potential aggressors, would it not make sense for the government to arm all criminals, and let them accidentally shoot themselves? Is this absurd? Yes, and yet the government, of course, is arming criminals.

Violence by firearms is most prevalent in big cities with the strictest gun laws. In Chicago and Washington, D.C., for example, it is only the criminals who have guns, the law-abiding populace having been disarmed, and so crime runs riot.

-snip-

The police do not exist to protect the individual. They exist to cordon off the crime scene and attempt to apprehend the criminal. We individuals are guaranteed by the Constitution the right to self-defense. This right is not the Government’s to “award” us. They have never been granted it.

-snip-

The individual is not only best qualified to provide his own personal defense, he is the only one qualified to do so: and his right to do so is guaranteed by the Constitution.

President Obama seems to understand the Constitution as a “set of suggestions.” I cannot endorse his performance in office, but he wins my respect for taking those steps he deems necessary to ensure the safety of his family. Why would he want to prohibit me from doing the same?

The entire thing is well worth a read.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2013/01/28/gun-laws-and-the-fools-of-chelm-by-david-mamet.html

Del Dolemonte on January 26, 2013 at 10:25 AM

You can certainly make the point that he’s arguing for more cops, which is his right and obligation as a county sheriff. But he’s certainly picking a common sense manner to portray it, and one that rings true with America and citizen values of personal responsibility and duties to protect self and property. I like it.

Sgt Steve on January 26, 2013 at 10:25 AM

I don’t think these people know what vigilante means.

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Charles Bronson’s Death Wish movies would make more sense.

Flange on January 26, 2013 at 10:28 AM

IMO, Milwaukee county is a Sh&thole right now and anyone in the right minds would have GTHO of there a long while ago. Its the mini version of California in WI. Mr Barrett thinks its an awesome idea to build a trolly that no one will ride. Thats right, a trolly.

watertown on January 26, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Is Barrett going to run against Walker for a third time in a few years??

Illinidiva on January 26, 2013 at 10:29 AM

If you read behind the lines what this man wants is to turn the country into a cross between Mad Max and Mississippi Burning. The fact that he is wearing blackface just shows how low the Tea Party will go.

/MSNBC

CorporatePiggy on January 26, 2013 at 10:31 AM

I don’t think these people know what vigilante means.

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 10:25 AM

They don’t. A vigilante is Paul Kersey from the movie Death Wish, where he went out to target criminals. Defending oneself, family, and property, on said property, is not vigilantism.

Liberals think only in catchwords and cliches–a narrow vision. I guess that’s easy when said liberal lives safe and sound, protected by others.

Liam on January 26, 2013 at 10:31 AM

I don’t think these people know what vigilante means.

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 10:25 AM

For a good many liberals, wailing about ‘vigilante justice’ really means something like they’re having bad dreams about being dragged screaming from updating their communist blog, found guilty as hell of treason, and tied to a raft pointed toward Cuba. Or for one of a hundred other despicable things leftists do – imagine how abortionists would’ve been dealt with back then.

Liberals are cowards to the core, and even the slightest hint of something that might possibly lead to them not being able to hide from justice behind weasel lawyers and activist judges and moonbat groups like the ACLU absolutely scares the muffins out of them.

MelonCollie on January 26, 2013 at 10:33 AM

sesquipedalian on January 25, 2013 at 10:02 PM

Is it FAIR to punish 120 Million innocent people for the actions of one lunatic?

Galt2009 on January 26, 2013 at 10:33 AM

It’s 3AM, someone breaks in.

Would you rather wait a Lifetime for the police to pick up your body Or would you rather defend yourself?

Galt2009 on January 26, 2013 at 10:35 AM

The Fox affiliate leaves out a very important part of the PSA, though

…is the left shouting “FOX NEWS LIES!” ?

KOOLAID2 on January 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Is it FAIR to punish 120 Million innocent people for the actions of one lunatic?

Galt2009 on January 26, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Yes! If it saves just one child’s life it’s worth it

Ditkaca on January 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM

said Jeri Bonavia of the non-profit Wisconsin Anti-violence Effort.

Take a lead, Jeri, and proudly put a giant sign in your yard which says “Gun Free Zone”.

Wassat? What? You’re afraid your sprinkler system lines might get damaged by the signpost so no thanks? Huh.

Bishop on January 26, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Is it FAIR to punish 120 Million innocent people for the actions of one lunatic?

Galt2009 on January 26, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Yes! If it saves just one child’s life it’s worth it

Ditkaca on January 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM

…no sarc tag Ditzcaca ?

KOOLAID2 on January 26, 2013 at 10:39 AM

It’s 3AM, someone breaks in.

Would you rather wait a Lifetime for the police to pick up your body Or would you rather defend yourself?

Galt2009 on January 26, 2013 at 10:35 AM

You’re not really expecting an answer, are you?

Liam on January 26, 2013 at 10:40 AM

The court has ruled that police do not have a constitutional duty to protect anyone.

And liberals want to remove methods of self-defense.

HondaV65 on January 26, 2013 at 10:41 AM

…no sarc tag Ditzcaca ?

KOOLAID2 on January 26, 2013 at 10:39 AM

didn’t think the tag was necessary

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Ditkaca on January 26, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Yes! If it saves just one child’s life it’s worth it

Ditkaca on January 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Gun free zones endanger more than one child.

Fallon on January 26, 2013 at 10:42 AM

It’s 3AM, someone breaks in.

Would you rather wait a Lifetime for the police to pick up your body Or would you rather defend yourself?

Galt2009 on January 26, 2013 at 10:35 AM

I would yell “HALT! This is a gun and crime free zone! Please stop your actions as I am making a citizen’s arrest! You will wait quietly while I notify the proper authorities.”

Then I would discuss with the intruder the socioeconomic conditions created by Republicans which caused him to invade my house, and we would maybe have a cup of coffee. Later I would adopt him as my own son and teach him to sell balloons.

Bishop on January 26, 2013 at 10:43 AM

A vigilante is Paul Kersey from the movie Death Wish, where he went out to target criminals. Defending oneself, family, and property, on said property, is not vigilantism.

Liberals think only in catchwords and cliches–a narrow vision. I guess that’s easy when said liberal lives safe and sound, protected by others.

Liam on January 26, 2013 at 10:31 AM

To be fair, the very first Death Wish film starts with Kersey’s family being attacked in their home. In DW 2, Kersey himself is attacked in his home at the start of the film, and in DW 3, the film ends when Kersey is once again attacked in his home, this time by the punk guy, who Kersey blows up real good with his M72 rocket launcher. So his vigilantism is in fact based partially on his being attacked in his home.

Del Dolemonte on January 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM

Yes! If it saves just one child’s life it’s worth it //////

Ditkaca on January 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM

I don’t think these people know what vigilante means.

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 10:25 AM

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Nah… I heard it. He said ‘time to go out and hunt down potential jaywalkers’/
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Clarke urges listeners to take a firearm safety course and handle a firearm “so you can defend yourself until we get there.”

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Which will often mean calling back with a body count and describing the getaway car that is probably headed to the hospital….

RalphyBoy on January 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM

Ditkaca on January 26, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Always, without exception, use a /sarc tag. This is a political forum on the Internet; intent can be hard to read.

I’ve accidentally set off at least one flamefest that was like “WTF was that about?” when I forgot a /sarc tag.

MelonCollie on January 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM

In fact, Sheriff Clarke is warning his community that it’s impossible for police to rescue all the citizens from violent criminals, as Clint Eastwood manages to do in the film series, and that it’s their responsibility to learn how to defend themselves.

Have you watched the Dirty Harry movies? Callahan’s success rate in rescuing citizens is abysmal. It was his success rate in killing criminals that was good.

It would be great to see Sheriff Clarke respond to the gun control nuts by saying, “Ignore them, they aren’t concerned about your welfare.”

It would also be nice to see the Sheriff’s Office produce a pamphlet with some summary information of the Office’s view of what they need to do to prepare.

Dusty on January 26, 2013 at 10:45 AM

The truth hurts.

trigon on January 26, 2013 at 10:46 AM

I apologize for the confusion….I just thought the comment was so far over the top that it didn’t require a tag.

I do not post much so my positions are not clear.

I promise to use a /sarc tag in the future

Ditkaca on January 26, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Just remember, its the liberal ideology that suggested women should not fight back when being raped, and went further to suggest that they might enjoy it.

At least the libs are consistent. Now they suggest you rollover when any personal crime is being committed against you.

I’d just like to point out that theory is supported by the Christian Bible, where one is instructed to turn the other cheek. Can we now assume that the liberal ideology is really based on a set of rules they publicly denounce and reject?

I can only laugh at and pity them at the same time.

BobMbx on January 26, 2013 at 10:50 AM

“To issue a blanket statement that people should be out there, arming up, and taking care of safety matters that really law enforcement officials are trained to do, is just irresponsible,” said Bonavia.

Translation: To say that people should take responsibility for themselves as a first resort is a promotion of individualism and a threat to government power. There’s never a reason not to depend on government, even if it means losing your life.

RadClown on January 26, 2013 at 10:50 AM

No! You MUST cower. You MUST supplicate. ONLY the State can save you.

Re-reading Orwell’s essay “The Lion and the Unicorn.” Great stuff. He doesn’t like pacifists.

rrpjr on January 26, 2013 at 10:51 AM

I apologize for the confusion….I just thought the comment was so far over the top that it didn’t require a tag.

I do not post much so my positions are not clear.

I promise to use a /sarc tag in the future

Ditkaca on January 26, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Now go get everybody some popcorn!
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VegasRick on January 26, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Is it FAIR to punish 120 Million innocent people for the actions of one lunatic?

Galt2009 on January 26, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Yes! If it saves just one child’s life it’s worth it

Ditkaca on January 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM

…no sarc tag Ditzcaca ?

KOOLAID2 on January 26, 2013 at 10:39 AM

I think that was implied.

Galt2009 on January 26, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Del Dolemonte on January 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM

I saw only the first one, and recall the attack on his wife and daughter as what triggered him; he was really after the ones who did that. The rest were collateral damage, so to speak. I also recall a news report in the movie saying crime in Central Park was almost zero after Kersey got started.

But liberals call it vigilantism when a person retains right to defend what is properly theirs, even if at home.

As Cindy said, they have no idea the meaning of the word.

Liam on January 26, 2013 at 10:52 AM

“With officers laid off and furloughed, simply calling 911 and waiting is no longer your best option.

He should have said it isn’t and never has been the best option, and his mention of layoffs suggests another agenda. The reaction is stupid and divorced from reality, but I’m not crazy about the words he chose.

RadClown on January 26, 2013 at 10:12 AM

My first thought .

In general the job of an officer in these type of situations is to respond, take a report , and clean up.

CW on January 26, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Liberals always have a problem with reality …. whats the old saying …when seconds matter the police are just minutes away but liberals insist on living in the world not as it is but as they wish it where …..and dragging those of us who know better into their idiocy as well. I saw this somewhere and thought this sums up liberal stupid nicely …. ” the problem with arguing with idiots is they drag you down to their level ….. then they beat you with experience

Aggie95 on January 26, 2013 at 10:53 AM

tru2tx on January 26, 2013 at 10:10 AM

In my case the deputy sheriffs will most likely be hours away. Large rural county with few deputies.

Yes! If it saves just one child’s life it’s worth it

Ditkaca on January 26, 2013 at 10:36 AM

In that case they should also be for banning multistory buildings, cars, school buses, swimming pools and _________ (feel free to add to the list of things that kill children).

chemman on January 26, 2013 at 10:53 AM

It’s worth repeating–it took authorities in Newtown 20 minutes to arrive….

hillsoftx on January 26, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Ditkaca on January 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM

It is no failure to forget to use a sarc tag, in fact an otherwise dreary thread can be enlivened by outraged retorts to such comments.

Bishop on January 26, 2013 at 10:54 AM

“With officers laid off and furloughed, simply calling 911 and waiting is no longer your best option.

If emergency response was effective in stopping a criminal act, we wouldn’t need very many detectives, would we?

BobMbx on January 26, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Remember the Dave Clark five? I say let’s give this Dave Clarke a high five.

radjah shelduck on January 26, 2013 at 10:54 AM

It’s 3AM, someone breaks in.

Would you rather wait a Lifetime for the police to pick up your body Or would you rather defend yourself?

Galt2009 on January 26, 2013 at 10:35 AM

I would yell “HALT! This is a gun and crime free zone! Please stop your actions as I am making a citizen’s arrest! You will wait quietly while I notify the proper authorities.”

Then I would discuss with the intruder the socioeconomic conditions created by Republicans which caused him to invade my house, and we would maybe have a cup of coffee. Later I would adopt him as my own son and teach him to sell balloons.

Bishop on January 26, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Bloomberg attack safety tips
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/382906_10151210823092939_879765881_n.png

Make your own Gun Free Zone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhgzcioPet8&feature=player_detailpage

Those items are hilarious because the oppressives actually believe that would work.

Galt2009 on January 26, 2013 at 10:55 AM

In the 15 minutes it takes for an officer to respond how many times can a killer reload his gun with his now 7 bullet magazine?

/

Also, if a good guy is the only one respecting the law and he does have to reload and the bad guy doesn’t who does this law(NY) really hurt?

CW on January 26, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Is Barrett going to run against Walker for a third time in a few years??

Illinidiva on January 26, 2013 at 10:29 AM

No, Barrett has hi Mayor job for life although I wish Clark would run against him. He’s the only Democrat I’ve ever voted for and I’d vote for him for Mayor. As far as I concerned, Clark is a DINO. He knows he could never get elected in Milwaukee with an R behind his name.

We’ll probably see ole Russ Feingold run against Walker(God help us).

WisRich on January 26, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Now go get everybody some popcorn!
/

VegasRick on January 26, 2013 at 10:51 A

Yeah, and no salt. Oh, I don’t like margarine. And make sure the corn isn’t from genetically modified grain, and the box is from at least 80% recycled paper content.

BobMbx on January 26, 2013 at 10:57 AM

“With officers laid off and furloughed, simply calling 911 and waiting is no longer your best option. You could beg for mercy from a violent criminal, hide under the bed, or you can fight back. But are you prepared?”

That was never your best option. It was always meant to be a clean up operation.

astonerii on January 26, 2013 at 10:57 AM

It is no failure to forget to use a sarc tag, in fact an otherwise dreary thread can be enlivened by outraged retorts to such comments.

Bishop on January 26, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Fishing is banned here at Hot Gas. I’m reporting you to the moderators!

VegasRick on January 26, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Relying on police that have no duty to protect you or even respond to your pleas doesn’t sound smart to me.

besser tot als rot on January 26, 2013 at 10:57 AM

“If he does not feel he is capable of doing this, and he’s not qualified to take on this role of public safety, he should resign and he should do it today,” said Jeri Bonavia of the non-profit Wisconsin Anti-violence Effort.

Sheriff Clarke, by telling his citizens that they need to learn to defend themselves, is showing he’s finally qualified and fully capable to do his job.

Dusty on January 26, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Has anybody in our great and omniscient news media ever reported that Barack Obama was a director for the Joyce Foundation one of whose whose expressed goals is the end of the 2nd Amendment?

rrpjr on January 26, 2013 at 10:58 AM


sesquipedalian on January 25, 2013 at 10:02 PM

Is it FAIR to punish 120 Million innocent people for the actions of one lunatic?

Galt2009 on January 26, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Proggies’ Old & Busted:

“It is far better that one thousand guilty persons go free than one innocent suffer.”

Proggies’ New Hotness:

“It is far better that 100+ million law-abiding citizens lose their Second Amendment rights than for one criminal to get his hands on a gun.”

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Another important point, one I think is the crux of it all, is that Sheriff Clarke is also saying to get training in handling a firearm and in the law. He obviously doesn’t want people going nuts. He wants them responsible in all facets of the matter of self-defense.

A cool head with this man.

Liam on January 26, 2013 at 10:59 AM

To issue a blanket statement that people should be out there, arming up, and taking care of safety matters that really law enforcement officials are trained to do, is just irresponsible,” said Bonavia.

Translation: To say that people should take responsibility for themselves as a first resort is a promotion of individualism and a threat to government power. There’s never a reason not to depend on government, even if it means losing your life.

RadClown on January 26, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Guns: The gateway drug to liberty

Galt2009 on January 26, 2013 at 10:59 AM

….I just thought the comment was so far over the top that it didn’t require a tag.

Ditkaca on January 26, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Only low information readers need sarc tags.

cozmo on January 26, 2013 at 11:00 AM

chemman on January 26, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Wouldn’t it be easier to just ban children?

Flange on January 26, 2013 at 11:00 AM

I’d just like to point out that theory is supported by the Christian Bible, where one is instructed to turn the other cheek. Can we now assume that the liberal ideology is really based on a set of rules they publicly denounce and reject?

I can only laugh at and pity them at the same time.

BobMbx on January 26, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Turning the other cheek isn’t about self defense. Jesus actually ordered his disciples to get swords. Turning the other cheek is about how I respond to you in the day to day living situations. Like if you rip me a new a**hole on this site I am not to return the favor. In this case it would help if you actually knew what you were talking about.

chemman on January 26, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Guns: The gateway drug to liberty

Galt2009 on January 26, 2013 at 10:59 AM

That should be a bumper sticker. Maybe it already is.

rrpjr on January 26, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Flange on January 26, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Well they are trying to go there with their inane ideas that humans are parasites on mother gaia.

chemman on January 26, 2013 at 11:02 AM

chemman on January 26, 2013 at 11:01 AM

There’s a Western series written by a Christian author who has absolutely no truck with cowardice or pacifism at all. Criminals get shot by the score, and the totally-uncensored scene of a convicted murderer being taken out and duly hung is grimly moving.

I think earlier in the same book that scene is in, one young woman absolutely schools another on the subject of ‘turning the other cheek’, showing chapter and verse where it is the Christian duty to punish criminals and not be limp-wristed about it.

GREAT series.

MelonCollie on January 26, 2013 at 11:04 AM

“If he does not feel he is capable of doing this, and he’s not qualified to take on this role of public safety, he should resign and he should do it today,” said Jeri Bonavia of the non-profit Wisconsin Anti-violence Effort.

Will his successor have a bigger budget? Maybe he can tax the 1% of Milwaukee.

HitNRun on January 26, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Where are you guys getting sesquid’s comment from? Did he get banned?

nobar on January 26, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Has anybody in our great and omniscient news media ever reported that Barack Obama was a director for the Joyce Foundation one of whose whose expressed goals is the end of the 2nd Amendment?

rrpjr on January 26, 2013 at 10:58 AM

What difference does it make?

Oh, and…. /

Drained Brain on January 26, 2013 at 11:09 AM

nobar on January 26, 2013 at 11:07 AM

I haven’t checked but this was probably in the Headlines section first and the comment comes from there.

chemman on January 26, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Is it FAIR to punish 120 Million innocent people for the actions of one lunatic?

Galt2009 on January 26, 2013 at 10:33 AM

And, remember that Proggies only hate “collective punishment” when it comes to Israelis returning fire on Palestinians after being hit with 1,000 rockets.

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 11:10 AM

“If he does not feel he is capable of doing this, and he’s not qualified to take on this role of public safety, he should resign and he should do it today,” said Jeri Bonavia of the non-profit Wisconsin Anti-violence Effort.

What an idiot. The SCOTUS ruled that states have no responsibility to provide police services to anyone. Period. End of story.

And for anyone who didn’t understand this, we just had the glaring example of Sooper-Dooper Storm Sandy and people being left with nothing to fend for themselves and protect themselves and their property. The local, state and feral governments proved themselves totally incompetent in that event – whether they wanted to stop providing services or not – and that should have alerted everyone that, when it comes down to it, you are really on your own – as the SCOTUS rightly pointed out.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 26, 2013 at 11:10 AM

MelonCollie on January 26, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Yep.

chemman on January 26, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Many Americans are unaware that the sheriff is the one elected official that has authority to trump federal power. This will be an increasingly important role as the feds continue to wipe their behinds with the constitution. The Sherriff will be the only person that can stand between the feds and the takeover of our country.

Some jurisdictions are already proposing legislation that states that any fed that comes in and enforces federal laws against the sheriffs wishes will be subject to automatic arrest and jail time. It’s a serious matter. This will come into play soon when the kenyan issues an executive order banning 30 round magazines and mandatory registration. Many sherrifs will not enforce that and will not allow the feds or the military to enforce it. It will work it’s way through the courts but expect that bloodshed will occur long before it gets decided. The deputies that work for socialist sherrifs will be in a very precarious position.

This sheriff appears to be one of the good guys. You should probably know where you sheriff stands before this stuff goes down. Many are already stating their positions publicly don’t be afraid to ask yours.

acyl72 on January 26, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Has anybody in our great and omniscient news media ever reported that Barack Obama was a director for the Joyce Foundation one of whose whose expressed goals is the end of the 2nd Amendment?

rrpjr on January 26, 2013 at 10:58 AM

What difference does it make?

Oh, and…. /

Drained Brain on January 26, 2013 at 11:09 AM

No, but we do know all about Seamus the dog and that romney bullied someone in junior high school. That’s obviously a whole lot more important.

acyl72 on January 26, 2013 at 11:16 AM

Gun owners are the best source for criminals to obtain firearms. Also, taking firearms from gun owners doesn’t require any background checks, and often times the criminal gets free ammo (etc) and cash.

Karmi on January 26, 2013 at 11:23 AM

RadClown on January 26, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Agree.

How can anybody argue this is asking people to be vigilantes?

Ditkaca on January 26, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Because they don’t even know what that word means. Like most emotionally-argued progressive viewpoints, they don’t care about the definition of the words they use – just so long as they’re scary and, well, emotionally-charged.

and teach him to sell balloons.

Bishop on January 26, 2013 at 10:43 AM

Would you change his name to Jesus?

Have you watched the Dirty Harry movies? Callahan’s success rate in rescuing citizens is abysmal. It was his success rate in killing criminals that was good.

Dusty on January 26, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Exactly. Dirty Harry is a good example of why you can’t rely on the police to protect you. Avenge you, maybe, but not protect.

Translation: To say that people should take responsibility for themselves as a first resort is a promotion of individualism and a threat to government power. There’s never a reason not to depend on government, even if it means losing your life.

RadClown on January 26, 2013 at 10:50 AM

The difference between a citizen (who is sovereign in himself) and a subject (who only exists because of the benevolence of their liege).

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Nicely put!

MelonCollie on January 26, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Well, fer cryin’ out loud, man, give us the author’s name! Don’t just leave us hangin’!

GWB on January 26, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Gun owners are the best source for criminals to obtain firearms. Also, taking firearms from gun owners doesn’t require any background checks, and often times the criminal gets free ammo (etc) and cash.

Karmi on January 26, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Good thing the criminals don’t know where the gun owners live.

….Oh wait

Ditkaca on January 26, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Where are you guys getting sesquid’s comment from? Did he get banned?

nobar on January 26, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Those probably came from yesterday’s Piers Morgan/Newt Gingrich gun thread. It was on the main page and is now on the left side partway down.

Del Dolemonte on January 26, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Jeri Bonavia is with Wisconsin Anti-Violence.
Wisconsin Anti-Violence Effort Educational Fund describes itself as the “only statewide grassroots organization solely dedicated to reducing gun violence, injuries and deaths.”
Since it has failed miserably, and she’s not qualified to take on this role of public safety, she should resign and she should do it today.
And notably this organization and Jeri have been found guilty of using false information and misleading statistics. Why do the left insist on using fake data and lying at every chance?

pat on January 26, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Well, fer cryin’ out loud, man, give us the author’s name! Don’t just leave us hangin’!

GWB on January 26, 2013 at 11:25 AM

I was trying! My Google-fu was failing me until just now!

Author is Al Lacy, main character is John “The Stranger” Brockman.

Have to shove I’m afraid, work calls!

MelonCollie on January 26, 2013 at 11:32 AM

didn’t think the tag was necessary

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Ditkaca on January 26, 2013 at 10:41 AM

…just kidding!…I never use it…here!…watch this!
…I LOVE bluegill and squishypeedonme !

KOOLAID2 on January 26, 2013 at 11:33 AM

s it FAIR to punish 120 Million innocent people for the actions of one lunatic?

Galt2009 on January 26, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Proggies’ Old & Busted:

“It is far better that one thousand guilty persons go free than one innocent suffer.”

Proggies’ New Hotness:

“It is far better that 100+ million law-abiding citizens lose their Second Amendment rights than for one criminal to get his hands on a gun.”

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Yup – even worse is that they will openly admit that all these NEW limitations on our Liberty won’t do a thing to the Criminals because they know that by definition, they don’t obey the law.

Galt2009 on January 26, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Wisconsin Anti-Violence Effort Educational Fund describes itself as the “only statewide grassroots organization solely dedicated to reducing gun violence, injuries and deaths.” ***

pat on January 26, 2013 at 11:28 AM

***Not available in all neighborhoods; your crime rate may vary

Liam on January 26, 2013 at 11:36 AM

and that should have alerted everyone that, when it comes down to it, you are really on your own – as the SCOTUS rightly pointed out.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 26, 2013 at 11:10 AM

A fact and reality that the Founding Fathers understood to the depths of their souls, and a primary reason for their inclusion in so prominent a place of the 2nd amendment to the Constitution.

Shall not be infringed. The quotes from the Founding Fathers in this article make that indisputably clear.

SWalker on January 26, 2013 at 11:40 AM

MelonCollie on January 26, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Thanks!

GWB on January 26, 2013 at 11:41 AM

By the way……you think the Progressives are recruiting “gun nazis” like Tom Coburn and other idiots to report on those that don’t comply….

….the same peer pressure/snitches/nazis are going to be IN YOUR OFFICES with their new ObamaCare approved term……”WELLNESS”.

If you don’t comply to the norms (don’t you dare bring snacks from home, or a cake or brownies, or anything like that) you will be shunned and ridiculed. If you don’t participate in weight loss plans sponsored through the employer you’re going to cost them more on their insurance, etc.

This Milwaukee County PSA is going to illicit the same MEDIA JIHAD that forced Phil Mickelson to cower, that Angus King kid on that “filth” of a show “Two and a Half men” and assorted other republicans or feckless conservatives, all browbeat by the media into towing the progressive line. We’re creating a cowered citizenry, a state empowered and aggressive media, Cameras at intersections in the middle of nowhere, cameras in libraries, parking lots, drones flying overhead, and this is just the beginning.

It’s starting to look like the old Soviet Union more and more. No wonder the ChiComms and the Russians are leaving Obama alone. He’s weakening America for them.

This sheriff will be backtracking or issuing a “clarification” in 5…..4…..3….

PappyD61 on January 26, 2013 at 11:41 AM

…is HE RACIST or something?

KOOLAID2 on January 26, 2013 at 11:46 AM

This sheriff will be backtracking or issuing a “clarification” in 5…..4…..3….

PappyD61 on January 26, 2013 at 11:41 AM

I truly hope you’re wrong. The Sheriff’s statement is the best pro-gun stance from a law enforcement officer I have seen in a while, if ever. He asks for partnership with the citizens, and admonishes them to get training in the law and in handling firearms.

But if he does backtrack, we’re no worse than before. We know already we’re responsible for our own safety all the time.

Liam on January 26, 2013 at 11:48 AM

We’re creating a cowered citizenry, a state empowered and aggressive media.. It’s starting to look like the old Soviet Union more and more.
This sheriff will be backtracking or issuing a “clarification” in 5…..4…..3….

PappyD61 on January 26, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Correct. NOTHING CHANGES until someone refuses to back down. One person needs to push an issue through the fire of slander and collectivist intimidation. Only then will the war truly be engaged. That will be the Lexington-Concord moment.

rrpjr on January 26, 2013 at 11:50 AM

This man needs to be defended from the coming onslaught.

Thicklugdonkey on January 26, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Dirty Harry wasn’t about citizen vigilantes; it was about a sworn peace officer who used excessive force to deliver his own brand of justice.

As someone who has watched the Dirty Harry movies many, many times I cannot remember a single instance of excessive force by Inspector Harry Calahan.
Well, except maybe when that pretty Asian girl (Sunny) came by his apartment in Magnum Force… and I don’t recall her complaining.

HammerNH on January 26, 2013 at 12:03 PM

How can you say Sudden Impact was the worst of the Dirty Harry franchise? You didn’t even get a back story in ‘Dead Pool’ (unlike Sudden Impact despite the determination of Sandra Locke to resemble a tree) and don’t even get me started on the whole ‘being chased by an RC car.

EnglishRogue on January 26, 2013 at 12:06 PM

This sheriff appears to be one of the good guys. You should probably know where you sheriff stands before this stuff goes down. Many are already stating their positions publicly don’t be afraid to ask yours.

acyl72 on January 26, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Well, that’s easy. My sheriff is Clarence Dumbs***, of the Giffords shooting fame who accused the Tea Party of being responsible before the crime scene had even been processed. He since doubled down, yet got reelected. Pima county AZ is full of regressive fools. I.e, I’m screwed.

AZfederalist on January 26, 2013 at 12:08 PM

MelonCollie on January 26, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Is there nothing that liberals aren’t willing to let others do for them?

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Is there nothing that liberals aren’t willing to let others do for them?

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Work and pay taxes.

Liam on January 26, 2013 at 12:16 PM

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