Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on January 26, 2013 by Allahpundit

President Barack Obama insisted four years ago that the nation must make “hard decisions” to preserve entitlement programs.

But on Monday, the “hard choices” he spoke of on health care and the deficit came with a major caveat: He’s not willing to give up much

The president has never precisely defined what hard choices he would be willing to make on Medicare and Social Security. It’s not even clear what he would do if he had the power to remake the programs on his own, without worrying about opposition from Republicans or Democrats.

And though Obama has talked about shared sacrifice from both parties, he has not gotten to the point in deficit negotiations at which he’s had to pressure rank-and-file Democratic lawmakers to cross their red line on the sacred issues, as House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) did with his own party in raising taxes.

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There was a make-believe quality to President Obama’s second inaugural address, as if all that is required to solve serious problems are the intelligence to produce proper policies and the political grit to get them approved. Perish the thought that there are deep conflicts among the things that Americans want, or the possibility that some problems lack easy, obvious and inexpensive remedies. This isn’t the vision Obama was peddling…

Excluding [entitlement] programs from even modest budget cuts — as Obama seems inclined to do — imposes huge costs on the young. Their taxes will rise, big deficits will persist or spending cuts will be concentrated on other programs more important to the working population (for starters, grants to state and local governments). There’s no honest way around these conflicts, but Obama pretended they don’t exist…

The job of the president is not merely to inspire. It is first and foremost to inform — to help people see the world as it is, not as they wish it to be — and then to craft policies based on that understanding. Barack Obama is so confident of his rhetorical powers that he violates such self-restraint. In his speech, he casually mentioned “hard choices” but didn’t say what they are; he offhandedly acknowledged that combatting climate change will be “long” but didn’t say why. His make-believe assumptions sound good but will have a short shelf life.

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“It doesn’t matter what mode the president is in. It doesn’t matter what mode the Republican Party is in. There’s a power greater than both of them. It’s called math, and the math is going to consume us.”

So said Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn on “Morning Joe” this week while discussing the president’s inaugural address. As the president and his opponents prepare to scrap over social issues in circular debates that will produce far more heat than light, the possibility of an economic meltdown in America grows exponentially in these uncertain days because of the president’s aversion to arithmetic…

Mr. Obama should call Tom Coburn to the White House today to begin planning how to pay down the debt, balance the budget and save Medicare. He should but he won’t. Instead, Barack Obama will keep playing to his base, blaming his opponents and doing everything in his power to avoid making the tough decisions required to fix this problem.

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In one perfunctory paragraph, he referred to American skepticism of central authority, to the fiction that all society’s ills can be cured by government, and to the country’s insistence on hard work and personal responsibility — before moving on to the unfinished social-justice agenda at vastly greater length.

In describing these ambitions, many of which I support, he conveyed no sense of the dilemmas they will require Washington to confront. It was as though the need, say, to preserve Medicare in exactly its present form is a self-evident moral truth, admitting of no legitimate countervailing argument or principled compromise.

Obama repeatedly jabbed Republicans, reminding them who just won the election (the derisive reference to “takers” leapt out at me). That’s fine, I suppose, but almost half the country voted for the other party’s candidate, and they’re U.S. citizens, too. A little generosity to the losers wouldn’t have cost Obama anything, but he offered none.

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What hard choices? He doesn’t tell us. And how do we control health care costs? Not with structural reforms to Medicare, but judging from his signature domestic policy accomplishment, greater involvement of the state.

Strikingly, Obama’s allusions to the nation’s asphyxiating debt and the entitlement programs driving it accounted for just 94 words of the 2,142 he spoke in his second inaugural – less than five percent of the speech. (Obama’s section on climate change was twice as long.) Both times the president spoke of entitlements and deficits, Obama defended the programs but gave no hint at the steps he would take to address the rising debt…

The lack of attention to the debt from Obama was not an oversight. It’s simply not a priority. Obama promised to cut the deficit in half during his first term. He hasn’t even pretended to do so. When the commission he appointed to look at debt and deficits reported its findings, he ignored them. And when the president’s top adviser, David Axelrod, was asked last summer about Obama’s second term priorities, he listed six separate issues – the economy, education, investment in research/manufacturing, trade, energy, and immigration. He did not mention debt or deficits.

For Obama, five of those six priorities will mean more spending, bigger government. How will we pay for them?

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What programs are so inadequate that he is willing to see them reformed? Where is he willing to change the means to continue achieving the ends? What hard choices does he have in mind to reduce the deficit and the cost of health care? What does it mean to “reject the belief” that we are forced into a choice between the young and the old when we have massive government programs that compel exactly that choice and yet the president refuses to change them?

In fact, it is precisely the vision laid out in the rest of the president’s speech that has brought us to this difficult moment. Our foremost domestic challenges now almost all have to do with mitigating the enormous damage done to our economic dynamism, our social fabric, and our fiscal prospects by the public exertions most directly attributable to the sort of progressivism Obama laid out. This generation and the next one (at least) will spend their political energies trying to pick up the pieces of the Great Society and to construct alternatives to its foremost achievements that are better suited to the kind of country we are and want to be. And today’s progressives are very poorly suited to that task, because they do not see the problem, and they have a rather peculiar notion of the kind of country we are and want to be.

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An inaugural address is not historically the place for a Sister Souljah moment, as when Bill Clinton in 1992 showed he would not pander to his African-American supporters by denouncing the violent lyrics of a popular singer.

But since Obama was willing to use the inaugural address to criticize the motives and wisdom of his opponents, it was a notable absence that he never turned the spotlight on his own side — are there any issues in which Democrats need to rethink old assumptions or take steps that might run counter to the wishes of their own constituencies?

Obama knows the answer is yes. The inaugural speech noted that “We must make the hard choices to reduce the cost of health care and the size of our deficit.” Beyond that one line, however, the speech did nothing to prepare or inspire his own party or the public at large for those choices.

And, for now, the Washington scorecard shows a glaring contradiction: House Speaker John Boehner, who sometimes is mocked by White House officials for being too weak to lead his own party, did cast a vote against GOP orthodoxy this month to raise taxes. Obama has never sought to whip his party behind a vote, much less signed into law, a break from Democratic orthodoxy with his own plan for trimming costly entitlements.

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I also think Obama misunderstands this moment. The Progressive Era, New Deal and Great Society laws were enacted when America was still a young and growing nation. They were enacted in a nation that was vibrant, raw, underinstitutionalized and needed taming.

We are no longer that nation. We are now a mature nation with an aging population. Far from being underinstitutionalized, we are bogged down with a bloated political system, a tangled tax code, a byzantine legal code and a crushing debt…

Reinvigorating a mature nation means using government to give people the tools to compete, but then opening up a wide field so they do so raucously and creatively. It means spending more here but deregulating more there. It means facing the fact that we do have to choose between the current benefits to seniors and investments in our future, and that to pretend we don’t face that choice, as Obama did, is effectively to sacrifice the future to the past.

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[I]t fell to the 45th president-in-waiting to encapsulate the ethos of the age in one deft sound bite: What difference does it make? Hillary Clinton’s instantly famous riposte at the Benghazi hearings is such a perfect distillation that it surely deserves to be the national motto of the United States…

Well, it’s the difference between cool and reality — and, as Hillary’s confident reply appeared to suggest, and the delirious media reception of it confirmed, reality comes a poor second in the Obama era. The presumption of conservatives has always been that one day cold, dull reality would pierce the klieg-light sheen of Obama’s glamour. Indeed, that was the premise of Mitt Romney’s reductive presidential campaign. But, just as Beyoncé will always be way cooler than some no-name operatic soprano or a male voice choir, so Obama will always be cooler than a bunch of squaresville yawneroos boring on about jobs and debt and entitlement reform. Hillary’s cocksure sneer to Senator Johnson of Wisconsin made it explicit. At a basic level, the “difference” is the difference between truth and falsity, but the subtext took it a stage further: No matter what actually happened that night in Benghazi, you poor sad loser Republicans will never succeed in imposing that reality and its consequences on this administration.

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“You know, it just seems like there’s less people pulling the wagon and more people in the wagon, and at some point the wagon is going to break.”


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From now on, its all about building legacy.

tommy71 on January 26, 2013 at 9:14 PM

or, bilking illegally

4Grace on January 26, 2013 at 9:17 PM

I feel like that Baye(r) chick on the women in the Mil thread…

I could get vicious!! Nasty!!

I could take on all comers!!

I CAN kick butt!

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:05 PM

lol, she is a really good gal generally. She kept spelling it viscious though.

arnold ziffel on January 26, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Cheshire Cat on January 26, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Wonderful!!

You do that sooooooooooo well!!

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Chrissy hugs are special!

KCB on January 26, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Scrumpy, just imagine them Chinese food. yummy! ;-)

tommy71 on January 26, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Arnie, I did that also… lol viscious…

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Where is gilly? Did she finally stroke out on the Palin thread?

KCB on January 26, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Wanna go check Ken? ;-)

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:20 PM

tommy71 on January 26, 2013 at 9:19 PM

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that was um

CRUEL!!!! Lol…

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:21 PM

All I want is a huge pile of Combo Lo Mein!!

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Where is gilly? Did she finally stroke out on the Palin thread?

KCB on January 26, 2013 at 9:19 PM

…having cyber-sex on another site with an unsuspecting jello mold?

KOOLAID2 on January 26, 2013 at 9:23 PM

KCB on January 26, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Awwwwwwwwwwwww shucks… (blushing)

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Expensive too. *clink?*

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 8:50 PM

*sigh*

1/25/13 Hannity Special: Boomtown Part I

*clink!*

Seven Percent Solution on January 26, 2013 at 9:24 PM

…having cyber-sex on another site with an unsuspecting jello mold?

KOOLAID2 on January 26, 2013 at 9:23 PM

I just spit gatorade all over my laptop!!

Lmao…

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Don’t see her bet that A$$hat Moesart made an appearance.

KCB on January 26, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Caaaaaaaaaarazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzeeeeeeeeee lady!! lol…

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 8:55 PM

He is a nucking futter and we get tarnished by his a$$hattery.

I’m glad that you are feeling better. :-)

Evening, RWM! I read this from an earlier thread. Fantastic…and fantastically sad.

4Grace on January 26, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Thx. It is sad.

On a serious note, we really have to start loudly shunning and ridiculing the a$$hattery of people like Alex Jones. We know that life isn’t fair in this country with the MSM. Truthers like Michael Moore and Van Jones get to sit next to Jimmy Carter at the DNC or work in the White House. With the possible exception – and I say “possible” because of race – of Cynthia McKinney, who has the MSM ever called “batshyt crazy” on the Left? Hank Johnson can claim that Guam will tip over and capsize and it’s “crickets.” On the other hand, Ben Shapiro’s decimation of Piers Morgan, essentially, goes unnoticed while every gun owner in America is turned into Alex Nutter Jones.

This “juice boxes make you gay” thingie is on the heels of the birth of the Newtown Truther Movement started by AJ and his friends. Saul Alinksy’s Rule #5 for radicals is “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” It’s way past time we start opening fire on idiots. Even though Jones hated/s Bush and believes that W & OBL conspired to commit 9/11, we are the ones who get tarnished by and stuck with him.

As a libertarian, I waited and worked for years to see Ron Paul retire. I might agree with him on 85% of the issues, but the remaining 15% was just one crazy bridge too far and he hurt libertarianism. Alex Jones is Ron Paul times 1,000,000 and the MSM will do everything in its power over the next 4 years to ensure that the former becomes more famous than the latter.

Newtown Truther Movement, appearance on CNN where he makes Piers Morgan look reasonable, and now juice boxes make people gay…AND IT IS STILL JANUARY. All in less than a month’s work of the MSM and the moonbat, Alex Jones, who seems to be, at time, collaborating with them or, in the very least, serving himself up on a silver platter every week.

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Seven Percent Solution on January 26, 2013 at 9:24 PM

May I?

*clink* :-)

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Arnie, I did that also… lol viscious…

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Good deal. You can be vicious, viscious or viscous—your choice. Just get well.
Whats for dinner? See, that’s guy humor. Kick someone when they are down. :)

arnold ziffel on January 26, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Funny, 1454, still in the right column. GOPe jealousy?

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Hit me with your best shot…or maybe not…

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 9:05 PM

OK. :) Had to go compile. Ahem:

Does it really have to be that high?

Axe on January 26, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Did b9 go unicorn riding again? :-)

tommy71 on January 26, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Lame. Duck.

can_con on January 26, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:25 PM

That *clink* sounded like Gatorade….

KCB on January 26, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Fine! I’m ordering up some Chinese take away. Anyone want anything?

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 9:29 PM

I waited and worked for years to see Ron Paul retire. I might agree with him on 85% of the issues, but the remaining 15% was just one crazy bridge too far and he hurt libertarianism.

Ditto !!

Yeah AJ is a complete nutter…

I will admit to having heard him a time or two… I wondered how in the heck did this guy ever get airtime!

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Agree wholeheartedly, RWM. However, my thought is that no matter how loudly and uniformly we shout down & ridicule people of his ilk, the MSM will still drive the narrative that Alex Jones IS the conservative movement. Makes me freakin nuts.

4Grace on January 26, 2013 at 9:30 PM

I have been whistling show tunes themes lately, and I bought a puffy pirate shirt today….O_O

Bishop on January 26, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Ain’t got a hat this cool.

*sniff*

Axe on January 26, 2013 at 9:30 PM

B, I think Scrumpy likes Chinese once in a while. :-)

tommy71 on January 26, 2013 at 9:32 PM

KCB on January 26, 2013 at 9:29 PM

It was, plastic doesn’t *clink* well, flav of the moment is Rain Berry… not too bad I guess…

Had kept it in the fridge, but I was getting too cold!!

Room temp now sigh……

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Fine! I’m ordering up some Chinese take away. Anyone want anything?

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Kelly Hu.

All right. I apologize to Kelly Hu, an American, for that right there.

Axe on January 26, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Fine! I’m ordering up some Chinese take away. Anyone want anything?

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 9:29 PM

I want my country back. Is that on the menu?

4Grace on January 26, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 9:27 PM

By any standard it ought to be on the left—between getting hits & the topic. IMHO the Breitbart interview should be a thread, and Hannity’s Boomtown TV special should be a thread.

Did Boomtown even make headlines today?

INC on January 26, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Dang, I just made my tea too strong.

tommy71 on January 26, 2013 at 9:34 PM

tommy71 on January 26, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Oh I am partial to all kinds!

Chinese

Indian

Korean

Japanese

Carribean

Scottish

You name it…
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.
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I prolly ate it!!

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:34 PM

OK. :) Had to go compile. Ahem:

Does it really have to be that high?

Axe on January 26, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Thanks. Did you read my piece on this subject from the other day? Already, women only have to perform at an 80% level in physical/strength tests.

Progs dumbed down America and now they are weakening down her military.

And, of course, we have THIS:

Apes, Pigs, and F-16s

M2RB: Jethro Tull

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Axe on January 26, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Just so you know, I lifted that whole thing and pasted it in under RWM at the Dino thread.

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 9:35 PM

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/25/rubio-and-paul-embody-conservative-debate-over-foreign-policy/

First off this may be only the 2nd time in my life I’ve clicked on something from the NY Slimes.

It is a pretty good article going over the contrasting foreign policy views of Rubio vs. Rand Raul.

I agree/disagree with both of them. I’m a conseravative to which national security and a strong military is very important to me.

I diagress with Rubio on foreign aid, especially to crackpot regimes. I think we should kick the UN out of NY and stop giving it any money.

I agree with Rubio that we need to remain a force for good and maintain a strong military presence.

It strongly concerns me that Paul was the only member of the Senate last fall to vote against a resolution that Iran could never get a nuke, saying that it’s a “vote for the concept of preemptive war.” To me that sounds like nutty Ron Paul stuff to me, dangerous and naive.

Rand also voted to give civilian trails to terrorists which sounds like an obama policy.

However I like that Rand visited Israel and said an attack on Israel is on attack on us – something I’d be suprised to hear his father say.

Overall I’ve been high on Rand for having the guts to challenge Hillary, Kerry, Boehner, and Christie. This is something sorely lacking in the GOP now.

I don’t know if I can get past some of my concerns over foreign policy with him, but I may choose Rand based on fiscal conservatism or to stop a RINO like Christie or Jeb Bush.

LevinFan on January 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Axe, lol!

I want my country back. Is that on the menu?

4Grace on January 26, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Not from the Chinese joint.

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Cheshire Cat on January 26, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Very nice, I tweeted the link to it. :)

22044 on January 26, 2013 at 9:37 PM

2016 Predictions:

Federal Debt: $24.5 trillion
Unemployment: 8.3%
Healthcare: Exchanges still not functioning
Keystone: Denied

Worst. Presidency. Ever.

Chime in with your own.

can_con on January 26, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Agree wholeheartedly, RWM. However, my thought is that no matter how loudly and uniformly we shout down & ridicule people of his ilk, the MSM will still drive the narrative that Alex Jones IS the conservative movement. Makes me freakin nuts.

4Grace on January 26, 2013 at 9:30 PM

I agree, but that’s the reason that I think confronting and ridiculing the nutters amongst us is one of the most important things we can do. And, we need to push back hard.

As unfair and evil as it was, the MSM did a fabulous job of making the Tea Party synonymous with nutters. Of course, Alex Jones and his friends claimed that THEY created the Tea Party long before Rick Santelli gave his beautiful rant on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange. While the overwhelming majority of the TP was/is not crazy, racist nutters and the movement did confront the few that were, it needed to be louder, forceful, and more unequivocal.

The Left will ALWAYS think everyone else is a bunch of sexist, racist, bigoted, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, totalitarian theocrats. That’s a given. It is the rest of the people that we need to reach. Independents, moderates, LoInFos, etc, that are teachable and persuadable. And, we can no longer allow the Left to define us. That’s what Obama did to Romney: define him before he had a chance to define himself (I’m not a Mittbot or claiming that he would have won otherwise). We have to take the initiative and go on offence. We have to go OVER the heads of the Left and the MSM and address real people’s problems and concerns with real solutions. Take it to them, which is what Reagan did btw. The media hated him, too, but he was effective in negating it and that is what we need to do.

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 9:38 PM

INC on January 26, 2013 at 9:33 PM

I never saw it, but I was out for a bit, could have missed it.

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 9:39 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/26/BOOMTOWN-Washington-D-C-Fine-Wine-Capitol-of-United-States

Washington, D.C. consumes more gallons of wine per capita than any state in the nation….

the three richest median income counties in America border Washington, D.C.

Not California, not the NYC metro area!

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/26/Boomtown-Lamborghini-HQs-Moves-to-D-C-Region

Schweizer said it was incredible Lamborghini’s headquarters were not in New York City near Wall Street or in Beverly Hills, but in the D.C. region, which does not produce anything of use.

INC on January 26, 2013 at 9:39 PM

I don’t know if I can get past some of my concerns over foreign policy with him, but I may choose Rand based on fiscal conservatism or to stop a RINO like Christie or Jeb Bush Rubio Sr.

LevinFan on January 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM

I’ll take Rand over that hispandering Bush puppet Rubio any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

TxAnn56 on January 26, 2013 at 9:39 PM

LevinFan on January 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM

I like your insight!

Next election is gonna be a tuffy keeping the RINO’s out…

Still, I am on the fence as to who I would ‘go’ for, it’s early yet.

I need to know more!!

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:40 PM

I want my country back. Is that on the menu?

4Grace on January 26, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Me too Gracie but I don’t see that happening. No fight or will in those supposedly on our side. We are blamed for Romney’s defeat rather than his non-performance.
Time and again the media, dems and our weak sisters set the agenda and tone.

arnold ziffel on January 26, 2013 at 9:41 PM

And, of course, we have THIS:

Apes, Pigs, and F-16s

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Just so you know, I lifted that whole thing and pasted it in under RWM at the Dino thread.

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Been pretty much out of the loop. Fun at lunch on a couple light things, and poking around the colonies a little. It’ll take a while to catch up.

It’s just the misunderstanding, “if she can cut it, why not?” started driving me crazy this morning. She’s not “cutting it,” not in the way people arguing that mean. She’s in a separate tent with a different “it” to cut, and she’s answering to a group standard, not an exceptional individual standard . . .

Sorry. Still full of it. :)

Wish we did things with our eyes open so we could stop being surprised at the consequences of our actions.

Axe on January 26, 2013 at 9:42 PM

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 9:38 PM

You are spot on!

I can count on one hand the few who come to mind that, if they stay on track, would be capable of doing that!

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:43 PM

The better half is serenading me on the piano with this.

No that is not my better half playing in the vid. It was the first vid I came to.

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 9:45 PM

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 9:38 PM

I agree, particularly with your final paragraph. Our side is in desperate need of a politician/public figure that has the fortitude and intelligence to go over and around the MSM.

4Grace on January 26, 2013 at 9:45 PM

Axe on January 26, 2013 at 9:42 PM

Stay full of it!!

I always like what you have to say :-)

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:46 PM

Axe on January 26, 2013 at 9:42 PM

I’m with ya brother! All these threads later, what 7 or 8 of them. Still not one good reason for the decision being taken.

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 9:47 PM

I agree with Rubio that we need to remain a force for good and maintain a strong military presence.

LevinFan on January 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM

It depends on what one considers a “force for good” and where that “strong military presence” is. Rubio, aka McCain Mini Me, thinks it’s in the Middle East serving Muslims in such things as the “Arab Spring” and “Islamic Nation Building” in Afcrapistan. I don’t.

VorDaj on January 26, 2013 at 9:48 PM

arnold ziffel on January 26, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Amen, arnold. When the time comes, I suspect it will be bloggers, commenters such as ourselves at the barricades. There won’t be a politician in sight.

4Grace on January 26, 2013 at 9:50 PM

Fine! I’m ordering up some Chinese take away. Anyone want anything?

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Did you eat General Tso’s chicken?

He wants it back.

PS: if you get a fortune cookie with no fortune in it then its either a jinx or not a fortune cookie.

SparkPlug on January 26, 2013 at 9:50 PM

It strongly concerns me that Paul was the only member of the Senate last fall to vote against a resolution that Iran could never get a nuke, saying that it’s a “vote for the concept of preemptive war.” To me that sounds like nutty Ron Paul stuff to me, dangerous and naive.

LevinFan on January 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Actually it sounds a bit like Reagan and a whole lot like Eisenhower.

VorDaj on January 26, 2013 at 9:51 PM

My cut and paster even works on typos.

It reproduces them perfectly. Quite an amazing feet.

SparkPlug on January 26, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Still not one good reason for the decision being taken.

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Because THERE’S NOT A VALID REASON!
(But we already knew that.)

4Grace on January 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM

SparkPlug on January 26, 2013 at 9:52 PM

You are quite amazing!!

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Just so you know, I lifted that whole thing and pasted it in under RWM at the Dino thread.

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 9:35 PM

lol — you actually did. I just read that thread for the first time. :)

You could have at least linked back to my Sketchbook page!

That threads actually pretty heartening. A lot of people do know better; and they are feeling pretty strongly about it — there are a few names I’ve never seen since the beginning, ticked off (feeling strongly enough) to weigh in I guess. All that’s good.

Huh. My first wholesale theft. :) I’m big time now.

*straightens pirate hat*

Axe on January 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM

My spider senses tell me that Spark is up to mischief. We’re keeping an eye on you, Spark. ;-)

tommy71 on January 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM

I put a rabbits foot on my key chain today. They say it works even if you aren’t superstitious.

SparkPlug on January 26, 2013 at 9:55 PM

I’m with ya brother! All these threads later, what 7 or 8 of them. Still not one good reason for the decision being taken.

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 9:47 PM

I’m hungry again.

lol — k, I’ll stop there.

Axe on January 26, 2013 at 9:56 PM

My cut and paster even works on typos.

It reproduces them perfectly. Quite an amazing feet.

SparkPlug on January 26, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Do your C&P pasters’ feet accomplish amazing feats?

hehehe

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 9:47 PM

I had at one point said, if they want to they will and if not, not.

I have had a day to think about it.

And on so many levels, it is NOT a good idea, even IF the woman wanted to do so… it just isn’t right…

I was wrong before. I am not wrong now!!

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Wouldn’t it be fun it we could edit each other messages.

How about if I got to be scrumpy for a while. That would be cool too. You could be me, the Fire Marshall, only for a while.

SparkPlug on January 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM

I put a rabbits foot on my key chain today. They say it works even if you aren’t superstitious.

SparkPlug on January 26, 2013 at 9:55 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOoooooo! Haven’t you heard? Never, but never place a rabbits foot on your key chain on the 4th Saturday of a month. It’s the height of bad luck!

4Grace on January 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Do your C&P pasters’ feet accomplish amazing feats?

hehehe

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Thank you. I was sitting on my hands itching to fix that but didn’t want to step on anyone’s feat. ;-)

TxAnn56 on January 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

To those concerned about American Foreign/Military policy, I submit the following evidence to argue that none at all would be much better than what we have now and have had for the last several years.

The following is about what some call the Petraeus Doctrine, aka COIN/”Winning Muslim Hearts and Minds”/”Partners In Peace”/”Trillion Dollar Bridge To Nowhere Strewn with the Lives and Limbs of Americas Troops.

Diana West: “Below is an extraordinary, heart-stopping and historic letter. It is a letter SSG Matthew Sitton sent to U.S. Rep. C.W. “Bill” Young after his commanders in Afghanistan told him to “quit whining” about orders to lead patrols without objective “through, for lack of a better term, basically a mine field on a daily basis,” as Sitton wrote. Twice daily basis, in fact.

On August 2, 2012, Sitton and another US soldier were killed in one IED-riddled field he spoke of. Eighty-one-year-old Rep. Young, who attends the same church in Florida as the Sitton family, this week announced he no longer supports the presence of US troops in Afghanistan and called for their withdrawal in advance of 2014. Young also held a hearing yesterday to ask the agency in charge of protecting troops against IEDs to explain why so many are still dying and suffering horrific injuries despite an annual budget of nearly $3 billion.”

SIR,

Hello my name is SSG Matthew Sitton. I am in the 82nd Airborne Division stationed in Ft. Bragg, NC. I am currently deployed with the 4th Brigade Combat Team in support of Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. I am writing you because I am concerned for the safety of my soldiers. This is my 3rd combat tour to Afghanistan so I have seen the transition in Rules of Engagement and Overall Tactics over the past 6 years.

I am only writing this email because I feel myself and my soldiers are being put into unnecessary positions where harm and danger are imminent. I know the threat of casualties in war and am totally on board with sacrifice for my country, but what I don’t agree with is the chain of command making us walk through, for lack of a better term, basically a mine field on a daily basis.

I am in a platoon of 25 soldiers. We are operating at a tempo that is set for a full 35-40 man infantry platoon. We have been mandated to patrol twice daily for 2-4 hours each patrol on top of guarding our FOB and conducting routine maintenance of our equipment. There is no endstate or purpose for the patrols given to us from our higher chain of command, only that we will be out for a certain time standard. I am all for getting on the ground and fighting for my country when I know there is a desired endstate and we have clear guidance of what needs to be done. But when we are told basically to just walk around for a certain amount of time is not sitting well with me.

As a Brigade, we are averaging at a minimum an amputee a day from our soldiers because we are walking around aimlessly through grape rows and compounds that are littered with explosives. Not to mention that the operation tempo that every solider is on leaves little to no time for rest and refit. The moral and alertness levels on our patrol are low and it is causing casualties left and right.

Here is an example of how bad things have gotten. Our small FOB was flooded accidentally by a local early one morning a few days ago. He was watering his fields and the damn he had broke and water came flooding into our Living Area. Since our FOB does not have any portable bathrooms, we had to dig a hole in the ground where soldiers could use the bathroom. That also got flooded and contaminated all the water that later soaked every soldier and his gear. Instead of returning to base and cleaning up, our chain of command was so set on us meeting the brigade commanders 2 patrols a day guidance that they made us move outside the flooded FOB and conduct our patrols soaked in urine.

That is just one single instance of the unsatisfactory situations that our chain of command has put us in. At least three of my soldiers have gotten sick since that incident and taken away from our combat power because of their illness caused by unhealthy conditions.

I understand that as a commander you are to follow the orders of those appointed over you however there needs to be a time where the wellness of your soldiers needs to take priority over walking around in fields for hours a day for no rhyme or reason, but only to meet the Brigade Commanders guidance of you will conduct so many patrols for such an allotted time.

I’m concerned about the well being of my soldiers and have tried to voice my opinion through the proper channels of my own chain of command only to be turned away and told that I need to stop complaining. It is my responsibility to take care of my soldiers and there is only so much I can do with that little bit of Rank I have. My guys would fight by my side and have my back in any condition and I owe it to them to have their best interest in mind. I know they would and I certainly would appreciate it if there was something that you could do to help us out. I just want to return my guys home to their families healthy. I apologize for taking your time like this Sir, and I do appreciate what you do for us. I was told to contact you by my Grand Mother (name blacked out) who said that you had helped her son (my uncle) (name blacked) out many years ago. He also was serving in the military at the time. Thank you again for allowing soldiers like me to voice their opinion. If anything Please Pray for us over hear. God Bless

Very respectfully,

SSG Matthew Sitton

VorDaj on January 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

SparkPlug on January 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM

I could but try to wear the Fire Marshall hat!!

But I don’t know a thing about flying a ballon and I certainly am not gonna holler, Less Ballast! And strip off like you would! ;-P

I can however make Camel Meal Tea with 2 humps!!

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 10:00 PM

SparkPlug on January 26, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Do your C&P pasters’ feet accomplish amazing feats?

hehehe

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Hey, your cut ‘n paster copied my ‘feet’ typo perfilictiously as well.

SparkPlug on January 26, 2013 at 10:00 PM

Did you eat General Tso’s chicken?

He wants it back.

PS: if you get a fortune cookie with no fortune in it then its either a jinx or not a fortune cookie.

SparkPlug on January 26, 2013 at 9:50 PM

You are consistently quick—Sensei. where is your school? Are there chicks, food and guns? I’m good with the food and guns. Mrs ziffel lets me look at chicks but no touchee.

arnold ziffel on January 26, 2013 at 10:01 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOoooooo! Haven’t you heard? Never, but never place a rabbits foot on your key chain on the 4th Saturday of a month. It’s the height of bad luck!

4Grace on January 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Full Wolfn Moon too. Wouldn’t want to be Sparky right now….

KCB on January 26, 2013 at 10:01 PM

KCB on January 26, 2013 at 10:01 PM

The n is silent.

KCB on January 26, 2013 at 10:02 PM

VorDaj on January 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Thank you for posting that, VorDaj.

4Grace on January 26, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 10:00 PM

Heck, I don’t know how to steer the Glade Airship Kerfuffle (h/t Jackie) either. That’s why I tied it to a steer, well one if it horns. Where ever the steer goes is where I steer it.

SparkPlug on January 26, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Stop the Marxists! Fight!

rayra on January 26, 2013 at 10:06 PM

VorDaj on January 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

That is heart wrenching…

Knowing that not long after this man died for no good reason…

War is sick, but his Brigade Commanders command was sicker…

Brb…

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Hey, your cut ‘n paster copied my ‘feet’ typo perfilictiously as well.

SparkPlug on January 26, 2013 at 10:00 PM

Our C&P pasters are simpatico.

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 10:08 PM

The n is silent.

KCB on January 26, 2013 at 10:02 PM

ROFL

4Grace on January 26, 2013 at 10:08 PM

4Grace on January 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Hi Grace. Poop. Never heard of that one. Maybe my lucky shamrock will unjinx the rabbits foot.

Magic * Ball says:

A lucky Shamrock will unjix the rabbits foot.

SparkPlug on January 26, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Magic * Ball says:

A lucky Shamrock will unjix the rabbits foot.

SparkPlug on January 26, 2013 at 10:09 PM

As long as you tucked the shamrock under your left arm…and you’re wearing a kilt. Backwards.

4Grace on January 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM

I had at one point said, if they want to they will and if not, not.

I have had a day to think about it.

And on so many levels, it is NOT a good idea, even IF the woman wanted to do so… it just isn’t right…

I was wrong before. I am not wrong now!!

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM

A lot of women, in particular, probably feel that way. That’s actual feminism. It’s just that this isn’t an individual thing, and can’t be; this is more like Title 9 for the military.

IMO, etc.

Axe on January 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Recipe to undo Bad Luck:

Walk on the cracks
Walk under a ladder
Break a mirror
Cross paths with a black cat
Toss salt under your arm
That should fix it

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Axe on January 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM

I have no clue what Title 9 is I shall look it up…

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Meanwhile, MSNBC host Toure Neblett thanks God and country that abortion was there to save him. Apparently 15 years ago, his old girlfriend had an abortion. How hypocritical and racist. And thanking God for abortion! Theres a special place in hell for dudes like him.

tommy71 on January 26, 2013 at 10:16 PM

arnold ziffel on January 26, 2013 at 10:01 PM

It always good to catch a whiff of Ziff. Most people think pigs are dirty but that are very clean and smart.

SparkPlug on January 26, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Axe on January 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM

I have no clue what Title 9 is I shall look it up…

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 10:15 PM

It has destroyed many university sports programs. Axe, I think that was a very good analogy.

4Grace on January 26, 2013 at 10:17 PM

The n is silent.

KCB on January 26, 2013 at 10:02 PM

lol

Sweet catch.

Axe on January 26, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Found it and bookmarked it. Ty Axe!

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 10:17 PM

tommy71 on January 26, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Seriously?? I really hate that arrogant bastard!!!!

KCB on January 26, 2013 at 10:18 PM

I’ll take Rand over that hispandering Bush puppet Rubio any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

TxAnn56 on January 26, 2013 at 9:39 PM

I don’t like Rubio’s hispandering. Is that what you mean when you say Bush Sr or is there more to add?

LevinFan on January 26, 2013 at 10:19 PM

4Grace on January 26, 2013 at 10:17 PM

It wasn’t for real?

I been hoodwinked?

Scrumpy on January 26, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Axe on January 26, 2013 at 10:17 PM

QOTD is better when you’re around.

KCB on January 26, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Wait — you mean gun crime isn’t the leading reason to put a boot on the neck of Americans? Now it’s prescription drugs?

How about medical errors?

Preventable medical errors and infections kill 200,000 people a year in the United States, which is roughly a 1-in-1,650 chance per year — roughly 60 per 100,000 or five times the rate claimed for prescription drugs and more than 12 times the rate as a whole for homicide, including gun homicide.

That is, it’s 60 times more likely that you will be killed by a hospital or other medical facility due to a preventable error than it is that you will be murdered by any design (whether with a firearm or a golf club.) And it’s 5 times more likely that you will be killed by such an error than you will die due to prescription drug abuse.

More from KD at MT

tom daschle concerned on January 26, 2013 at 10:21 PM

It strongly concerns me that Paul was the only member of the Senate last fall to vote against a resolution that Iran could never get a nuke, saying that it’s a “vote for the concept of preemptive war.” To me that sounds like nutty Ron Paul stuff to me, dangerous and naive.

LevinFan on January 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM
Actually it sounds a bit like Reagan and a whole lot like Eisenhower.

VorDaj on January 26, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Really. You really think Reagan would be ok with letting Iran get a nuke?

It’s basic common sense. We have the power to stop them and we’ve really done pretty much nothing. We could apply enough sanctions and cut off the port of Hormuz to starve them economically.

Ron Paul saying in the primary that Iran has a right to nukes, to self defense just like we do or any other nation sounds like a naive first grader who has no clue about good and evil. When Rand votes no on not stopping Iran from getting a nuke he sounds like his daddy going down the nutty path.

LevinFan on January 26, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Yeah KCB, seriously. His excuse was that he wasn’t ready, and she (his old girlfriend) wasn’t the ONE. Then what the hell was he doing boinking her? Especially without contraceptives. And another precious life was snuffed away cos it was inconvenient.

tommy71 on January 26, 2013 at 10:23 PM

QOTD is better when you’re around.

KCB on January 26, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Aw. :)

You still can’t have any Cheetos.

Axe on January 26, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Axe on January 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Okay, I went back and linked it. I’m going to link it on every thread. ; )

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 10:24 PM

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