Of course: Feinstein’s assault weapons ban exempts government officials

posted at 5:31 pm on January 26, 2013 by Mary Katharine Ham

Hey, they’ve gotta have someone who can sell high-powered firearms to Mexican drug cartels, amirite? You’ve heard about the 158 weapons you’ll no longer be able to use. But what about the exemptions?

Not everyone will have to abide by Senator Dianne Feinstein’s gun control bill. If the proposed legislation becomes law, government officials and others will be exempt.

“Mrs. Feinstein’s measure would exempt more than 2,200 types of hunting and sporting rifles; guns manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or slide action; and weapons used by government officials, law enforcement and retired law enforcement personnel,” the Washington Times reports.

More on exemptions, from the Huffington Post:

Finally, the bill includes a number of exemptions: It exempts more than 2,200 hunting and sporting weapons; any gun manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action; any weapons used by government officials and law enforcement; and any weapons legally owned as of the date of the bill’s enactment.

I’m always confused by how liberals— the segment of the population most obsessed with constantly telling us of our country’s sins, its government’s brutal overreaches, its occasional tyranny, and its fundamental disregard for the justice it promises— suddenly decide the idea of governments becoming tyrannical is a paranoid delusion once the wary citizen is a gun owner. Presumably you’re only allowed to believe the government might become tyrannical and still be a respected political figure and college professor if your weapon of choice was a nail bomb meant for Ft. Dix.

Radley Balko has a new book out, which might help remind liberals why you might not want to be stuck with a 7-round pistol when, say, an armed drug raid mistakenly descends on your house and family— Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America’s Police Forces

Jacob Sullum notes a more sinister thought process behind Feinstein’s very specific list-making and exempting:

Feinstein brags that her bill “protects the rights of law-abiding citizens who use guns for hunting, household defense or legitimate recreational purposes.” One way it supposedly does that is by excluding “2,258 legitimate hunting and sporting rifles and shotguns by specific make and model.” If those guns are not on the list of specifically named “assault weapons” and do not meet the criteria Feinstein has laid out for that arbitrary category, why should they be mentioned at all? Feinstein seems to think anything not specifically allowed is prohibited, but that is not how laws are supposed to work in a free society.

Another way Feinstein “protects the rights of law-abiding citizens” is by graciously allowing current owners of newly defined “assault weapons” to keep them. She emphasizes that her bill includes “a grandfather clause that specifically exempts all assault weapons lawfully possessed at the date of enactment from the ban.” But Feinstein and her allies have been assuring us for two decades that “assault weapons” have no legitimate uses. It is hard to reconcile that claim, which is central to the argument for banning these guns, with Feinstein’s concession that they are used for “hunting, household defense or legitimate recreational purposes.” Her bill would require buyers of grandfathered “assault weapons” to undergo background checks, but there is no way to enforce that rule unless all those guns are registered, and in any event it is not a very effective way of stopping mass shooters, who typically do not have disqualifying criminal or psychiatric records.

Emily Miller of the Washington Times, who has written about her own laborious labyrinthine path to gun ownership in the District of Columbia, reminds us of how utterly useless all this is, considering the central pitch is a deliberate attempt to confuse people about guns:

The best illustration of this deception is Mrs. Feinstein’s placing of the “Armalite M15 22LR Carbine” on her list of items that she claims have the sole purpose “to hold at the hip if possible, to spray fire to be able to kill large numbers.” This particular weapon fires a .22 long rifle cartridge, which has one-tenth the power of the standard military round and is generally suited for plinking tin cans or hunting small varmints. It simply looks like a military rifle, which fits Mrs. Feinstein’s effort to eliminate items that look scary to her.

During the marathon news conference, politicians played on emotions rather than facts. We know the new “assault weapons” ban would be useless because crime didn’t decrease during the 10 years that the 1994 ban was in effect. In the eight years Americans have been free to buy any semi-automatic rifles, gun ownership has gone up while crime has steadily declined.

According to a survey conducted in 2010 for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, 90 percent of the owners of modern sporting rifles use them for target shooting, 80 percent for home defense and 60 percent for hunting.

About 44 percent of owners are former military or law enforcement, who enjoy using a familiar rifle. The typical owner is over 35 years old, married and has some college education. These good Americans are the ones who will be affected by a ban, not the criminals who will continue to use whatever they want.

Before this ridiculous bill is sent to the trash heap by a bipartisan group of senators, at least we get to enjoy being lectured about gun safety by people brandishing rifles without opening the action or observing trigger discipline and lectured about saving lives from gun violence by the mayor of the city in which you’re most likely to die by gunfire.


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- George Orwell

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Radley Balko has a new book out, which might help remind liberals why you might not want to be stuck with a 7-round pistol when, say, an armed drug raid mistakenly descends on your house and family— Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America’s Police Forces

Well, I sure can’t think of a quicker way to end up dead or in jail then to RETURN FIRE at a quasi-military SWAT team that is kicking down your door.

Not sure how that argument helps at all.

Timin203 on January 26, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Did you say “trigger discipline”? Look at the picture. Good to know that Feinstein is the one in charge of deciding what weapons should and shouldn’t be allowed.

My twelve-year-old nephew learned better trigger discipline–from video games.

Meryl Yourish on January 26, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Since the union thugs are in bed with bho, will they be exempted also?
L

letget on January 26, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Just like Hitler’s law.

I can hear the groans now.
:)

CW on January 26, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Just like Obowmacare…

… I think I see a pattern here.

Seven Percent Solution on January 26, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Our elected officials refuse to defend our border, insist on pandering to criminal immigrants in a bid to retain power, and continue to spend the populace into a devastating future misery.

Damn right they exempt themselves. Because criminals don’t give up their guns.

And I won’t either.

M240H on January 26, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Haven’t read the article but love the picture. That weapon is so you, Senator.

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 5:40 PM

The fat bloated head that holds the face of tyranny.

Are there any walls in California?

tom daschle concerned on January 26, 2013 at 5:42 PM

California is sadly too far gone to save, only thing we can do is use CA as a warning, of what happens when unchecked loony liberalism infects a state.

Raquel Pinkbullet on January 26, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Before this ridiculous bill is sent to the trash heap by a bipartisan group of senators…

…We won’t hear a single Republican (maybe except for Rand Paul) call out this abomination in the language necessary to shame everybody associated with it. Such scandalous silence will make it easier next time around for the Left as they march patiently, inexorably toward the destruction of the 2nd Amendment.

FU, GOP.

rrpjr on January 26, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Another Feinstein fantasy.

M240H on January 26, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Elitist scum.

jawkneemusic on January 26, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Why does Sen. Feinstein want women like this to be raped and murdered and the 6 year old daughter taken:

HOUSTON –
A mother turned the tables on a trio of would-be home invaders Friday night, police said.

Officials with the Montgomery County Sheriff’s Office said three crooks forced their way into a home in the 18700 block of Mink Lake Drive in Magnolia around 9:30 p.m.

Inside the home was a 33-year-old mother with her 6-year-old daughter, officials said.

Investigators said the quick-thinking mother pulled a gun and opened fire. The three crooks decided to take off, and investigators said the mother told them she may have hit one of them

One woman took on and beat 3 men. How you ask? By using the very tool Sen. Feinstein wants to take away, leaving this mother of a 6 year old at the mercy of whatever those men wanted. Well done Sen. Feinstein.

Weight of Glory on January 26, 2013 at 5:51 PM

She emphasizes that her bill includes “a grandfather clause that specifically exempts all assault weapons lawfully possessed at the date of enactment from the ban.”

Of course, you’ll have to step right up and register all of them with us now, so we’ll have a good accurate list to help us… ummm… “protect” your rights later on.

bofh on January 26, 2013 at 5:54 PM

it is time that we stop these idiots in Dc from taking more of our freedom. they will never be happy until we are reduced to serfs living off the bark of trees.

unseen on January 26, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Weight of Glory on January 26, 2013 at 5:51 PM

This is the second awesome Mom story like this. Way to go ladies.

gophergirl on January 26, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Elitist scum.

jawkneemusic on January 26, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Tar, feather, and pitchfork time.

Jackalope on January 26, 2013 at 5:56 PM

She exempted herself from gun control. Along with every other government employee.

Government official = receives paycheck from a governmental body. Federal, state, local.

BobMbx on January 26, 2013 at 5:58 PM

This is the second awesome Mom story like this. Way to go ladies.

gophergirl on January 26, 2013 at 5:54 PM

For some odd reason I liked the other story a little better.

VegasRick on January 26, 2013 at 5:58 PM

This is the second awesome Mom story like this. Way to go ladies.

gophergirl on January 26, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Indeed. And here’s another thing to consider: three men against one mom could turn into a situation where the mom would need way more than just 7 rounds. But DEMOCRAT Sen Feinstein would rather have that mother hand over her life and the life of her child over to those three men. War against women TM.

Weight of Glory on January 26, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Look at the picture. Good to know that Feinstein is the one in charge of deciding what weapons should and shouldn’t be allowed.

My exact first thought. If you’ve ever been instructed in firearms you know that you don’t put your finger on the trigger until you’re ready to shoot and you don’t point it at anything you wouldn’t want dead.

morandjp on January 26, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Government official = receives paycheck from a governmental body. Federal, state, local.

BobMbx on January 26, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Well, they do send me some scraps of the thousands I give to them every year so I will consider myself exempted.

VegasRick on January 26, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Haven’t read the article but love the picture. That weapon is so you, Senator.

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 5:40 PM

…it’s not nice!…but I wish she would have a self- inflecting accident while she’s holing it!

KOOLAID2 on January 26, 2013 at 6:01 PM

The woman looks good with an AK in a crowded room and a glazed look in her eye. Like she’s getting ready to “sanitize” it….IYKWIMAITYD. I wonder if she has access to hand grenades.

a capella on January 26, 2013 at 6:01 PM

When it comes to liberals and guns, you can’t fix STUPID! Lady Di rants about military-style “characteristics” that make weapons MORE LETHAL!

Shrouds – aka “handguards”, don’t make a weapon MORE LETHAL.
Pistol grips – don’t make a weapon MORE LETHAL.
Forward grips – don’t make a weapon MORE LETHAL.
Telescoping stocks – don’t make a weapon MORE LETHAL.
Flash suppressors – don’t make a weapon MORE LETHAL.

Then you’ve got Joey “The Mouth Biden” saying anyone purchasing a firearm should have to take a psych exam.

Here’s a thought; maybe we should have politicians take a psych exam. And an exam for alcoholism. And if they’re a Kennedy, a drug screening.

How about a psych exam for anyone wanting to vote?

As for the hoops you have to jump through to get a weapon “grandfathered”; that’s funny coming from a woman who thinks that presenting a valid picture ID to vote IS TOO BURDENSOME!

GarandFan on January 26, 2013 at 6:01 PM

For some odd reason I liked the other story a little better.

VegasRick on January 26, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Yeah that one was a bit better. But still both are awesome.

I’d like both these Moms to testify before Congress ASAP. Wonder what Feinstein would have to say after that.

gophergirl on January 26, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Weight of Glory on January 26, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Women are only worthwhile to the Liberals when they have their hands out for a handout.

Independent women are as bad to them as white men.

gophergirl on January 26, 2013 at 6:04 PM

How about a new law that states “congress shall not exempt itself from any legislation it passes and imposes on the American people”

Jackalope on January 26, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Her pinstripes make her look just like a gangster!

Paul-Cincy on January 26, 2013 at 6:04 PM

I’d like both these Moms to testify before Congress ASAP. Wonder what Feinstein would have to say after that.

gophergirl on January 26, 2013 at 6:03 PM

derpa, derpa?

VegasRick on January 26, 2013 at 6:05 PM

How about a new law that states “congress shall not exempt itself from any legislation it passes and imposes on the American people”

Jackalope on January 26, 2013 at 6:04 PM

+1,000

VegasRick on January 26, 2013 at 6:06 PM

The second amendment doesn’t apply to government. Neither does any of the rest of the Bill of Rights.

They apply to the citizens. Government HAS NO RIGHTS, it has enumerated powers.

If the People cannot keep and bear arms then the government can’t. No one in government is entitled to any freedom the People do not enjoy.

wildcat72 on January 26, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Her pinstripes make her look just like a gangster!

Paul-Cincy on January 26, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Ma and Pa Barfer.

VegasRick on January 26, 2013 at 6:06 PM

I believe someone on here posted a little blurb about how she turned in her personal weapon in S.F. after she decided to quit packing. She, with great fanfare and cameras rolling, turned it in to the local sheriff,…he glanced down at it in the box, then looked again. She turned it in loaded! :)

a capella on January 26, 2013 at 6:08 PM

I’d like both these Moms to testify before Congress ASAP. Wonder what Feinstein would have to say after that.

gophergirl on January 26, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Feinstein would pound fists. WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE!!!!!!
For those who seek to limit freedom, the ends justify the means, always.

Jackalope on January 26, 2013 at 6:08 PM

She looks like a 1920′s gangster in that getup.

El Salsero on January 26, 2013 at 6:10 PM

“It’s coitains for you, Rocky! Myaah! Coitains!”

El Salsero on January 26, 2013 at 6:11 PM

As for the hoops you have to jump through to get a weapon “grandfathered”; that’s funny coming from a woman who thinks that presenting a valid picture ID to vote IS TOO BURDENSOME!

GarandFan on January 26, 2013 at 6:01 PM

It’s probably racist to bring that up. /

Drained Brain on January 26, 2013 at 6:11 PM

It bears repeating that Feinstein is failing in trigger discipline…a perfect example of the problem being the person, not the firearm.

Jackalope on January 26, 2013 at 6:12 PM

gophergirl on January 26, 2013 at 6:04 PM

So true, GG. So true

Weight of Glory on January 26, 2013 at 6:16 PM

A caller on Mark Levin’s show the other day, pointed out that Democrats are big on saying that it is better that criminals go free rather than one innocent man be but in jail. He wanted to know why that doesn’t work for legal law abiding gun owners. I think it’s a good point.

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Does anyone think her outfit was thought out or just a lucky accident for us?

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 6:17 PM

My senior US Senator is THE REASON the Founding Fathers wrote the 2nd Amendment..

Khun Joe on January 26, 2013 at 6:18 PM

The second amendment doesn’t apply to government. Neither does any of the rest of the Bill of Rights.

They apply to the citizens. Government HAS NO RIGHTS, it has enumerated powers.

If the People cannot keep and bear arms then the government can’t. No one in government is entitled to any freedom the People do not enjoy.

wildcat72 on January 26, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Any lawyers here? Could we apply this logic to ObamaCare and bring another suit? I mean, if it’s such an awesome law why are they exempt?

A caller on Mark Levin’s show the other day, pointed out that Democrats are big on saying that it is better that criminals go free rather than one innocent man be but in jail. He wanted to know why that doesn’t work for legal law abiding gun owners. I think it’s a good point.

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 6:16 PM

I heard that caller too. Awesome.

jawkneemusic on January 26, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Does anyone think her outfit was thought out or just a lucky accident for us?

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 6:17 PM

I think it’s fair to say she “shot from the hip”.

BADA-BING!

Thank you. Please tip your wait staff.

El Salsero on January 26, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Because they need them to hunt Americans.

pat on January 26, 2013 at 6:23 PM

“I believe in the Second Amendment. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won’t take your handgun away… But I am not going to take your guns away. So if you want to find an excuse not to vote for me, don’t use that one because it just ain’t true. It ain’t true.”

- Barack Obama, 2008


Pic of the Day: Liar, Liar!

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Is hollywood coming out with a new flick about the SLA starring Feinstien as Patty Hearst??

rik on January 26, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Presumably you’re only allowed to believe the government might become tyrannical and still be a respected political figure and college professor if your weapon of choice was a nail bomb meant for Ft. Dix.

First class snark right there.

AZfederalist on January 26, 2013 at 6:28 PM

Her pinstripes make her look just like a gangster!

Paul-Cincy on January 26, 2013 at 6:04 PM

…she IS!…only diff is she uses political connections to make her family money!… oh..,oh wait!

KOOLAID2 on January 26, 2013 at 6:28 PM

I’m always confused by how liberals— the segment of the population most obsessed with constantly telling us of our country’s sins, its government’s brutal overreaches, its occasional tyranny, and its fundamental disregard for the justice it promises— suddenly decide the idea of governments becoming tyrannical is a paranoid delusion once the wary citizen is a gun owner.

+100. I always thought the first Occupy Whatever protest after they abolish the 2nd amendment would be very enlightening to this “police brutality” crowd.

HellCat on January 26, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Her pinstripes make her look just like a gangster!

Paul-Cincy on January 26, 2013 at 6:04 PM

I wonder if the Dillinger look was intentional.

dentarthurdent on January 26, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 6:24 PM

I like your blog!

Jackalope on January 26, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Elitist scum.

jawkneemusic on January 26, 2013 at 5:51 PM

It’s like we’re already living in the Soviet Union. They get their special privileges and exemptions and dachas, and Pravda — our version of it — goes along with it all.

rrpjr on January 26, 2013 at 6:32 PM

I’d like both these Moms to testify before Congress ASAP. Wonder what Feinstein would have to say after that.

gophergirl on January 26, 2013 at 6:03 PM

I’d like both these women and others like them to appear with the Republicans for their response to the SOTU. With the message that these women and their children would likely be maimed or dead if the policies Obama proposed in his speech had been in effect.

AZfederalist on January 26, 2013 at 6:32 PM

It’s like we’re already living in the Soviet Union. They get their special privileges and exemptions and dachas, and Pravda — our version of it — goes along with it all.

rrpjr on January 26, 2013 at 6:32 PM

What amazes me is the real Pravda is more on our side than any news media in this country.

dentarthurdent on January 26, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Get your filthy freaking finger out of that trigger guard! Keep your filthy leftists hands of the guns entirely!

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Get your filthy freaking finger out of that trigger guard! Keep your filthy leftists hands of the guns entirely!

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 6:33 PM

I personally think it would be hilarious if she accidently shot somebody in that room….

dentarthurdent on January 26, 2013 at 6:35 PM

This statement from a gun grabbing march in D.C. this afternoon.

“The issue is guns. The Second Amendment gives us the right to own guns, but it’s not the right to own any gun,” she said. “These are assault weapons, made for killing people.”

How on earth did our citizens ever get this stupid!?!?

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 6:35 PM

It’s like we’re already living in the Soviet Union. They get their special privileges and exemptions and dachas, and Pravda — our version of it — goes along with it all.

rrpjr on January 26, 2013 at 6:32 PM

No kidding. This is a worthy argument against anti-gun zealots. Even some of my most leftwing friends in California couldn’t disagree that if we’re all created equal than government shouldn’t be allowed weapons if we’re not allowed weapons. Now they realize the government is never going to give theirs up so they understand at least to some extent why we won’t give up ours.

jawkneemusic on January 26, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Instead of saved or created, we need to start pushing a discouraged or destroyed theme. I’ve never been bothered because I look like I’m packing. No guns No guess work. Punk heaven

rik on January 26, 2013 at 6:37 PM

All this garbage is sure doing a number on the availability of ammo and magazines.

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Safety.

Thankfully someone had her weapon in safety mode.

dentarthurdent on January 26, 2013 at 6:35 PM

I would not wish that someone had been shot. Though the laugh having had the weapon go off would have been grand. Lol!

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Lots of back orders.

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 6:39 PM

I personally think it would be hilarious if she accidently shot somebody in that room….

dentarthurdent on January 26, 2013 at 6:35 PM

She did. The truth.

rik on January 26, 2013 at 6:39 PM

There needs to be a law against exempting elected federal politicians and federal employees from the laws that apply to the rest of us, such as Obamacare and gun control.

petefrt on January 26, 2013 at 6:41 PM

She did. The truth.

rik on January 26, 2013 at 6:39 PM

That’s no accident though – she always kills the truth – intentionally.

dentarthurdent on January 26, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Lots of back orders.

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Ya – I just got a partial order of .223 ammo from Cabela’s. The rest is still backordered now until late February.

dentarthurdent on January 26, 2013 at 6:44 PM

It’s like we’re already living in the Soviet Union. They get their special privileges and exemptions and dachas, and Pravda — our version of it — goes along with it all.

rrpjr on January 26, 2013 at 6:32 PM

I feel like Rip Van Winkle, as though I’ve awoken in a land I do not recognize as home.

petefrt on January 26, 2013 at 6:45 PM

What amazes me is the real Pravda is more on our side than any news media in this country.

dentarthurdent on January 26, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Yes, Pravda has higher standards and greater professional self respect, as their critiques of the American MSM have illustrated.

rrpjr on January 26, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Yep and lots of folks are limiting the orders.

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 6:46 PM

May she and all the hypocrites spontaneously combust.

May all politicians who exempt themseves from any law, spontaneously combust. May you all go to Hades.

Schadenfreude on January 26, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Yep and lots of folks are limiting the orders.

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 6:46 PM

I stopped in at Sportsman’s Warehouse yesterday afternoon. They implemented a 3 box limit a couple weeks ago, and all their shipments come in on Friday mornings. There was no .223 or 5.56 on the shlef – unlike last week. A clerk told me there were nearly 1000 people in the store, and they started lining up outside at 2 am for a 10 am opening. So even with the 3 box limit, it was all gone in 10 minutes.

dentarthurdent on January 26, 2013 at 6:52 PM

If a citizen shouldn’t have an AR-15 then WHY does a retired cop need them?

That’s the one that also confuses me. The cop is retired. He isn’t a cop anymore.

Spade on January 26, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 6:46 PM

When it does return to normal, folks would be well advised to stock up big time. If they didn’t before all of this nonsense. ; )

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 6:54 PM

N ot to worry, not to fuss, those altruistic unselfish government officials will loan their persoanl bodyguards to the poor innocent people who live in America’s Democratic inner-city war zones.

Don L on January 26, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Her husband and her cheat the land with many millions from Medicare. He even changed the name of his business. She and him s/b in jail.

Schadenfreude on January 26, 2013 at 6:56 PM

Why does a government official need 100 rounds and an AR-15? Especially if nobody else does?

That’s what it’s all about though, isn’t it. Government people are superior to us ordinary people. We’re sheep to be controlled. To be taxed. We work for them. We’re not to be trusted. They, of course, are.

That’s why, like the man said, it’s illegal to lie to congress. But when congress lies to us.. that’s just politics.

JellyToast on January 26, 2013 at 6:56 PM

If a citizen shouldn’t have an AR-15 then WHY does a retired cop need them?

That’s the one that also confuses me. The cop is retired. He isn’t a cop anymore.

Spade on January 26, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Good point. I’d like to see someone ask that question.

dentarthurdent on January 26, 2013 at 6:56 PM

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Lots of back orders.

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 6:39 PM

…people will get handy and entrepreneurial… and start making molds….like in the old days?

KOOLAID2 on January 26, 2013 at 6:57 PM

dentarthurdent on January 26, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Yep, as I’ve mentioned before WalMarts shelves make Old Mother Hubbard look like Whole Foods. A lot of on line folks won’t even take back orders for magazines and some that did are coming back to those customers and telling the they can only get a certain number of their orders. Regardless of whether the politicians ill conceived plans work, their stirring the pot is have a similar effect.

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Hey, Hot Air. If you are too dumb to eliminate or turn off your automatic and self initiation ads, you are too dumb for any of us to pay any attention to.

Old Country Boy on January 26, 2013 at 6:57 PM

They know what’s best for you, comrades.

BallisticBob on January 26, 2013 at 6:58 PM

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Absolutely. This isn’t the last time we will go to this rodeo.

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 6:58 PM

Old Country Boy on January 26, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Are you using Firefox with AdBlock?

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Yep, as I’ve mentioned before WalMarts shelves make Old Mother Hubbard look like Whole Foods. A lot of on line folks won’t even take back orders for magazines and some that did are coming back to those customers and telling the they can only get a certain number of their orders. Regardless of whether the politicians ill conceived plans work, their stirring the pot is have a similar effect.

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Yup – I ordered some 30 round AR mags from The Mako Group back in the first week of January. When I made the orders, their web site said they would ship in about 10 days. They just notified me that they were shipped out today – after I sent them an email asking what was happening.

dentarthurdent on January 26, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Absolutely. This isn’t the last time we will go to this rodeo.

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 6:58 PM

Yep. I plan on over stocking on things I never even thought I wanted after this is shot to hell. Wait did I just say shot! Oh, my!

VegasRick on January 26, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Yup – I ordered some 30 round AR mags from The Mako Group back in the first week of January. When I made the orders, their web site said they would ship in about 10 days. They just notified me that they were shipped out today – after I sent them an email asking what was happening.

dentarthurdent on January 26, 2013 at 7:00 PM

I tried ordering some XDM 9mm mags from CTD the other day – would not even let me backorder.

VegasRick on January 26, 2013 at 7:06 PM

Yep, as I’ve mentioned before WalMarts shelves make Old Mother Hubbard look like Whole Foods. A lot of on line folks won’t even take back orders for magazines and some that did are coming back to those customers and telling the they can only get a certain number of their orders. Regardless of whether the politicians ill conceived plans work, their stirring the pot is have a similar effect.

Cindy Munford on January 26, 2013 at 6:57 PM

On the other hand, while at Sportsman’s Warehouse yesterday, I did manage to pick up a couple 30 round AK mags for $14 each.
And one of our local gun heros – Dragon Man – just got in a big supply of 30 round AR and AK mags – but he wants $30 each for them. So I passed on those today even though I was there to pick up my new Draco AK pistol.

dentarthurdent on January 26, 2013 at 7:07 PM

I tried ordering some XDM 9mm mags from CTD the other day – would not even let me backorder.

VegasRick on January 26, 2013 at 7:06 PM

Ya – I’ve had no luck anywhere getting more S&W M&P9 17 round mags.

dentarthurdent on January 26, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Radley Balko has never met a murderer he didn’t love and willing to lie for.

Blake on January 26, 2013 at 7:09 PM

…people will get handy and entrepreneurial… and start making molds….like in the old days?

KOOLAID2 on January 26, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Or get a 3D printer… like in the new days.

petefrt on January 26, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Two words. Machine Shop.

Bmore on January 26, 2013 at 7:15 PM

“I believe in the Second Amendment. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won’t take your handgun away… But I am not going to take your guns away. So if you want to find an excuse not to vote for me, don’t use that one because it just ain’t true. It ain’t true.”

- Barack Obama, 2008

Pic of the Day: Liar, Liar!

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 6:24 PM

..technically, he did not lie, RWM. He’ll have the government do it.

The War Planner on January 26, 2013 at 7:20 PM

And one of our local gun heroes – Dragon Man – just got in a big supply of 30 round AR and AK mags – but he wants $30 each for them. So I passed on those today even though I was there to pick up my new Draco AK pistol.

dentarthurdent on January 26, 2013 at 7:07 PM

..save the receipts so you can grandfather them. In CA, if they were legal, I would gladly pay $30 for a 30-rd mag.

The War Planner on January 26, 2013 at 7:22 PM

Hey, Hot Air. If you are too dumb to eliminate or turn off your automatic and self initiation ads, you are too dumb for any of us to pay any attention to.

Old Country Boy on January 26, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Always make me laugh how mad people get when all they have to do is turn on and ad block plugin.

jawkneemusic on January 26, 2013 at 7:23 PM

Yup – I ordered some 30 round AR mags from The Mako Group back in the first week of January. When I made the orders, their web site said they would ship in about 10 days. They just notified me that they were shipped out today – after I sent them an email asking what was happening.

dentarthurdent on January 26, 2013 at 7:00 PM

I think you and I ordered them on the same day actually. I got my email today saying they were on the way as well. That was without me contacting them, so they seem to be keeping their word on those. But I see now that they’ve had to push back the wait until 6 to 12 weeks. This is how crazy things are getting.

I was only able to get three for money reasons, giving me a total of five. But at least five is better than none for now. Who knows what Congress is going to do in the coming weeks.

(Congrats on the Draco, btw. I’m surpised you were able to score one in this market.)

WhatSlushfund on January 26, 2013 at 7:24 PM

“I believe in the Second Amendment. I will not take your shotgun away. I will not take your rifle away. I won’t take your handgun away… But I am not going to take your guns away. So if you want to find an excuse not to vote for me, don’t use that one because it just ain’t true. It ain’t true.”
- Barack Obama, 2008

Pic of the Day: Liar, Liar!

Resist We Much on January 26, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Not really a lie, just incomplete. To make it a truth, just add the word, “yet to the end of each of his statements.

I.e:

“I believe in the Second Amendment.
I will not take your shotgun away yet.
I will not take your rifle away yet.
I won’t take your handgun away yet
… But I am not going to take your guns away yet.
So if you want to find an excuse not to vote for me, don’t use that one because it just ain’t true yet. It ain’t true yet.”
- Barack Obama, 2008

AZfederalist on January 26, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Obama – Gun Salesman of the Century!

VegasRick on January 26, 2013 at 7:32 PM

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