Report: Bipartisan Senate group nearing agreement on comprehensive immigration proposal

posted at 5:15 pm on January 25, 2013 by Allahpundit

Who’s in the group? Chuck Schumer, Dick Durbin, Bob Menendez, Marco Rubio and, er, Lindsey Graham and McCain. So you know this bill will be solid.

Before you start grumbling, look: The big cave on amnesty is coming. It’s a fait accompli. Make peace with it. Latino voters didn’t cost the GOP the election this time but the demographics are such that that won’t always be true if Republicans continue to lose the group by 70/30 or 75/25 margins. Now is the time to show some goodwill by legalizing millions of illegal immigrants and adding them, eventually, to the voter rolls. Maybe then we’ll only lose 60/40.

Their timetable would aim for a bill to be written by March or April and potentially considered for final passage in the Senate as early as the summer. Proponents believe adoption in the GOP-held House would be made easier with a strong bipartisan vote in the Senate.

The working group’s principles would address stricter border control, better employer verification of workers’ immigration status, new visas for temporary agriculture workers and expanding the number of visas available for skilled engineers. They would also include a call to help young people who were brought to the country illegally as children by their parents become citizens and to normalize the status of the nation’s 11 million illegal immigrants.

But obstacles abound. For instance, Rubio has said he believes immigrants who came to the country illegally should be able to earn a work permit. But he has said they should be required to seek citizenship through existing avenues, and only after those who have come to the country legally.

Democrats and immigration advocates fear that approach could result in wait-times stretching for decades, creating a class of permanent legal residents for whom the benefits of citizenship appear unattainable. They have pushed to create new pathways to citizenship specifically available to those who achieve legal residency as part a reform effort.

It is not yet clear if the Senate group will endorse a mechanism allowing such people to eventually become citizens — something Obama is expected to champion. Schumer said it would be “relatively detailed,” but would not “get down into the weeds.”

A source close to Rubio said he joined the group in December at the request of other members only after they agreed their effort would line up with his own principles for reform, which he outlined in an interview with the Wall Street Journal three weeks ago.

Rubio wants to do this in a series of smaller bills but Democrats don’t like that idea any more than they like the idea of delayed citizenship. Smaller bills might slow the legalization process by making amnesty contingent upon the achievement of quantifiable successes in reducing illegal immigration (which has already shrunk considerably thanks to the recession) and improving workplace enforcement. Mark Krikorian prefers the piecemeal approach too — e.g., a limited DREAM amnesty if and only if e-Verify is fully implemented — but thinks we’re going to get rolled on the citizenship process, even if the Senate ends up opting for Rubio’s “existing avenues” approach:

Also on Levin’s show, Senator Rubio clarified his “path to citizenship.” The illegals would all get amnesty immediately, of course, but they would only have a renewable work visa. After a time, they’d be able to apply for green cards (that could lead to citizenship) only through the existing immigration system by, say, marrying a citizen or what have you. Practically speaking, that would mean millions of the amnestied illegal aliens would remain in that work-visa status for the rest of their lives, creating a strong issue for Democrats: “Vote for us and we’ll end the Jim Crow immigration status the evil Republicans have imposed on you!” We’d lose Hispanic market share with that kind of approach.

Yeah, it’s impossible to imagine this process resulting in a situation where Democrats aren’t still demagoging Republicans over immigration. It’s too useful a weapon for them electorally; even Obama’s rhetoric, which usually sounds semi-exalted even when he’s accusing the GOP of wanting to starve grandma and see kindergarteners get shot, turns more overtly vicious when discussing this subject. The GOP would have to rubber-stamp whatever Democrats proposed in order to get off scot free, and even then some Dems would grumble. You don’t give up a 70/30 advantage with one of the country’s fastest growing demographics lightly. And if that wasn’t enough inducement for Republicans to compromise, recent polls are on Democrats’ side here. CNN found that a majority now think the government’s priority should be finding a way to let illegals become legal residents; a few years ago, that majority prioritized deportation. An AP poll found more than six in 10 Americans now support eventual citizenship for illegals, including 53 percent of Republicans. Even the national exit poll taken on election day found 65 percent support for letting illegals apply at some point for “legal status.” Democrats would love to see the GOP block this, and the Republican leadership knows it.

It’s Friday and we need a laugh so here’s a reminder that McCain pretended to be a border hawk during his 2010 Senate reelection campaign. Exit question: When was the last time a senator on either side held as much sway over his caucus on a major issue as Rubio now does over the GOP on this? It’s impossible to imagine Republicans filibustering a bill if he supports it. He has the power to all but guarantee that something will pass the Senate.


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Legalization does not need to a path to citizenship.

besser tot als rot on January 25, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Legalization does not need to include a path to citizenship.

besser tot als rot on January 25, 2013 at 5:17 PM

“Let’s legalize millions of people who will vote for the other Party in order to keep their government checks coming.”

-The Stupid Party

Nessuno on January 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Even the national exit poll taken on election day found 65 percent support for letting illegal apply at some point for “legal status.”

Legal status includes a deportation order.

BobMbx on January 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Legalization does not need to include a path to citizenship.

besser tot als rot on January 25, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Legalization should automatically BAR any path to citizenship. Once identified, they should be biometrically identified and bared from ever becoming a citizen.

astonerii on January 25, 2013 at 5:19 PM

As long as it doesnt end up like the black voter block. And ifthe house blocks it? all the better

Flapjackmaka on January 25, 2013 at 5:19 PM

And legalization really does need to occur. People have no idea what goes on with illegal aliens, but they essentially get special status because the cops don’t want to have to deal with them.

For example, get pulled over drunk, with an open container an no license? They might get busted for the no license, but more likely will just be let go (and will be able to pick up the impounded vehicle even though it is not registered in their name).

Legalization, if done right, could bring some actual accountability and responsibility to residency. But, citizenship should not be an option except through traditional routes.

besser tot als rot on January 25, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Why does Hot Air continue to push amnesty when its clear that the base hates it?

Hera on January 25, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Bipartisan

This has become one of the frailest words in the political vernacular.

Bmore on January 25, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Not going to win the GOP a single vote.

El_Terrible on January 25, 2013 at 5:22 PM

No mention of a border wall, so no deal.

sentinelrules on January 25, 2013 at 5:22 PM

It was going to happen at some point. Perry gives it a big thumbs up

Flapjackmaka on January 25, 2013 at 5:22 PM

1986 Amnesty didn’t work and neither will 2013/2014 Amnesty.

sentinelrules on January 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Why does Hot Air continue to push amnesty when its clear that the base hates it?

Hera on January 25, 2013 at 5:21 PM

I’m pushing it? Check your sarcasm meter re: the intro to my post. I’m saying it’s going to happen even though you and I don’t like it.

Even if I was pushing it, are you suggesting I should never disagree with the base on anything? I’m an atheist. Little late for that.

Allahpundit on January 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Why does Hot Air continue to push amnesty when its clear that the base hates it?

Hera on January 25, 2013 at 5:21 PM

How was this “pushing” for amnesty? And must they post everything that’s in lockstep with what the base wants (whatever that is)?

changer1701 on January 25, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Unless they’re filling the Rio Grande with ill-tempered sea bass, no deal.

Chuck Schick on January 25, 2013 at 5:26 PM

When was the last time a senator on either side held as much sway over his caucus on a major issue as Rubio now does over the GOP on this? It’s impossible to imagine Republicans filibustering a bill if he supports it. He has the power to all but guarantee that something will pass the Senate.

Maybe we should have stuck with Crist.

It will be interesting to see Rubio and Ted Cruz vote opposite ways on amnesty.

Jon0815 on January 25, 2013 at 5:27 PM

They become legalized, so they can’t be used for illegal labor (with no workman comp, safety requirements, or insurance). They lose their jobs, many ending up on welfare because of it, while ANOTHER 15 million come across the border for the jobs that essentially REQUIRE an illegal status to be employed at it. Clear as day what will happen- and REALLY STUPID for the GOP to participate in it.

michaelo on January 25, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Estamos jodida

catmman on January 25, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Amnesty will be considered an Obama victory. GOP will still be called a racist party. Amnesty loving Latinos will see vindication in voting for Obama.

We absolutely have to kill amnesty. Besides, people like Hugo Chavez/Rafael Correa/Evo Moralez/Cristina Kerchner get elected for a reason…. free stuff campaigns. Will not help.

El_Terrible on January 25, 2013 at 5:29 PM

And all the mexicans will go to California. It’s the one most like Mexico

Flapjackmaka on January 25, 2013 at 5:29 PM

I hate it when we have to depend on the House.

Cindy Munford on January 25, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Who woulda thunk that the nation would be lost due to a ethnic group that considers birth control to be an abomination.

sentinelrules on January 25, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Allahpundit on January 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM

You’re an atheist?!?!?

Cindy Munford on January 25, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Should we title the bill The Rubio 2016 Presidential Campaign Act?

Illinidiva on January 25, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Legalization is bound to happen eventually, but stick to enforcement first. If we lose the House in 2014, it’ll be for caving repeatedly.

El_Terrible on January 25, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Should we title the bill The Rubio 2016 Presidential Campaign Act?

Illinidiva on January 25, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Haha. Yes.

El_Terrible on January 25, 2013 at 5:33 PM

And Obama will once again steal Rubio’s thunder next week with his own proposal announcements:

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/white-house-senators-starting-push-immigration

can_con on January 25, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Cindy Munford on January 25, 2013 at 5:31 PM

You didn’t know that?

Bmore on January 25, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Can we at least agree to deport the ones filling up the prisons? Why would THAT be divisive? Are we in favor of more crime? (I know…don’t answer that.)

pecan pie on January 25, 2013 at 5:35 PM

No, it’s so much smarter to scream at the top of my lungs RINOS SHAMNEXTY SQUISH SQUISH YOU’RE NOT A CONSERVATUV!!!11!

John the Libertarian on January 25, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Why are illegals being given work visas ?
Instead of handing them amnesty and the stepping stone to chain migration of poverty and illitracy by this foolishness ,
why not make employers sponsor these illegals as their employees , pay their payroll taxes and open up the company/employer finances since the day they claim they employed the said illegal and cheated the US ?
If no employer wants the illegal, the illegal has to take their anchor babies and leave .

burrata on January 25, 2013 at 5:36 PM

El_Terrible on January 25, 2013 at 5:33 PM

You could always tie amnesty to economic indicators in the way way way out years. Say when unemployment is at 2%?

Seems to work well for Washington with spending cuts. //

can_con on January 25, 2013 at 5:36 PM

GD all these traitors.

SirGawain on January 25, 2013 at 5:36 PM

burrata on January 25, 2013 at 5:36 PM

I don’t want to pay $20 for a bag of oranges!

can_con on January 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Bmore on January 25, 2013 at 5:35 PM

I don’t know how to do a smiley face.

Cindy Munford on January 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM

My experience with people I know who were legalized after the 1986 amnesty is that most of them are satisfied with just a green card. Most don’t make the effort to get full citizenship. A few even plan on going back to Mexico after retirement. So if the path to citizenship requires some great effort we might not end up with large numbers of voting Hispanic citizens that we fear.

Mark1971 on January 25, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Dumb.

Pork-Chop on January 25, 2013 at 5:38 PM

John the Libertarian on January 25, 2013 at 5:36 PM

I think we have all the usual suspects in place that would lend credence to you doing that.

Cindy Munford on January 25, 2013 at 5:39 PM

The big cave on amnesty is coming. It’s a fait accompli. Make peace with it.

NO!

1986 – “There will be NO more amnesty. We will secure our borders!”

Well the pols got their amnesty and conveniently forgot about the 2nd part…….which is why we’re back in the same boat today!

FIX THE BORDER. THEN we’ll talk. If enough people took that attitude, those Senators would be talking a different tune.

GarandFan on January 25, 2013 at 5:39 PM

I don’t know how to do a smiley face.

Cindy Munford on January 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Lol! Here I borrowed one from Dire a while back. You are free to borrow it anytime. ; ) : )

Bmore on January 25, 2013 at 5:39 PM

of course it’s a fait accompli
with establishment hacks like Ed Morrissey agitating for this the day after the election.

Slade73 on January 25, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Not going to win the GOP a single vote.

El_Terrible on January 25, 2013 at 5:22 PM

They already lost them mine, so I wish them luck picking up those imaginary votes while losing all those real votes.

DFCtomm on January 25, 2013 at 5:40 PM

The conservatives will get nothing from this. PERIOD!

What remains to be determined is the tricky sausage-making that will give the globalist traitors every last vote possible, while guaranteeing that all immigration lawyers will suffer no loss of revenue.

ROCnPhilly on January 25, 2013 at 5:41 PM

A few even plan on going back to Mexico after retirement. So if the path to citizenship requires some great effort we might not end up with large numbers of voting Hispanic citizens that we fear.

Mark1971 on January 25, 2013 at 5:38 PM

That might be true… anyone know how many Dreamer’s singed up for amnesty?

I know they told us it would be about 800,000 eligible, but then changed it to 2 million… but how many actually signed up so far?

El_Terrible on January 25, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Didn’t McLame promise that border security would be done first before amnesty? We put a lid on this several years ago but I always knew they’d come back for another try at this brass ring just not this soon. The same cast of characters are involved. Seems they didn’t get the message thru their thick skulls the last time around or they just don’t care what we want anymore.

Kissmygrits on January 25, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Allah,

How do you know amnesty is going to pass this time? The last bipartisan amnesty lead by Bush was going to happen yet somehow it was defeated by the American people.I’ve warned the GOP that if amnesty passes with even one Republican vote I’m dumping the GOP and voting third party.We all know the GOP can stop any amnesty in the House and by next year Obama will be the lamest of lame ducks.So time for the GOP to put up or shutup. The GOP can either choose their base or take a chance on Hispanics who didn’t support the GOP after Reagan signed the last amnesty.

Hera on January 25, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Answered my own question…

355,000 immigrants have stepped forward to claim their right to “deferred action” status, despite the fact that an estimated 1.7 million should qualify, according to the Pew Hispanic Center.

El_Terrible on January 25, 2013 at 5:44 PM

AMNESTY for ILLEGALS: another nail in America’s coffin.

TeaPartyNation on January 25, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Bmore on January 25, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Thanks.

Cindy Munford on January 25, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Hera on January 25, 2013 at 5:43 PM

I’m hoping they spend all year debating spending and taxes, leaving everything else off the table.

El_Terrible on January 25, 2013 at 5:46 PM

I’m saying it’s going to happen even though you and I don’t like it.

Allahpundit on January 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM

It would be nice if there was at least one HA blogger who wasn’t either openly pushing amnesty (Ed and Erica), or demoralizing the opposition to it with unjustified fatalism.

Whether Obama gets to sign an amnesty probably depends on whether Boehner will violate the Hastert Rule again to pass it in the House. Which, at worst, is up in the air, and Steve King seems pretty convinced it won’t happen:

Rep. Steve King says not to expect more Hastert-rule defying votes in House

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/278259-steve-king-says-not-to-expect-hastert-rule-defying-votes-in-house#ixzz2J1vkBc9C

Jon0815 on January 25, 2013 at 5:47 PM

These freaking politicians are just too dumb to care.

rplat on January 25, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Rubio’s logic is not, and has no, zero, nada, never, not-going-to-happen, and an impossible chance of seeing the light of day.

This is why Republican’s lose. Speaking out both sides of their mouths with non-solutions.

HopeHeFails on January 25, 2013 at 5:48 PM

As long as it doesnt end up like the black voter block…

Flapjackmaka on January 25, 2013 at 5:19 PM

I hate to borrow AP’s Eeyore tone, but Hispanics pretty much already do vote as a block for Dems. The Dems, along with enthusiastic help from the MSM and Hollywood, have successfully branded themselves as the only legitimate choice for minorities, women and LGBT voters. The GOP has, at this point in time, definitively lost that battle. We are broccoli, they are no-calorie ice cream. Our only option to stay relevant is to aim small and local and start re-building with common sense policies that address issues close to people. Average voters are so poorly informed that they vote on emotion or whim, eg for the better looking candidate (my girlfriend’s mentally challenged daughter) or what handouts they get (my otherwise sharp and sensible girlfriend who voted for Obama because “He’s the only one guaranteed to keep my daughter’s benefits coming.”). I am not optimistic about the next decade.

inmypajamas on January 25, 2013 at 5:48 PM

I don’t want to pay $20 for a bag of oranges!

can_con on January 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM

IF ANYONE deserves any amnesty , it is the employers who
( knowingly or unknowingly ) employed illegals , and want to keep that work force employed for their business and are also ready to pay their share of taxes together with their illegal employees .
If an employer wants the illegal, promises to keep the illegal employed and the illegal become disbarred from receiving any welfare, food stamps etc. for the next 10 years, a work visa
( which is just that , a work visa and not a path to citizenship) can work out for the benefit of our country. Otherwise it is just another kick in the face to our country’s economy, which is Idi Hussein’s motive anyway.

burrata on January 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM

El_Terrible:

Many ILLEGALS put-off pursuing OBOZO’s illegal AMNESTY vote-for-me-gift until after the Nov election for fear that an American would be elected president. Now that the dictator remains in power, look for the rest of those 2+ million to crawl out of the sewers to claim their OBOZO gifts.

TeaPartyNation on January 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM

1986 Amnesty didn’t work and neither will 2013/2014 Amnesty.

sentinelrules on January 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Yup. How many times do the Democrats have to flat out lie in order for the Republicans to stop making these deals? Oh, right. The Stupid Party.

LoganSix on January 25, 2013 at 5:50 PM

>>Latino voters didn’t cost the GOP the election this time but the demographics are such that that won’t always be true if Republicans continue to lose the group by 70/30 or 75/25 margins.

Via legalization, we can overcome those numbers with volume.

Maxpower on January 25, 2013 at 5:50 PM

This news is not encouraging. I’m one who has thought that Rubio’s recent explanation of his plan was worth discussing and building upon, but he doesn’t have a prayer of his plan passing muster in this group of senators. I’m sure they would consider it way too restrictive.

With the fix being in, I would almost be willing to accept legalization (but no citizenship) IF we verifiably close the borders AND we end birthright citizenship and chain migration.

KickandSwimMom on January 25, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Now is the time to show some goodwill by legalizing millions of illegal immigrants and adding them, eventually, to the voter rolls. Maybe then we’ll only lose 60/40.

Yeah, 60/40 in 2016 and then we lose them 70/30 in 2020 as Hispanics continue to be poor and vote Democrat for entitlements.

sentinelrules on January 25, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Many ILLEGALS put-off pursuing OBOZO’s illegal AMNESTY vote-for-me-gift until after the Nov election for fear that an American would be elected president. Now that the dictator remains in power, look for the rest of those 2+ million to crawl out of the sewers to claim their OBOZO gifts.

TeaPartyNation on January 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM

You’re right… prior to the election it was around 50,000 applications.. Now its at close to 400,000.

El_Terrible on January 25, 2013 at 5:54 PM

1. Two Party Evil Money Cult of Elites in Washington D.C..

2. Follow the money, every low bid by any goverment, school board, county, city, state, federal is won by the contractor who uses the highest number of illegals and pays them the least. This in turn makes the local, state and national leaders look like they are getting things built done on the cheap.

3. Our freedom, our liberty, our constitution is the cost that we all pay.

4. Just look at the liar Democrats.
“Oh no CO2 is killing the planet” but 20 million more people in the country with cars and all the production needed to support that,,, oh, thats not a problem. They lie.

5. The Republicans,, all about the rule of law, until it comes to wage slaves.

6. Lazy American cut their own lazy throats.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 25, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Liberals and Rhinos agreeing on anything, does not constitute a bipartisan agreement.

listens2glenn on January 25, 2013 at 5:55 PM

I know y’all want to see this again.

October 10, 2010

DanMan’s Manifesto on the illegal alien situation.

First a few basic knowns.
1. There are somewhere between 12 to 25 million illegal aliens living in this country. Something like 4% to 8.5% of the US population or so.
2. We have many incentives besides employment opportunities that lure illegal immigrants and extend our social safety net.
3. We are probably the only developed country in the world that rewards illegal aliens having babies within our borders by granting them some sort of status that eventually allows them to bring in their extended families for similar status.

Suppose we reform our approach to illegal immigration enforcement. Let’s set a date certain our new immigration laws are strictly enforced and that would include no allowance for providing a US birth certificate for any baby born to a non legal resident citizen. Not a green card holder’s baby, not a consulate member’s baby, not a sight seeing tourist’s baby, no interpretation at all. On that same date we cut off all social services to any non legal resident. If this seems draconian, just insert whatever tenets we place in our new immigration laws that we can consider “comprehensive”, but it must include enforcement. Of course this date certain will mean we have the ability to enforce our borders. If the borders cannot be certified to be sealed, permanently cut all of congress’ pay by 20% until it can be certified sealed. Cut an additional 10% per week until it is achieved.

Now we have a window of 24 years since we last granted amnesty that will have the birthdays of the millions of people who were born here to non legal residents and their relatives. Let’s assume they all want to become citizens and we give them a pathway. They will have to register by a certain date and provide key elements of identification that will be matched biometrically (it’s our country, they are not yet citizens, we get to make the rules).*UPDATE: Perhaps an identification card with GPS capabilities could be a viable option since it is already a requirement to carry ID and it would also allow us to track them.* After this date certain our data base potential should not be growing at all so that at least gives us some time to breathe. The data we collect will determine the potential status to start the process to citizenship. Criteria would include several categories and include command of the language, criminal record, record of paying taxes, record of using social services, etc. The information will be sorted to move those most assimilated towards the top and those that have shown to be a net loss lower in status. For those that have criminal records, evaluate them. Use of social services, evaluate them, allow them to pay our country back to improve the status. Basically allow for the sorting of the people that want to become to citizens and have shown the ability and willingness to improve themselves the opportunity to filter up and the least desirables to filter down with the chance to improve their condition.

All of these people will be in line BEHIND the people that are currently going through our legal process. None of them can achieve citizenship faster than a regular case emigrant that is in line on the date certain. That should not be that much of a hardship since they will basically be allowed to live their lives as they are except for the use of social services, which will not be available. That would also stop the political parties from reaching for/worried about a major imbalance of political power as we just saw in Nevada. It may take 10 years to get the mess sorted out but the beauty is the people that are waiting and working and improving their lives will have a vested interest in obeying the law to keep their status and they will know that they will not be kicked out if they do so. By the time they get citizenship they will be assimilated and have a stake in this country. They will have had time to see how our country works. For those that don’t want to make the sacrifice, ahem…go home.

I do not accept that an illegal alien that has gotten away with living here for a year is invested in our nation or state. I worked the entire time I was in college from delivering the Chronicle to working at UPS at night, waiting tables, working for the school, basically anything I could find. I paid full ride for my kids to attend A&M and UT with no assistance from anybody. It was hard and it did not allow my wife and I an opportunity to put aside anything for the years we paid that tuition.

DanMan on January 25, 2013 at 5:57 PM

I’ll do this and risk getting booted off this blog.

May be that Hot Air owners got the loan to make this blog go from Bank of America, aka Illegal Immigrant Bank International.

like that follow the money

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 25, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Republicans = Wage Slaves

Democrats = Vote Slaves

Slavery is not a moral thing.

The U.S. will be judged for its sins.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM

It isn’t enough to have sex with underage Caribbean prostitutes, Menendez wants to make them citizens too.

Slade73 on January 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM

This brings into focus today’s news that Saxby Chambliss won’t be running… he’s a snake and knows he’d be primaried and booted out of office in GA after being involved in this immigration sell-out.

gatorboy on January 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Get rid of anchor babies by amending the 14th Amendment. This is the most important reform that needs to happen. The GOP needs to get something in return and this should be it.

RedRobin145 on January 25, 2013 at 6:00 PM

If Obama doesn’t destroy the GOP, conservatives should.

voiceofreason on January 25, 2013 at 6:00 PM

“path to citizenship”—-DOG WHISTLE for Conservatives.

Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!
Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!
Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!
Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!
Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!
Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!
Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!
Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!
Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!Amnesty!

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

These republicans are either traitors or idiots. Do they not see what this will do to the states of TEXAS and other now marginally red states?

Are they Idiots or traitorously evil?

PappyD61 on January 25, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Amnesty is the final nail in the coffin of the despicable republican party at a national level.

NO republican can win without Texas.

PappyD61 on January 25, 2013 at 6:02 PM

I wish Malkin was still here. At least she would inflame the base to melt the phones…oh well, we should all just bend over and accept it I suppose.

Mr. Arrogant on January 25, 2013 at 6:03 PM

PappyD61 on January 25, 2013 at 6:01 PM

I’m going with the first one.

Cindy Munford on January 25, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Otherwise it is just another kick in the face to our country’s economy, which is Idi Hussein’s motive anyway.

burrata on January 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM

My comment about $20 oranges was tongue in cheek, but really, isn’t this the same argument that comes from all those Walmart bashers?

Always complaining about the poor underpaid employees or that the drive for cheapest prices results in outsourcing production overseas, neglecting to mention the benefits purchasers receive from their increased buying power.

Cheap products and wages are a way of life in North America. No turning back that clock. But you can turn back the clock on illegal immigration. Just gotta have a little (In the words of the famed America Wrestler Mick Foley) “Testicular fortitude”.

can_con on January 25, 2013 at 6:04 PM

The two party evil money cult who voted to spend, spend, spend all these years hopes this path to citizenship fraud will bring enough tax money in to keep we the people from hanging them for treason due to the lies and fraud they used to spend the U.S.A. undone.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 25, 2013 at 6:04 PM

It isn’t enough to have sex with underage Caribbean prostitutes, Menendez wants to make them citizens too.

Slade73 on January 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM

I’m not for amnesty, but I think that after going through something like that, maybe we can cut them a little slack.

El_Terrible on January 25, 2013 at 6:05 PM

How does adding millions of new voters who vote 60/40 (or 70/30 or 75/25) Democratic help the GOP? It is political suicide.

Looking on the bright side, the death of the GOP will fan the flames of the “Let It Burn” fire.

cool breeze on January 25, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Might as well include language in the bill to deal with the next 20,000,000 who will now come since apparently sealing the border is more difficult than a manned mission to Mars.

How about we trade? McCrypt Keeper, Breck Girl Jr., and the communist Dems can have all the Mexican citizens and finish setting up their 3rd World banana republic; and we horrible racist Whites will take Mexico (as well as our Constitution, flag, military, and nukes).

Kungfoochimp on January 25, 2013 at 6:10 PM

It isn’t enough to have sex with underage Caribbean prostitutes, Menendez wants to make them citizens too.

Slade73 on January 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM

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I’m not for amnesty, but I think that after going through something like that, maybe we can cut them a little slack.

El_Terrible on January 25, 2013 at 6:05 PM

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I can’t speak first-hand as I wasn’t there, but maybe those girls were really that good.

listens2glenn on January 25, 2013 at 6:10 PM

IIRC it was George Carlin who said:

“Bipartisan: Something far greater than the usual swindle is being pushed through.”

viking01 on January 25, 2013 at 6:10 PM

El_Terrible on January 25, 2013 at 6:05 PM

haha, good point

Slade73 on January 25, 2013 at 6:11 PM

I can predict that this is going to pass. Why the hell would Republicans tank Rubio’s Presidential campaign?

Illinidiva on January 25, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Hey GOP! This is the future. What are you going to do with all this cheap labor once it’s no longer needed. I guarantee you that they will vote Democrat then, but the machines won’t be voting GOP.

P.S. Watch all the video the money shot is at the end.

DFCtomm on January 25, 2013 at 6:12 PM

…..the 1986 Amnesty DID WORK!!!!

If your goal is the weakening of the US sovereignty and the path towards a greater North American Union of some sort.

So the 2013 Amnesty will finish the job.

And these politicians are looking out for the “greater good”. :-)))

PappyD61 on January 25, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Rubio is really starting to remind me of McCain.

Bmore on January 25, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Now is the time to show some goodwill by legalizing millions of illegal immigrants and adding them, eventually, to the voter rolls. Maybe then we’ll only lose 60/40.

AP, this is extremely stupid. The best thing to do is hold off as long as possible.

ninjapirate on January 25, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Or maybe it’s Graham.

Bmore on January 25, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Now is the time to show some goodwill by legalizing millions of illegal immigrants and adding them, eventually, to the voter rolls. Maybe then we’ll only lose 60/40.

I’m guessing that’s what republicans were saying in ’86 when Reagan did the same thing, definition of insanity yadda yadda…..

clearbluesky on January 25, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Or add 20 million new Demoncrat voters and loose by 90/10.

federale86 on January 25, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Time to get active again.

Join and start faxing.

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/

voiceofreason on January 25, 2013 at 6:27 PM

AP, this is extremely stupid. The best thing to do is hold off as long as possible.

ninjapirate on January 25, 2013 at 6:16 PM

He might be sarcastic there? It’s confusingly written, but AP was against amnesty yesterday. It’d be weird to flip-flop so soon.

sauldalinsky on January 25, 2013 at 6:34 PM

As long as it doesnt end up like the black voter block. And ifthe house blocks it? all the better

Flapjackmaka on January 25, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Will never happen. Conservatives need to get this notion out of their heads that Hispanics or Asians are like African-Americans. They are not. The majority of African-Americans have become socially militant because of slavery, segregation, and years of race baiting, which in turn makes it harder for them to properly integrate into the population. It is happening but at a much slower pace.

Hispanics on the other hand came here on their own. They have a 25% “interracial” marriage percentage, mostly with whites, and a little over 50% think they are white or “white Hispanic” as the NYT calls them. Hispanics are also leaving the Catholic church, some of which are converting to evangelical churches, which over time will make them more conservative (60% of this group voted for Bush). Hispanics themselves are not even a single racial group and divided among themselves on all sorts of issues. What we are seeing today in terms of Hispanics voting for progressives is the worst it will ever be in terms of percentage.

Why? Lets look at the past. If your ancestors came here post 1890s to a place like Ellis Island there is a good chance they thought Teddy, Wilson, FDR, etc. were wonderful and government was great. However as time went on they became more conservative as a group, so that they and/or their children ended up voting overwhelming for people like Ronald Reagan.

Conservatives are buying too much in the progressive scare tactics. That places like Texas will become blue. All the GOP has to do is win 35-40% of Hispanics in short term and Texas stays Red for next 50 years. In the long term it will become more red as as more and more Hispanics integrate and intermarry with whites. Just like the Irish, Italians, and Eastern Europeans did with British/German-Americans.

California is a disaster because white communists took over the place starting the late 1960s. No wonder the new immigrants coming to places like California do what all immigrants do throughout the history of this country….go with the flow. It takes awhile for them to soak in that America is more than New York and California.

The problem with the immigration debate is certain conservatives have a hard time discussing this issue without dumping on legal Hispanic immigrants and other legal immigrants. Calling illegal immigrants from Mexico scum, socialist, potential parasites, turns them off even if they actually agree with you on deporting illegal immigrants.

People I am sure know my position on this. I am somewhat partial to Rubio’s position (for now) because I actually think he is pushing a poison pill to force democrats to stall the issue on their own or provides a excuse for doing nothing on immigration when the Democrats reject Rubio’s plan by the GOP. It is clear the Democrats are wary of Rubio. Obviously if Rubio caves and accepts a democrat version,etc. I will have a different opinion on this.

All I am saying the idea that Hispanics and Asians are going to be in the pocket of the democrat party like African-Americans is silly and is not backed by history. The Obama coalition is a fragile one despite the MSMs hype over it. They have too many factions and many don’t agree or have anything in common with each other. In fact some are outright rivals, like African-Americans and many Hispanics.

William Eaton on January 25, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Comprehensive = You’re screwed (courtesy of both parties).

ironked on January 25, 2013 at 6:38 PM

BTW…….anyone heard from Palin on the gun grab or on this new Amnesty SHINOLA sandwich?

What about Cruz?

Obama is an AMERICAN DICTATOR!!!!

PappyD61 on January 25, 2013 at 6:45 PM

All I am saying the idea that Hispanics and Asians are going to be in the pocket of the democrat party like African-Americans is silly and is not backed by history. The Obama coalition is a fragile one despite the MSMs hype over it. They have too many factions and many don’t agree or have anything in common with each other. In fact some are outright rivals, like African-Americans and many Hispanics.

William Eaton on January 25, 2013 at 6:38 PM

You assume assimilation, but currently we celebrate diversity, and with the influx of millions upon millions why would they ever have to integrate. They all live together and bring their culture with them. News flash it’s not the 1880s anymore.

DFCtomm on January 25, 2013 at 6:48 PM

This man will not leave office without throwing this country into a crisis.

….and the republicans will just whimper like the pieces of ——- they have become.

WHERE ARE THE PATRIOTS that care about this country????

PappyD61 on January 25, 2013 at 6:49 PM

“First do no harm.” Politicians should have a Hippocratic oath. Because all they do is harm.

rrpjr on January 25, 2013 at 6:52 PM

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