Gingrich to Piers Morgan: Let’s hold gun-control hearings in Chicago
posted at 3:54 pm on January 25, 2013 by Allahpundit
Twelve minutes long but worth watching in full, partly because Gingrich is in fine form and partly because it’s a nice demonstration of how futile and bad-faith the “debate” over guns is. Morgan’s point is straightforward: If gun-rights fans think it’s okay to ban machine guns because rapid-fire weapons are too dangerous for the public to own, why not ban assault rifles? Granted, automatics fire much more rapidly than semiautomatics, but you can still get off an awful lot of shots quickly with an AR-15 if you’re pulling the trigger fast enough. Gingrich comes at that logic from the other direction: If semiautomatic rifles are banworthy because you can fire rapidly in volume with them, why aren’t semiautomatic pistols also banworthy?
The answer, if you talk to an honest gun-control advocate, is that they are. They’d love to ban all semiautomatics. It’s wildly illogical to focus only on one type if you’re worried about rapid-fire weapons, to the point where Morgan is left arguing here that we need to get rid of rifles but not pistols because, um, well, that’s the sort of weapon that lunatics like James Holmes and Adam Lanza seem to prefer — as if they wouldn’t resort to pistols if rifles were off the market. (Holmes and Lanza both had semiautomatic pistols on them during the shootings, in fact. My hunch is that the reason spree killers prefer “assault rifles” to pistols has little to do with lethality and everything to do with image. They’re on an insane power trip, and a bigger gun that resembles a machine gun adds to the thrill.) But Morgan knows that banning all semiautomatics won’t fly politically, at least right now, because most Americans believe in the right to own a gun and semiautomatic pistols are by far the most common type of gun that they own. So he’s forced to push this phony distinction between rifles and pistols to keep up the “reasonable regulations” facade and reassure fencesitters that he only wants to eliminate a few really dangerous guns, not the sort of guns found in many American homes that are … almost precisely as dangerous as the “really dangerous” ones he wants to ban.
Hence Gingrich’s point about the gun-control slippery slope. You can’t trust Morgan et al. to ban one class of weapons but no other; the logic of their position ultimately won’t allow it. And the failure of their polices will only be used as an argument that they haven’t gone far enough. That’s why he’s emphasizing Chicago. But never mind all that. Per WaPo, it sounds like Obama might have some of the Sandy Hook families in attendance at the SOTU, so unless you want to be a hateful bastard who doesn’t care that children were murdered, it’s time to stand aside.
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The guys down at the lube rack were talking about these scandals just this morning.
docflash on May 17, 2013 at 10:39 AM
I guess it all depends on how you define “scandal.” Since incompetence, corruption and lying to cover it all up has become the standard operating procedure of this administration, then maybe Carney has a point…
rcpjr on May 17, 2013 at 10:41 AM
Carny is…Well, an a$$hole.
Not much more to be said.
Liam on May 17, 2013 at 10:43 AM
The opportunity to spin out total malarkey on a major league level doesn’t come along often in a sociopaths life. Doing these foul moments the justice they deserve is certainly called for,as he says.
And to Piers Morgan, no less!
MTF on May 17, 2013 at 10:43 AM
Carney: Please, GeppettObama, pull my strings! I’m not a real boy yet! And why is my nose so long? Jiminy, where are you?
Steve Z on May 17, 2013 at 10:44 AM
Everyone in liberaldom denies the elephant in the room until it sits on them (or something that rhymes with “sits”).
Alberta_Patriot on May 17, 2013 at 10:44 AM
“There are no Americans in Baghdad!”
Akzed on May 17, 2013 at 10:45 AM
Benghazi wasn’t a terrorist attack. It was simply inappropriate behavior by some Muslims.
The Rogue Tomato on May 17, 2013 at 10:45 AM
Our “Tourist King” President
J_Crater on May 17, 2013 at 10:45 AM
“These aren’t scandals, Obama isn’t a dictator, Obamacare isn’t causing healthcare costs to rise, and I’m not a jackwagon.”
applebutter on May 17, 2013 at 10:46 AM
There’s a special place in hell reserved for you Mr. Carney.
Defenestratus on May 17, 2013 at 10:47 AM
This was last night? So after Piers gave him a tongue-bath, Crazy Larry O’Donnell blew air kisses to dry him off.
Marcus on May 17, 2013 at 10:47 AM
Scandal?
A scandal is when your wife finds you in bed with her best friend and the whole town finds out about it.
Benghazi is not a scandal. It is murder.
The IRS is not a scandal. It is clearly targeting those who wished to exercise their Rights, under law, and were following the law, and still were targeted.
DoJ tapping the phones of the AP…is not a scandal.
Solyndra is not a scandal.
None of these, and all the rest, are scandals.
They are all part and parcel to a White House which holds every American who is not a card-carrying or water-carrying Progressive in utter contempt.
The real scandal is, truly is, how many stupid or just plain avaricious Americans actually voted for this Obama guy, and the millions who will go to their graves protecting him. ‘Cuz he historic or somethin’.
coldwarrior on May 17, 2013 at 10:50 AM
Everyone on the left seems to have gone Baghdad Bob on this issue.
NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 10:50 AM
Uhhhh…Bevis tell Butthead what scandals there are.
Uhhhh….. OK!
1.Regime tapping phones of AP
2.Regime not coming to help people at Benghazi.
3.IRS screwing over applications for tax free status only for tea p Party types.
Uh… Bevis should I go on?
Nahhh….We gotta score….
rodguy911 on May 17, 2013 at 10:50 AM
Civil rights violations too.
forest on May 17, 2013 at 10:51 AM
“I would say that it’s been a challenging week, but in many ways a week that I’ve enjoyed,” Carney told CNN’s Piers Morgan.”
That’s Carney-speak for, “I’m about to be fired!”
Stepan on May 17, 2013 at 10:51 AM
He’s just speaking to the Obama voting base. You’ve seen them, I’ve seen them, there’s nothing they won’t excuse.
MNHawk on May 17, 2013 at 10:52 AM
Keep in mind: Those fat cat CEOs on Wall St are responsible for every employee action in their international operations.
Even single rogue traders 3000 miles away.
Ben Hur on May 17, 2013 at 10:52 AM
Your foolish jedi mind trick won’t work on me.
reddevil on May 17, 2013 at 10:52 AM
Carney is an epic spokesman. No shame. No hesitation in lying, distorting, dodging and obfuscating.
He’s the prefect representative for Obama.
gwelf on May 17, 2013 at 10:54 AM
This guy is the clown jewel. It is really laughable to watch him.
rjoco1 on May 17, 2013 at 10:55 AM
Tell that to the families of the 4 dead Americans, Jay. I’m sure they would agree with you that it should just be dismissed with a chuckle.
KS Rex on May 17, 2013 at 10:55 AM
‘Toons of the Day: The Sergeant Schultz Administration
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 10:57 AM
Jay, see what you have become. Time to walk away. Soon you will have nothing that was you. Obama will suck your soul, spit it out and move on to another dupe.
StevC on May 17, 2013 at 10:57 AM
thanks RWM
excellent work as usual.
CoffeeLover on May 17, 2013 at 10:58 AM
Don’t like the word “scandal” Jay? Ok, let’s try “colossal clusterfark,” “mind-boggling incompetence,” “crap-weasel ethics”, “deliberate obfuscation” . . . Any of those work for you, Jay?
natasha333 on May 17, 2013 at 10:59 AM
That’s pretty funny Ed.
I think Carney is in a state of Bliss…Must be the Gubmint Crack he gets for free…
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 10:59 AM
He pretty much is the face of this administration. Snarky, unprofessional, arrogant, dishonest, and a fool.
LeftCoastRight on May 17, 2013 at 10:59 AM
Pic of the Day: Clown Carney & The Three-Scandal Circus
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:01 AM
Well, this guy told Piers Morgan that he rather “enjoyed”
this week….in other words, he enjoyed Lying to the public.
This man’s Life is a Lie, it is what Leftists do.
So to him, this is SOP.
ToddPA on May 17, 2013 at 11:01 AM
Lying crap weasel says what?!?
CitizenEgg on May 17, 2013 at 11:02 AM
His perception of reality leads me to believe that Jay Carney has mental problems.
portlandon on May 17, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Maybe he’s been smoking too much crack.
scalleywag on May 17, 2013 at 11:04 AM
The reason why he says it not a scandal is because its just the normal operating procedure for this administration.
vcferlita on May 17, 2013 at 11:04 AM
“It’s not a scandal until we say it’s a scandal”. Um, Jay, by the same token – just because you say it isn’t a scandal doesn’t make it true. Coincidentally, much of what you say isn’t true… odd, huh? Now go back to sticking your fingers in your ears and chanting, “La, la, la”.
ghostwalker1 on May 17, 2013 at 11:05 AM
Jay Carney: Douche extraordinaire.
UltimateBob on May 17, 2013 at 11:05 AM
It’s cute how the GOP thinks these scandals aren’t going away. They will be gone within a week or so from any mainstream outlets.
Sure, there will be kicking and screaming on the conservative blogs and Rush and occasionally Fox, but the “scandals” will move into the ether. The press is already getting bored with it.
We can’t rely on the GOP to attack Dems. They don’t have it in them. It’s not how the game works. Scandals only count if they’re Republican scandals.
happytobehere on May 17, 2013 at 11:07 AM
Old Jay, bless his heart, makes Ron Zeigler look like a piker. Seriously, he has raised mendacity, obfustication, and misdirection to true art forms. Translation for the libbies: He’s one heck of a liar, and does his boss proud. Oh, and he’s a total bunghole, too, but I guess you knew that.
Try this one, Jay. It worked so well the first time:
“If my answers sound confusing, I think they are confusing because the questions are confusing and the situation is confusing.”
Ron Zeigler
creekspecter on May 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM
The only one that is a legit scandal is the DOJ harassment of the AP. The GOP has been exposed as doctoring e-mails to fit their narrative and to smear Susan Rice (no apology yet) and the IRS situation is the result of an independent agency acting in an inappropriate manner. But do continue to push and push on these and see how long the American people care I guess.
libfreeordie on May 17, 2013 at 11:09 AM
Scandals? What scandals?
Jay “Benghazi Bob” Carney has nothing left he can say without lying, so he must deny, deny, deny.
farsighted on May 17, 2013 at 11:11 AM
“These are not the droids that you’re looking for”
“Move along”
cajunpatriot on May 17, 2013 at 11:11 AM
ESAD
BeachBum on May 17, 2013 at 11:11 AM
it’s sad to realize that this country has its own version of Baghdad Bob.
HarryStar on May 17, 2013 at 11:13 AM
Bagdad carney… :0
Tilly on May 17, 2013 at 11:13 AM
These aren’t scandals .. as scandals swirl around allegations
These are crimes
J_Crater on May 17, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Watergate=scandal…
#Obamascandaltrifecta=opportunities.
Would it not be awesome for one member of the Press to say “Jay, next time before you address us, you might want to wipe the drizzle of the chin”.
hillsoftx on May 17, 2013 at 11:17 AM
Who will hire Jay Carney now? I trust a used car salesman over him.
rbj on May 17, 2013 at 11:17 AM
..head, rectum, sunshine, etc.
The War Planner on May 17, 2013 at 11:17 AM
Oops, sorry, it’s Zielger, not Zeigler. Brain too slow this morning.
creekspecter on May 17, 2013 at 11:18 AM
Coffee Lover, just doing my ‘community organising’ bit! :-)
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:18 AM
Isn’t it amazing this guy actually gets paid to do this…my 14 year old son could do a better job, but he’d probably slip up and tell the truth.
kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Seriously, Baghdad Bob is gonna sue you guys for copyright infringement.
NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 11:20 AM
These “American people” you speak of? Are they the same ones that voted for Obama because he has such great leadership experience? He is good at leading us off of the cliff.
You are truly delusional. I hope the Kool-Aid is tasty going down.
kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Oh, lovemeordie, you got stuck with a bootleg copy of Jay Carney’s Greatest Hits. You need to spend the bucks, and pick up Revision 12. The lies are so much more polished in the studio version.
creekspecter on May 17, 2013 at 11:26 AM
Found yourself a compassionate rape counselor yet dear?
Remember, it’s not your fault. You need help. Your fat juicy healthcare benefits plan probably even covers it.
slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Your same post gets my same answer:
Pathetic.
Will do.
Per Gallup:
74% of Americans believe that the IRS targeting of conservative groups is serious enough to warrant continuing investigation.
69% of Americans believe that Benghazi is serious enough to warrant continuing investigation.
Per Rasmussen:
* 57% Want IRS Offenders Jailed or Fired
* Just 16% of Likely U.S. Voters believe the IRS investigations of these groups were a coincidence
* 57% think the investigations were politically motivated
* 55% think it is at least somewhat likely that President Obama or his top aides were aware that Tea Party and other conservative groups were targeted by the IRS
* Only 7% of voters believe no disciplinary action should be taken against the IRS employees involved in the investigations
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:32 AM
Classy.
What on earth?
libfreeordie on May 17, 2013 at 11:33 AM
A totally discredited polling outfit. No thanks.
Show me the polls which say that the American people believe the President is responsible for the IRS scandal. But continued investigation is not the same thing as saying “we believe there was wrongdoing.” Its not a scandal until something has been proven scandalous. And the only thing I’m seeing in the news today about Benghazi is that GOP lawmakers lied and doctored e-mails in an attempt to screw Susan Rice and Hillary Clinton…and they haven’t acknowledged those lies.
libfreeordie on May 17, 2013 at 11:39 AM
Yeah, I learned from you.
BeachBum on May 17, 2013 at 11:41 AM
Oh, please. If the IRS had been targeted black liberal groups you’d be freaking out. Or was Nixon just misunderstood too?
For another thing the IRS actions were criminal – not “inappropriate behavior”.
gwelf on May 17, 2013 at 11:44 AM
Holy Crap! The GOP created the YouTube video lie! This is HUGE! The GOP denied security in Benghazi! The GOP decided to prevent military intervention in the attack! You’ve really broken things wide open here!
gwelf on May 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM
The GOP lied and doctored emails? No, I’m sure if anything “inappropriate” happened it was the lone wolf actions of some intern in Cincinnati who did it.
gwelf on May 17, 2013 at 11:50 AM
That’s going to leave a mark.
You may have banished the troll from this thread.
gwelf on May 17, 2013 at 11:52 AM
That can’t be true. Obama’s administration is the most transparent ever
/libfreeordie
gwelf on May 17, 2013 at 11:54 AM
You do need help, your problems are obvious.
It’s not your fault.
slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM
The White House has been exposed as making up that lie. The GOP didn’t doctor e-mails because THEY NEVER HAD THEM! The White House would only let them LOOK AT them, not make copies, so, of course, some of their note-taking wasn’t 100% perfect. Then the White House blew up that imperfect transcribing that they caused into a GOP scandal, until they were exposed and were forced to release the full text of the messages.
You’re such a brainless tool, libfree.
Socratease on May 17, 2013 at 11:57 AM
i.e, “I love my job. I get to lie and obfuscate and i get paid for doing it.”
AZfederalist on May 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM
Speaking of which, libfree, sequi, HAL and the rest of the trolls here, do you get paid to come here and obfuscate for Obama? … or do you do it for free? i.e, are you pros or just sluts for the administration?
AZfederalist on May 17, 2013 at 12:01 PM
Hey Jay, if you think that was fun, you’ll have a blast with Darrell Issa and his committee! But not as much of a blast as Ambassador Stevens got!
Steve Z on May 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM
New Strategy – it’s all a dream woooo woooo wooooo!!!!
Honestly though, if the press wants to pretend it’s nothing then the low information voter will probably go along with it. I mean with the new normal being what it is… can you really call something a scandal when everything this president does is underhanded, a lie, corrupt, condescending, lazy, etc? It’s a scandal he got re-elected!
Ukiah on May 17, 2013 at 12:07 PM
The IRS isn’t ‘independent’: it exists as a part of the Treasury Dept. and reports through the head of the Treasury Dept.
That was TurboTax Tim Geithner.
Why are you trying to protect Little Timmy Geithner from accountability by repeating the ‘independent’ concept?
ajacksonian on May 17, 2013 at 12:25 PM
…you can tell…he worked at TIME magazine!
KOOLAID2 on May 17, 2013 at 12:25 PM
You see very limited news.
Are you actually trying to claim that the admin didn’t perpetrate a lie by blaming Benghazi on the youtube video?
This is entertaining.
blink on May 17, 2013 at 12:25 PM
Errrrrrrr
Already debunked as yet another WH lie, but keep flailing. You’re really cute when you’re desperate, dear.
F- (Del Dolemonte TM)
ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM
Why is he so verklempt then?
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 1:11 PM
libnotfree and his racist dummy idiots
Sugah-daddy must be protected at all idiotic cost. To expect this little of the first half black president is the ultimate form of racism.
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 1:20 PM
And I dismiss your dismissal…
Pest on May 17, 2013 at 2:34 PM
Carney still thinks Americans believe if they clicks their heels together he can get a free trip to Kansas.
Stop the abortions, free lunches and condoms and watch them turn on you guys like the fouled animals they’ve become.
The dirty little secret about far too many Americans-in both parties is that they don’t desire freedom-they desire guilt free licenses to do their evil-and are more than willing to take my freedom away in the process.
Don L on May 17, 2013 at 3:27 PM
Never saw a puppet without a master controlling its voice from a shadowy dark place.
Don L on May 17, 2013 at 4:26 PM
Bad week for “Doogie Howser: Boy Press Secretary” it seems.
As Krauthammer remarked after the first briefing this week, “Carney seems perfectly comfortable with lying, he’s just not very good at it.” You’d think a guy who worked for Obama would work on the skill, since it is one of the few things his boss does well.
Adjoran on May 17, 2013 at 5:45 PM
fossten on May 18, 2013 at 8:10 AM