Ryan: Full speed ahead on the sequester, unless Democrats agree to other cuts

posted at 11:01 am on January 24, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

At the end of last year, Barack Obama had the advantage of time for his effort to get tax hikes.  If House Republicans refused to bend on tax increases on high-end earners, taxes would go up anyway on everyone.  That leverage allowed Obama to score a big legislative victory on New Years Day, although not as big as he’d hoped.

Now, however, time is on the side of Republicans.  Thanks to the 2011 Budget Control Act’s “sequesters,” spending cuts will hit whether Obama agrees to a budget plan to reduce overall spending or not.  And Republicans, led by Paul Ryan, have taken a page from Obama’s book and will cheerfully allow them to hit, whether they like the impact or not:

Republicans will insist that automatic spending cuts take effect March 1 unless other cuts are adopted, Ryan said. They may force a shutdown of the government on March 27 unless Democrats agree to additional cuts. And they will demand that any future increase in the debt limit – likely to be necessary this summer if the measure to suspend the current debt limit is adopted — be paired dollar-for-dollar with spending cuts or other reforms.

“We have a sequester kicking in on March 1, a continuing resolution [on the budget] expiring on March the 27. We have budgets that, if the Senate decides to do its job this year, will come out in April,” Ryan said Wednesday at a breakfast with reporters. “These are the kind of points we think force the kind of conversation we think we have to have.”

These sequester cuts are not popular, not inside or outside Washington.  The defense sequester is particularly problematic, but the entitlement sequester is almost as bad for liberals.  They were designed to be painful enough to force Congress into making more substantial cuts across the board to control spending, but that strategy ended up like every other cliff strategy over the past two years.

Interestingly, Obama may have fatally undermined the Democratic strategy on the defense sequester before the trap could be sprung.  The idea behind gouging the Pentagon was that it was such anathema to conservatives that Republicans would feel duty-bound to unwind it.  And that was working for a while; in 2012, Republicans repeatedly warned about the impact of the defense sequester on military readiness and the overall economy.

Once Obama picked Chuck Hagel to replace Leon Panetta as Secretary of Defense, however, that all became moot. Republicans have since become strangely quiet about the sequester’s impact. It’s very clear that Obama wants Hagel to enact deep cuts in military spending — or more accurately, be a front man for that policy with his service record and party affiliation as a shield.

If that’s what is coming anyway, well, why not let Hagel and Obama deal with the problems arising from the sequester?

Ryan’s threat to shut down the government falls into a similar category.  One reporter asked Ryan why Republicans would go to that extent to get spending under control:

When a reporter asked why Republicans would consider shutting down the government when the brinksmanship of the past two years has put the congressional approval rating in the teens, Ryan shot back: “So, we don’t have much to lose, do we? This is not about politics and what makes us popular. This is about what is the right thing to do.”

That could be Washington’s motto: When all else fails, do the right thing.


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I say let it happen. All sides agreed to this. Let it happen.

tbrickert on January 24, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Whatever Ryan. You voted to raise the debt ceiling yesterday. This is all a distraction. It’s business as usual.LOL..conservative – yeah right.

MoreLiberty on January 24, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Total agreement with Ryan on this, 0 makes it about politics and not what is the right thing to do.

0 just wants to score political points, it’s gonna fail.

This may hurt the Rs’ but down the road, doing the right thing is always best.

So, Go Ryan!!

Scrumpy on January 24, 2013 at 11:09 AM

I like this.

myrenovations on January 24, 2013 at 11:09 AM

Go for it!

thebrokenrattle on January 24, 2013 at 11:10 AM

It’s BS. The GOP will fold on this.

Mr. Arrogant on January 24, 2013 at 11:11 AM

That leverage allowed Obama to score a big legislative victory on New Years Day, although not as big as he’d hoped.

On the long run it is a huge defeat for the communists… Just remember that deep down the communists did not want to keep the Bush tax cuts for anyone because lower taxes go against the heart of the communist ideology… Also in order to fund their Welfare State they have to tax the middle class very heavily as there is not enough money among the wealthier to fund it… By making the Bush tax rates “permanent” for those making less than $ 400,000 a year they have put themselves into a very deep hole because it would be a political suicide for them to go and tax those making less $ 400,000 to fund their Welfare State…

mnjg on January 24, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Scrumpy!! Are you feeling better.

I am also going to add my kudos to this. The Rs have to finally decide to get in the game with O. And, play hardball as O has done over and over again.

Watching Kerry’s dog and pony show!!!

CoffeeLover on January 24, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Obama was going to claim credit anyway for not spending money on the Iraq war that is already over and done. Now it’s our turn.

Sequester away. Congress agreed to this. Let it burn.

The Schaef on January 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Do it now. 2014 is a long ways away, and it’s better to take any damage now then in the middle of campaign season next year.

strictnein on January 24, 2013 at 11:15 AM

If it goes into sequester, I go on unpaid work furlough … and, I still say GO FOR IT!

They’re raping the military budget anyway; might as well show the public what it’ll look like soon enough.

M240H on January 24, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Do it.

We need to cut the budget. If this is where and how we begin, so be it.

Spade on January 24, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Go Ryan

cmsinaz on January 24, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Cut everything by 50% across the board. Then next year, cut it again by another 50%.

What difference does is make?

LoganSix on January 24, 2013 at 11:20 AM

..any future increase in the debt limit … be paired dollar-for-dollar with spending cuts or other reforms.

Sounds akin to running up one’s credit cards, and then telling oneself that you will pay them off by sending an extra payment in, in the same amount just spent!?! Yeah, that always works…

Karmi on January 24, 2013 at 11:21 AM

Forget it it, Ryan. You and all your Repub buds don’t have what it takes. You all are just a bunch of candy-asses suckin’ up the labor of others.

davidk on January 24, 2013 at 11:21 AM

Blind nut finds a squirrel?

Archivarix on January 24, 2013 at 11:22 AM

Let it burn. Hell, let’s throw gas on the fire.

mchristian on January 24, 2013 at 11:22 AM

CoffeeLover on January 24, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Hi!! left a comment on last night’s QOTD!!

Not better but got meds!

Scrumpy on January 24, 2013 at 11:22 AM

Sounds akin to running up one’s credit cards, and then telling oneself that you will pay them off by sending an extra payment in, in the same amount just spent!?! Yeah, that always works…

Karmi on January 24, 2013 at 11:21 AM

Treading water is preferable to drowning.

strictnein on January 24, 2013 at 11:24 AM

The Congressional Budget Office said we could raise $114 billion over ten years — twice as much as raising the Medicare age — by limiting corporate tax deferrals. https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/01-2013-MultinationalTaxes_OneCol.pdf

U.S. Corporate Tax Rate Plunges To 40 Year Low Of 12 Percent http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204662204577199492233215330.html

U.S. Has Lowest Corporate Tax Rate In The Developed World For Over A Decade!
http://www.ctj.org/pdf/oecd201106.pdf

Corporate Profits At All-Time High http://articles.marketwatch.com/2011-07-29/commentary/30699039_1_profits-gdp-wages-and-salaries

Over 100 companies on the S&P500 received more in tax refunds and credits for the last 4 years than they paid. Of just the fortune 500 companies 280 corporations received a total of nearly $223 billion in tax subsidies,” said the report’s lead author, Robert McIntyre, director at Citizens for Tax Justice. “This is wasted money that could have gone to protect Medicare, create jobs and cut the deficit.”

JustTheFacts on January 24, 2013 at 11:24 AM

I am all for the sequester – the best (perhaps only) card the House is holding.

GOP had better not get “punked” by negotiating any changes to the sequester. They’d be better served to insist upon additional cuts to the sequester, whether they get them or not.

In other words, don’t let the $1.1 trillion in the sequester slip through their fingers. They’ve been played before, the Dems and the MSM are masters at this trade.

matthew8787 on January 24, 2013 at 11:25 AM

It’s BS. The GOP will fold on this.

Mr. Arrogant on January 24, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Yup.

Jackalope on January 24, 2013 at 11:25 AM

When a reporter asked why Republicans would consider shutting down the government when the brinksmanship of the past two years has put the congressional approval rating in the teens, Ryan shot back: “So, we don’t have much to lose, do we?

I love it.

VegasRick on January 24, 2013 at 11:26 AM

It’s BS. The GOP will fold on this.

Mr. Arrogant on January 24, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Sadly, you’re probably right.
All it will take is for Obama to say something mean about them in a speech, and the House GOP (nevermind the Senate) will fold like a lawnchair.

DRayRaven on January 24, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Let the sequester happen. Don’t negotiate on that. If the GOP is serious bout cutting spending, they won’t negotiate on the sequester. Cuts have to start somewhere. O/T And Scrumpy, good to see you. Was a tad worried when I didn’t see you on QOTD last night. The doc appt. went well, I presume.

tommy71 on January 24, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Hi!! left a comment on last night’s QOTD!!

Not better but got meds!

Scrumpy on January 24, 2013 at 11:22 AM

I must have alreadly logged off. I’ll go check for it now. Hopefully, those meds will kick in quick.

CoffeeLover on January 24, 2013 at 11:27 AM

A friend back home, up in Detroit, just told me it’s so cold there right now, he actually saw a democrat with their hands in their own pockets.

Flange on January 24, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Ryan shot back: “So, we don’t have much to lose, do we?

Too bad you never “shot back” at Biden during the debate. Or during the entire presidential campaign. Putz.

rrpjr on January 24, 2013 at 11:28 AM

If it goes into sequester, I go on unpaid work furlough … and, I still say GO FOR IT!

They’re raping the military budget anyway; might as well show the public what it’ll look like soon enough.

M240H on January 24, 2013 at 11:17 AM

They are going to do it either way. I hope you are okay and are prepared.

VegasRick on January 24, 2013 at 11:28 AM

“We have a sequester kicking in on March 1, a continuing resolution [on the budget] expiring on March the 27. We have budgets that, if the Senate decides to do its job this year, will come out in April,”

This is why I think kicking the debt ceiling can for another three months was good strategy if not entirely popular. They only have to mean it when they say the Dems are going have to come up with cuts or shut the government down.

Happy Nomad on January 24, 2013 at 11:29 AM

CoffeeLover on January 24, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Oops posted it this morning!!

Thank you for asking hon :-)

Scrumpy on January 24, 2013 at 11:31 AM

When a reporter asked why Republicans would consider shutting down the government when the brinksmanship of the past two years has put the congressional approval rating in the teens, Ryan shot back: “So, we don’t have much to lose, do we? This is not about politics and what makes us popular. This is about what is the right thing to do.”

…and then Bonehead will emotionally cave…talk big…achieve nothing…and talk about it was the best we could do or something!…a replay of every “crisis” over the last 4 years

KOOLAID2 on January 24, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Go for it! Let it crash. Then we’ll find out what’s REALLY important.

GarandFan on January 24, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Too bad you never “shot back” at Biden during the debate.

rrpjr on January 24, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Do you remember anything about that debate? Biden was nothing but a clown with a really creepy grin. How do you shoot back when your debating opponent is an idiot. As to the campaign, it was Romney’s campaign not Ryan’s.

And how the hell do you shoot back with talks of spending cuts to entitlement programs when the election was clearly won by virtue of convincing a bunch of greedy stupid worthless parasites (currently called low-information voters) that it was in their best interests to ask more from Uncle Obama and not demand less?

The joke is on the moochers though. They will be the first hit with any cuts because they are sucking the most out of the system. We’ll see just how much they adore their rat-eared idol and his filthy party then.

Happy Nomad on January 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Check my math: 1:1 spending to cuts is no cut at all. It just means you are taxing a dollar for every that you spend. Business as usual.

Well, that would be considered a ‘cut’ by Obama, the trillion dollar man, but it’s a joke and does nothing to reduce the debt.

Wasn’t it just a political year ago that we were talking $3 in cuts for every dollar of revenue? Sad Republicans.

Only in Washington with a country of 12 million illegals could this happen. For those in Rio Linda, that’s 2,700 illegals per day coming into this country.

We’re doomed.

HopeHeFails on January 24, 2013 at 11:36 AM

That could be Washington’s motto: When all else fails, do the right thing.

Minor tweek.

This would never be Washington’s motto: When all else fails, do the right thing.

Bmore on January 24, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Building a nice looking cave though. Just picking out the drapes at this point.

Bmore on January 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM

A friend back home, up in Detroit, just told me it’s so cold there right now, he actually saw a democrat with their hands in their own pockets.

Flange on January 24, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Too funny . I’m passing this on.

esr1951 on January 24, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Wondering what Reids success at killing the Filibuster will be?

“Bipartisan Filibuster Deal Is Taking Shape in the Senate.”

Bmore on January 24, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Only in Washington with a country of 12 million illegals could this happen. For those in Rio Linda, that’s 2,700 illegals per day coming into this country.

We’re doomed.

HopeHeFails on January 24, 2013 at 11:36 AM

obambi will fix the immigration problem in the next few years. he will eliminate the desire of anybody outside of the country of wanting to come here legally or illegally.

VegasRick on January 24, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Just needs 12 R’s to fall his way.

Bmore on January 24, 2013 at 11:41 AM

This is not about politics and what makes us popular. This is about what is the right thing to do.”

Hey Ryan, how about asserting yourself and get Boehner to step aside? It would be nice to actually have an opposition party again.

DanMan on January 24, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Bmore I think he’s going to get it. And then when the Rs get back in the future, they’ll do the right thing…even though I still wish the Rs would learn to play the game at least as well as the Ds. I don’t see it happening any time soon.

CoffeeLover on January 24, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Just needs 12 R’s to fall his way.

Bmore on January 24, 2013 at 11:41 AM

It ain’t gonna happen. He won’t even get enough “d”s.

VegasRick on January 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM

So, at 11% approval, Boehner is afraid Congress will be hated more for shutting down the government? Is he trying to maintain this mountain of approval?

You’re hated for doing something. You’re hated for doing nothing. Since you cannot win, how about you instead decide, “What is the best thing for the country rather than myself?”

Maybe then he’d see that more debt will destroy us, ergo less debt is necessary.

Shut it down, John. Trust me that it won’t hurt Congress’ approval rating.

Wino on January 15, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Ryan didn’t even give me credit for the idea.

Wino on January 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Forgive me if my right foot does not exactly swing through the kick. After all, I’m not Charlie Brown.

Steve Eggleston on January 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Now, however, time is on the side of Republicans.

You are such a hopeless dope.

I’m really starting to pity you.

Tim_CA on January 24, 2013 at 11:44 AM

VegasRick on January 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM

You don’t think he’ll use ‘reconciliation?’

CoffeeLover on January 24, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Link to the quote.

Wino on January 24, 2013 at 11:44 AM

After all, I’m not Charlie Brown.

Steve Eggleston on January 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Good thing!
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/01/23/actor-behind-voice-for-charlie-brown-arrested-for-stalking-ex-girlfriend/

VegasRick on January 24, 2013 at 11:46 AM

In a sane world:

Ryan to Obama: “those sequester cuts? I get those for free. We need an addition $500 billion. That’s per year.”

can_con on January 24, 2013 at 11:46 AM

CoffeeLover on January 24, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Hopeful he won’t have his way. The Senate switchboard is very busy. I know I have been wearing it out. My two from Ga. best be wise and not get snookered. Anyone else from Ga. Here ya go.

Sen. Saxby Chambliss: (202) 224-3521
Sen. Johnny Isakson: (202) 224-3643

Bmore on January 24, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Hat Tip for the Republicans – start calling deficit spending “future tax increases on the middle class”.

For example,

Today we send a budget to Harry Reid and Barack Obama – they both indicated that they would rather run up the deficit then cut funding for Cowboy Poetry Slams. — average voter? ZZZZzzzzz

Today we send a budget to Harry Reid and Barack Obama – they both indicated that they would rather raise taxes on the middle class by over a trillion dollars a year then cut funding for Cowboy Poetry Slams. –average voter… WHAT THE HELL?!?!?!

18-1 on January 24, 2013 at 11:47 AM

HeII even if you’re not from Ga. hound they’re asses.

Bmore on January 24, 2013 at 11:47 AM

Don’t listen to what he says. Watch what he does.

Yesterday he voted to raise the debt ceiling.

Paul Ryan = Con-artist.

(And for the commenters who will surely come to this thread whining about conservatives bashing Ryan over this, go soak your heads. I don’t want to hear it)

portlandon on January 24, 2013 at 11:48 AM

You don’t think he’ll use ‘reconciliation?’

CoffeeLover on January 24, 2013 at 11:44 AM

No. harry red will drop this thing before it even gets close to a vote or any other slimy attempt to get it passed. It is a way too big overreach even for the commie dems.

VegasRick on January 24, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Happy Nomad. Apparently some on Hot Air wanted Ryan to physically attack Baden. This was the only way to shut Biden up. I’m assuming Ryan didn’t do so because he likes having a career. He also didn’t want to spend the night in jail for assaulting the sitting VP. However, it is nice that Ryan is no longer playing second fiddle to Romney and is back to being the guy leading the Republican Party.

Illinidiva on January 24, 2013 at 11:50 AM

All it will take is for Obama to say something mean about them in a speech, and the House GOP (nevermind the Senate) will fold like a lawnchair.

Actually, it is worse then that.

Boehner and the Republican leadership consistently give in to Obama not due to incompetence, but because they don’t want to cut spending.

We’ve got two leftwing parties in DC now.

18-1 on January 24, 2013 at 11:51 AM

I doubt they have the political courage to do it. As soon as Zero calls them a few names they will fold like a lawn chair.

KCB on January 24, 2013 at 11:53 AM

All it will take is for Obama to say something mean about them in a speech, and the House GOP (nevermind the Senate) will fold like a lawnchair.

Wow. Guess I should have read the thread.

KCB on January 24, 2013 at 11:55 AM

VegasRick on January 24, 2013 at 11:46 AM

I saw that. I wonder if the ex was Lucy.

Steve Eggleston on January 24, 2013 at 11:56 AM

And they will demand that any future increase in the debt limit – likely to be necessary this summer if the measure to suspend the current debt limit is adopted — be paired dollar-for-dollar with spending cuts or other reforms.

What does that solve exactly? That doesn’t even get us to balance, let alone reducing the debt.

Here’s my suggestion: We will increase the debt ceiling if, and only if:

1. Automatic yearly increases in all spending, including mandatory spending, are eliminated. Any increase, even to keep pace with inflation, must be specifically enacted by Congress. (Make them own the spending.)

2. Baseline budgeting is eliminated as a matter of law. If it is to be considered a cut for budgetary purposes, then it must be a reducation versus what was actually spent in the most recent fiscal year, not a reduction in the projected rate of future growth. (Make them talk straight with the American people.)

3. For every dollar of increase in the debt ceiling, there must be $5 in cuts to the budget. (Make them actually do something substantial toward fixing the problem.)

Otherwise, let the debt ceiling be hit and force the cuts that way.

Shump on January 24, 2013 at 12:04 PM

U.S. Has Lowest Corporate Tax Rate In The Developed World For Over A Decade!
http://www.ctj.org/pdf/oecd201106.pdf

Did you actually read your little graph – it was 2009.

http://taxfoundation.org/article/countdown-over-were-1

It’s official. After eight years of having the second-highest corporate tax rate among industrialized countries, the United States has now assumed the top spot following Japan’s scheduled corporate rate cut on April 1, 2012. Since 2001, Japan had levied the highest combined corporate tax rate among OECD nations at 39.5 percent[1], slightly higher than the 39.2 percent combined federal-state rate in the U.S. Japan’s new rate is 38.01 percent, which includes a temporary 10 percent surtax that will expire after 2014.[2]

The combined corporate tax rate in the USA is 39.2%. The majority of companies in the United States are small companies, and dont qualify or afford to high tax attorneys that can give them the various deduction such as those used by General Electric. If we actually believed in “equality” the government would cut the rate to 15% and do away with all deductions.

MoreLiberty on January 24, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Once Obama picked Chuck Hagel to replace Leon Panetta as Secretary of Defense, however, that all became moot. Republicans have since become strangely quiet about the sequester’s impact. It’s very clear that Obama wants Hagel to enact deep cuts in military spending — or more accurately, be a front man for that policy with his service record and party affiliation as a shield.

If that’s what is coming anyway, well, why not let Hagel and Obama deal with the problems arising from the sequester?

BINGO! Right on the mark Ed.

WisRich on January 24, 2013 at 12:05 PM

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324624404578256442968768284.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEFTThirdBucket
This is why it’s hard
People don’t care about the deficit
Just like they don’t care about Benghazi or Fast & Furious
They don’t think the GOP cares about jobs, they think Obama cares about jobs
They don’t want to cut spending
Two years of confronting Obama got us nowhere
So the GOP needs to fight smart and win whatever small victories it can

breffnian on January 24, 2013 at 12:09 PM

Apparently some on Hot Air wanted Ryan to physically attack Baden. This was the only way to shut Biden up.
Illinidiva on January 24, 2013 at 11:50 AM

This sort of inane over-reaction and lack of imagination is why we’re losing. To posit that Ryan had only two choices — violence or conceding the floor to the japing, jeering Biden — is remarkable.

rrpjr on January 24, 2013 at 12:11 PM

I saw that. I wonder if the ex was Lucy.

Steve Eggleston on January 24, 2013 at 11:56 AM

She’s still pulling things away from poor old Chuck. Dude just couldn’t take it any more.

Flange on January 24, 2013 at 12:16 PM

This sort of inane over-reaction and lack of imagination is why we’re losing. To posit that Ryan had only two choices — violence or conceding the floor to the japing, jeering Biden — is remarkable.

rrpjr on January 24, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Ryan tried to tell him to stuff it during the way in a polite manner and that didn’t work. Biden was sent out there to act like a crazy person and wasn’t going to stop with a verbal putdown. The only other option was getting physical.

Illinidiva on January 24, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Don’t worry, Bohner and his henchmen will “bend over” and take it from Obama.

RADIOONE on January 24, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Another magic bone from the establishment. It will vaporize in a few weeks.

Mr. Arrogant on January 24, 2013 at 12:25 PM

The only other option was getting physical.

Illinidiva on January 24, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Absurd. You have a dearth of imagination, mixed with fear of media perception. As I said, it’s why we’re losing.

rrpjr on January 24, 2013 at 12:29 PM

If Ryan goes for it, great.

Although Ryan’s all tough conservative talk and liberal action, so I expect him to cave like usual.

sauldalinsky on January 24, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Paul Ryan is either an idiot or IN ON THE WHOLE JOKE.

The gop leadership holds no cards. They have killed the party and they have probably already caved (from when Ryan appeared here). And apparently the limited government Conservatives with the backing of the TEA PARTY (FreedomWorks, TP Express, etc.) have NO ONE that will challenge the gop leadership………..so they also have become as worthless as the gop.

America, Get on board the OBAMA EXPRESS….

…Destination: TYRANNY TOWN.

PappyD61 on January 24, 2013 at 1:04 PM

note to Paul Ryan.

You couldn’t even beat JOE BIDEN…….JOE BIDEN in a debate!!!

You couldn’t even help carry Wisconsin (a state that clearly supported a republican governor Scott Walker).

You campaigned with a man that rolled over after the first debate when he surged to a 7 point GALLUP poll lead.

Go back to the back bench Paul. The gop wants to hail you as a “young gun” but you’ve turned into nothing but a limp noodle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XBk98n77wU

If you haven’t eaten lately try to watch that video and not hurl.

PappyD61 on January 24, 2013 at 1:09 PM

This is a win-win for 0bama. He has Marxist ideals, but isn’t stupid. Probably deep down he knows that the spending is unsustainable, so let the GOP take the fall for making cuts.

Nevertheless, Let the sequester hit.

Lou Budvis on January 24, 2013 at 1:44 PM

The Congressional Budget Office said we could raise $114 billion over ten years — twice as much as raising the Medicare age — by limiting corporate tax deferrals.

JustTheFacts on January 24, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Hey, thanks for scoping out the equivalent of 1% of the deficit, an amount that is completely wiped out by the cost of, for example, PPACA.

The Schaef on January 24, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Ryan tried to tell him to stuff it during the way in a polite manner and that didn’t work. Biden was sent out there to act like a crazy person and wasn’t going to stop with a verbal putdown. The only other option was getting physical.

Illinidiva

So much for the “democrats recoil at the mere presence of Ryan” argument you’re so fond of, lol.

xblade on January 24, 2013 at 2:24 PM

You couldn’t even help carry Wisconsin (a state that clearly supported a republican governor Scott Walker).

PappyD61

Also a state that no republican candidate has carried in almost 30 years. No one with at least half a brain expected it to be any different in 2012 either.

xblade on January 24, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Ummm… Lefties really hate him the me way we hate Obama but he doesn’t turn off indies like Palin does. This is a huge plus as I’d like liberals to feel the same way about the next R President that I feel about Obama.

Illinidiva on January 24, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Meanwhile tomorrow we lose the right to unlock our own phones and not a word, nada, not a single peep from any GOP leader.

Yes, so it’s only a symbolic loss that will not affect most people much. But it’s one more example of the government unilaterally deciding what I can or cannot do with my own stuff.

http://www.phonedog.com/2013/01/24/new-dmca-rule-requiring-carrier-permission-for-legal-phone-unlocks-to-go-into-effect-on-jan-26/

JoseQuinones on January 24, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Ummm… Lefties really hate him the me way we hate Obama but he doesn’t turn off indies like Palin does. This is a huge plus as I’d like liberals to feel the same way about the next R President that I feel about Obama.

Illinidiva on January 24, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Barely coherent, unprovable and with a gratuitous Palin shot. Pathetic. In a larger sense, once again, why we keep losing.

If Ryan didn’t turn off “indies” he certainly didn’t turn them on. And what evidence that Palin turns them off? You have none. However, what we do have evidence of is Ryan’s total failure in the clutch, either to fight the Left or to excite the base.

rrpjr on January 24, 2013 at 2:52 PM

not only will the GOP cave on this, it is almost 100% certain that Paul Ryan himself will vote for the cave.

astonerii on January 24, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Ryan is nothing but a shill and will cave when Boehner tells him. You don’t have anything to lose because you gave it all away. Ryan voted for higher taxes and raising the debt ceiling. He might as well be a democrat.

Panther on January 25, 2013 at 8:29 AM