There are women in combat roles in Canada too, if I’m not mistaken.

How are American women any different?

I’m not a proponent of having women in these roles, but given how it seems to be effective in other militaries around the world, why should it not be happening in the US?

First – what male prisoner of war is not going to give up every last bit of intelligence information he knows to prevent his female squad mate from being gang raped every day in the open cell next to his? You can’t “train” away the natural male response to protect females – anyone who adheres to any kind of evolutinoary theory must admit that the evolutionary imperative to protect females will preclude any chance of convincing males to treat their female squad mates just like the males – just ain’t going to happen!

Second – if they would publicize the true readiness evaluations for U.S. Navy ships, after they forced them open to female sailors, they would reverse this insane trend. I was there, I saw it and as a Naval Officer I know for a fact that readiness took a nose dive. Before every single significant deployment (where we were expected to be deployed from our home port for 9 months, nearly all of it at sea), we had to address readiness issues because of the number of female sailors who suddenly became pregnant and could not be deployed!

Imagine what it will be like if a mixed infantry unit is called upon to respond to a long-term, front-line, IN THE FIELD, combat deployment?

Sacrifice the greatest fighting force on the planet to political correctness and social experimentation? It’s just plain stupid!

What is their long game?

I wouldn’t buy one – it would likely cost way too much, pull hard to the left, wouldn’t work as advertised, stop working at all every few minutes, and likely to blow up in your face.

dentarthurdent on January 24, 2013 at 10:47 PM

and with every failure you would hear BOOOOOSH whispering from the barrel end.

The point isn’t that women are “too fragile” for combat.

libfreeordie on January 24, 2013 at 11:23 PM

You’re right. That’s NOT the point.

The point is that most humans are too fragile for combat.

You’re wrong. That’s NOT the point.

The point is that physical standards for certain combat missions have been determined by leaders with experience in those roles. It’s wrong to lower those standards.

Please acknowledge that this is true.

libfreeordie on January 24, 2013 at 11:23 PM

…SO?…you must have been in combat!

And the gratuitous shot at the end. Well played, Rose. I’m sure you’ll make some man a happy widower one day.

chumpThreads on January 24, 2013 at 3:25 PM

That from an idiot who can never write anything without a gratuitous, disparaging ‘shot’ at Conservatives – no matter what the subject.

Chimp-boy, you’re an idiot.

And you’re a hypocrite. (But then, you’re a leftoid drone, so that – and being a liar – is a given)

chumpThreads on January 24, 2013

verbaluce on January 24, 2013

…mom’s barking!…she wants you two back in the basement!…feeding time!

I wouldn’t buy one – it would likely cost way too much, pull hard to the left, wouldn’t work as advertised, stop working at all every few minutes, and likely to blow up in your face.
dentarthurdent on January 24, 2013 at 10:47 PM

You left out that it comes with free contraceptives and is made from melted down platinum coins.

Mmmmaaaannn, I CAN’T wait until some gun company starts selling the Obamamaster. After all, he IS the best spokesman for guns in the history of the United States and it would be most appropriate.

lolz

Resist We Much on January 24, 2013 at 7:59 PM

I wouldn’t buy one – it would likely cost way too much, pull hard to the left, wouldn’t work as advertised, stop working at all every few minutes, and likely to blow up in your face.

With that said about women, I also have my doubts about this generation of male soldiers…you can’t compare Iraq or Afganistan to the rigors of WWII, Korea or VietNam…with a couple of rare exceptions, nothing that has happened in recent memoryo in either Iraq or Afganistan compares to the combat experience of those previous wars. We have had 2,000 killed in Iraq…we had that many killed on June 6, 1944…we had 57,000 killed in roughly 10 years of Vietnam…we had 57,000 killed in about 18 months in WWI.

Was there PTSS after WWI or WWII…of course there was, it was call shell shock in WWI and it got more a little more complicated in WWII…my uncle who won five bronze stars in WWII was a different man when he came home, not necessarily worse, just different. Most, including my uncle, never talked about it…maybe they should have, but in any case they came home and created a nation like no other the world has ever seen. Women in combat…be careful what you wish for…

Whats the over/under on how long before this is compared to the Desegregation of the Military in the 40′s & 50′s?

I’m guessing…by Monday the 28th, 10am.

BlaxPac on January 24, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Already been brought up – see page 1 around 2:30 – chumpy.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 24, 2013 at 5:45 PM

The sad thing is, with the absence of anything in the culture showing young women what real femininity is like, a lot of them are buying it. You see them in the gym, all intense and manic, burning themselves out because they think they’re supposed to be superwoman.

I cost money to invest in trainees. The cost of training programs on a per graduate basis increase when attrition rates rise. Why should we pay more per student just to accommodate a demographic which will statistically be more expensive to train?

blink on January 24, 2013 at 7:05 PM

I understand that – but the decision has already been made. I’m just expressing my hope they at least keep the physical requirements appropriate for the positions. Then let’s see what happens when they can’t survive the training and (hopefully) we have the overwhelming proof to have to admit that this bit of social engineering is a dismal failure.

I’m not sure why anyone thinks he would have killed fewer people using the pistols instead of the Bushmaster.

Mmmmaaaannn, I CAN’T wait until some gun company starts selling the Obamamaster. After all, he IS the best spokesman for guns in the history of the United States and it would be most appropriate.

lolz

Women have caught up to men on lung cancer risk-Yahoo News

This hunt for “equality” is sure interesting. Death wish?

:Sigh:

Whats the over/under on how long before this is compared to the Desegregation of the Military in the 40′s & 50′s?

I’m guessing…by Monday the 28th, 10am.

BlaxPac on January 24, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Probably a good guess. The twisted irony being that it was Democrat Woodrow Wilson that segregated it in the first place.

As for the real issue of women in ground combat -
http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/modernwarriorload/ModernWarriorsCombatLoadReport.pdf