Quotes of the day
posted at 10:31 pm on January 23, 2013 by Allahpundit
White House press secretary Jay Carney on Wednesday defended Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s assertion that the administration’s initial claims the Benghazi attack was the result of a violent protest — rather than terrorism — made no “difference” in the big picture of the tragedy.
Carney, speaking to reporters at the White House daily briefing, said Clinton was referring to “an obvious political obsession over a series of talking points that again bears no relevance on the central issues” around the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya.
More often, a secretary of state sees the cables that his or her staff pulls out because they are important and should be seen. Figuring out what the incumbent secretary wants to see, will wish to see, and will be angry for not having seen is very difficult when there’s a new secretary — but what is Hillary Clinton’s excuse on September 11, 2012, after almost four years in office? There had been three and half years to set up a system, to let the career officers of the Secretariat and the Operations Center know what she wants, and to have her personal staff figure it out too.
That is to say, if she did not see the Benghazi cables in a timely fashion, if she did not see Chris Stephens’s cables describing the deterioration of security, and if she did not see his requests for more security, this was a huge management failure on her part. It is a poor excuse to say, “Gee, the Department gets lots of cables” — and perhaps even worse then to hide behind an Accountability Review Board that pins responsibility on assistant secretaries and no higher.
While Clinton gave, as she has before, lip service to the idea that she took responsibility for the tragedy, throughout her testimony she demonstrated that she regarded the whole idea of accountability as a detail to be shrugged off or pigeonholed along with internal government reports about the matter. Her attitude, when not listening to paeans to her service and frequent trips abroad, seemed to betray her belief that not only were questions about Benghazi unimportant but that she knew the mainstream press would continue to give her a pass for her failures.
The problem here is not just what she considers an irrelevant question from Johnson or a mere “difference of opinion”–as she characterized Senator John McCain’s scathing attack on her record on the issue–but a belief that four dead Americans in Benghazi was really not such an earth-shaking event. Her consistent talking point seemed to be that the committee shouldn’t bother itself trying to find out what happened and why and who was responsible for the mistakes that led to the deaths, but merely to “move on”—to steal a phrase made popular during her husband’s presidency. That’s why she still won’t say who changed the public talking points about Benghazi that led to Rice’s lies and why they were altered.
Rohrabacher asked the secretary whether she informed the president first that the attack was the result of protests about an anti-Islamic video, or whether it was a coordinated terrorist attack.
“We all remember what the emphasis was,” he said. “Over and over it was repeated that we had enraged the Islamic terrorists [...] which by the way, what does that do? [...] That means we’re at fault…”
Rohrabacher continued, saying, “The only people I know who are in jail right now is the filmmaker. Isn’t that disconcerting?”
“I’m not sure she had rehearsed for that type of question,” Johnson told BuzzFeed Wednesday afternoon, after the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing. “I think she just decided before she was going to describe emotionally the four dead Americans, the heroes, and use that as her trump card to get out of the questions. It was a good way of getting out of really having to respond to me.”
He said it was clear, at other points during the hearing, that Clinton was working off a set of talking points, but that his questions “got under her skin” because “they’re just so common sense.”
“I just don’t think she had an answer to that,” he said. “Maybe it embarrassed her. Maybe she hadn’t thought of it that way.”
It was riveting television, but her statement was utter nonsense. First, invoking the slain American diplomats to defend herself from a tough question was distasteful in the extreme. It is because their lives were so valued and their death so jolting that the hearing was even happening. Second, the false choice between a protest and an evening stroll gone awry was patently ridiculous. The relevant questions included whether the attack was a spontaneous protest (one form of threat), a pre-planned terrorist attack (another level of threat entirely), or an opportunistic combination of the two. Because the administration misled the American people, it helped perpetuate a false sense of security about our terrorist enemies — that they were virtually defeated. Finally, “what difference at this point does it make?” Well, it makes all the difference in the world when trying to determine terrorists’ intentions and capabilities in North Africa.
Watching the exchange, I was reminded a bit of the Biden/Ryan debate, when smirks and laughs successfully substituted for argument. Of course, no one is laughing or smirking here, but once again attitude trumps substance. Nonsense delivered with anger and conviction is still nonsense.
Yet today’s testimony in some sense does not matter, given that Ms. Clinton is probably going to run in 2016 for president, and has enjoyed a protective media veneer over her long career — shed only once in 2008 when opposing Barack Obama.
Although she has shown moments of teary emotion (cf. the 2008 campaign), had problems with recollections about past events (cf. under fire in Bosnia), and offered scenarios that seemed improbable (cf. subpoenaed documents mysteriously appearing belatedly in a White House anteroom), her testimony today will be seen, as the Washington Post described it, as “an uncharacteristic display of emotion for Clinton, who is usually collected and reserved in public.” Despite Hillarycare, Whitewater, Travelgate, Filegate, the cattle-futures mess, the circumstances surrounding the 2000 Clinton pardons, “suspension of disbelief,” etc., Ms. Clinton, for not fully explained reasons, remains mostly beyond audit and censure, a fact she has come to appreciate.
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— kirsten powers (@kirstenpowers10) January 23, 2013
Via Mediaite.
“Madame Secretary, you let the consulate become a death trap. That’s national security malpractice,” said Duncan.
“You’ve said you take responsibility, what does responsibility mean, Madame Secretary? You’re still in your job, and there are four people at the Department of State that have culpability in this that are still in their jobs. I heard the answer about firing or removing personnel, I get that, but this was gross negligence. At what point in time can our government fire someone whose gross negligence left four Americans dead in Benghazi?”
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Yes I did. Very nice lady, a local gal. Last I heard she was doing Psychological counseling—-as a professional.
arnold ziffel on January 24, 2013 at 12:43 AM
Not quite, douchebear. YOU azzclowns are the ones who cared so little about the deaths in Benghazi that you wanted it dropped and forgotten. Almost as though someone might say, “What difference does it make?” YOUR pResident is the one who abandoned those people to death in the face of our enemy…and was quite prepared to let the other 37 people at the consulate die along with them …AND THEN YOUR BOY WENT TO BED…to be well-rested for his trip to Vegas. That must make you so proud.
As far as Sandy Hook goes…YOUR pResident didn’t even wait an hour before he started trying to abrogate the Second Amendment. Of course, he’s failing at that – but it’s the thought that counts, isn’t it.He – and you – would roll naked in the blood of those children if you – and he – thought that it might help you destroy your political enemies and America. You’d dance in the streets waving their bodies over your head if you thought it might help reduce Freedom in America, and advance your socialist agenda.
But you’re failing at that – just like your failure of a lame-duck pResident.
FOAD, moron.
Solaratov on January 24, 2013 at 12:44 AM
lolz..Good point..We are learning..:)
PS..I hope..:)
Dire Straits on January 24, 2013 at 12:44 AM
TO SCRUMPY:
If you are lurking, I pray you are feeling a bit better today. I will continue to pray for relief for you, kind Scrumpy. :)
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 12:45 AM
Listened only. I did not want her overt beauty and charisma affect my judgement. I’m sure you all felt the same.
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 12:45 AM
lol. Hope you are doing fine–and you seem to be, in the basement. Mom is glad to have you there.
arnold ziffel on January 24, 2013 at 12:46 AM
Go Niners! Big Superbowl party planned, lots of cute young single actresses. Y’know, I’ve totally ignored the Manti story for some reason.
Sorry for the late response, was over at Ace’s ONT thread, it’s pretty good tonight, they’ve got this very strange video of a spider being splashed with cleanser…
John the Libertarian on January 24, 2013 at 12:46 AM
Hillary could use a character witness like Vince Foster right about now.
Ooops.
viking01 on January 24, 2013 at 12:47 AM
HA. Perfect, Jackalope! And what obedient little soldiers they have been, hmm?
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 12:47 AM
/Where are you again?
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 12:47 AM
Sweet PF, Dire!
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 12:50 AM
Tune
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 12:50 AM
TX Panhandle.
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 12:52 AM
All in all, it was a pretty good day. But – every once in a while – I’d read or hear something about RvW, and it was like a cloud passing over the Sun.
Solaratov on January 24, 2013 at 12:53 AM
Nice.
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 12:54 AM
Nice. Steely Dan takes me back, not just to a period of my life, but to very specific moments in my life.
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 12:54 AM
That sounds like a plan my friend..A good plan indeed..:)
PS..AoS is a great blog..I need to visit more often..:)
Dire Straits on January 24, 2013 at 12:58 AM
Mark Levin Interviews Rand Paul On Benghazi Hearing
Jan 23 2013
***********
http://dailyrushbo.com/
canopfor on January 24, 2013 at 12:59 AM
One of my pet peeves–although small compared to what went on with her testimony–is the way Hillary and the senators were hugging. I didn’t see it; I just read about it.
This was a serious occasion. Or supposed to be.
In business settings I really think a handshake is the way to go. (today I wouldn’t have even shaken her hand).
INC on January 24, 2013 at 12:59 AM
She’s ecstatic, and trying really hard to not be overbearing. My daughter loves her, but I am the boss. The ground rules were defined and happily agreed upon, which is the best one can hope for in this situation. I hope I can do the same for my little girl if the time comes.
Jackalope on January 24, 2013 at 1:00 AM
Been playing this band today.
Three Dog Night – Mama Told Me Not to Come
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:00 AM
It’s a rerun, but I like it. Makes me think of the Glade.
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:01 AM
Agreed. Probably a lot of nudge-nudge, wink-wink going on also.
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:02 AM
good one
Jackalope on January 24, 2013 at 1:04 AM
*****************Stand Down Order? ***********************
Lt. Col. And Special Ops Planner Calls Rush: “White House Can’t Deny Obama Knew About Benghazi Attack Immediately”
This entry was posted on
October 26, 2012 at 3:21 pm
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Video:(12:17)
http://dailyrushbo.com/lt-col-and-special-ops-planner-calls-rush-white-house-cant-deny-obama-knew-about-benghazi-attack-immediately/
canopfor on January 24, 2013 at 1:05 AM
Showing my age, again. Styx was my absolute favorite band in high school & early college.
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:05 AM
Ummm.. Vinyl…
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:06 AM
Any GOP senator with any respect for himself and the nation would not have been any kinder than a prosecuting attorney to a hostile witness. These effin ckskrs act like this is just a game and not serious business. I am just livid. Day after day we get cold water thrown on us.
arnold ziffel on January 24, 2013 at 1:06 AM
For you.
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:08 AM
Shambala
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:08 AM
She could have murdered them herself and the libs and media would still construct some kind of defense for her.
Country is broken beyond repair.
WisCon on January 24, 2013 at 1:09 AM
You no like the vinyl? Vinyl & 8-tracks, baby! Haha
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:10 AM
I agree. I pray for Scrumpy doodles. She’s the best.
SparkPlug on January 24, 2013 at 1:10 AM
Babe I’m leaving..I must be on my way..:)
PS..Their best..imho..:)
Dire Straits on January 24, 2013 at 1:11 AM
Axefellow, Axefellow
when ya comin’ back
twepy will be here
and she needs a thwack
SparkPlug on January 24, 2013 at 1:11 AM
No, I love vinyl. It’s human and very cool. My kids have no idea.
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:12 AM
Excellent song. Isn’t it funny that I can remember every single word to songs I haven’t heard in eons, but don’t ask me where my sunglasses are. :)
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:12 AM
Classic..:)
Dire Straits on January 24, 2013 at 1:12 AM
Otay Peeps,I’m off,everyone have a great night,
nite peeps———————:)
canopfor on January 24, 2013 at 1:13 AM
If we are going to go vinyl..Let’s make it burn..:)
Dire Straits on January 24, 2013 at 1:15 AM
Your bud B9 comes around the in the AM.
SparkPlug on January 24, 2013 at 1:15 AM
Good tune.
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:15 AM
Great one, Dire. Jeez, don’t think I could pick a favorite. Pretty much anything off of their first 4 albums.
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:16 AM
I agree.
INC on January 24, 2013 at 1:16 AM
An unimpressed Janet Reno stated:
“Hell, I killed 20 times that many in an afternoon.”
/S
viking01 on January 24, 2013 at 1:17 AM
Sweet.
I was born in shamrock have family in wheeler, pampa, half of amarillo is related etc. etc etc.
Fred
jrsrigmvr on January 24, 2013 at 1:18 AM
Goodnight, canopfor! Thanks for all you do. :)
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:19 AM
Try this.
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:19 AM
.
Rim shot.
listens2glenn on January 24, 2013 at 1:21 AM
Awesome. “Let’s make it burn.” Good one.
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:21 AM
I know! We’re like ships that pass in the night lately. We still stay in contact with each other, but we rarely meet up here.
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:23 AM
Tune
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:23 AM
ROFL
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:24 AM
Y’all take care. I’ve banked the fire and I’m off to bed.
See you tomorrow.
Solaratov on January 24, 2013 at 1:24 AM
Goodnight!
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:26 AM
That is so cool to know, Fred! Yes, all are in my “area.”
Were you born and/or raised here?
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:26 AM
Goodnight, Solaratov. Pleasant dreams & a great tomorrow!
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:29 AM
Rerun but awesome.
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:30 AM
Uhm, I’m the Fire Marshall and I will give you a big fine if you burn down the Glade.
Plus I might just take it to the next level and taser you just for fun in case you decide to disobey me. Jackie gave me a badge and everything. I went and got a bull horn to yell at people from my bicycle.
I must say that is lots of fun.
SparkPlug on January 24, 2013 at 1:31 AM
LoLz..That reminded me of a bad Barry Manilow song..I will spare you..:)
PS..Do you remember this band from back in the day?..:)
Dire Straits on January 24, 2013 at 1:31 AM
born in shamrock
moved away when i was a baby and have lived my entire life in the Rockies.
NM, UT, CO, but mostly WY
jrsrigmvr on January 24, 2013 at 1:34 AM
Very sweet.
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:35 AM
Sorry Ken! My 1:35 post was supposed to be to you (Heart: Stairway)
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:37 AM
Plant shedding a tear was pretty cool.
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:38 AM
Yikes.
Glad to get a few laughs and a few punch lines in though voicefive (or was it googleapps?) has crashed Firefox a half dozen times already.
I’d best go get my ugly sleep.
G’nite all.
viking01 on January 24, 2013 at 1:39 AM
Fred is a sweet guy.
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:39 AM
Um, are bicycles allowed in the Glade? I thought we were restricted to unicorns, walking, centaurs, and your hot air balloon?
I’d hate to have to report you to the Gladiator of Transportation.
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:40 AM
That linked to some Kesha person.
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:41 AM
Good Night!
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:41 AM
LoLz..I hear you..:)
Dire Straits on January 24, 2013 at 1:42 AM
Oh, wow. I had completely forgotten about them. Haha, yes, good times!
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:43 AM
Goodnight, viking!!
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:45 AM
4Grace, what do you think?
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:47 AM
Sorry but you need to skip the ad..:)
Dire Straits on January 24, 2013 at 1:47 AM
Yes, yes he is. HA has a lot of sweet guys, although many probably wouldn’t admit to it. ;)
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:47 AM
Doh!!
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:48 AM
I’m ok with it.
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:50 AM
Remember this??..He had one great LP and then faded..:)
Dire Straits on January 24, 2013 at 1:50 AM
..:)
Dire Straits on January 24, 2013 at 1:51 AM
Don’t tell the guys…ok?
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:52 AM
ROTFLMAO
Fred
jrsrigmvr on January 24, 2013 at 1:53 AM
I like it! New to me, so I love to discover new stuff. I tend to get stuck in music ruts. Sticking with what I know. Need to explore more!
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:54 AM
Many thought he was the nest Led Zep. Definitely had the traits.
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:55 AM
I think it’s part of this sort of blame-game society in the sense that it’s always got to be someone’s fault instead of the fact that sometimes accidents happen.
greataunty on January 24, 2013 at 1:56 AM
Definitely! He did just disappear, didn’t he?
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:57 AM
Comfort zone..
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 1:57 AM
That’s a good thing. :)
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 1:58 AM
Zep Flavored…
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 2:00 AM
http://youtu.be/X3Z8zmyqb60
do you like this. he is awesome
Fred
jrsrigmvr on January 24, 2013 at 2:01 AM
I understand your premise; we DO live in a blame game society. However, from what little I’ve learned about cables sent & from interviews given, I simply cannot classify Benghazi as an accident. It was negligence (at best) and malicious incompetence at worst.
Just my opinion.
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 2:03 AM
Yes..But I picked up on that youtube sidebar..Always liked this guy..He rocks..imho..:)
PS..That LP cover is awesome..:)
Dire Straits on January 24, 2013 at 2:04 AM
Yes, I am familiar with Bonamassa and I agree that he is very talented!
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 2:05 AM
Great Jam.
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 2:07 AM
Yes, I’m a Hagar fan, particularly his older stuff. :)
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 2:08 AM
I like this Duncan Fellow
workingclass artist on January 24, 2013 at 2:11 AM
Check out my 2:07
KCB on January 24, 2013 at 2:12 AM
OK, still stuck on these guys for a moment.
Never Been to Spain
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 2:12 AM
Very cool, Ken. And I love that album cover!
4Grace on January 24, 2013 at 2:15 AM
Excellent..But don’t you sometime feel like a stranger?..:)
Dire Straits on January 24, 2013 at 2:18 AM
ROTF. Are you the Gladiator of Transportation? Opps I could be in hot water. Looks like I’ll have to make my bicycle look like a Unicorn somehow.
Might need to invent some stuff to make that happen.
SparkPlug on January 24, 2013 at 2:19 AM
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