Panetta lifts Pentagon ban on women serving in direct combat
posted at 5:11 pm on January 23, 2013 by Allahpundit
Dan Foster has the right idea. No more excuses, ladies. It’s time.
Just this morning I was thinking that abortion and gay marriage had gotten a bit stale as fodder for really nasty, bitter culture-war bloodsport. Luckily, Obama and Leon Panetta are here to keep things interesting.
The groundbreaking move recommended by the Joint Chiefs of Staff overturns a 1994 rule prohibiting women from being assigned to smaller ground combat units. Panetta’s decision gives the military services until January 2016 to seek special exceptions if they believe any positions must remain closed to women…
Panetta’s move expands the Pentagon’s action nearly a year ago to open about 14,500 combat positions to women, nearly all of them in the Army. This decision could open more than 230,000 jobs, many in Army and Marine infantry units, to women.
In recent years the necessities of war propelled women into jobs as medics, military police and intelligence officers that were sometimes attached — but not formally assigned — to units on the front lines.
The AP says Panetta’s order will involve “allowing women to seek the combat positions,” which isn’t remotely the same as ordering women who are already in the service to the front lines. Sounds like the opportunity will be there for women soldiers if and when they want it — although as women serving in the infantry becomes more common, it’s bound to create peer pressure on women troops who don’t necessarily want to go to the front but feel obliged to. Oh well. CNN has more on how this differs from the end of “don’t ask, don’t tell.” In short, there’s no “special exemption” available to a unit that concludes it can’t/won’t integrate gay troops:
The Army and Marine Corps, especially, will be examining physical standards and gender-neutral accommodations within combat units. Every 90 days, the service chiefs will have to report back on their progress…
[The policy] is a marked difference from the way the military ended the exclusion of gays serving openly, or “don’t ask don’t tell.” In that case, there were no stipulations attached to openly gay service members. There was no staggered approach that integrated openly gay troops into units. It was instead done all at once, across the board.
A senior Defense official explained the Pentagon’s reasoning behind the different approach: “You’re talking about personal choice of behavior vs. physical capability. And they were already in the units. If you take a unit that’s never had women before, that’s quite a culture change.”
Women already serve in combat support roles and have been killed in action in Iraq and Afghanistan but this is the first time they’ll be placed intentionally in the line of enemy fire. It was a fait accompli, though. Ever since DADT was repealed, activists had eyed this as the next frontier in equality inside the military. The Pentagon bowed to pressure early last year by allowing women troops to serve in non-combat roles as part of battalions, which put them closer to the front lines. More than one poll has showed majority support for letting women serve in combat, and other allied militaries, like Australia and the IDF, already make some combat roles available to women. The question wasn’t whether this might happen, it’s how broad the new policy would end up being. Volunteers only or mandatory service for all women who are fit to serve on the front lines? Special Ops duties too or are the physical requirements too onerous? Israel has already lowered its standards for female combat troops, although allegedly that has less to do with physical challenges than with women wanting to serve in more tech-heavy roles.
Not all vets support the idea, of course. Here’s a piece written last year by a former infantry officer making the case against women infantry on grounds that close combat will simply prove too brutal for many of them; here’s another by a female officer who warns that long duty in the field is likely to prove too physically grueling. The X factor at the moment is what Chuck Hagel thinks, but I doubt we’ll ever really know: Even if he disagrees with the policy change, there’s no earthly way he didn’t already sign onto it behind closed doors with Obama as a concession to Democrats, who are giddy about the change and lukewarm about his nomination. He’ll rubber-stamp it whether he wants to or not.
Exit question for opponents of the Iraq and/or Afghanistan wars: How excited are you to have a giant new pool of soldiers available to make future wars that much more feasible?
Update: Panetta gets the coveted thumbs up from Kelly Ayotte, whose brand as a hawkish Republican woman senator will provide O with some political cover.
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I, for one, welcome our new Chinese overlords.
myiq2xu on May 7, 2013 at 1:26 PM
I for one welcome our new
ChineseMexican overlords.Viva LaBomb-bah!!
PappyD61 on May 7, 2013 at 1:33 PM
Guess Barry has kissed off borrowing any more money from the Chinese.
GarandFan on May 7, 2013 at 1:36 PM
ChiCom hackers? NO surprise here…
Khun Joe on May 7, 2013 at 1:38 PM
I believe the Fed actually holds more US debt than China does now.
Doomberg on May 7, 2013 at 1:44 PM
How do they know the attackers are Chinese? An hour after they block one attack, they want to block another?
The Rogue Tomato on May 7, 2013 at 1:45 PM
Why does the Pentagon have critical computer systems hooked up to the internet in the first place? Closing that door should be fairly simple: Unplug internet access. For critical computer access from off site, manually-accessed dial up (I know, slow) on a secure phone line could be used.
The Chinese can’t hack it if it ain’t hooked up.
Same thing goes for our power infrastructure, NO controls whatsoever should be accessible via internet. Readouts, status? Sure. But no controls.
iurockhead on May 7, 2013 at 1:47 PM
Brought to you by technology stolen from Intel, Apple, Dell, Microsoft, et al, and students educated in the very best universities the United States has to offer.
thatsafactjack on May 7, 2013 at 1:47 PM
Lotsa luck with that. Our policy makers are as insightful as a box of rocks.
Happy Nomad on May 7, 2013 at 1:48 PM
Watch me walk around yellow noodle town
–one of Charles’s sock puppets.
tom daschle concerned on May 7, 2013 at 1:50 PM
The US company was warned and did Nothing/Nada, until it was too late.
Bill Clinton sold the secrets to the Chines. Obama gives them away.
Many aid him in the process, in the US.
Schadenfreude on May 7, 2013 at 1:50 PM
Chinese
Schadenfreude on May 7, 2013 at 1:51 PM
Time to issue a strongly worded statement–And we really, really mean it this time.
mwbri on May 7, 2013 at 1:51 PM
It’s very interesting about socialist and communist countries: they can’t develop ideas and new technologies of their own (because communism doesn’t offer proper incentives to develop them). So instead they steal from others.
It’s like when Canada took pharmaceuticals that were developed in the U.S. at enormous cost and energy and then copied them and sold them at great discounts saying “See! We offer medicine almost for free. That means we’re more caring than our greedy Southern neighbor.”
The Soviet Union put astonishing effort and resources into stealing technology from the U.S. They knew their system couldn’t develop anything on its own, so they just took from us instead. Liberals all over the world were in awe: “Look, the Soviet Union can compete with the U.S. in goods and services sort of. And they don’t have any of that evil capitalism.”
What liberals don’t quite get is that when the U.S. completes its transformation into socialism, it won’t be producing or creating anything new anymore and therefore there won’t be anything worth going to the trouble to get. To adapt Thatcher: “Socialism and progress (in medicine, labor-saving devices, science, etc.) stops working when there’s nothing worthwhile to steal anymore.”
Burke on May 7, 2013 at 1:52 PM
The M.O. of Communist nations since WW2 ended: wait for the West to invent something your oppressed peasants are too uneducated, too poor, and/or too scared to try and make under your regime. Then steal it and make cheap knock-offs.
Though our laziness makes theft easy, it must gall them that they know they can never match us. Their back-asswards, socially unstable nation with a short-fused population bomb simply will not make parity possible.
MelonCollie on May 7, 2013 at 1:54 PM
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Oh, that’s a GREAT relief. We’ll all sleep better tonight, knowing that. : )
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Slightly O T:
Are there any Chinese still alive, who would remember aiding Doolittle’s Tokyo raiders elude the Japanese? I don’t know what that has to do with Chinese cyber espionage, but as I was reading it the thought came to mind and I couldn’t shake it.
listens2glenn on May 7, 2013 at 1:55 PM
In 50 years there will be one world, called Russia, capital in DC, run by the Chinese.
Schadenfreude on May 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM
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There’s some “stupid” book out there, that predicts a ‘one world government’ that will last approx three and one half years (maybe longer).
I don’t know why people pay attention to such far-out books.
listens2glenn on May 7, 2013 at 2:07 PM
One reason may be the number of self-defined “intellectuals” who dream of being the rulers in such a “Perfect State”. They’re probably the ones buying these books.
The trouble is, of course, that any such state would suffer the same fate as the Islamists’ dreamed-of “New Caliphate”. That is, it wouldn’t even last three and a half years, because inside of six months, every one of its leaders would be looking at the others and thinking,
cheers
eon
eon on May 7, 2013 at 2:23 PM
Last time I checked, most of the innovation was coming from those same ‘liberals’ that you brand as socialists. Believe it or now, innovation and scientific progress in this country has never been stronger. Your armchair observations are really bizarre.
Anyway, you don’t seem to understand the form of socialism- state ownership and control of corporations- that Hatcher was addressing.
bayam on May 7, 2013 at 2:35 PM
I don’t think communism of itself has an inherent disincentive for innovation because there could be non-material rewards for innovation, such as public praise, satisfaction in solving problems and so on.
China wasn’t hugely innovative even before it flirted with communism and today, despite the insistence of some HotAir commentators, China is not even remotely a communist society, other than in official rhetoric and propaganda.
My explanation for why the Chinese are (relatively speaking) bad at innovation because of their underlying culture that has traditionally preferred deference to elders and “superiors”, conformity and “keeping face”. These culture traits do not encourage innovation nor nurture prospective innovators; Chinese students and workers alike are more inclined to “receive” and “follow” than to “question” and “lead”. It just so happens that those culture traits are easily co-opted by ideologies such as communism.
Contemporary western students and workers seem to be the opposite — questioning even what is long established (e.g. the basis for marriage) and pursuing individualism even to self-destruction. These traits provide an environment (at least for a few decades until the whole society collapses from self-contradiction) in which innovation flourishes and knowledge expands.
YiZhangZhe on May 7, 2013 at 2:44 PM
There is nothing remotely liberal about the left any longer.
Perhaps you’re right, for once, Bayam. Perhaps I underestimated those technological giants.
Maybe they weren’t so greedy that they rushed to do business in a nation notorious for corporate espionage, deliberately ignoring repeated warnings from BILL CLINTON and others.
Maybe their operations weren’t so poorly designed and managed that it made stealing the secrets of their technology laughably easy.
Maybe, as you seem to suggest, these tech innovators of the left, each a genius in his field, intentionally became the victims of Chinese corporate espionage, thus enabling the Chinese to try to use that technology to hack out military information and control systems.
You know, with you to speak for them, the left doesn’t need any enemies.
thatsafactjack on May 7, 2013 at 2:50 PM
Your reply to listens2glenn is very funny if you were making a sophisticated, ironic joke, and much, much funnier if you were being serious.
:)
YiZhangZhe on May 7, 2013 at 2:51 PM
There must be. The remaining members of the Doolittle raid just held their 71st, and final reunion.
bigmacdaddy on May 7, 2013 at 2:57 PM
Pentagon: Let’s get real here — a lot of this cyber espionage is coming from the Chinese military
Remind me again … why is this so hard to acknowledge?
Jaibones on May 7, 2013 at 3:09 PM
Astounding, I could trace hits on my computer coming from China back in 2007. What ITH is going on at the pentagon?
jake49 on May 7, 2013 at 3:17 PM
Read Tom Clancy’s relatively new book Threat Vector if you want to learn how Chinese cyber espionage is done.
Tom Clancy’s books are considered fiction, but shortly after I finished reading this action-packed book, I started seeing what could have been excerpts taken directly from this book, appearing in actual news stories.
wren on May 7, 2013 at 3:37 PM
Why havent we been treating this as an act of war and reposnding appropriately?
paulsur on May 7, 2013 at 3:54 PM
Innovations like “green energy” and electric cars?
Doomberg on May 7, 2013 at 4:09 PM
Appropriately, you can answer your own question by referring to the ancient Chinese military text, known as “The Art of War”, by SunTzu.
http://www.sonshi.com/suntintro.html
YiZhangZhe on May 7, 2013 at 4:13 PM
This is difficult for the establishment to acknowledge, because China supplies the cheap circus part of the bread and circuses that are required to keep the general public quiet about it’s ever shrinking piece of the economic pie. Economically what happens if we restrict trade with China?
DFCtomm on May 7, 2013 at 5:24 PM
There are many things we can do without restricting trade. How about stopping student visas for engineering and computer science for Red Chinese nationals?
slickwillie2001 on May 7, 2013 at 6:14 PM
You claim that a culture in which “innovation a flourishes and knowledge expands” is doomed to collapse.
That very innovation and expanding knowledge is what makes a society or culture flourish, and it increases its survival chances exponentially over cultures and societies who lack these qualities. These qualities are necessary for adaptability. That which does not adapt to changing conditions ceases to exist.
thatsafactjack on May 7, 2013 at 7:21 PM
So you wish to continue to give favored nation trade status to a hostile nation? I admit that to change the dynamic would create a great deal of pain, but in the end it’s the right thing to do.
DFCtomm on May 8, 2013 at 8:37 AM