Yep: British PM Cameron will propose a referendum on an EU exit route

posted at 8:31 pm on January 22, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

British Prime Minister David Cameron has been angling after certain reforms for the UK from within the European Union’s collectivist rule system that would allow the Brits to gain back some regulatory sovereignty in certain policy arenas, including employment, crime, and justice — and he’s been semi-threatening to hold a nationwide referendum on the country’s membership in the EU if he doesn’t get them.

The issue of the UK’s involvement in Europe has been gaining some serious political steam, with a growing faction supporting a separation, and Brits have been waiting for months on the PM’s much-teased “big Europe speech” in which the government has been promising he’ll explain his proposals. The speech is finally slated to happen on Wednesday after a postponement from last Friday, the WSJ reports:

Mr. Cameron plans to say that, if elected in 2015, a Conservative government would renegotiate the U.K.’s relationship with the EU, and then hold a referendum on the new settlement in the first half of its five-year parliamentary term. …

While many people had focused on the risk of Greece leaving the euro zone, the promise of a referendum by Mr. Cameron would raise the prospect of an exit by a far-more essential member—one of the bloc’s biggest economies and its most important financial center. …

Mr. Cameron plans to say that British people feel the EU is heading in a direction the country never signed up for, suffering interference from what are seen in some quarters as unnecessary EU rules and regulations. …

Anti-Europe sentiment in the U.K. is at some of its highest levels since the early 1980s. And, frustrations with the EU are more pronounced among Conservatives, with opinion polls having shown support shifting away from the Tories to the U.K. Independence Party, whose main goal is Britain’s withdrawal from the EU.

One of the much-discussed tactical problems with the threat of a so-called “Brexit” was that Cameron himself doesn’t actually support the idea. He’s affirmed that he thinks EU membership is in Britain’s best interests, i.e., it looked like he was making an impotent threat; but taking the matter out of his own hands and putting it to a national vote is a horse of a different color. I doubt that many globalist-loving, quasi-to-full socialist EU members would be willing to work out special independence exemptions for one of the bloc’s more robust economies, but I’d imagine the panic of a referendum will likely put them into a much more negotiable mood.

The Obama administration has already made it clear that they would prefer that the UK remain in the European Union and stop messing around with an option that would certainly cause an at least short-term readjustment period of financial downturn — and some more rightward-leaning British pols didn’t take well to that at all.

Nearby France isn’t particularly pleased about the matter, either:

France has warned David Cameron against seeking an EU “à la carte”, amid clear annoyance in Paris over the British prime minister’s stance on Europe.

“France wants the UK to stay in the EU. It gains much from UK membership in many areas, including defence and energy. But what is clear is that nobody in Europe can accept that a state can pick and choose [which rules it accepts],” said a senior official in President François Hollande’s administration. …

“It is not just annoying to France, it is annoying to everybody, and that goes for those who would be the natural allies of Britain. If Britain thinks it can blackmail us, it will have to think again. Europe is at too critical a moment that anyone would want to allow Britain to complicate the situation even more.”

…Said the self-declared socialists. Womp.


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F L E E !

KOOLAID2 on January 22, 2013 at 8:34 PM

The Obama administration has already made it clear that they would prefer that the UK remain in the European Union and stop messing around with an option that would certainly cause an at least short-term readjustment period of financial downturn — and some more rightward-leaning British pols didn’t take well to that at all

…F L E E !

KOOLAID2 on January 22, 2013 at 8:36 PM

France has warned David Cameron against seeking an EU “à la carte”, amid clear annoyance in Paris over the British prime minister’s stance on Europe

…F L E E !

KOOLAID2 on January 22, 2013 at 8:36 PM

F them all! ….F L E E !

KOOLAID2 on January 22, 2013 at 8:37 PM

I do believe this us an exercise in federalism. Odd that it comes from the UK.

nobar on January 22, 2013 at 8:38 PM

JugEars will have us join the EU as soon as he can!

KOOLAID2 on January 22, 2013 at 8:38 PM

S T A Y

RickB on January 22, 2013 at 8:38 PM

*is (gotta stop typing on the iPhone).

nobar on January 22, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Mr. Cameron plans to say that, if elected in 2015, a Conservative government would renegotiate the U.K.’s relationship with the EU, and then hold a referendum on the new settlement in the first half of its five-year parliamentary term. …

Yeah and pigs may fly .

EnglishRogue on January 22, 2013 at 8:39 PM

I do believe this us an exercise in federalism. Odd that it comes from the UK.

nobar on January 22, 2013 at 8:38 PM

UKIP has good leader.

the_nile on January 22, 2013 at 8:39 PM

I would be happy to see the UK leave the EU, but I’m not going to hold my breath. First of all, the Tories would have to win the 2015 election — if Labour wins, there won’t be a renegotiation. Second, there would be a couple of years of renegotiation first. (Presumably the EU will offer the UK something that can be made to sound impressive even if it isn’t really meaningful.)

And, finally, the “leave the EU” vote would have to pass, even with Labour, the Liberal Democrats, much of the business community, part of the Conservative Party, the BBC, academia, and several major newspapers advocating strongly for staying in the EU.

Well, it will be interesting to watch, anyway.

J.S.K. on January 22, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Well if it annoys France it can’t be all bad.

rbj on January 22, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Whoops…wrong thread post above.

aquaviva on January 22, 2013 at 8:42 PM

He’s just kicked the issue into the misty future. It might allow him some cover on the right flank in the next election but that is about it. Scotland will remain in the Union and the UK will remain in the EU.

lexhamfox on January 22, 2013 at 8:47 PM

aka the Run Like Hell Initiative.

If only the USA had elected someone competent to dump the UN.

viking01 on January 22, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Margaret Thatcher paid the price of her job in late 1990 when she let too much of her anti-Brussels bias show….

Cameron may pay a similar price.

The die is cast, the E.U. is not going away.

PappyD61 on January 22, 2013 at 8:56 PM

It is not just annoying to France, it is annoying to everybody, and that goes for those who would be the natural allies of Britain. If Britain thinks it can blackmail us, it will have to think again. Europe is at too critical a moment that anyone would want to allow Britain to complicate the situation even more.”

And what is France going to about it? Get their ass kicked by the British again?

As an American….Get out! Save yourself from Euroland!

William Eaton on January 22, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Mr. Cameron plans to say that British people feel the EU is heading in a direction the country never signed up for,

None of the various peoples “signed up” for this EU. The few referenda they had on the EU constitution went down in flames so they stopped the voting and instead forced the EU through the backdoor with the Lisbon Treaty – which didn’t require the votes of any of the peons as it was a treaty and not a constitution.

The whole EU project has been a sick joke from the start, but that’s just par for the course for Europe of the last hundred years. A truly pathetic continent that has only been able to make it after WWII because the US did all the heavy lifting for them – for which most Europeans hate the US and have prayed for our destruction, hence their love of born British subject and Indonesian Retard, Barky. The Euro, itself, was only created in order to attack the dollar and destroy the American monetary system. That’s the thanks we get for saving their sorry azzes and supporting them throughout the 20th century. We won’t make that mistake twice.

As to the British referendum on EU membership … LOL. They’ll never do it, which is why they talk about the possibility of doing it two years from now – after the election! Personally, I couldn’t care less what they decide. The EU is a joke and all of its members deserve to be dragged down the abyss with it. But the EU really deserves Barky. I’d donate to get him a one-way ticket to Europe … or Indonesia … or anywhere – though he really shoudl stand trial for all the crimes he’s committed while in the office he was never eligible to hold, and those crimes are myriad and serious.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 22, 2013 at 9:07 PM

GB: An entire nation of racists who won’t listen to the sage advice and deep wisdom of the First Black Everything Man.

Bishop on January 22, 2013 at 9:10 PM

France has warned David Cameron against seeking an EU “à la carte”

Make the choice clear: all or nothing. See what the brits decide.

Except Scotland will break away and join the EU with its shddy currency.

Greek Fire on January 22, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Anything that makes the French angry is OK by me. Cameron is ignoring Barky’s “suggestion” that the Brits stay in the EU. That ought to show you how much the world respects our Dear Leader.

Philly on January 22, 2013 at 9:16 PM

PappyD61 on January 22, 2013 at 8:56 PM

I’m pretty sure that the Community Charge and the riots had more to do with it than the EU.

wargamer6 on January 22, 2013 at 9:16 PM

Best Nigel Farage speeches
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGNoZfvRoA

canopfor on January 22, 2013 at 9:21 PM

The Appeaser Comes Clean: “Peace In Our Time”

Resist We Much on January 22, 2013 at 9:11 PM

Excellent piece as usual. Thanks RWM

CoffeeLover on January 22, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Run away, Brave Sir Robin!! Run away!!

(cue the coconuts)

Khun Joe on January 22, 2013 at 9:31 PM

‘The Euro Game Is Up! Just who the hell do you think you are?’ – Nigel Farage MEP
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyq7WRr_GPg

canopfor on January 22, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Well if it annoys France it can’t be all bad.

rbj on January 22, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Indeed.

Please give generously to the Society for the Annoying of France.

viking01 on January 22, 2013 at 9:31 PM

This Grand Unification EU Plan,is Scrotched!!

canopfor on January 22, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Excellent piece as usual. Thanks RWM

CoffeeLover on January 22, 2013 at 9:23 PM

I JUST finished it. I kind-sorta proofed it. Did you notice any errors? I really need to go back and read it slowly. If you couldn’t tell, it was written with astonishment at his ignorance and anger.

When Sheila “Weapons Grade Stupid” Jackson-Lee at the Johnson Space Center, “Did the Mars Rover take any images of the flag Neil Armstrong planted on Mars?”, her colleague, Vernon Ehlers, sighed and stated, “We don’t teach enough science in this country.”

With Obama and his “the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor” and his “Emperor Hirohito forcibly made by Gen Douglas MacArthur to come dressed in tails & a topper to surrender on the deck of the USS Missouri,” one half expects to hear the historically-challenged John “Bluto” Blutarsky ask Obama “Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?”

Boon and I will pull another pint and say: “Forget it, they’re rolling.”

It’s a sad day when the President of the United States becomes John “Bluto” Blutarsky.

Channeling Vernon Ehlers: “We don’t teach enough history in this country.”

Resist We Much on January 22, 2013 at 9:37 PM

This is pure theater. The UK has already ratified the Treaty of Lisbon. A referendum rejecting EU membership after the fact won’t change that. This is all about getting Cameron re-elected and nothing more.

Rich H on January 22, 2013 at 9:38 PM

I remember being in europe when this was all just beginning, and hearing all the hopeful talk of the socialist. Luckily I was too drunk to repond.

wolly4321 on January 22, 2013 at 9:40 PM

Scrotched Earth.

Bishop on January 22, 2013 at 9:41 PM

1) The UK must exit the EU. It’s a matter of survival. Not joking. (I swear, sometimes I think that I care more about that place than they do.)

2) There are no Conservatives in the UK. And that’s the way it’s becoming here too. Just different team names of Socialism.

3) The two biggest problems with the EU is a) totally opaque Socialism, and 2) the fact that these scumbag EU bureaucrats signed deals to allow a tsunami of Muslims into their countries. (Everyone needs to read Bat Ye’or’s great book Eurabia. You won’t understand what’s happening there until you do.)

WhatSlushfund on January 22, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Scrotched Earth.

Bishop on January 22, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Bishop:I blame Hopey,for all the Discontent sumpin sumpin:)

canopfor on January 22, 2013 at 9:45 PM

erm, I meant ‘b)’. Got a bit excited there.

WhatSlushfund on January 22, 2013 at 9:51 PM

England needs a new, monster version of Wat Tyler – before it really is too late!

OldEnglish on January 22, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Th EU was one of the stupidest ideas in history.
Run for you lives!

katy the mean old lady on January 22, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Th EU was one of the stupidest ideas in history.
Run for you lives!

katy the mean old lady on January 22, 2013 at 10:11 PM

“Well, in theory…”-any given Leftie

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 22, 2013 at 10:58 PM

England needs a new, monster version of Wat Tyler – before it really is too late!

OldEnglish on January 22, 2013 at 9:55 PM

OldEnglish:LOl:)

canopfor on January 22, 2013 at 11:12 PM

But what is clear is that nobody in Europe can accept that a state can pick and choose [which rules it accepts],” said a senior official in President François Hollande’s administration.

….that’s right…
…………France and Greece should decide what is best for the UK.
...ah Oui’
That’s quite a circle jerk these European socialist have got themselves into.

Baxter Greene on January 23, 2013 at 1:54 AM

The French will be upset, the Germans won’t be happy, and the Obama administration thinks it’s a bad idea. On top of that, it would reclaim the UK’s national sovereignty from unelected Eurocrats in Brussels. I’m not seeing a down side for the Brits on this.

morganfrost on January 23, 2013 at 6:51 AM

The entire UK establishment wants to stay in the EU. Cameron can pretend to offer a fake vote and some fake negotiations but the UK will not be leaving the EU.

It is an election ploy. No more no less.

CorporatePiggy on January 23, 2013 at 8:23 AM

Both the US & the UK were the countries who stood up against the fascism of the left in the last century. The same way Clinton and Obama are facilitating Latin America, Canada, Asia, India and other countries to bleed the US dry, the EU is bleeding the UK dry, destroying the nation’s sovereignty and even it’s most prized laws like the Magna Carta. The globalists want to render the enemies of the left weak and broken, that is what the open mass immigration, subsidize the world, outsource the jobs, debacle is all about.

Ceolas on January 23, 2013 at 8:54 AM

What difference will it make? Haven’t other nations over there voted to leave the EU? But they haven’t because in the EU constitution, the EU doesn’t have to listen to votes from anyone.

Pretty sure that’s how it is. And these morons signed up for it.

How many freaking dictators and wars have there been in Europe.. and these geniuses make it easy for another future dictator to control them all.

Europeans are like the drunk who keeps running into a brick wall. No matter how many times he hits it.. he just gets up again and runs full speed back into it.

JellyToast on January 23, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Good riddance to the EU.

JoseQuinones on January 23, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Better for the future of their country would be an NHS exit route.

besser tot als rot on January 23, 2013 at 12:23 PM