Obama concedes: Obamacare didn’t do anything for rising health care costs
posted at 12:31 pm on January 22, 2013 by Mary Katharine Ham
It started out with such high hopes:
“I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family’s premium by up to $2,500 a year.”
That was on the trail in 2008, an audacious promise Politifact ruled flatly “Broken.” Obama repeated the promises of lower premiums and bent cost curves as a central part of his pitch in passing the health care law. It is called “The Affordable Care Act.” But most supporters of Obamacare have stopped talking about cost savings and started focusing on increased benefits, acknowledging (sometimes explicitly and sometimes implicitly) that expanded coverage and more benefits will actually cost more money, not less, but that the trade-off is worth it.
President Obama joined that crowd in his second Inaugural address Monday. It came as Obama just barely grazed two issues rather important to the American people at the end of this paragraph:
We understand that outworn programs are inadequate to the needs of our time. So we must harness new ideas and technology to remake our government, revamp our tax code, reform our schools, and empower our citizens with the skills they need to work hard or learn more, reach higher. But while the means will change, our purpose endures. A nation that rewards the effort and determination of every single American, that is what this moment requires. That is what will give real meaning to our creed. We, the people, still believe that every citizen deserves a basic measure of security and dignity. We must make the hard choices to reduce the cost of health care and the size of our deficit.
And, now for the “but,” clause, which includes all the reasons he can’t actually ever make hard choices:
But we reject the belief that America must choose between caring for the generation that built this country and investing in the generation that will build its future.
President Obama spent two years of his first term passing a giant health care bill that was supposed to address rising costs. This claim was front and center in his appeal to a joint session of Congress on the matter in 2009:
Then there’s the problem of rising costs. We spend one-and-a-half times more per person on health care than any other country, but we aren’t any healthier for it. This is one of the reasons that insurance premiums have gone up three times faster than wages. It’s why so many employers – especially small businesses – are forcing their employees to pay more for insurance, or are dropping their coverage entirely. It’s why so many aspiring entrepreneurs cannot afford to open a business in the first place, and why American businesses that compete internationally – like our automakers – are at a huge disadvantage. And it’s why those of us with health insurance are also paying a hidden and growing tax for those without it – about $1000 per year that pays for somebody else’s emergency room and charitable care.
Finally, our health care system is placing an unsustainable burden on taxpayers. When health care costs grow at the rate they have, it puts greater pressure on programs like Medicare and Medicaid. If we do nothing to slow these skyrocketing costs, we will eventually be spending more on Medicare and Medicaid than every other government program combined. Put simply, our health care problem is our deficit problem. Nothing else even comes close.
These are the facts. Nobody disputes them. We know we must reform this system.
And, so we did, allegedly with an eye toward “bending the cost curve down” and lowering premiums for families. It has been more than two years since the law passed. Critics of the law have been proven right again and again in their skepticism that it could do those things.
President Obama’s health care overhaul law will increase the nation’s health care tab instead of bringing costs down, government economic forecasters concluded Thursday in a sobering assessment of the sweeping legislation.
A report by economic experts at the Health and Human Services Department said the health care remake will achieve Obama’s aim of expanding health insurance — adding 34 million Americans to the coverage rolls.
But the analysis also found that the law falls short of the president’s twin goal of controlling runaway costs. It also warned that Medicare cuts may be unrealistic and unsustainable, driving about 15% of hospitals into the red and “possibly jeopardizing access” to care for seniors.
The mixed verdict for Obama’s signature issue is the first comprehensive look by neutral experts.
The Kaiser Family Foundation shows family premiums topped $15,000 a year for the first time in 2011, increasing a whopping 9% this year, three times more than the increase the year before. The study says that up to 2% of that increase is because of the health care law’s provisions, such as allowing families to add grown children up to 26 years old to their policies.
CLASS Act turns out to be fiction, not revenue, 2011:
How did a program so obviously unsustainable that the White House had no choice but to shut it down produce an $80 billion surplus for ObamaCare accounting purposes? Very simply, actually. The Democrats designed the first five years of CLASS to be a “vesting period” in which enrollees would pay into the program but receive no benefits yet. In other words, for the first five years, the program would have been pure profit for the government — and then, when benefits finally kicked in, the hemorrhaging would begin. The reason they did it that way is the same reason they delayed the start of ObamaCare until 2014: They knew that CBO “scores” new legislation based on its first 10 years of operation, so the more they could game the numbers during those first 10 years, the better the “score” for ObamaCare would look while Democrats were trying to sell it to the public. It was a massive accounting fraud designed to make health-care reform seem much less expensive than it really was. According to Klein, CLASS’s phony “savings” accounted for fully $70 billion of ObamaCare’s supposed $143 billion in deficit reduction.
The 1099 reporting rule turns out to be overburdensome regulation, not revenue, 2011:
The very first part of ObamaCare to get the knife was the 1099 reporting requirement. That extremist bit of legislation passed the Senate 87-12 and the House, 314-112, and landed on the President’s desk for signing on April 14. The 1099 reporting requirement was one of the funding fictions ObamaCare supporters used to make it look as if the President’s plan would fulfill his promise not to “add a dime to the deficit.” Post-passage it was almost universally recognized as unworkable. It would have required businesses to fill out an IRS form (1099) for every $600 of staples and printer paper they bought at Target within a calendar year. It closed a loophole, and that loophole was shopping.
When it was repealed, Obama called it “a big win for small business.”
Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, 2012:
When President Obama began pushing national health care legislation in 2009, he argued that reform was needed to rein in the unsustainable growth in health care spending that was crippling the budgets of businesses, states and the federal government. But a new government actuarial study finds that as a result of the law, health care spending will be $478 billion higher over the next decade than it would have otherwise been had no law been passed.
Furthermore, as a result of the health care law, about 50 cents of every dollar of health care spending in the United States will be financed by government by 2021, according to the report from the actuary’s office at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, unveiled today in the journal Health Affairs.
Then there’s the $63 Obamacare’s newly written regulations added to everyone’s premium in December, which even if it were the only increase for which Obamacare was responsible, would still put Obama $2,563 off his promise.
The charge, buried in a recent regulation, works out to tens of millions of dollars for the largest companies, employers say. Most of that is likely to be passed on to workers.
Oops, electronic records raise costs instead of lowering them, 2013:
The report predicted that widespread use of electronic records could save the United States health care system at least $81 billion a year, a figure RAND now says was overstated. The study was widely praised within the technology industry and helped persuade Congress and the Obama administration to authorize billions of dollars in federal stimulus money in 2009 to help hospitals and doctors pay for the installation of electronic records systems.
“RAND got a lot of attention and a lot of buzz with the original analysis,” said Dr. Kellermann, who was not involved in the 2005 study. “The industry quickly embraced it.”
But evidence of significant savings is scant, and there is increasing concern that electronic records have actually added to costs by making it easier to bill more for some services.
If you work for a small business, your next health insurance premium may give you sticker shock.
Many of the small-business and individual insurance policies are working the health reform law’s 2014 fees into their 2013 bills, contributing to double-digit premium increases for some people.All those new consumer benefits packed into the health reform law — birth control without a co-pay, free preventive care and limits on when insurers can turn down a customer — had to be paid for somehow.
So the law’s drafters included a new tax on health insurers, starting at $8 billion in 2014 and increasing to $14 billion within four years, to help meet the new expenses. And insurers in 2014 will also have to pay a “reinsurance contribution” to cushion health plans that end up with a lot of sick customers under new rules requiring them to cover people with pre-existing conditions.
The Government Accountability Office, 2013:
The Government Accountability Office (GAO)’s annual audit of the government, released Thursday, raises serious concerns about the federal government’s long-term financial stability and the effectiveness of the Affordable Care Act’s cost-curbing measures.
The report found “that—absent policy changes—the federal government continues to face an unsustainable fiscal path.”
Obamacare has already failed in its promises. Our president spent two years, during the worst economic downturn since the Depression, passing a law more than 50 percent of the public still hates because 85 percent of them were satisfied with their current coverage, imperfect though it was. He turned the crayon box upside down to draw a picture no one wanted and we all must now pay more money to enjoy his vision. The only spending problem he’ll concede we have has been exacerbated by his own signature “achievement.”
These are the facts. Nobody disputes them. Not even Obama.
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Supporter didn’t read it, even after Pelosi passed it.
Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 7:23 PM
Dumb, lazy American voters…..
…but we ALL get the government the LEFT deserves.
Lucky us.
PappyD61 on May 20, 2013 at 7:25 PM
No problem, Sebelius will simply write another 3000 pages of regulations to thwart the cleverness of corporation CEOs and lawyers.
fogw on May 20, 2013 at 7:26 PM
It was all part of the plan.
Philly on May 20, 2013 at 7:27 PM
Absolutely oblivious to human nature. How many of them ran out to hire more people…on their OWN dime? Yeah, I thought so. Audit all the Obamacare proponents! #SeeHowThatWorks?
CitizenEgg on May 20, 2013 at 7:30 PM
“It’s such a blessing to see you, Mr. President. Thank you for taking time out of your day. OH GRACIOUS GOD! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
I work at Mcdonalds part time…
What are you going to do about me getting better health insurance?
WHAT???
You are leveling the playing field???
Everyone else will have the same coverage as me??”
Electrongod on May 20, 2013 at 7:32 PM
davidk on May 20, 2013 at 7:33 PM
Politicians are not as smart as the average person, let alone people who own and run businesses…
They are good at garnering votes, getting elected…that is all.
right2bright on May 20, 2013 at 7:33 PM
Good olde Julio Osequeda.
tom daschle concerned on May 20, 2013 at 7:34 PM
Our nitwit union leadership were all for this dog. They all have been told to take their family pictures down the union office. It will be easier for them to move when they are voted out.
Thicklugdonkey on May 20, 2013 at 7:34 PM
B-b-b-but it looked so good on paper!/
cornbred on May 20, 2013 at 7:35 PM
What, yet another fascistic government control and welfare program doomed to failure from conception?
When 47% of those allowed to vote have IQs less than 47 and morality quotients at or near Obama (i.e., Zero) — you’re bound to get more of the same on the road to serfdom and catastrophic national implosion …
ShainS on May 20, 2013 at 7:35 PM
You mean those astroturfing angry bitter racist homophobes who cling to their guns and religion ? Those millions of people ?
burrata on May 20, 2013 at 7:36 PM
Is this the site with the “Louis Renault Award?”
If it IS, I’d recommend it’s issuance, at least for today.
JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 7:38 PM
It truly boggles the mind that there can be so many high-level “advisers” and cabinet officers in this administration with this degree of stupidity.
They couldn’t have anticipated that most employers would offer the cheapest health insurance policies the law would allow? Seriously? Seriously?
AZCoyote on May 20, 2013 at 7:38 PM
I get a kick when 0 says
Define ‘working’. What is the desired outcome of the person saying ‘working’.
kurtzz3 on May 20, 2013 at 7:39 PM
I agree. Te law was not written in the Senate. The whole deal is typical of the social manipulations performed by the likes of Soros, who prefers to change the environment so the herds of inferior lemmings will rush towards whatever trap he has set.
Look what the evil bosses have planned for the poor workers.
That is how it will be demogoged
entagor on May 20, 2013 at 7:41 PM
I hope all the libs who voted for and still love Obama choke when they see the results of this when it comes to fruition. I hope they pay out the wazoo for less coverage than they have right now.
Of course many of us will suffer, too, but libs are big into sharing. So, I don’t mind seeing the pain spread around to them, for once and at long last.
Liam on May 20, 2013 at 7:41 PM
Here is hoping to a fall. *clink!*
Bmore on May 20, 2013 at 7:43 PM
Gosh, oh Golly! You don’t suppose that the fact that the Socialist in Chief and his socialist lackies and sycophants, none of whom have a clue how an economy works, could have foreseen this development?/sarc
This is what happens when folks elect a “community organizer” and a mob of dirty, filthy, stinking, hippy occupy types to run the country/
It’s gonna take more than a generation to undo the damage these morons have done.
TKindred on May 20, 2013 at 7:43 PM
Where my wife works.. they just had a meeting a few weeks ago about the changes in insurance. Premiums doubled from about 160. every two weeks to over 300. Deductible also doubled from 500 to 1000.
This is going to devastate some employees who can’t handle a payment that just doubled. But, what difference does that make since the people are irrelevant.
Say hello to the freaking affordable care act.
I’m telling you… congress is going to secretly exempt themselves and their staffs. This will be how they keep loyal staffs. Cross your congressman or Senator.. and your out of the cushy health care system and kicked into the one for the peasants.
They are going to do it even while they say they aren’t. But they will.
JellyToast on May 20, 2013 at 7:45 PM
So Robert Kocher, a former White House health adviser who helped shepherd the law, can you guess what I want to do to you with that thing that this ugly bat is holding in her hands ??
burrata on May 20, 2013 at 7:47 PM
These darn fools all need to read Adam Smith and learn something about the invisible hand.
The masterminds in DC think they are smarter and better able to manage the economy than 300 million Americans acting out of self-interest.
Charlemagne on May 20, 2013 at 7:48 PM
He based that conclusion on what? A wing and a prayer?
Liam on May 20, 2013 at 7:50 PM
I remember a while ago when it became apparent that teenage girls paid a lot less in auto insurance than teenage boys. When it was pointed out and people started complaining, the insurance companies announced that they would be happy to level the playing field. The solution of course was to raise the insurance rates for teenage girls. Opposition melted away and the issue was never discussed again for years in the media.
The song The Trees, by Rush is more than just a song on an album; it’s a tried and true method for control of unruly factions.
CitizenEgg on May 20, 2013 at 7:51 PM
Perhaps if you Obama goons had spent more time listening to Patriotic Dissenters instead of using the IRS to harass them you would’ve know what was going to happen.
txhsmom on May 20, 2013 at 7:52 PM
The Underpants Gnomes strike again.
myiq2xu on May 20, 2013 at 7:53 PM
Square that with the selling points for the carbon tax, tobacco taxes, energy taxes, luxury taxes, etc…..all designed to modify behavior and reduce consumption of the target good or service.
To actually say they didn’t foresee a reduction in consumption due to a tax requires a willing suspension of disbelief.
“Our expectation was that stores would offer high quality cigarettes“.
BobMbx on May 20, 2013 at 7:53 PM
Das Kapital
burrata on May 20, 2013 at 7:55 PM
+100
Liam on May 20, 2013 at 7:57 PM
I know this is going to sound stupid but would you buy your employers insurance if it had no hospital coverage
gerrym51 on May 20, 2013 at 8:00 PM
An upside is that, with their wallets thinner and lighter for sake of Obamacare, liberals won’t have as much money to donate to the DEm Party and their fave liberal causes. I’m Hollywood, and the unions will take up the slack, hitting them in the purse, too.
This last time, Bill Maher handed over to the Dems a cool million. I wonder how he’ll like being hit up for a million and a half next time.
Liam on May 20, 2013 at 8:01 PM
Extra points for quoting Neil Peart!
turfmann on May 20, 2013 at 8:03 PM
And as premiums continue to rise, even these bare bones plans will become to expensive, and more and more employers will drop coverage altogether. Welcome to Obamacare.
mbs on May 20, 2013 at 8:08 PM
Obviously a man who has never run a business of his own. Bet he’s an academic, non-profit employee or life-long government employee.
Wethal on May 20, 2013 at 8:10 PM
And what happens to a person who works at a job and gets health insurance, then gets laid off and goes to the exchanges, then six months later gets a different job, etc.?
He will never have health insurance for sure; he will have various applications for insurance floating around government and business computers forever.
PattyJ on May 20, 2013 at 8:10 PM
National Review, WSJ… so pretty much nobody on the left knows what’s what sort of train wreck is on the way.
Hill60 on May 20, 2013 at 8:10 PM
Liberal elites won’t give a damn, Obamacare will never touch them. The liberal elites are those wealthy enough that Obamacare doesn’t matter, and the greedy-union elites that are exempted from Obamacare.
It’s the low-information voters in the middle class that will get the shaft.
slickwillie2001 on May 20, 2013 at 8:13 PM
They have no clue. When premiums first started rising a year ago, and though Obama was giving all those waives to unions, liberals simply decided the increases are because of ‘corporate greed’ on the part of the insurance companies. I’m sure many still believe it.
Liam on May 20, 2013 at 8:15 PM
If socialized government regulated health care was so good there would not be a huge medical center in Plattsburgh, New York (population ~ 6000) just an hour drive from Montreal, Quebec, Canada. The Quebecois love their socialism, except when it comes to actually getting timely medical treatment, then they flock south of the border. Where can we flock to once ObamaCare gets fully implemented? Thailand, perhaps India or Singapore? Guaranteed that is where overlords well head.
simkeith on May 20, 2013 at 8:16 PM
Obamacare Supporter Gets Mugged By Reality…Pure Schadenfreude Ensues
Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 8:20 PM
There was a time when people in India dreamed of coming to America to get Health Care. Soon now, under Obama, people in America will dream of going to India to get Health Care.
Martin Luther King: “I have a dream”.
Barack Hussein Obama: “I bring death”.
VorDaj on May 20, 2013 at 8:20 PM
Pics of the Day: Meet ‘Mr Balls’
Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 8:20 PM
It’s.The.Law.
And.It.Sucks.
hillsoftx on May 20, 2013 at 8:20 PM
It turns out that it generates more profit for the company to pay the mandate instead of the benefit. That being said, small companies with great talent will crumble to the larger companies that offer better benefits when their top talent jumps ship.
ericdijon on May 20, 2013 at 8:21 PM
May they all get affirmative action doctors.
VorDaj on May 20, 2013 at 8:22 PM
That was so heartbreaking! Too bad I don’t play violin…/
Pffft!
Liam on May 20, 2013 at 8:22 PM
If Obamacare is ever fully implemented, offshore healthcare will explode. Bahamas, Bermuda, Virgins, India, Thailand; all of those places will benefit, and many of the doctors there will have left the USA.
slickwillie2001 on May 20, 2013 at 8:24 PM
Hey, show some sensitivity, that’s Hotlips new job!
slickwillie2001 on May 20, 2013 at 8:25 PM
A plan devised by the people that think they are smart.
jukin3 on May 20, 2013 at 8:26 PM
The Country screamed at Congress and 85% of the Nation was satisfied with their health coverage but we got it rammed down our throats and it was not read through until it was passed; And political writers tell us to write and call our Congress. You’ve GOT to be kidding me.
mixplix on May 20, 2013 at 8:28 PM
this was the whole premise behind david halberstam’s The Best and the Brightest. JFK’s admin had the best and the brightest, just like barry. And they got us into the Vietnam war…because they just didn’t understand the situation very well.
politicians, especially leftists, always think they are brighter than everyone else. But they are not. In fact their NPD shuts off the information needed to make good decisions.
pretty stupid…but it pays very well…and you get to be on TV and adored by other people
r keller on May 20, 2013 at 8:28 PM
I get really angry at my friends and relatives who I know voted to re-elect President Obama every single month when I pay my health insurance bill which has almost TRIPLED in cost since Obamacare was passed.
I explained to them over and over again before the election how bad Obamacare was going to be, but they still voted for Obama.
Democrats should know that half of this country is very, very angry at them for their stupid votes.
wren on May 20, 2013 at 8:30 PM
Well they’ve already admitted THEY ARE THE MOST INCOMPETENT ADMINISTRATION, EVAH!
GarandFan on May 20, 2013 at 8:32 PM
Of course, these acolytes of Obama and Obamacare having zero experience in business, not a clue about managing a real budget, never once having maintain a payroll or produce products or services at a competitive price…well…they still seem to believe most employers are not in business to make a profit. Nor do they have a clue as to keeping a business running as efficiently as possible.
When all you have is some sort of pie-in-the-sky notion that real employers hire folks so they can feel good…this sort of stuff is to be expected.
After the impeachment, can we talk about abolishing Obamacare in its entirety?
coldwarrior on May 20, 2013 at 8:33 PM
We all know that it was never about health care. The cACA was about the biggest tax hike in history and more importantly putting a politicized IRS in control of people’s lives.
jukin3 on May 20, 2013 at 8:34 PM
hahahaha..
there is always a work around.
It shall be found.
bazil9 on May 20, 2013 at 8:36 PM
This is all according to plan. The ultimate goal is to get universal, gov’t healthcare. The way to do this is to eliminate the insurance industry. The Obama administration will demonize them as being greedy and selfish, not caring about the little guy, and the sheeple will say, “Yeah! Go git ‘em, Obama!”
Decoski on May 20, 2013 at 8:42 PM
That’s just nuts!
VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 8:43 PM
Oh, My…Just When You Thought That It Couldn’t Get Any Worse… Obama’s IRS Went After A Survivor Of A Japanese Concentration Camp For Her Political Speech
Seriously bad optics.
Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 8:43 PM
Oddly there are not many trolls on this thread either. Is barky saving his money for his defense team?
VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 8:46 PM
they had to jam thru something…the left didn’t much care what (i know, there’s the whining about the public option, but that was just political theater)
the Ds seriously didn’t care what was in the bill…that can be ‘fixed’ later. The message was the major thing
Obama Will Pass a National Heath Care Reform bill…for all the little people.
like that leftist form IA Harkin said…it is a Christmas present to the Peasants…soaking the Rich to give free stuff to the Peasants. That was all this was.
The press cheered and adored the new Nation. The Right to health care was a reality in their lifetimes!
that is the only thing the left/media care about. Tweaks (single payer) come later…barry will still be, and always be, the Won
r keller on May 20, 2013 at 8:46 PM
You will buy the mandated health insurance and you will like it. Otherwise, you will be harassed by the IRS until you are bankrupt and humiliated by order of Dear Leader (PBUH).
Philly on May 20, 2013 at 8:49 PM
Obamacare was designed to fail. It will collapse under its own ridiculous weight. And the healthcare market will become destabilized.
Then they will pass Single-Payer because that was the plan all along. Problem solved.
Never let a manufactured crisis go to waste.
goflyers on May 20, 2013 at 8:52 PM
It would be better to get the government, employers and insurance companies out of the healthcare business completely.
Pets get better treatment for less cash than people do under these bloated, controlling, wasteful and fraudulent health-care plans.
It’s not just Obamacare, but the whole idea that a big bureaucracy must be involved in the delivery of any service. Last time I checked, I did not need to fill out a form to get my oil changed, I don’t claim it from my car insurance … and that’s not a problem.
virgo on May 20, 2013 at 8:52 PM
I thought one of the lessons the fall of the Soviet Union was that economic central planning doesn’t work.
Why is it that people are so afraid to trust markets?
antifederalist on May 20, 2013 at 8:57 PM
Well don’t look at me :-)
antisocial on May 20, 2013 at 9:05 PM
Free healthcare is going to price most out of the system.
tom daschle concerned on May 20, 2013 at 9:06 PM
In the Obama depression, people are lucky to have a job. Think they’re going to be choosy about health care?
If it’s bare bones or Medicaid, it’s not a tough choice.
NoDonkey on May 20, 2013 at 9:33 PM
It has just begun.
The serious pain and shock will hit mid 2014.
Many of us working for small employers will just be glad to have any coverage. The exchanges aren’t happening and the socialist vision of single payer will not have happened yet.
of course, the government workers, union thugs and the ruling elite will have their “seperate but equal” healthcare. No problem for them.
acyl72 on May 20, 2013 at 9:38 PM
When we told people that Obamacare would make them pay more for less, they would not believe us. They just kept saying it is free and you can keep your plan if you like it. Sadly, slogans are not a good substitute for market competition forces.
KW64 on May 20, 2013 at 9:48 PM
I’ve always felt that the purpose of this legislation was to bring about single payer health care, they just plan on doing it through the back door. Once this plan is implemented, and completely destroys the present insurance system, people will be clamoring for the government to take over health care and they’ll be more than happy to do it.
It’s amazing that the insurance companies were so willing to commit suicide for Obama on this one. I guess they just don’t understand the plan. More Soylent Green anyone?
bflat879 on May 20, 2013 at 10:33 PM
Top. Men.
Cicero43 on May 20, 2013 at 11:36 PM
But
But
I got weed and beer
Who cares
Ribbit.
losarkos on May 21, 2013 at 7:26 AM
Only a fool tries to regulate supply and demand
Everyone has self interests, consumers, lobbyists, politicians, etc.
The system is dynamic and the participants adapt to changes in the system.
There is no utopia on earth and only misery results from its forced pursuit.
Not-a-Marxist on May 21, 2013 at 7:41 AM
Actually, I completely missed this loophole in the 50 pages of the bill I read. Health insurance has evolved in an odd way, but was always intended to cover major procedures and serious illnesses-the expnesive things. Obamacare tried to expand it to cover every preventive procedure known to man, but took it for granted that insurance would continue to cover the items people actually need insurance for and thus didn’t specifiy that.
Now, no individual would ever buy a policy like this, only covering preventive care, but a business would in a minute if they could save money.
The Obamacare authors have missed to whole point of insurance coverage. It’s not supposed to cover routine maintence like painting your house or oil changes or shots-those are items you are supposed to pay for yourself. It’s supposed to cover maor things, a house burning down, an accident or cancer surgery
talkingpoints on May 21, 2013 at 8:04 AM
My family plan costs over $1200 per month. I forget what my deductible is. But I think it’s $500.
It’s one of those Cadillac policies.
My employer,a public school in small town ND, pays 98% of it.
Yes. You saw that.
I also live in the same county & pay taxes. Too many taxes.
ND being drunk with oil $$, well, those little town govts. they howl for more $$ & sometimes the state gives it to them.
I am outraged & appalled by the growth of state govt.
And I pay more in taxes for native prairie pasture than farmers do for ‘prime’ farmland. WTF?!
I’m not quite sure what is going to happen with this Obamacare regarding these types of Cadillac plans. Perhaps I should buy a damned book.
Bcs I cannot see our small screwl being able to do this much longer.
Badger40 on May 21, 2013 at 8:06 AM
And if the New Deal BS had never come down the pike, voted for by the ‘greatest generation’ (which is BS), healthcare would be like car insurance & paying to get your car fixed, more affordable.
Although really these days I would argue that getting your car repaired isn’t hardly affordable anymore bcs of GOVT MANDATES on everything associated with it.
IT’s why I have AFLAC. And I guess next Sept I’m going to add cancer coverage as well.
Badger40 on May 21, 2013 at 8:09 AM
How many times do the “best and brightest” in government get to say “oops” before even progressives realize that government cannot write rules and processes to micromanage a major sector of the economy regardless of how many staff members assigned to the job boast Ivy League credentials?
Nomas on May 21, 2013 at 8:20 AM
Here’s what we’re in for if we are lucky enough to keep benifits supplied by our employer.
Look around on that site. They want to send texts to remind you to take your meds, harrass you on social media, etc.
If you think govt prying into every aspect of your life is onerous, get ready for your boss and insurance company to be incentivized to inflict nanny misery.
Akzed on May 21, 2013 at 9:22 AM
“commomly held”? By whom?
What happens when you let the lunatics run the asylum.
dissent555 on May 21, 2013 at 9:38 AM
From my experience in the healthcare field, working for a company that saves money for employers with self-funded plans… the only wellness program that has measurable benefits that actually work, is tobacco cessation.
All the other ones are very subjective, and depend greatly on the will of the participant to change their lifestyle and keep it changed over a long period of time.
But the problem is… the people with the willpower are usually the ones that already maintain a healthy lifestyle, and do not benefit from wellness programs. And the people with lower willpower do not have a healthy lifestyle, and will rarely enact major change (because of their lower willpower) and thus benefit from wellness.
dominigan on May 21, 2013 at 10:02 AM
The goal was always single payer. The MSM knows this. They are all complicit. Are the GOPers once again going to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat? This is the perfect time to put forward legislation to postpone Obamacare. With the IRS as it’s main enforcer and the recent revelations of the same the GOP has the chance to say we need to wait on Obamacare since we are in the middle of this IRS investigation. Then when in 2014 they sweep in and take over the senate and hold the house they can start to de-fund this turkey. If the GOP isn’t able to get this legislation passed then again they will have the perfect opportunity to point out to voters what is coming and say they tried to stop it. Will the GOP finally prove they are on the other side or will they finally prove they are in cohoots with the Dems in destroying this country? The ball is in the GOPs court.
neyney on May 21, 2013 at 10:09 AM
(emphasis mine) My question is WHY?
Employers respond to incentives. Given the uncertainties involved (another thing that Mr. Kocher would probably say was unexpected), the employers will seek out the lowest-cost plans consistent with their needs, at least initially, that would meet the legal requirements then as the situation develops adjust accordingly.
The idea that employers would not respond is the same kind of thing as expecting that taxpayers would not respond to changes in tax rates and the tax code. Increase costs (or taxes) associated with the current setup/compensation and employers/people adjust to it, as best they can.
Russ808 on May 21, 2013 at 4:47 PM