NBC/WSJ poll: For first time, majority thinks abortion should be legal in all or most cases

posted at 9:31 am on January 22, 2013 by Allahpundit

If you’re hung over from drinking the blues away on Inauguration Day, bad news: It’s time to open another beer. New numbers on the 40th anniversary of Roe:

According to the poll, 54 percent of adults say that abortion should be legal either always or most of the time, while a combined 44 percent said it should be illegal – either with or without exceptions…

In addition, a whopping 70 percent of Americans oppose the Roe v. Wade decision from being overturned, including 57 percent who feel strongly about this…

By comparison, just 24 percent now want the Roe v. Wade decision overturned, including 21 percent who feel strongly about this position.

Much of this change, the NBC/WSJ pollsters say, is coming from African Americans, Latinos and women without college degrees — all of whom increasingly oppose the Supreme Court decision from being overturned.

Before today the highest number NBC/WSJ had recorded for keeping abortion legal in all or most cases was 49 percent in 2008. When you drill down into that data, you find that the number who want abortion legal in all cases — no exceptions, presumably not even for late term — is 31 percent, which is also a new high. Say this for Obama’s new coalition — they elected the right guy.

As for overturning Roe, despite the sturm and drang of Supreme Court confirmation hearings, Americans have never been keen on doing so. Pew’s recent poll on abortion found 63 percent opposed to the idea; in 1992, the number was 60 percent. NBC/WSJ sees a bit more movement over time but support for the status quo has been constant through the years in their data too:

Why the recent uptick? NBC’s pollsters speculate it’s partly a backlash to the Akin/Mourdock rape comments last year, but I don’t know. My sense is that backlashes like that tend to burn out fairly quickly. Obama won and Akin and Mourdock both lost, so the “threat” of a post-Roe world has passed for abortion supporters. I think the likelier explanation, as noted in the excerpt, is changing demographics. Pew published a set of polls a few weeks after the election showing that the 18-to-29 group that got Obama reelected was also the age demographic most supportive of keeping abortion legal in all or most cases. They were also far more likely — 14 points more likely — than any other age group to say that government should do more than that government is doing too much. Imagine their surprise when they find out America can’t pay for the government it has right now.

Now that you’ve digested those numbers, try to digest this one. Exit question: Do these numbers augur the eventual end of SCOTUS confirmation fights over Roe? A newly elected Republican president would be caught between social conservatives in his base, who want the decision overturned, and pretty much the entire rest of the electorate, which doesn’t. Makes me wonder if GOP candidates won’t start veering away from the idea of getting rid of Roe via new appointments and pushing the idea of a Human Life Amendment instead. They could sell it is a true democratic solution, the way the Founders intended, knowing all the while that it hasn’t a prayer of passing.

Update: Almost forgot: If you believe Pew, a majority of the 18-to-29 group that’s now steering the ship of state and that strongly opposes overturning Roe doesn’t know which issue Roe v. Wade actually dealt with.

Update: Life News notes that the poll question is misleading in how it describes the core holding of Roe. Fair enough, but assuming that the question has been similarly worded over time, you’re still seeing support increase since the late 1980s for a ruling that protects abortion within the first three months of pregnancy. And the more generic question, about whether abortion should be legal all or most of the time, has drawn majority support in other polls as well. Scroll through Polling Report’s compilation of data over the past few years. In a Gallup poll conducted last May, 50 percent identified as “pro-life” versus just 41 percent who identified as “pro-choice.” But when asked whether abortion should be legal always or sometimes, 52 percent said it should be legal sometimes and another 21 percent said always. There’s room for some optimism in those numbers — the public may be open to greater restrictions — but there’s a lot of work to be done to build a majority for an outright ban. In fact, maybe this table from Pew is the most daunting of all:


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it’s partly a backlash to the Akin/Mourdock rape comments last year

Only a few months ago, actually.

John the Libertarian on January 22, 2013 at 9:34 AM

It is very disconcerting to have a headline thread moved down without bringing the comments from the headline thread. As well as having it going on in both places at the same time.

Dr. Frank Enstine on January 22, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Are there poll numbers available from, say, 1825, on how many Americans supported slavery in that year? Just curious.

Abortion is murder. No matter what the polls may say today, it is murder and needs to be ended.

gocatholic on January 22, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Overturning Roe will never occur, the lefties would burn down the entire nation and kill people in droves before letting that happen.

Bishop on January 22, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Come back next year with the same poll and let’s see. Outlier perhaps?

Then again, with this nation sliding ever downwards morally, in some respects it’s sadly not surprising.

Unborn babies are people too, but don’t tell that to Julia or Fluke; don’t rain on their parade and oppress them with your morality man, it’s their body and that trumps anyone else. The “me” generation is still here.

Logus on January 22, 2013 at 9:39 AM

In addition, a whopping 70 percent of Americans oppose the Roe v. Wade decision from being overturned, including 57 percent who feel strongly about this

Id’ like to know how many of these people think abortion would become illegal if the decision were overturned. I’m guessing it would be a solid majority.

forest on January 22, 2013 at 9:39 AM

This is disgusting. This country is sinking. Will it be able to get up out of the quicksand? I dunno.

nyclakerfan on January 22, 2013 at 9:39 AM

I have never been personally close to the abortion debate, so I have a detached view of it.

I have however, known all the major players in the “Roe” case. I knew who McCorvey was before she went public and asked Henry Wade about the case.

The plaintiffs attorneys didn’t think it would be as historic, or last. Go figure. Heck, it wasn’t even Linda Coffee’s biggest case.

What the poll tells me is that we continue our death spiral.

cozmo on January 22, 2013 at 9:40 AM

forest on January 22, 2013 at 9:39 AM

I’d like to know how many of those people even really know what Roe does.

cozmo on January 22, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Overturning Roe will never occur, the lefties would burn down the entire nation and kill people in droves before letting that happen.

Bishop on January 22, 2013 at 9:36 AM

They do that in Detroit just because the sun came up.

Flange on January 22, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Hey, we saw it during the election. The message delivered by whores like Sandra Fluke clearly resonated with greedy stupid myopic women. Who are apparently growing in numbers. One of the biggest faults of the Romney campaign was not to go out after the whores who lied about GOP intentions concerning abortions. Further, the GOP was not helped by idiots like Akin and his supporters.

The really sad part is that you’ve got a majority of Americans and a majority of women who do not value the life of a child. Instead you’ve got whores, sluts, and those who just want the convenience of killing off a life- no questions asked. No judgement by society. The Sandra Flukes of the world may think they have won but far too many of them will get to later stages of their lives and come to realize what unfeeling monsters they have been. God have mercy on their souls.

Happy Nomad on January 22, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Another left leaning poll that gives the desired result the pollsters are seeking? One thing I’ve learned from the past few elections is that the adage “figures lie and liars figure” still holds true.

iamsaved on January 22, 2013 at 9:44 AM

I’d like to know how many of those people even really know what Roe does.

cozmo on January 22, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Very few, I’d bet. We live in the age of the low-information voter (we used to call these people morons). The left has had this mantra about the sanctity of protecting Roe v. Wade for so long it is a tenet of faith and the greedy stupid myopic women that are the most vocal are apt to be the most clueless as well.

Happy Nomad on January 22, 2013 at 9:44 AM

“Me.”

blatantblue on January 22, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Exit answer: This 18-29 demographic who thinks government should be even more nanny-licious, in addition to being clueless about Roe V Wade particulars, are probably the same ones who don’t know the root meaning of ‘augur,’ either.

God save the Republic.

locomotivebreath1901 on January 22, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Show the 18-29 yr olds the video of the fetus retreating into the womb as the curette is coming at it to scoop it out and destroy it OR show them a video of a 2nd trimester abortion where the babies head is partially delivered and an ice-pick is shoved into its skull to kill it instantly. Or, if that’s too gory for you, show them a women being administered methotrexate and let watch as she writhes in pain from the termination of the pregnancy….

Tell me something, why don’t “Health Classes” in High School show that video?? Instead of the Planned Parenthood approved video where the nice looking lady comes on the screen and happily explains to all the young ladies in the room that having that child that they conceived in stupidity is sometimes “just not an option for you” and that there are “alternatives…”

powerpickle on January 22, 2013 at 9:45 AM

We’ll see how favorable it is a few years after NY allows abortionists who aren’t licensed medical doctors to perform the procedures. In the meantime, let the liberals cull their own herd if that’s what they want so badly.

Liam on January 22, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Culture of Death®

Brat on January 22, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Not surprising at all. The Left devalues life at every turn, and as we drift more and more towards European style socialism it stands to reason that abortion would become more and more enshrined.

changer1701 on January 22, 2013 at 9:46 AM

They just don’t want to be “punished with a baby”.///

Self-centered jackwagons.

kingsjester on January 22, 2013 at 9:48 AM

They’re really nothing more than lumps of flesh, like a cyst. Ok they have arms, legs, eyes, brains, hearts, souls…but still, essentially just cysts.

Bishop on January 22, 2013 at 9:50 AM

When you drill down into that data, you find that the number who want abortion legal in all cases — no exceptions, presumably not even for late term — is 31 percent, which is also a new high.

That might be the most chilling piece of data in the entire poll. Now in fairness, if you actually described partial birth abortion to the respondent when conducting the poll, you’d probably get far fewer folks voicing their approval. Then again. I’ve been giving the American electorate far too much credit lately, so who really knows?

I will say this regarding the abortion debate. For those who eventually want Roe v. Wade overturned, you better start focusing on smaller victories(i.e. requiring parental notification for minors, defunding Planned Parenthood, requiring ultrasounds before an abortion can be performed, etc.) and quit swinging for the fences. Win enough of the seemingly minor concessions and before you know it, you have the upper hand in the entire debate. The left seems to understand this far better than us.

Doughboy on January 22, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Eh. So, they don’t know the name of a particular case but know the holding — hardly unusual.

Blake on January 22, 2013 at 9:51 AM

I can’t wait for the poll that says it’s OK to rob banks. We’re at the point in our society where we feel we can pick & choose which laws we’re going to obey and which ones we aren’t. Why not? The president gets away with it! The constitution is nothing to this administration.
The press just plays right along. I am thoroughly disgusted with Washington (both parties). They run for office for self enrichment and fame, not out of civic duty. They have become the lowest life forms on the planet. And now a newspaper poll says the majority of us think it’s perfectly fine to kill our babies. Lookout Grandma, you’re next!

Boats48 on January 22, 2013 at 9:51 AM

You can blame it on whoever you want but it is the constant desensitizing of the difference between right and wrong. If the movies and medis say it is ok, it must be ok. If the politicians fund it, it must be ok. If the church goes lukewarm and preaches some fuzzy theology, it has to be ok. It is life people and just because two people crawl in the sack and make a baby, does not give them a right to take a life. They should have thought about the biological ramifications beforehand. Biology and Gods natural law go hand in hand. Nothing has changed other than man in his sinful nature contradicting natural law. Adam and Eve wanted to play God, so why shouldn’t some powerful politician. If A and B get together between the sheets and are careless, killing a baby should not be an alternative. 55 million people, more than all the casualties from all of the wars we participated in. And pro choicers want me to be against war and the death penalty. Mass murderers even get a lawyer, what does an infant in the womb get but punished. Wars when unnecessary are wrong but the same government that half the country now allows to make decisions for them also makes decisions on what is just. Abortion is morally reprehensible and if you believe in the same God I do, you will pray that just because a news source says that it is so, maybe we can just end this. Think of the wasted relationships, the added taxpayers and yes some bad apples but we have just allowed the massacre of an entire generation…. Think about it…Mourdock and Akin aren’t at fault…we are

crosshugger on January 22, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Happy 40th Birthday, Roe v Wade!

thuja on January 22, 2013 at 9:54 AM

Didn’t y’all know? They’re not actually human humans until they leave the womb…or sumpin’./

kingsjester on January 22, 2013 at 9:54 AM

In support abortion because only liberals have them.

Forty years is roughly 2.5 generations. Sixty million abortions and none of them went on to produce children and grandchildren of their own.

By my reckoning that’s easily 90 million people not raised in liberal households.

Mr Snuggle Bunny on January 22, 2013 at 9:54 AM

Here’s a counterpoint article from Time magazine. http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevinwax/2013/01/03/time-sounds-the-alarm-the-pro-life-cause-is-winning/

Corinthian on January 22, 2013 at 9:55 AM

NBC/WSJ poll? lulz.

Mr. Arrogant on January 22, 2013 at 9:55 AM

Much of this change, the NBC/WSJ pollsters say, is coming from African Americans, Latinos and women without college degrees

This can’t be right. Our GOP amnesty shills assure us that Latinos are really social conservatives just waiting to vote Republican if only we’d stop expecting them to obey the law.

xblade on January 22, 2013 at 9:56 AM

well, and there’s this from CNN, not the “conservative news network”. http://www.lifenews.com/2012/08/24/cnn-poll-majority-of-americans-want-abortions-prohibited/

Corinthian on January 22, 2013 at 9:57 AM

I think the likelier explanation, as noted in the excerpt, is changing demographics.

Yes, contrary to the myth that Hispanics are socially conservative, 66% of Hispanics favored legal abortion in the 2012 exit polls.

Jon0815 on January 22, 2013 at 9:57 AM

Why the recent uptick? NBC’s pollsters speculate it’s partly a backlash to the Akin/Mourdock rape comments last year, but I don’t know. My sense is that backlashes like that tend to burn out fairly quickly. Obama won and Akin and Mourdock both lost, so the “threat” of a post-Roe world has passed for abortion supporters.

I don’t think it’s specifically these comments, but the overall framing of the debate from the more conservative parts of our country. They’re just unreasonable. It’s similar to Code Pink, and the backlash to that approach.

It’s gotten to the point where people are criticizing contraception or the morning after pill. I think people are pushing back on that(and probably over-pushing)

segasagez on January 22, 2013 at 9:57 AM

Happy 40th Birthday, Roe v Wade I hate black babies!

thuja on January 22, 2013 at 9:54 AM

FIFY

Flange on January 22, 2013 at 9:58 AM

Funny…..

When girls my age find out their friend is pregnant, they squeal with delight:

“OMG! You’re having a baby!”

But if abortion becomes the desired outcome, it’s suddenly a fetus.

Weird mental gymnastics we humans play.

blatantblue on January 22, 2013 at 9:58 AM

Show the 18-29 yr olds the video of the fetus retreating into the womb as the curette is coming at it to scoop it out and destroy it OR show them a video of a 2nd trimester abortion where the babies head is partially delivered and an ice-pick is shoved into its skull to kill it instantly. Or, if that’s too gory for you, show them a women being administered methotrexate and let watch as she writhes in pain from the termination of the pregnancy….

powerpickle on January 22, 2013 at 9:45 AM

You think that’s going to matter to an age group that eats up stuff like the Hostel movies?

ddrintn on January 22, 2013 at 9:58 AM

I’m surprised that many people knew what Roe v Wade was. It must be a subject of a health class in high school. They should be required to watch video of an abortion. It just might wake some people up as to what’s at stake.

Kissmygrits on January 22, 2013 at 9:58 AM

I fear for our country

clueless youngins
Cripe

cmsinaz on January 22, 2013 at 9:58 AM

More abortions means less dependents my tax dollars supports. I can live with that.

mazer9 on January 22, 2013 at 9:59 AM

I guess America is gone.
Let it Burn, Add fuel and fan as needed.
Get the cleansing done ASAP and stop pushing the can down the road.

If there must be trouble let it happen in my day so that my children may know peace.

astonerii on January 22, 2013 at 9:59 AM

segasagez on January 22, 2013 at 9:57 AM

Yeah. This whole resistance to grabbing the head of a baby with tongs and yanking them out of the womb is just sooo unreasonable./

kingsjester on January 22, 2013 at 9:59 AM

Happy 40th Birthday, Roe v Wade!

thuja on January 22, 2013 at 9:54 AM

Did you horrify the woman at the bakery counter when you explained the design you wanted on the cake?

Bishop on January 22, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Most of those polled were probably the same people who enjoyed the innauguration so much last Friday.

And since the fact that abortion and Roe v Wade is now acceptable, the left shouldn’t have any problems with showing videos of living fetuses and their reaction to pain or placing a tiny hand on an object prior to receiving an abortion. I wonder what the results of the poll would have been had those taking the poll were to view videos like that.

Let’s see, there’s been a minimum of 40 or 50 million potential wage earners that now cannot pay into the grand Ponzi scheme called Social Security. That’s not how you run a successful scam. Stupid Democrats!

iamsaved on January 22, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Agenda driven polling.

If true it represents the further collapse of the West, and America.

Unmoored from God and drifting at sea, eventually capsized by the pounding waves of sin.

Meanwhile 3,000 more innocent children will scream in pain in the womb while being torn apart by our murderous and self absorbed lives.

And we wonder why our nation is in this mess….when we remain silent on the holocaust in our midst?

PappyD61 on January 22, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Show the 18-29 yr olds the video of the fetus retreating into the womb as the curette is coming at it to scoop it out and destroy it OR show them a video of a 2nd trimester abortion where the babies head is partially delivered and an ice-pick is shoved into its skull to kill it instantly. Or, if that’s too gory for you, show them a women being administered methotrexate and let watch as she writhes in pain from the termination of the pregnancy….

powerpickle on January 22, 2013 at 9:45 AM

So you recommend adopting PETA’s playbook? How successful has that been for them?

segasagez on January 22, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Happy 40th Birthday, Roe v Wade!

thuja on January 22, 2013 at 9:54 AM

There’s nothing happy about 56 million Americans being murdered.

Ward Cleaver on January 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM

God forgive us for our national silence to this horrible crime against our fellow man,

Mercy Lord Mercy!

PappyD61 on January 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM

Usually I treat polls dealing with abortion – from ANY source – with the same trust I give thuja’s loud claims of conservatism. But after the thread about how many people don’t even know what Roe is, I’m inclined to trust this one as fairly credible. People actually want their new ‘right’ to stay.

I don’t relish the idea of what’ll happen when the money runs out for taxpayer-funded procedures; I have horrible visions of DIY abortions and unwanted babies abandoned in the woods.

MelonCollie on January 22, 2013 at 10:02 AM

In the meantime, let the liberals cull their own herd if that’s what they want so badly.

Liam on January 22, 2013 at 9:45 AM

This!!!God fearing conservatives don’t abort often.There are still large numbers of believers in this country.Any mention of stopping abortion throws the left into insane rages.Make it entirely free and let them slowly exterminate.

docflash on January 22, 2013 at 10:02 AM

No surprise. When something is made legal by the minority, the majority over time accepts it. Sad really. Too bad.

Bmore on January 22, 2013 at 10:02 AM

Bishop on January 22, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Dang it, bishop! Warn me before you do that.

Diet Coke all over the monitor…again.

kingsjester on January 22, 2013 at 10:02 AM

AP,

I am curious and really would like to know if the same results of the poll would be obtained if each and everyone of the respondents were made to sit through a graphic showing of the procedure of a ‘late term abortion’?

Any speculation as to whether they just might be a little more sensitive to “viable” human babies?

belad on January 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM

By my reckoning that’s easily 90 million people not raised in liberal households.

Mr Snuggle Bunny on January 22, 2013 at 9:54 AM

The abortion rate among blacks is five times that of whites and twice that of Hispanics. If that isn’t a recipe for genocide, I don’t know what is.

Happy Nomad on January 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM

Agenda driven polling.

PappyD61 on January 22, 2013 at 10:00 AM

It is. Just two years ago the big story was that the pro-life view majority was growing. Sorry, folks. Public sentiment on such a subject doesn’t turn around on a dime like that.

ddrintn on January 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM

So you recommend adopting PETA’s playbook? How successful has that been for them?

segasagez on January 22, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Idiot. Adopting PETA’s playbook would mean being a complete and utter a-hole to everyone that opposed us, among other things.

Showing what abortion actually does to John Q. I-don’t-wanna-know is about the only thing left that MIGHT change their minds. Most abortion ‘supporters’ try not to think about what happens and have never seen even a procedure unless they’re a doctor or have personally had one.

MelonCollie on January 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM

segasagez on January 22, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Are you actually comparing the sanctity of human life to animals?

kingsjester on January 22, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Yeah. This whole resistance to grabbing the head of a baby with tongs and yanking them out of the womb is just sooo unreasonable./

kingsjester on January 22, 2013 at 9:59 AM

You demonstrate my point.

If I only supported abortions up to through first tri-mester, how does your comments address my belief? You would be demagoguing me and everyone who agreed with me.

segasagez on January 22, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Are you actually comparing the sanctity of human life to animals?

kingsjester on January 22, 2013 at 10:04 AM

No.

segasagez on January 22, 2013 at 10:05 AM

The abortion rate among blacks is five times that of whites and twice that of Hispanics. If that isn’t a recipe for genocide, I don’t know what is.

Happy Nomad on January 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM

Not when the Democrat welfare system pays for them to replace the baby-to-be they butchered with 3 more equally-unwanted children that ‘mommy’ just didn’t bother to abort.

That’s how they have to compensate, along with illegal immigration for hispanics, otherwise the Democrat minorities would’ve aborted themselves into near-extinction by now.

MelonCollie on January 22, 2013 at 10:05 AM

segasagez on January 22, 2013 at 10:04 AM

No. I would be fighting for the rights of the unborn.

kingsjester on January 22, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Idiot. Adopting PETA’s playbook would mean being a complete and utter a-hole to everyone that opposed us, among other things.

Showing what abortion actually does to John Q. I-don’t-wanna-know is about the only thing left that MIGHT change their minds. Most abortion ‘supporters’ try not to think about what happens and have never seen even a procedure unless they’re a doctor or have personally had one.

MelonCollie on January 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM

It’s a matter of perspective. Do you think KingJester is being a complete and utter a-hole? You and I might have difference perspectives on that.

People generally don’t like being criticized for their beliefs. It’s just that simple.

segasagez on January 22, 2013 at 10:06 AM

segasagez on January 22, 2013 at 10:06 AM

Being called an A-hole by the likes of you is a compliment.

kingsjester on January 22, 2013 at 10:07 AM

segasagez on January 22, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Are you actually comparing the sanctity of human life to animals?

kingsjester on January 22, 2013 at 10:04 AM

“Abortion is no worse than popping prairie dogs.”

-strange people

Bishop on January 22, 2013 at 10:07 AM

And we wonder why our nation is in this mess….when we remain silent on the holocaust in our midst?

PappyD61 on January 22, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Who’s remaining silent? The problem is that the pro-murder crowd agrees with the rat-eared wonder. They don’t want to be punished with the consequences of unprotected sex. The Obama brats would end up killing off a life inside them if inconvenient. And anybody who dares speak up on behalf of murdered children is branded some sort of religious zealot who has no right to “judge.”

And this is not necessarily an issue among the normal fault lines. People who think they are perfectly respectable conservatives will find common cause with those who advocate the murder of children.

Happy Nomad on January 22, 2013 at 10:08 AM

It is very disconcerting to have a headline thread moved down without bringing the comments from the headline thread. As well as having it going on in both places at the same time.

Excellent point.

bobs1196 on January 22, 2013 at 10:08 AM

It’s a matter of perspective. Do you think KingJester is being a complete and utter a-hole? You and I might have difference perspectives on that.

People generally don’t like being criticized for their beliefs. It’s just that simple.

segasagez on January 22, 2013 at 10:06 AM

So your gameplan is to not criticize the left’s hideous beliefs? What are you, a GOP senator?

I am not saying stand in front of clinics howling and waving gory signs. That doesn’t work too much. All I am saying is that we TRY to impress on the average abortion supporter what their pet ‘right’ actually involves.

MelonCollie on January 22, 2013 at 10:08 AM

So you recommend adopting PETA’s playbook? How successful has that been for them?

segasagez on January 22, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Does not work for PETA because people are meant to eat animals. Babies are not meant to be murdered.

astonerii on January 22, 2013 at 10:09 AM

So your gameplan is to not criticize the left’s hideous beliefs? What are you, a GOP senator?

ROFL

Bishop on January 22, 2013 at 10:09 AM

I had the privilege of wishing Dr Alveda King “Happy Birthday” today on FB. She is a tireless Pr-Life Advacate working with the Black Community.

kingsjester on January 22, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Does not work for PETA because people are meant to eat animals. Babies are not meant to be murdered.

astonerii on January 22, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Also, people didn’t make the animals.

MelonCollie on January 22, 2013 at 10:10 AM

They were also far more likely — 14 points more likely — than any other age group to say that government should do more than that government is doing too much. Imagine their surprise when they find out America can’t pay for the government it has right now.

A very hard rain is going to fall and those clueless boobs are going to wonder what happened.

You were told. You were warned.

In the meantime, please continue to abort yourselves. I would appreciate it if you would hurry up and hunt yourselves to extinction.

We’ll be waiting.

98ZJUSMC on January 22, 2013 at 10:12 AM

When you drill down into that data, you find that the number who want abortion legal in all cases — no exceptions, presumably not even for late term — is 31 percent, which is also a new high.

That might be the most chilling piece of data in the entire poll. Now in fairness, if you actually described partial birth abortion to the respondent when conducting the poll, you’d probably get far fewer folks voicing their approval. Then again. I’ve been giving the American electorate far too much credit lately, so who really knows?

Doughboy on January 22, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Happy 40th Birthday, Roe v Wade!

thuja on January 22, 2013 at 9:54 AM

Meet the 4 people who perform third trimester abortions. Yep, pregnancies at 6-9 months.

After Tiller: Meet the only four doctors in the U.S. who still perform third-trimester abortions

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2266067/After-Tiller-The-doctors-U-S-risk-lives-perform-trimester-abortions.html#ixzz2IiYBgAHj

Deanna on January 22, 2013 at 10:14 AM

I am not saying stand in front of clinics howling and waving gory signs. That doesn’t work too much. All I am saying is that we TRY to impress on the average abortion supporter what their pet ‘right’ actually involves.

MelonCollie on January 22, 2013 at 10:08 AM

It works to an extent but, face it, the left wrote the laws in such a way that such protests are far more restricted than what Westboro Baptist Church gets away with.

I prefer the approach, apparently to be abandoned in NY, where the abortion factories have to meet all the standards of a clinic and not a place where out-patient procedures are being performed. It doesn’t stop abortions but at least slows it down because of the higher cost and requirements to comply with standards.

Happy Nomad on January 22, 2013 at 10:16 AM

the lefties would burn down the entire nation and kill people in droves before letting that happen.

Bishop on January 22, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Good. Bring it.

98ZJUSMC on January 22, 2013 at 10:16 AM

What might stop the slaughter is when a kid asks if his or her mommy ever had an abortion and the mom says yes. What will the kid think–”Gee, I’m proud of you for being so enlightened,” or “Why didn’t you want my brother or sister? Gee, I’m lucky you didn’t kill me, too.” Then that kid grows up opposing the murder of innocents.

Liam on January 22, 2013 at 10:18 AM

So, the left wants to ban guns because of some tragic, yet rare, events where innocent people are killed, yet not ban abortion where over 50 million have been killed in their innocence? Seriously? Most guns never kill anyone, all abortions do.

Corinthian on January 22, 2013 at 10:18 AM

We’ll see how favorable it is a few years after NY allows abortionists who aren’t licensed medical doctors to perform the procedures. In the meantime, let the liberals cull their own herd if that’s what they want so badly.

Liam on January 22, 2013 at 9:45 AM

I can’t understand why Cuomo wants to do this. Especially after all the years of abortion cheerleaders claiming that making abortion illegal would lead to women getting abortions via coat hangers or from unlicensed “butchers”.

Bitter Clinger on January 22, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Most guns never kill anyone, all abortions do.

Corinthian on January 22, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Not all of them. That’s why the rat-eared wonder refused to vote against a measure before the Illinois Senate that required hospitals to provide no assistance when an aborted child managed to survive. Just wheel them into the janitor’s closet and let them die of neglect.

Happy Nomad on January 22, 2013 at 10:22 AM

In a country that reelected Obama and celebrates “Girls” nothing surprises me.

IR-MN on January 22, 2013 at 10:22 AM

Agenda driven polling.
PappyD61 on January 22, 2013 at 10:00 AM

It is. Just two years ago the big story was that the pro-life view majority was growing. Sorry, folks. Public sentiment on such a subject doesn’t turn around on a dime like that.
ddrintn on January 22, 2013 at 10:03

I believe if you check AP’s previous blogging on abortion polling numbers you’ll note it’s pretty much always been of a consistent cherry picking “It’s all over, give up. Not saying anything on AP’s views themselves – just sayin’ there’s a pattern on the reportage.

whatcat on January 22, 2013 at 10:23 AM

All the democrats have to do is continue to lie about any law they want to pass by saying the white raaacist republicans are against it and their ignorant drones will want it.

“Kindly fall neatly into pit” – Obama maxim. Cult of Obama Handbook for dummies.

workingclass artist on January 22, 2013 at 10:24 AM

It works to an extent but, face it, the left wrote the laws in such a way that such protests are far more restricted than what Westboro Baptist Church gets away with.

I prefer the approach, apparently to be abandoned in NY, where the abortion factories have to meet all the standards of a clinic and not a place where out-patient procedures are being performed. It doesn’t stop abortions but at least slows it down because of the higher cost and requirements to comply with standards.

Happy Nomad on January 22, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Anything we can legally do. Anything. I can’t in good conscience say we should stop protesting, but you are right, the liberal scum try very hard to suppress free speech when we use it to protest their most sacred ‘right’.

What might stop the slaughter is when a kid asks if his or her mommy ever had an abortion and the mom says yes.

Liam on January 22, 2013 at 10:18 AM

I read an article/autobiography written by a mother who in her less-responsible years had an abortion and was trying to tell the children she’d had after she married. Horrible. Just horrible.

MelonCollie on January 22, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Not all of them. That’s why the rat-eared wonder refused to vote against a measure before the Illinois Senate that required hospitals to provide no assistance when an aborted child managed to survive. Just wheel them into the janitor’s closet and let them die of neglect.

And sadly, this is more common than admitted. He also voted present regarding partial birth abortion as I recall. I also think he said this was all “above his pay grade”. We wonder why people shoot children, yet we do it every day.

Corinthian on January 22, 2013 at 10:27 AM

If you believe Pew, a majority of the 18-to-29 group that’s now steering the ship of state and that strongly opposes overturning Roe doesn’t know which issue Roe v. Wade actually dealt with.

Figures. Guess who mostly comprise ‘the low information voter’ group.

GarandFan on January 22, 2013 at 10:28 AM

How about passing a law requiring all obozo voters to abort all their pregnancies. We could wipe out liberalism in one generation. Everyone wins, right?

Flange on January 22, 2013 at 10:30 AM

I can’t understand why Cuomo wants to do this. Especially after all the years of abortion cheerleaders claiming that making abortion illegal would lead to women getting abortions via coat hangers or from unlicensed “butchers”.

Bitter Clinger on January 22, 2013 at 10:21 AM

He seems to have a fetish for being known for ‘sweeping new laws’ like with the gun ban just passed.

Or maybe it’s just the fact that liberalism is an ever-expanding madness that knows no bounds. Liberals never say, “We’ve gone far as we should with this.” There’s always more to be had or ‘improved’, there is always some new cause to take up or injustice to set right. If any liberal thinks Bloomberg is satisfied with banning 32oz soda cups, wait a few years. He might ban the 16oz sizes, or tell stores they can’t sell soda to minors or limit the number of family-size bottles allowed in a single purchase.

Wait till 12 year olds start coming home with punctured uteri and need surgery to stop the hemorrhaging after an abortion done by someone other than a doctor, and the kid didn’t tell her parents because the law says she doesn’t need parental consent any more.

Well, they reap what they sow. But liberals won’t believe that harvest exists.

Liam on January 22, 2013 at 10:31 AM

So you recommend adopting PETA’s playbook? How successful has that been for them?

segasagez on January 22, 2013 at 10:00 AM

If it is a choice; let’s make it an educated one. People need to know what an abortion actually is to make an educated choice.

melle1228 on January 22, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Most people today who need something are willing to sell their souls in order to get it. People are scared and are catering their ideas to quote unquote popular culture.

Like Powell, The Governor and Huntsman it is easier to denigrate to get results than to support your core beliefs.

We need it now basically. People get so bogged down in their own lives that they give up. They at least get something right?

tomas on January 22, 2013 at 10:32 AM

If you believe Pew, a majority of the 18-to-29 group that’s now steering the ship of state and that strongly opposes overturning Roe doesn’t know which issue Roe v. Wade actually dealt with.

Figures. Guess who mostly comprise ‘the low information voter’ group.

GarandFan on January 22, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Ayeah. You could pretty well reword that passage as:

“If you believe Pew, a majority of the lowest-information and least-responsible age group that’s now the pack of clowns steering the ship of state onto the rocks doesn’t know which issue Roe v. Wade actually dealt with, is too lazy to even Google it, and too stupid to care for more than five minutes.”

MelonCollie on January 22, 2013 at 10:33 AM

All of the same lefty media outlets spew the same biased bull sh– about every topic. The poll certainly won`t say the % of the same sample approves of murder to 6 month old fetuses will they?

HAGGS99 on January 22, 2013 at 10:33 AM

I am not morally opposed to abortion. Yeah I know, abortion is murder, but being a non-believer I am not morally opposed to murder, either. I am, however, deadly opposed to paying for someone else’s abortion – unless the person in question is on welfare, in which case I’d love to make it compulsory.

Archivarix on January 22, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Americans understand that “pro-life” really means compulsory childbirth. The rape victim will be compelled, by lack of access to legal abortion, to give birth to her rapist’s child. The incest victim will have no choice but to bear her own brother or sister.

As it has with gay rights, the tide is turning towards reproductive rights in this country. President Obama is the inspirational figure the current generation sees as a leader on these issues.

The rightists are rapidly becoming irrelevant. The nation will be a better place the faster that happens.

chumpThreads on January 22, 2013 at 10:35 AM

If there is such a mandate for unfettered abortion, HAVE CONGRESS PASS A LAW AND HAVE OBAMA SIGN IT…

That’s why this festering wound will never heal… SCOTUS 5-4…

Khun Joe on January 22, 2013 at 10:36 AM

I am not morally opposed to abortion. Yeah I know, abortion is murder, but being a non-believer I am not morally opposed to murder, either. I am, however, deadly opposed to paying for someone else’s abortion – unless the person in question is on welfare, in which case I’d love to make it compulsory.

Archivarix on January 22, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Wouldn’t make it “compulsory”, but I certainly wouldn’t discourage it either.

mazer9 on January 22, 2013 at 10:36 AM

I am, however, deadly opposed to paying for someone else’s abortion – unless the person in question is on welfare, in which case I’d love to make it compulsory.

Archivarix on January 22, 2013 at 10:34 AM

He who stands with me against this monstrosity, whatever the reason, shall be my brother.

Frankly I wouldn’t at all be surprised if your idea got some traction among liberals, and then we’d split the pro-abortion group.

MelonCollie on January 22, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Bill Bennett quoted this from someone, whom I can’t recall, on this morning’s show ….

HOW COME … When an excited new daddy calls to announce “It’s a boy !!” or “It’s a girl !!”,
NO ONE has to ask “A boy/girl WHAT ?”

pambi on January 22, 2013 at 10:37 AM

I don’t claim to be much of an original thinker, but here’s a somewhat different take on the whole ‘abortion rights’ debate that I’ve not heard come up among the usual arguments.

Suppose you and your wife or girlfriend make a mutual decision to have a baby. You’re able to conceive, you buy a home with room for the baby, you accompany her to all the pre-natal appointments, and basically restructure your life in expectation of becoming parents. You’ve laid your ear gently against her stomach and have felt the first vestiges of life stirring within. You are already head-over-heels in love with this little being and are joyfully awaiting her arrival. Then, out of nowhere, your partner takes a lover, and says she’s leaving you and having an abortion.

Everything you have done up to this point has been consensual. She could not have conceived without you, nor you without her. But now, despite this consensuality and all the actions and decisions you’ve made in concert with each other, she can unilaterally decide to have an abortion and you have absolutely no legal rights in the decision whatsoever.

Doesn’t seem quite right, does it?

CaptFlood on January 22, 2013 at 10:37 AM

As it has with gay rights, the tide is turning towards reproductive rights in this country. President Obama is the inspirational figure the current generation sees as a leader on these issues.

The rightists are rapidly becoming irrelevant. The nation will be a better place the faster that happens.

chumpThreads on January 22, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Put down the pipe, child.

kingsjester on January 22, 2013 at 10:37 AM

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