Plouffe: Yeah, Obama wants more of your money in the second term

posted at 8:01 am on January 21, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Everything old is new again, as Peter Allen once sang. Barack Obama takes a ceremonial oath of office today to start his second term, but it looks like his team is still singing from the first-term hymnal.  Senior political adviser David Plouffe appeared yesterday on ABC’s This Week to give a preview of the second term, and guess what?  The new Obama administration wants more taxes just like the old Obama administration:

White House senior adviser David Plouffe said on Sunday that despite Republican warnings that the tax debate is over, President Obama would not accept a budget deal without additional revenue.

“We are going to require some more revenues,” Plouffe told me on “This Week.” “John Boehner himself said he thought there was $800 billion in revenues from closing loopholes. We’ve dealt with the tax rate issue, now it’s about loopholes.”

“And I think the country would be well served by tax and entitlement reform because it would help the economy,” he added.

Plouffe said that Obama has met Republicans “more than halfway,” and that any deal needs to be “balanced.” Republicans, including Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, have said  that the revenue debate is “over” and that they would not negotiate with the White House for additional revenue in a budget deal.

“We need spending cuts and entitlement reform and revenue. Have to have that,” Plouffe said.

There are two problems with that approach.  First, the White House got the tax increases that they claimed would fix the deficit problem in January.  At that time, Obama and his allies in Congress ridiculed that very reform-oriented approach floated by Boehner repeatedly over the last two years.  They claimed it was a dodge to benefit the rich at the expense of the middle class.

Now they want Boehner to push it again as a revenue-enhancer, but Republicans aren’t going to bite on that without comprehensive tax reform for both individuals and corporations.  That means broadening the tax base while closing deductions and loopholes, which Republicans have proposed as a revenue-neutral approach that will boost economic growth and simplify tax collection and enforcement.  They’re not going to pass something that simply raises taxes on a small portion of the tax base without the comprehensive fixes, and this time they don’t have a sunset clause pushing them to avert disaster.

The second problem is that Americans want spending cuts in the second round, and not just the “I cut $1.4 trillion in spending increases so I can brag about signing cuts” kind of action, either.  That’s why the GOP would be smart to let the sequester hit and then come back and say (truthfully) that it’s still woefully insufficient to close the deficit and stop piling up national debt at a trillion dollars a year.

The entire segment is below:

Just the same old song.


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“We are going to require some more revenues,” Plouffe told me on

Straight from 1600 Dowtonabby to the peeps.

Limerick on January 21, 2013 at 8:09 AM

More spending money for the Vacationer-in-Chief?

Meh, good thing we have those republicans to stop all this crazy talk from the God/King.

No worries!

PappyD61 on January 21, 2013 at 8:12 AM

Plouffe: Yeah, Obama wants more of your money in the second term
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What David is really try`n to say is:

CBS News Political Director’s Astonishing Advice: Obama ‘Must Go for the Throat,’ ‘Pulverize’ & ‘Declare War’ on the GOP
Jan. 19, 2013 3:21pm
********************

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/19/cbs-news-directors-astonishing-advice-obama-must-go-for-the-throat-pulverize-declare-war-on-the-gop/

canopfor on January 21, 2013 at 8:16 AM

Rich people = anyone who creates jobs and anyone who has a job.

Philly on January 21, 2013 at 8:24 AM

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/19/cbs-news-directors-astonishing-advice-obama-must-go-for-the-throat-pulverize-declare-war-on-the-gop/

canopfor on January 21, 2013 at 8:16 AM

Obama’s only remaining option is to pulverize. Whether he succeeds in passing legislation or not, given his ambitions, his goal should be to delegitimize his opponents. Through a series of clarifying fights over controversial issues, he can force Republicans to either side with their coalition’s most extreme elements or cause a rift in the party that will leave it, at least temporarily, in disarray.

Like we need any help from them to be in disarray!

Night Owl on January 21, 2013 at 8:26 AM

The GOP should have several leaders who know something about tax policy and spending policy and also know how to talk about them. Then, those leaders need to monitor the tax revenues and spending patterns in the next year–either through the GOP or conservative think tanks–and be prepared to throw the results back in the faces of Dems as 2014 approaches.

Obama got his rate increases–on ordinary income and capital gains. And Obama also got his Obamacare taxes. Let’s start analyzing the effect on revenues and on other behavior as soon as data begin rolling in. Then, for crying out loud, explain the poor outcomes to the American people.

BuckeyeSam on January 21, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Traitorous tyrant.

I have a better idea.

Let’s repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments.

And NOT give them any other means to collect taxes.

Lets take our money back.

turfmann on January 21, 2013 at 8:30 AM

The U.S. Treasury has been printing money non-stop for at least six years and seems hell-bent to continue the practice.

Because of all this printing (Countrfeiting really, since it is not backed by increased work efficiencies or work volume), U.S. currency is now practically worthless. But its devaluation will not be apparent until it is drawn off the sidelines and into the play in the economy. In this current economic environment of uncertainty, no one will spend/invest any more than they currently are now.

So what are a cadre of irresponsible and corrupt rulers to do? Hmmmm….. Why not take the money from those who are saving it? This would meet these progressive goals:

Allow government to spend more money at its current value in the least efficient manner, thereby destroying the money’s “stored wealth”.

Funnel money to friends of the progressive cause so they can spend it at current value.

Weaken their conservative foes’ ability to exercise their wealth power as they choose.

Yep. It’s a great plan if you are a ProgGlobalist looking to destroy America’s currency, and in so doing, America itself.

These poeple are traitors. Remember who they are when it all goes bad and what’s left of your cash is best used as firestarter and toilet paper.

ROCnPhilly on January 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM

The Limousine Liberals will be howling like never before at closing the tax loopholes and reduction in tax deductions… These hypocrites demand higher taxes in public but they use every tax deduction and loophole under the sun to pay much less in taxes…

mnjg on January 21, 2013 at 8:38 AM

I agree. Let the sequester hit. Atleast lets begin to cut spending. No more sacred cows. Don’t know if the GOP will be brave enough to go for it.

tommy71 on January 21, 2013 at 8:39 AM

I know let’s try the 47% who pay no taxes. It’s time for their “fair share”.

Wore my GOP elephant today. Didn’t want anybody thinking I voted for that SOB today.

gophergirl on January 21, 2013 at 8:41 AM

So what? It’s been proven that higher taxes lead to stable and prosperous societies, just look at Greece.

Bishop on January 21, 2013 at 8:41 AM

Traitorous tyrant.

I have a better idea.

Let’s repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments.

And NOT give them any other means to collect taxes.

Lets take our money back.

turfmann on January 21, 2013 at 8:30 AM

You have to get the Feds to agree to pass it, you have to get 30 states to pass it, you’re more likely to get agreement that there needs to be a divorce.

harlekwin15 on January 21, 2013 at 8:44 AM

The Republicans should start attacking where it hurts: “We will consider increasing taxes when the President stops spending the tax revenue on his luxurious vacations.”

Archivarix on January 21, 2013 at 8:44 AM

Hey Plouffe, to quote the immortal Badfinger:

If you want it,

Here it is!

COME AND GET IT!

Make your mind up fast!

pilamaye on January 21, 2013 at 8:48 AM

The Republicans should start attacking where it hurts: “We will consider increasing taxes when the President stops spending the tax revenue on his luxurious vacations.”

Archivarix on January 21, 2013 at 8:44 AM

They should run an ad something like

7 million dollars – what would that buy the average American family. Then go from there.

gophergirl on January 21, 2013 at 8:49 AM

The President told the American people exactly what he would do if re-elected and he won. Better start getting used to it.
 
chumpThreads on December 29, 2012 at 9:56 AM

rogerb on January 21, 2013 at 8:53 AM

gophergirl on January 21, 2013 at 8:49 AM

No, no! Petty and racist! /sarc

tngmv on January 21, 2013 at 8:56 AM

According to our rat eared god-king it was never “your” money anyway.
Those obamaphones aren’t free you know.

wildcat72 on January 21, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Its all about spending our money to buy votes for them with the left. They will say anything to get us to keep bumping up the debt ceiling.Once its up they go on a spending spree irregardless of anything.
If we have the guts to give them only 60 or 90 days we can keep the debate alive and keep the fire lit under their collective asses.
That’s where the big debate will come,nowhere else.
The regime will never go for a small increase in the debt ceiling that lasts only 60-90 days. They will want a years worth of money several more trillion in debt plus whatever the country takes in as well.
Look for lots of yelling and screaming over how long,how much, dough Boehner is willing to sign on for and how quickly.
As far as cutting spending it’s not in their DNA.They need spending to buy votes with and tank the capitalist economy.

rodguy911 on January 21, 2013 at 8:58 AM

Traitorous tyrant.

I have a better idea.

Let’s repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments.

And NOT give them any other means to collect taxes.

Lets take our money back.

turfmann on January 21, 2013 at 8:30 AM

You have to get the Feds to agree to pass it, you have to get 30 states to pass it, you’re more likely to get agreement that there needs to be a divorce.

harlekwin15 on January 21, 2013 at 8:44 AM

Actually it takes 38 states, 75 percent must ratify.

Dasher on January 21, 2013 at 9:00 AM

The U.S. Treasury has been printing money non-stop for at least six years and seems hell-bent to continue the practice.

Because of all this printing (Countrfeiting really, since it is not backed by increased work efficiencies or work volume), U.S. currency is now practically worthless. But its devaluation will not be apparent until it is drawn off the sidelines and into the play in the economy. In this current economic environment of uncertainty, no one will spend/invest any more than they currently are now.

So what are a cadre of irresponsible and corrupt rulers to do? Hmmmm….. Why not take the money from those who are saving it? This would meet these progressive goals:

Allow government to spend more money at its current value in the least efficient manner, thereby destroying the money’s “stored wealth”.

Funnel money to friends of the progressive cause so they can spend it at current value.

Weaken their conservative foes’ ability to exercise their wealth power as they choose.

Yep. It’s a great plan if you are a ProgGlobalist looking to destroy America’s currency, and in so doing, America itself.

These poeple are traitors. Remember who they are when it all goes bad and what’s left of your cash is best used as firestarter and toilet paper.

ROCnPhilly on January 21, 2013 at 8:36 AM

Brilliant post.
Its the Soros way.

rodguy911 on January 21, 2013 at 9:01 AM

They should run an ad something like

7 million dollars – what would that buy the average American family. Then go from there.

gophergirl on January 21, 2013 at 8:49 AM

In a rational world, that would have worked. As it stands, those who voted for him would never dream of denying Dear Leader his little much-deserved vacations or they just don’t care.

ROCnPhilly on January 21, 2013 at 9:02 AM

This “balanced” approach talk is just public blather to appeal to the the naive. Harry Reid has already made clear there will be no entitlement reform because he does not believe there is a problem. The president has even backed away from the chained CPI slowing of the cost of living increases in them. The sequester while poorly aimed is probably all the GOP is going to get. The budget however, does give some possible room for discretionary spending cuts in less demagogueable areas.

The only way the GOP could conceivably give on the loopholes and credits is to get some lower corporate tax rate and the chained CPI on entitlements in return; but I doubt they will get even close to that. The Dems right now think they do not need to deal with anything until after they pick up seats in 2014. They are talking this way to make the GOP look bad as a strategy to retake the House. They are not trying to find some means of fiscal responsibility or real tax reform.

KW64 on January 21, 2013 at 9:02 AM

GALLUP: Obama’s 1st-Term Approval Rating Among Lowest of Post-WWII Presidents…

Only Carter, Ford Fared Worse…

Gallup: Obama Averages 49% Approval in First Term

http://www.gallup.com/poll/159965/obama-averages-approval-first-term.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=All%20Gallup%20Headlines

Beautiful.

Resist We Much on January 21, 2013 at 9:03 AM

I know let’s try the 47% who pay no taxes. It’s time for their “fair share”.

Yeah, this approach was a stunning success for Romney. Thank goodness rightists like you don’t have enough sense to learn from their mistakes. It will make Hillary 2016 so much easier!

Wore my GOP elephant today. Didn’t want anybody thinking I voted for that SOB today.

gophergirl on January 21, 2013 at 8:41 AM

Let us know if anyone notices.

chumpThreads on January 21, 2013 at 9:03 AM

You have to get the Feds to agree to pass it, you have to get 30 states to pass it, you’re more likely to get agreement that there needs to be a divorce.

harlekwin15 on January 21, 2013 at 8:44 AM

The feds have no role in an Article V convention. They are not required in order to amend the constitution.

gryphon202 on January 21, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Let us know if anyone notices.

chumpThreads on January 21, 2013 at 9:03 AM

At the end of the day and after a lot of chin wiping by you, GG will still be a respected poster here at HA and you will still be a chump.

VegasRick on January 21, 2013 at 9:12 AM

They need spending to buy votes with and tank the capitalist economy.

rodguy911 on January 21, 2013 at 8:58 AM

At this point, the economy cannot recover. The train has left the tracks. We currently travel the space between high trellis and rocky outcroppings below. And what are the “engineers” doing? Fighting over the throttle.

ROCnPhilly on January 21, 2013 at 9:12 AM

The President told the American people exactly what he would do if re-elected and he won. Better start getting used to it.

chumpThreads on December 29, 2012 at 9:56 AM

He’s not a King, chump. What he spoke of was his agenda. He, alone, can make his agenda a reality.

You’d better start getting used to gloriously gridlock.

Resist We Much on January 21, 2013 at 9:16 AM

But, chump, I sure hope that he beats his chest loudly about this accomplishment:

First Term: Americans ‘Not in Labor Force’ Increased 8,332,000…

Awesomely awesomeness.

Resist We Much on January 21, 2013 at 9:18 AM

The feds have no role in an Article V convention. They are not required in order to amend the constitution.

gryphon202 on January 21, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Oh you want to go all in Article V and you think THIS populace will let you get our bill of rights?

The “bill of rights” will have a lot of stuff that looks like Marx in it.

Good luck.

The American experiment is just about over.

Lockeian notions of ‘liberty” meaning “live and let live” and “free to succeed and fail on their own merits” are dying off.

Bing “Representative Fudge Ohio” and her pap on conservative economic thought.

The nation is doomed, the media can get a literal sack of sh*t elected, God knows they got a figurative one in twice.

harlekwin15 on January 21, 2013 at 9:19 AM

You’d better start getting used to gloriously gridlock.

Resist We Much on January 21, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Pffft. Who’s going to do the locking, the GOP?

MelonCollie on January 21, 2013 at 9:22 AM

I know let’s try the 47% who pay no taxes. It’s time for their “fair share”.
Yeah, this approach was a stunning success for Romney. Thank goodness rightists like you don’t have enough sense to learn from their mistakes. It will make Hillary 2016 so much easier!

chumpThreads on January 21, 2013 at 9:03 AM

Communist low IQ scum… We will run against the WELFARE STATE and make the WELFARE QUEEN such as the Obama phone woman the face, the heart, and the soul of the communist party known as the democrat party. Nothing will rile up the producers more than seeing their hard earned money going to the WELFARE QUEENS and the other parasites…

mnjg on January 21, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Pffft. Who’s going to do the locking, the GOP?

MelonCollie on January 21, 2013 at 9:22 AM

We’d better.

Resist We Much on January 21, 2013 at 9:24 AM

We’d better.

Resist We Much on January 21, 2013 at 9:24 AM

We’ll have to defy the trend of the last several decades.

If that’s all the hope we’ve got, well…so be it.

MelonCollie on January 21, 2013 at 9:25 AM

I think removing tax deductibility from union dues will be a good place to start there Pluffer.

can_con on January 21, 2013 at 9:25 AM

I know let’s try the 47% who pay no taxes. It’s time for their “fair share”.
 
gophergirl on January 21, 2013 at 8:41 AM

Yeah, this approach was a stunning success for Romney. Thank goodness rightists like you don’t have enough sense to learn from their mistakes. It will make Hillary 2016 so much easier!
 
chumpThreads on January 21, 2013 at 9:03 AM

 
The car-in-the-ditch comparison was popular with Obama for a while. It’s still valid here:
 

gophergirl- C’mon guys, we can get out of this ditch if everyone helps push.
 
chumpthreads- Screw you.

rogerb on January 21, 2013 at 9:27 AM

If that’s all the hope we’ve got, well…so be it.

MelonCollie on January 21, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Start massive protests like we did with Obamacare, but aim at the GOP.

What do we know about politicians?

They want to be reelected.

Resist We Much on January 21, 2013 at 9:28 AM

gophergirl- C’mon guys, we can get out of this ditch if everyone helps push.

chumpthreads- Screw you.

rogerb on January 21, 2013 at 9:27 AM

chumpThreads on January 21, 2013 at 9:35 AM

gophergirl- C’mon guys, we can get out of this ditch if everyone helps push.

chumpthreads- Screw you.

rogerb on January 21, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Hey, rogerb, if you’re going to distort my comment, at least try to do so with a modicum of honesty.

Based on comments like gophergirl’s, the GOP will screw itself in ’14 and ’16. That works for me!

chumpThreads on January 21, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Meanwhile Phil Mickelson will be making changes …

Dasher on January 21, 2013 at 8:38 AM

And the lefties/socialists/commies are trying to demonize him because he doesn’t want to have to hand over 62-63% of what he earns to Comrades Obama and Jerry Brown. He should be happy to be working for the government and content with what it decides to leave him with. After all, it’s still much more than what most other comrades have.

farsighted on January 21, 2013 at 9:39 AM

I know let’s try the 47% who pay no taxes. It’s time for their “fair share”.

gophergirl on January 21, 2013 at 8:41 AM

Yeah, this approach was a stunning success for Romney. Thank goodness rightists like you don’t have enough sense to learn from their mistakes. It will make Hillary 2016 so much easier!

chumpThreads on January 21, 2013 at 9:03 AM

 
gophergirl- C’mon guys, we can get out of this ditch if everyone helps push.
 
chumpthreads- Screw you.
 
rogerb on January 21, 2013 at 9:27 AM

 
Hey, rogerb, if you’re going to distort my comment, at least try to do so with a modicum of honesty.
 
Based on comments like gophergirl’s, the GOP will screw itself in ’14 and ’16. That works for me!
 
chumpThreads on January 21, 2013 at 9:38 AM

 
You don’t even understand what you’d read and written.
 
Obama ’13!

rogerb on January 21, 2013 at 9:48 AM

Can’t wait for the speechifying today. I’m sure he’ll spend some time on what a great job he’s done and how he’s gonna do so much more for to us in the next 4.

Kissmygrits on January 21, 2013 at 9:53 AM

“We need spending cuts and entitlement reform and revenue. Have to have that,” Plouffe said

…and of course…he has it backward!…and will NEVER get to the third part…wanting to claim “we did two out of three!”

KOOLAID2 on January 21, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Hey, rogerb, if you’re going to distort my comment, at least try to do so with a modicum of honesty.

chumpThreads on January 21, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Since when is honesty important to you, or those like you?

Night Owl on January 21, 2013 at 10:00 AM

No real surprise to anyone that doesn’t have their head buried up their anal orifice. Gotta keep that 47% happy.

GarandFan on January 21, 2013 at 10:02 AM

Yeah, this approach was a stunning success for Romney. Thank goodness rightists like you don’t have enough sense to learn from their mistakes. It will make Hillary 2016 so much easier!

chumpThreads on January 21, 2013 at 9:03 AM

This is the dirty little secret to liberals who actually know anything. Taxes on those 48% will “have” to skyrocket and they’ll also need to be hit with a VAT in order to make the entitlement super state even approach sustainability. Most nations in Europe revered by the left do it and that’s the path they know we’ll have to head down. Unfortunately for liberals Americans have a different sentiment towards taxation than Europeans. Europeans know that massive government requires massive taxation on all segments of society but many Americans have been convinced by Democrat lies that they won’t have to pay for the expensive government they have. The Democrats have lied for years that the rich could make us solvent but they can’t. Obama has hoped that by increasing spending to never before seen levels the people would get addicted enough to big government to go along with the requisite taxation to pay for it. We’ll see.

gwelf on January 21, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Debt on 01.20.01: $5,727,776,738,304.64

Debt on 01.19.09: $10,628,881,485,510.23

An increase of: $4,901,104,747,205.59

Debt 01.21.13: $ 16,432,631,489,854.70

Debt 01.20.09: $10,626,877,048,913.08

An increase of: $5,805,754,440,941.62

Bush was in office for 2,921 days and he deficit spent per day: $1,677,885,911.40.

Obama has been in office for 1,463 days (through 01.21.13) and deficit spends per day: $3,968,389,911.79

Public debt on 01.20.09: $6,307,310,739,681.66

Public debt on 01.21.13: $11,573,578,115,566.81

Obama has increased the debt held by the public by $5,266,267,375,885.15 or 83.49% – EIGHTY-THREE & 40/100 in 1,463 days.

According to Obama’s own White House figures: Eliminating the Bush tax rates on the top 2% is estimated to bring in an annual $80 billion, ceterus paribus. Ending the Bush tax rates on the top 2% will pay for approximately 7.69 days of Federal government spending. Guess who is really going to wind up paying for all of the “free stuff”? YOU. Why? Because the middle class is where the money is. The Federal government is today’s version of Willie Sutton. They rob the middle class because that’s where the money is.

Every man, woman and child’s share of the national debt is now $52,838.04. – that’s a 76.13% — SEVENTY-SIX POINT THIRTEEN PERCENT — INCREASE since Barack Obama’s Imaculation 1,463 days ago.

Total Debt = $16,432,631,489,854.70 and GDP = $15,601.5 trillion

Debt-to-GDP = 105.35%

Remember when Obama said this?

“The problem is that the way Obama has done it in the last 1,437 days is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $10,628,881,485,510.23 from the first 43 presidents.

No. 44 added $5,805,754,440,941.62 by his lonesome. So we now have over $16,432,631,489,854.70 of debt that we are going to have to pay back. $52,838.04 for every man, woman, and child.

If President Obama called President George W Bush irresponsible and unpatriotic for presiding over a $4,901,104,747,205.59 increase in the national debt over 8 years, then what does he think we should call him for spending $5,805,754,440,941.62 In 4 years?

Irresponsible and unpatriotic’ sound too mild in comparison; perhaps, “treasonous” might be a more apt description of Mr Obama’s spending.”

- Resist We Much, 21 January 2013

Resist We Much on January 21, 2013 at 10:11 AM

Plouffe said that Obama has met Republicans “more than halfway,” and that any deal needs to be “balanced.”

In other words, Obama says he’s not ready to throw all the Republicans in gulags – YET.

TarheelBen on January 21, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Plouffe said that Obama has met Republicans “more than halfway,” and that any deal needs to be “balanced.”

Challenge accepted. What spending reduction was in the previous deal?

The Schaef on January 21, 2013 at 10:26 AM

I really don’t like the use of “revenue” as it is applied to taxation. Revenue is the money generated by free and voluntary exchange of money for goods or services.

Taxation is not revenue. It is stealing.

kurtzz3 on January 21, 2013 at 10:47 AM

White House senior adviser David Plouffe said on Sunday that despite Republican warnings that the tax debate is over, President Obama would not accept a budget deal without additional revenue efforts to bankrupt the country.

“We are going to require some more revenues,” Plouffe told me on “This Week.”

‘Require’ being the operative word here.

“And I think the country would be well served by tax and entitlement reform because it would help the economy,” he added.

But don’t think for a second that we are going to do it.

Plouffe said that Obama has met Republicans “more than halfway,” and that any deal needs to be “balanced.”

Translation – Bend over more than halfway and keep your balance, this is going to hurt.

“We need spending cuts and entitlement reform and revenue. Have to have that,” Plouffe said.

Well the revenue part, anyway. Just kidding about the other stuff.

FIFH

ghostwalker1 on January 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Boehner/Rubio: In the name of compromise, and to show that both sides can work together, let us pass amnesty, President Obama, and we’ll raise taxes for you.

/sarc

xblade on January 21, 2013 at 11:37 AM

canopfor on January 21, 2013 at 8:16 AM

Obama’s only remaining option is to pulverize. Whether he succeeds in passing legislation or not, given his ambitions, his goal should be to delegitimize his opponents. Through a series of clarifying fights over controversial issues, he can force Republicans to either side with their coalition’s most extreme elements or cause a rift in the party that will leave it, at least temporarily, in disarray.

Like we need any help from them to be in disarray!

Night Owl on January 21, 2013 at 8:26 AM

Night Owl:Sorry for the late response,yup:)

canopfor on January 21, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Republicans aren’t going to bite on that without comprehensive tax reform for both individuals and corporations

Yes they will. Boehner will fold like a cheap suit. The Republican’s wailed about the first Sandy bill and all the portk in it. So they broke it up into two pieces and passed it anyway. They might as well vote for everything Obama wants, stop the facade they are bucking up against Obama’s agenda and let’s get this country over the cliff already.

TulsAmerican on January 21, 2013 at 12:36 PM

They’re not going to pass something that simply raises taxes on a small portion of the tax base without the comprehensive fixes, and this time they don’t have a sunset clause pushing them to avert disaster.

Wanna bet? When is the last time in the last 4 years that the GOP ever got a good deal for the American people? The GOP caves on everything.

We got into the fiscal cliff mess because the GOP caved.

We supposedly got out of the fiscal cliff mess because the GOP caved.

The Hurricane Sandy Pork bill was passed because the GOP caved.

The rapid wonton spending going on for the last four years is because the GOP does nothing effective that stops it.

We elect people who say one thing but they all end up with group think and continue on as before. It’s a total joke. There is NO ONE in the GOP that will actually stand up and fight fire with fire.

We be cooked American. Stick a fork in America, its done.

katablog.com on January 21, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Q: When you’re asked about Stricker’s semi-retirement, with the political situation the last couple months … what did you mean by that? Do you find it an unsettling time in a way?

Phil Mickelson:

Well, it’s been an interesting offseason. And I’m going to have to make some drastic changes. I’m not going to jump the gun and do it right away, but I will be making some drastic changes.

Q: Meaning leaving from California?

Mickelson:

I’m not sure.

Q: Moving to Canada?

Mickelson:

I’m not sure what exactly, you know, I’m going to do yet. I’ll probably talk about it more in depth next week. I’m not going to jump the gun, but there are going to be some. There are going to be some drastic changes for me because I happen to be in that zone that has been targeted both federally and by the state and, you know, it doesn’t work for me right now. So I’m going to have to make some changes.

J_Crater on January 21, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Yes. Tax the rich and get used to watching European and South American sports.

J_Crater on January 21, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Fluke you, maggot.

Schadenfreude on January 21, 2013 at 1:13 PM