Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on January 20, 2013 by Allahpundit

Immigration, [Condoleezza] Rice added, was the “big issue.”

“Frankly, we sent some pretty bad signals around immigration. George W. Bush, John McCain, Jon Kyl, and Ted Kennedy had an immigration bill in 2007 and it failed. And I felt at that moment that that was the real missed opportunity. We’ve got to get comprehensive immigration reform back on the agenda.”

Praising Republicans, like Marco Rubio, who have been speaking out about immigration, Rice also made it clear that she felt certain components of the GOP platform, such as fiscal values, defense, federalism, and individual responsibility, were “widely popular among the American people.”

“But if you send messages that there are whole segments of the population that are not welcome, not only is it bad politics, but it’s bad policy because without immigration, robust immigration, we have the same sclerotic demographics of Japan and Europe,” Rice remarked. “The Republican party has both a political and a policy problem.”

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Proponents of comprehensive immigration reform, who mainly reside on the left, are surprised that Rubio, a Republican from Florida, has generated so much positive buzz from conservatives…

“He’s doing an awesome job of bringing along conservatives and bringing along conservatives in the media,” said Frank Sharry, the founder of America’s Voice, which advocates for comprehensive reform. “He’s making enormous progress in making reform palatable to people on the right in a way that no one has before.”…

Critics of proposals granting legal status to illegal immigrants say Rubio’s blueprint is unacceptable, based on what they know. So far Rubio has only sketched out his vision in interviews and has yet to introduce legislation.

“We have some major issues with what it looks like he’s doing in some areas. This is not something we would endorse,” said Rosemary Jenks, director of government affairs at NumbersUSA, a group that opposed past efforts to pass comprehensive immigration reform.

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“The party is hungry for a leader who can unite us. The party and the country is hungry for that,” said Republican strategist Henry Barbour, who is co-chairing a review of the national party’s 2012 campaign and coming up with a blueprint for future elections. “Addition not subtraction wins elections. I’m focused on 2013 and 2014, but the more Rubio shows he can unite our party, the more interesting he will be to people thinking about 2016.”…

“Mending course on immigration is a requirement for Republicans to be able to successfully engage Latino voters,” said Clarissa Martinez-De-Castro, director of immigration and national campaigns at the National Council of La Raza, a leading Hispanic advocacy group. “If they stay on the path they are on, they are on their way to political irrelevance.”…

“He has the potential to be a force for building the space in which Republicans are meaningfully considering resolutions to this problem,” said Martinez-De-Castro. “The expectations are high for his leadership on this.”

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Mr. Rubio laid out three [principles]: aside from fair treatment for foreigners who play by the rules, he said, any legislation should also recognize that legal immigration has been a boon to the United States in the past and is “critical to our future.” He would also insist on new measures to ensure strict enforcement at the border and within the country…

Mr. Rubio said he would seek to reorient the visa system to bring in more educated immigrants with skills in technology and science. As for the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the country, Mr. Rubio said, “We have to understand these folks are here to stay.” He added that most of them had not committed serious or violent crimes.

“The right way to deal with them is not amnesty,” Mr. Rubio said, “and it is not a special pathway to citizenship.” Instead, he said, he would offer a provisional legal status to immigrants who passed criminal background checks, paid fines and passed English and civics tests.

But, he said, “ultimately it’s not good for our country to have people permanently trapped in that status where they can’t become citizens.” After a certain period, he said, immigrants would be allowed to apply through the existing system to become legal permanent residents, a status that would eventually allow them to become citizens.

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Immigration reform legislation must include a pathway to citizenship for the nation’s illegal immigrants, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said Thursday…

“There will be nothing done in my Senate [on immigration reform] without a pathway to citizenship,” Reid said in an interview with the Las Vegas Sun…

“We have spent a huge amount of money on border security, and both our northern and southern borders are more secure,” Reid said. “Frankly, Mexico is doing much better economically, and that has helped the issue a lot. We can’t build a fence of 3,000 miles because no matter how high we build it, they can build a ladder taller than that fence. So I think we have about expended our energy on border security.”

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He acknowledged that major pieces of his plan remain to be worked out. According to current federal visa rosters, most Mexican-born immigrants applying to become permanent residents now face a wait of at least 17 years to receive their document — known as a green card — even if they followed the rules and were approved. Mr. Rubio’s proposal could add seven million more Mexican immigrants to those backlogs. The path to citizenship he proposes for illegal immigrants could be several decades long.

“I don’t have a solution for that question right now,” Mr. Rubio said. He said he would seek to relieve backlogs by speeding up green cards for immigrants already in the legal line, not by creating special pathways for illegal immigrants.

Mr. Rubio’s principles did not sound very different from outlines for an overhaul that President Obama has offered. And the senator, whose star is rising rapidly in his party, chose not to hammer on his differences with the White House.

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Unfortunately, the few specifics Rubio has named are almost identical to the failed amnesty plans of Presidents Bush and Obama. Don’t take my word for it — just ask Miami Herald political reporter Marc Caputo, or pro-amnesty Mother Jones reporter Adam Serwer, or anti-amnesty Center for Immigration Studies chief Mark Krikorian. All of them have compared the Obama and Rubio immigration plans, and all of them have concluded the two plans are almost identical

Both Obama and Rubio swear up and down that their “path to citizenship,” as they call it, is not amnesty because those here illegally today would have to jump through a series of hoops before they obtained legal status. Both Obama and Rubio would require illegal immigrants to: prove they were in the United States for a lengthy period of time, undergo a background check, pay a fine, pay back taxes and prove they have learned English.

But even these minimal requirements would obviously never be enforced. Just imagine if a grandmother came forward, passed a background check, paid her taxes and fines but failed her English test. Would Rubio deport her? Of course not. As Rubio admitted above, no one is going to vote for you if you threaten to deport their grandmother.

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“If the president really wants to make a difference,” Santorum said on This Week, “he’ll lead with immigration. because there’s not a single Republican up on Capitol Hill who believes he wants to get it done. They all believe … he will put a measure that the Republicans can’t accept and blame Republicans and then continue to drive a wedge between Republicans and Hispanics and if he changes that and if he changes that and he says, ‘No, I’m willing to actually work together and get something that we can all agree on,’ he will change the tone on Capitol Hill.”

Santorum also stressed that Republicans were ready to act on immigration.

“I think the Republicans are ready to do something on immigration,” he said. “You saw Marco Rubio’s plan which is pretty far down the road. It looks a lot like what President Bush put forward four years ago.”

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So, in considering what can now accurately be referred to as the Obama-Rubio-Ryan amnesty plan of 2013, there’s one central question that Rubio and Ryan need to be asked: Do they trust President Obama to enforce the immigration laws in the future, after today’s illegals have been legalized?…

And if the answer is “no,” i.e., that Rubio and Ryan don’t trust Obama to enforce whatever deal they manage to push through Congress, then why won’t we just end up with another 11 million illegal aliens a few years down the road?

This isn’t some nit I’m picking — it’s central to the whole concept of “comprehensive immigration reform.” If you trust Obama to do the right thing, then, by all means, endorse his plan for amnesty, as Rubio and Ryan have done. But if you don’t trust him to keep his word, if you think all his statements come with an expiration date, then there’s no honest way you can back his approach.

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We saw how the MSM handled Romney’s treatment of Benghazi

J_Crater on May 22, 2013 at 7:24 PM

“…with Precious’s sweet ass on the line…”

cynccook on May 22, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Wouldn’t matter..
Obama was scheduled to know about the IRS candelas 8 months from then..

Electrongod on May 22, 2013 at 7:25 PM

I honestly wasn’t aware of this mess until this year. Don’t recall much being reported on Hotair let alone in the MSM.

jawkneemusic on May 22, 2013 at 7:26 PM

“Everybody knew about this investigation long before the election.”

Stop that slander of Dear Reaper, I mean Dear Leader. Dear Leader didn’t know. In fact, he didn’t even find out until he heard about it on TV next Friday.

VorDaj on May 22, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Whew. For a moment I thought it said Karen Finley. It’s doesn’, so I guess that means the video’s safe to watch.

Oh, wait, it’s MSNBC…

CJ on May 22, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Am I the only person who’s never heard the phrase “lead-pipe cinch” before?

cynccook on May 22, 2013 at 7:28 PM

So everyone but Obama knew of the investigation right?

geojed on May 22, 2013 at 7:28 PM

I honestly wasn’t aware of this mess until this year. Don’t recall much being reported on Hotair let alone in the MSM.

jawkneemusic on May 22, 2013 at 7:26 PM

It was during that Fluck/whore thing last year..

Electrongod on May 22, 2013 at 7:29 PM

It was during that Fluck/whore thing last year..

Electrongod on May 22, 2013 at 7:29 PM

Slut…that is..

Electrongod on May 22, 2013 at 7:30 PM

May 22, National Random Act of Journalism Day.

hillsoftx on May 22, 2013 at 7:30 PM

What??? Blame Romney?

jake49 on May 22, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Preposterous on so many levels.

Curtiss on May 22, 2013 at 7:33 PM

Because Romney could barely raise his pulse enough to go after Obama on Benghazi.

portlandon on May 22, 2013 at 7:33 PM

Alex Wagner’s show.

Of Course. The defacto hotbed for progspiracies.

Hey! The Charlie Cook article is already working it’s magic!

Good job, Charlie!

Defense! Defense!

budfox on May 22, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Wait a second. isn’t it Bush’s fault? His crystal ball was blurry before Romney’s so says San Fran Nan.

Slainte on May 22, 2013 at 7:34 PM

The Left is desperate. Not only are they trying to blame Romney for the scandal going far as it did (like the LSM would have listened and not called him a liar), the NYT blames Rush for the media not covering any news of what was going on. The reason: Rush’s comment about Fluke was so huge that every reporter in the media was covering it. That’s right — if Rush didn’t call her what he did, every reporter would have been freed up to uncover what was going on at the IRS.

Right…

I love the smell of liberal fear in the evening as well as in the morning.

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Am I the only person who’s never heard the phrase “lead-pipe cinch” before?

cynccook on May 22, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Sorry, can’t help you out. I have heard of it before. Not sure now, however, what in the world it was ever created or what it means.

UnderstandingisPower on May 22, 2013 at 7:36 PM

Low Information Pundit

“The ‘D’OH!!!‘ is strong in this one.”

PolAgnostic on May 22, 2013 at 7:36 PM

I bet Crowley would have jumped up and had papers to PROVE… PROVE that Obama… oh… they would have come up with something.

UnderstandingisPower on May 22, 2013 at 7:37 PM

if Issa or Romney had taken Finney’s advice here and accused Obama and the IRS last year of targeting tea partiers without any hard proof, they would have been capital-D Destroyed by the media for it.

Correct.

kunegetikos on May 22, 2013 at 7:37 PM

“Everybody knew about this investigation long before the election.”

Why didn’t you report it then?

davidk on May 22, 2013 at 7:37 PM

“Everybody knew about this investigation long before the election.”

Why didn’t you report it then?

davidk on May 22, 2013 at 7:37 PM

BOOM!

kim roy on May 22, 2013 at 7:39 PM

with Precious’s sweet ass on the line?

Allah, your snark gets better every day.

JusDreamin on May 22, 2013 at 7:39 PM

Right…

I love the smell of liberal fear in the evening as well as in the morning.

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 7:34 PM

I nominate Rush for the Nobel Peace Prize..
Why not..

Hold on…
HA is taking over my horizontal…
My vertical too..
Oh..

It’s a pop-up about gun control..

Electrongod on May 22, 2013 at 7:39 PM

Now a judge is apologizing for keeping James Rosen’s case under seal for 18 months…a review is being called for. LOL

d1carter on May 22, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Steer clear of royal welcomes, avoid a big toodoo A king who would slaughter the innocents will not cut a deal for you. But Herods always out there, hes got our card on file. Its a lead pipe cinch, if you give an inch then Harod likes to take a mile…Home by another way-James Taylor Does anyone believe that this is in ANY way Romneys fault? MSNBC just lost half its audience…all 12 of them

neyney on May 22, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Everyone and their dog knew about this long before the election…save Obama who just found out last week when he turned on the nightly news.

Kataklysmic on May 22, 2013 at 7:41 PM

She’s referring to the fact that Issa and his committee knew last year that the IG was investigating tea-party complaints, even though (a) they couldn’t know for sure at the time what the results of the investigation would be and the IG took care to make sure they didn’t find out before November,

Not to mention that Congresscritters are given heads up on secret stuff with the proviso that they don’t reveal it. At least publicly.

rbj on May 22, 2013 at 7:41 PM

He probably didn’t want his family harmed by Ogabe’s IRS— SS.

viking01 on May 22, 2013 at 7:42 PM

“Asked why he visited WH 118 times, Former IRS Commish Doug Shulman, cited the Easter Egg Roll as one reason.”

J_Crater on May 22, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Right.

It’s not like MSNBC is the media ar anything.

dthorny on May 22, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Cruz! You da man! “The senior senator of Arizona urged senators to trust House Republicans … and frankly, I don’t trust Republicans,” Cruz said. “It’s the leaders of both parties that got us in this mess. … A lot of Republicans were complicit in this spending spree

.”

http://thehill.com/video/senate/301329-cruz-i-dont-trust-republicans

davidk on May 22, 2013 at 7:45 PM

Well. You get the idea.

davidk on May 22, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Electrongod on May 22, 2013 at 7:39 PM

*clink*..:)

PS..I’m with you..:)

Dire Straits on May 22, 2013 at 7:48 PM

So Whorehouse Harry Reid can make a proclamation ( Talk out of his @$$) that Mitt paid no taxes for 20 years and it is perfectly OK according to the Drive By’s but if the Republicans brought this out before this before the election without proof they would have been laughed off by those same Drive By’s. So much BULL$h!T

hamradio on May 22, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Oh, good Lord…

ladyingray on May 22, 2013 at 7:49 PM

What’s on deck next for these LSM fools — The devil made the IRS do it? A case of demon-possession? Or maybe everyone in the media suddenly got religion and went holy rollin’ instead of doing their jobs?

Then again, they did their jobs — covering Obama’s azz.

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Dire Straits on May 22, 2013 at 7:48 PM

*clink*

What an interesting week or so..

So much corruption being exposed..

And we have Obama pulling a Hans Solo..

“it’s not my fault….it’s not my fault”

Electrongod on May 22, 2013 at 7:51 PM

No wonder Scandalmania’s destroying their ratings.

Please AP. don’t make me laugh. MSNBC never had ratings to be destroyed.

Gracelynn on May 22, 2013 at 7:51 PM

Then again, they did their jobs — covering Obama’s azz.

Liam on May 22, 2013 at 7:50 PM

They not only covered his @$$ but kissed it so much that they became ChapStick addicts

hamradio on May 22, 2013 at 7:52 PM

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/lead-pipe-cinch.html

davidk on May 22, 2013 at 7:39 PM

Beat me to it, by a

copper riveted, lead pipe, copyrighted, air tight cinch.

AesopFan on May 22, 2013 at 7:53 PM

hamradio on May 22, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Noticed your handle..

Are you a ham operator?

Electrongod on May 22, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Fawning media leads Obama into illusions of invincibility.

From the City Journal.

esr1951 on May 22, 2013 at 7:56 PM

First of all… The targeting of TeaParty & other non RINO conservative groups started in 2010….

So it benefited not just Obama in 2012… But it benefited Romney nomination too….

Why didn’t Romney complain more or at all about the reports of CONSERVATIVE groups being targeted and sidelined by the IRS… Because it helped him as much as it help Obama later on…

Y314K on May 22, 2013 at 7:58 PM

“Everybody knew about this investigation long before the election.”

If only there were some way that everyday Americans could get information about important happenings in the country. I dunno say by television broadcast or maybe radio or even if there were such things as news items on papers that could be delivered door to door or something. We could have knowledgeable people report on what is happening everywhere.

Too bad Romney didn’t invent those things. Then the President of the United States and his loyal subjects wouldn’t have to wait around in the dark and wonder what important things were going on around them.

Lily on May 22, 2013 at 7:59 PM

While the IRS investigation was concluded about a year ago, the results were not presented to Congress until a few weeks ago.

bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Because Romney could barely raise his pulse enough to go after Obama on Benghazi.

portlandon on May 22, 2013 at 7:33 PM

Good grief, you’re such a dishonest anti-Mormon bigot. Romney went after Obama right away and the media ferociously closed ranks around Obama and attacked Romney for politicizing “a tragedy”. The story had no traction despite Romney’s efforts. The issue should have helped him but the majority wasn’t interested in pinning responsibility on Obama and Clinton, whose approval ratings were in the mid 60′s after the attack.

Basilsbest on May 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Am I the only person who’s never heard the phrase “lead-pipe cinch” before?

cynccook on May 22, 2013 at 7:28 PM

I’ve heard of it. Maybe it depends on where or when you were born.

INC on May 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM

WI Gov. Walker Heads to Iowa

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker is gearing up for re-election next year, his third race in four years. But the Republican’s courting of out-of-state donors and conservatives, his plans to visit Iowa this week and his refusal to say whether he would serve out another full term if elected suggest he might be seeking a much bigger prize _ the presidency….

Maybe we’ll see some real hope and some good changes.

INC on May 22, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Maybe we’ll see some real hope and some good changes.

INC on May 22, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Dream ticket… Walker/Cruz 2016

Y314K on May 22, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Maybe Romney would have looked into it if you would have delivered the info in a Binder.

Karen, thy name is Grasping.

can_con on May 22, 2013 at 8:18 PM

Everybody knew about this investigation long before the election.”

If only there were some way that everyday Americans could get information about important happenings in the country. I dunno say by television broadcast or maybe radio or even if there were such things as news items on papers that could be delivered door to door or something. We could have knowledgeable people report on what is happening everywhere.

Lily on May 22, 2013 at 7:59 PM

Indeed. For the umpteenth time the media wonders how the American public doesn’t ‘know’ about an investigation, or whatever.
Geez Karen. Look in the mirror. It’s called reporting.

egmont on May 22, 2013 at 8:25 PM

MSNBC contributor wonders: Why didn’t Romney make a bigger deal about the IRS scandal last year?

Uh, because you guys wouldn’t have aired it.

Dream ticket… Walker/Cruz 2016

Y314K on May 22, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Yeah, sure.

Wait until Cruz gets hammered by the Lefties over his Natural Born status…he won’t get the same pass Obumbles did.

As for Walker and his particular version of Hope and Change:

Unfortunately, the U.S. Chamber, in a report released at the event, didn’t share Walker’s enthusiasm.

Its annual scorecard on state economies ranked Wisconsin 44th for overall economic performance and 50th — as in dead last — for short-term job growth as measured between September 2010 and November 2012. It also has Wisconsin 39th in “business climate” — on par with the state’s ranking under Gov. Jim Doyle.

And


Energy sales to the Milwaukee-based public utility company’s large commercial and industrial customers declined by about 3.9 percent in the first quarter compared with the first quarter of 2012. The main drivers were lower energy sales to the company’s largest customer category — iron ore mines in Michigan’s upper peninsula — and the impact of leap year in 2012, Klappa said.

Leap year? Really? Surprised Obama’s handlers didn’t think that one up to cover their own a$$es on sorry economic reports last year.

Dr. ZhivBlago on May 22, 2013 at 8:35 PM

Why make MSNBC out to be more “important” than what they deserve?

If rightwing pundits stop watching MSNBC to pick on them, the viewership will drop to 1/3rd of the current number.

Sir Napsalot on May 22, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Re/ MSNBC’s ratings collapse:

The scandals might be coincidental to them hiring the nerd at 7pm Chris Hayes who has disastrous ratings versus O’Reilly and from what I read is bringing down Rachel Maddow’s and Crazy Larry’s from what they had when Sgt. Shultz had that time slot.

Marcus on May 22, 2013 at 8:47 PM

Headline answer
No one has the balls.
Time somebody had a talk with a Paul, a Cruz, a Perry, and said, what are you waiting for?
Time somebody stood up.

seesalrun2 on May 22, 2013 at 8:58 PM

This is completely insane.

This woman should be heavily medicated and in an institution that isolates society from the consequences of her behavior/

Yet – her opium-tinged, fever-dream maundering is accepted as “normal” conversation.

williamg on May 22, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Is she suggesting that the Republicans deliberately chose not to politicize this issue during the 2012 campaign?

NorthernCross on May 22, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Romney has class – he wanted to make it about what he could do FOR the country instead of what Obama was doing TO the country.

easyt65 on May 22, 2013 at 9:18 PM

The MSM have essentially been street whores for The Chosen One. MSNBC is an actual whorehouse.

GarandFan on May 22, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Basilsbest on May 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Romney didn’t go after Obama. He kept his mittens on and wouldn’t take his gloves off. No sarcasm.

Oh and I hate Romney because he is a Mormon. /sarc

SparkPlug on May 22, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Huh?

pat on May 22, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Karen & Pals…..bwahahahahahaha..

allow me to interrupt, to bring you a more intelligent analysis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_73NU6OlNuw

roflmmfao

donabernathy on May 22, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Dear MSNBC,

This is the type of shlock reporting you get when your talking heads are limited to reading headlines and can’t read type font smaller than 14 point.

The devil’s in the details, always has been, always will be.

Unless, of course, all you want to do is pander to the baser instincts of humanity . . .

EB

EdmundBurke247 on May 22, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Dear Ms. Finney,

Please go stand in front of a mirror and ask your question(s) again using only the first person and pronouns. Proper names not allowed.

HINT-It looks something like “I want to know why I didn’t make more of a deal about the IRS scandals since I knew . . .?

Only AFTER you have publicly answered that question can you even start to consider yourself a journalist.

Thanks,
EB

EdmundBurke247 on May 22, 2013 at 10:53 PM

I think this may have been a freudian slip. What she was really saying is hey whats the big deal we in the MSM have known about this stuff (but didnt report it ) for years.

neyney on May 23, 2013 at 12:07 AM

“Lying to get us into a war…” LIE! “outed Valerie Plame…” LIE. Yet the remainig Kool Aid slurping, MSNBC Kool Aid delusionistas will just look away. Let’s just get this over with…it was Bush’s fault. Time to Move On.

Kenz on May 23, 2013 at 1:10 AM