I’d bet cash money that Rand will do better than Ron did

I’d bet cash money it’s Rand’s to lose. Establishment and legacy named candidates just aren’t going to cut in 2016.

think it’s time to stop demanding a candidate, however, be Mr. Perfect (or Ms.). No one is ever going to be such and NOT wanting such doesn’t make one “squishy”…we all have to work together now.

Lourdes on January 20, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Without first seeking someone with character and goodness, the rest of the qualities become meaningless and can be found in many a dictator.
(That old “Mussolini made the trains run on time” bit)
No more Mr.Etch-a sketches, winning with a smooth-talking, well-imaged, expert on all things who gets elected and becomes another back-stabbing, America-hating, flexibly-principled-vote-buyer….

Creepy!

Christie could lose every last tea-party vote and conceivably still squeak through to some sort of Romney-esque victory over a divided conservative field.

Yeah, it would be “Romney-esque”, alright. Same results.

Off the top of my head, along with your list: Rick Perry, Sam Brownback, Jan Brewer, Rick Scott, Mike Pence, Susan Martinez.
cptacek on January 19, 2013 at 5:43 PM

I like Jan Brewer. Certainly if she got close to the top, the RINOs would try to Palinize her

If you think people got pissed at line-jumpers at gas stations during Sandy, wait until even liberal Americans finally realize that their Social Security that they paid in is being given to the wave of border crashers whom 0bama is about to give the key to the city..
cane_loader on January 19, 2013 at 8:12 PM

Neither DEMS nor RINOs want to talk about the fact the bulk of illegals pushed millions of Americans out of jobs. Only about a million of 20 million work in agriculture.

The RINOs want to hire them, and the DEMs want to organize them.

There is a complete disconnect between our unemployment numbers, and 20 million illegals working

The politicians, and the MSM want the illegals to hold those jobs so badly they block out any discussion of this job theft by calling it ‘racism’. They want it so bad, they will throw away rule of law to get it. Both parties.

Not sure where libertarians stand on open borders. However, with our huge welfare state, we cannot afford the flow, which will not end with amnesty. The flow will continue until someone is elected to the WH who wants to stop it

Example, I like Perry but even he has liabilities. We all have them, liabilities.

Lourdes on January 20, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Excellent point..:)

Then again, if it were that easy, why didn’t Giuliani win in 2008?

Beacuse, fark NY. That’s why. People around the country will say the same thing to some guy from Jersey.

It’s why I laughed so hard when the media tried to make serious POTUS material guy out of Cuomo this week.

Moesart on January 19, 2013 at 1:33 AM

Exactly. And relistening to that Cuomo screed, I mean, how anyone can take that guy seriously after THAT, I don’t know. He presents himself as truly deranged.

No one from New York as to the politicians they elect can ever represent or even understand, so it appears, what the US average voter is about, same goes for from Chicago, Detroit, etc.

They may be intelligent and capable for local govt. but they don’t seem to even recognize perspectives other than the Progressive ones.

It’s an imbalance in constituency I’d like to see changed in our voting process but until it is, politicians sent to DC from states due to their urban voters, predominantly, are going to push the Progressive, Leftwing “change”.

I also think his schtick is wearing thin, or soon will with most people. Everyone I talk to on both sides finds it mildly amusing. They also find Christie’s political opportunism personally repulsive.
Obamunists like his pig-snout-in-the-trough and embrace of Teh Won grandstanding over Sandy but conservatives are disgusted by it, just as they’re disgusted by his recent attack on the NRA. Every time he opens his big mouth he pushes conservatives and Republicans away.

single stack on January 19, 2013 at 5:32 AM

I agree with all of that. And the louder and longer Christie receives Leftmedia focus, the worse the GOP credibility will become.

Leftmedia focuses on these people like Christie, Bloomberg, Crist, McCain, Huntsman, RON Paul, Hagel…because it pulls the GOP credibility down and discourages voters on the Right.

I also think we on the Right need to stop promoting “possible Presidential candidates” as if they are icons of All That’s Right, for two primary reasons: no one person is that and we should be focused instead on Congress.

The Presidential possibles should be emerged after the next Congressional election and promoting who-him-her-what before then only runs down support for them with the inevitable critical discussions about ‘them’ each, whoever they are.

I like Rand Paul so far, I like Paul Ryan as to his values (problems with his voting record, though), I’ve never considered Christie acceptable for what’s important to me — an obnoxious character, certainly, but his media parade just before last Presidential election in hugging Obama was so insulting to Romney — and as to Rubio, he’s still no closer than arm’s length to my level of confidence as to a President.

I think it’s time to stop demanding a candidate, however, be Mr. Perfect (or Ms.). No one is ever going to be such and NOT wanting such doesn’t make one “squishy”…we all have to work together now.

I’m not suggesting surrendering one’s ideals, I’m only suggesting that we not put possible Pres. candidates on SUCH a pedestal that emergence of their inevitable humanity and values, especially, sees them denigrated by voters on the Right.

Example, I like Perry but even he has liabilities. We all have them, liabilities.

And the media will serve a hot heaping portion of “Hey this Christie guy may be the real deal for the GOP!”

Bishop on January 18, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Yep, exactly.

They did that with McCain, and we got stuck with him as nominee, they did that with Crist (for a while), tried it with Huntsman, are doing it with Rubio…

…which is why I am really hesitant about Rubio. He’s still miles more an improvement but still, I have my doubts about anyone who is as measured as he is.

I’ve never been too fond of Christie, viewing him from the beginning as too Left for my support.

So the GOP is going with the guy who co-signed the NRA attacking Malia and Sasha Obama? Yup, that’ll work in 2016.

libfreeordie on January 20, 2013 at 11:28 AM

LFD, you never fail in parroting the Left lies, distortions, untruths and otherwise, crazy-talk.

This is how the Left works the GOP over, by Leftmedia establishing false flags, the false narrative, then damning while insisting the Right respond to that and whatever the response is is further condemned as illegitimate on one issue scale or another.

I appreciate Rand Paul speaking frankly about Christie. But none of us on the Right should expect anything from media about Christie other than the use of him as some icon of ‘right’ to condemn the actual Right voters.

So the GOP is going with the guy who co-signed the NRA attacking Malia and Sasha Obama? Yup, that’ll work in 2016.

libfreeordie on January 20, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Nobody attacked Malia and Sasha. They attacked THEIR FATHER for allowing them to be protected with guns all the while denying and disagreeing our children deserved the same.

NO ONE faults Obama for protecting his girls; we fault him for trying to deny us the same opportunity to protect our families, capice?

who co-signed the NRA attacking Malia and Sasha Obama?

libfreeordie on January 20, 2013 at 11:28 AM

The ad didn’t attack them, sh*t for brains. Take your retarded narratives somewhere else.

So the GOP is going with the guy who co-signed the NRA attacking Malia and Sasha Obama? Yup, that’ll work in 2016.

libfreeordie on January 20, 2013 at 11:28 AM

No… We’re probably going with the Latino guy from Florida who gives pretty speeches. Either him or the adorkable math nerd.

However, we’re not going to go with the fat bully from New Jersey. You can totally have him. As an obnoxious blowhard, he’ll fit right into the Democratic party.