Rand Paul hits Chris Christie for criticizing NRA ad, grandstanding on Sandy relief bill

posted at 5:31 pm on January 18, 2013 by Allahpundit

I’m intrigued and oddly impressed at how obviously Paul’s maneuvering for 2016. First the trip to Israel, then the bill to nullify any executive actions taken by Obama on guns, now this double-barreled shot at grassroots conservatives’ new bete noire. One of the things about the elder Paul that some people loved and others found off-putting was that he never seemed terribly interested in ingratiating himself with mainstream conservatives. If you’re a fan, maybe you took that as proof of principle, that he was above gladhanding political nonsense towards people foolish enough not to embrace libertarianism wholeheartedly. If you aren’t, you took it as evidence that he disdained the rank-and-file Republicans whose votes he’d need to win and wasn’t willing to bend towards some of their concerns. It’s an open question how similar Ron and Rand are on policy, but from a pure retail standpoint, Rand seems way more willing to play to the wider GOP base. The clearest example to date was him endorsing Romney last year while Ron predictably refused. But dumping on a guy who’s irritated everyone to the right of “Morning Joe” lately is another small yet effective way to do it:

Paul claimed that Christie had “backed down” on gun rights: “You have some Republicans backing down like Christie backing down and criticizing the NRA, and I think that doesn’t do any good.”

When asked by Ingraham why Christie made the comments, he responded that they were politically calculated. “I think he may be solidifying his support with Democrats in New Jersey and maybe liberal Republicans.”

Paul warned Christie that his criticism of the NRA, as well as his criticism of fellow Republicans over the Sandy relief bill, would come back to haunt him if he made a presidential run in 2016. “I think criticizing the Second Amendment movement and the over-the-top ‘give me my money’ stuff, ‘I want all sixty billion now or I’ll throw a tantrum,’ I don’t think that’s going to play well in the Republican primary.”

“I think people need to think through what their position on these things are.” Paul concluded.

The field will be more crowded, with many heavier hitters, in 2016 than it was in 2012, but I’d bet cash money that Rand will do better than Ron did, especially if Obama continues to fiddle on entitlements. The more dire the fiscal situation gets, the more appealing a harder line libertarian appears vis-a-vis a more traditional conservative Republican pol.

As for Christie, between the post-Sandy Obama photo op, the grandstanding on Sandy relief, and now dumping on the NRA while saying nothing about Obama’s own bit of child exploitation, WaPo’s wondering if he’s already finished for 2016. I doubt it. To repeat a point made recently, the lesson of nominating McCain and Romney is that the national Republican primary electorate is way bigger than the universe of grassroots conservatives. Christie could lose every last tea-party vote and conceivably still squeak through to some sort of Romney-esque victory over a divided conservative field. (Then again, if it were that easy, why didn’t Giuliani win in 2008?) But I still think he’d be better off hooking up with Bloomberg and running a serious third-party campaign. For better or worse, after all the betrayals of conservatives lately, that’s his brand now. If he had a few hundred million from Bloomy to jump-start him and some serious media buzz about being the first credible independent candidate since Perot, who knows what he could do? Republicans’ popularity is at a recent historic low in some polls and Christie’s popularity is sky high. If he ends up with the right opponents — Cuomo, say, if Hillary doesn’t run and maybe Rand Paul on the right — it’s not impossible to imagine him contending seriously. Think of it: The first “No Labels” president. What could go wrong?

Via Newsbusters, here’s Andrea Mitchell marveling at the fact that, notwithstanding Christie’s blue-state pander about their “reprehensible” ad, the NRA is a reasonably popular organization.


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This assumes he will run as a republican…

Ellis on January 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Boom goes the fat man.

VegasRick on January 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Christie is a clown.

SFH on January 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Andrea Mitchell’s small brain esplodes.

Schadenfreude on January 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM

This assumes he will run as a republican…

Ellis on January 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

True but shillary will be the dim candidate and I doubt chrissy will run as a Vegetarian.
/

VegasRick on January 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Ann Coulter…you have something to say hon ?

burrata on January 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM

OT

The entire US ‘leadership’ is this now.

Schadenfreude on January 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Well Rand has my vote, at least until he loses it.

He seems savvy, and he’s right on most of the important issues. (Don’t tell me marijuana legalization–either way–is really important.)

I was a Rubio fan until the immigration implosion he’s in the middle of. Ugh.

Nessuno on January 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Christie could lose every last tea-party vote and conceivably still squeak through to some sort of Romney-esque victory over a divided conservative field.

I wouldn’t be so sure. Romney was the more conservative candidate in 2008, and his nomination in ’12 was mostly the product of the stunning unfitness for office and poor organization of his main rivals, which led to the Not-Romney shuffle.

Primary voters have very long memories, though. If Tim Pawlenty can get derailed for the (mis)quote “the era of small government is over,” there ain’t no way Tubby’s getting away with everything he’s said from October to now.

KingGold on January 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM

For a second opinion check with Elizabeth Dole!

jaydee_007 on January 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Ann Coulter…you have something to say hon ?

burrata on January 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM

That’s good you bring that up. Coulter jumped the shark with that one.

Nessuno on January 18, 2013 at 5:41 PM

When asked by Ingraham why Christie made the comments, he responded that they were politically calculated. “I think he may be solidifying his support with Democrats in New Jersey and maybe liberal Republicans.”

A politician who tells the truth…how refreshing.

Tim_CA on January 18, 2013 at 5:41 PM

its almost like the key to win primaries is listening to GOP voters.

rob verdi on January 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Down

Schadenfreude on January 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM

This assumes he will run as a republican…

Ellis on January 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Bingo.

Fenris on January 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM

This assumes he will run as a republican…

Ellis on January 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Gawd I hope not.

Mr. Arrogant on January 18, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Ann Coulter…you have something to say hon ?

burrata on January 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM

lol.

AC’s last shred of cred died with romney’s loss.

Tim_CA on January 18, 2013 at 5:44 PM

And the media will serve a hot heaping portion of “Hey this Christie guy may be the real deal for the GOP!”

Bishop on January 18, 2013 at 5:44 PM

As for Christie, between the post-Sandy Obama photo op, the grandstanding on Sandy relief, and now dumping on the NRA while saying nothing about Obama’s own bit of child exploitation, WaPo’s wondering if he’s already finished for 2016. I doubt it.

Guess again! He’s finished. He’s not capable of stopping himself from alienating everybody he can’t make a backroom deal with. That’s how he gets by in NJ, by stabbing his own party in the back and colluding with Democrats. The kind of deals that a Republican in NYC (Giuliani) or in NJ (Christie) has to make is exactly what prevents them from being serious presidential candidates. Too many skeletons in the closet, mostly from shady deals and unsavory powerbrokers.

cicerone on January 18, 2013 at 5:46 PM

As for Christie, between the post-Sandy Obama photo op, the grandstanding on Sandy relief, and now dumping on the NRA while saying nothing about Obama’s own bit of child exploitation, WaPo’s wondering if he’s already finished for 2016.

Finished. Fini. E finito tutto. Ya pasó, Todo terminó.

petefrt on January 18, 2013 at 5:46 PM

The anorexic meth head Coulter has been strangely quiet lately. I wonder why?

Mr. Arrogant on January 18, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Is Christie just Andrew Cuomo in a fat suit? Maybeeee….

joe btfsplk on January 18, 2013 at 5:47 PM

As if Sandy Obama wasn’t enough, that swipe at the NRA ad was waaay over the top.

petefrt on January 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM

And yes, I know that Obama is the product of an urban political machine but he was fast-tracked from jump and didn’t have to make any deals. He didn’t have any real authority. No executive history as either a mayor or a governor. In other words, he was protected and coddled. So it’s not the same thing.

cicerone on January 18, 2013 at 5:49 PM

KingGold on January 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM

I agree. If there were an acceptable candidate more conservative than Romney, voters would have selected that person. Romney was the last man standing because everyone else more or less imploded.

The Count on January 18, 2013 at 5:51 PM

I look forward to future episodes of Rand and the Fatman. I don’t think either is what the country needs, but Christie is a an elephant turd!

Rockshine on January 18, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Rand Paul is spot on. It’s been extremely disappointing watching Christie grandstand on these issues.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on January 18, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Chris Christie is positioning himself to be the VP candidate for the Democratic party in 2016.

Within the next 2 years he will switch to the Democratic party.

albill on January 18, 2013 at 5:54 PM

If Romney ran again in 2016, I would vote for him again if my only other option was Christie.

The Count on January 18, 2013 at 5:54 PM

As if Sandy Obama wasn’t enough, that swipe at the NRA ad was waaay over the top.

petefrt on January 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM

He also didn’t do himself any favors with the keynote address at the national convention. Lots of first person pronoun references.

a capella on January 18, 2013 at 5:56 PM

I’m really liking Rand Paul.

As for Christie… someone needs to seriously ask this man in public if the NRA ad is worse than selling high powered, semi-automatic assault rifles to Mexican drug cartels.

I read this morning on Breitbart that they have lost track of over a thousand of these assault rifles that the Obama administration sold to drug cartels. They could end up anywhere in any future murder. Talk about gun violence.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the administration has a team of people looking for any trace of these weapons used in crimes…. ready to come in and do the cover up.

Sorta like Hillary’s job to secure the bimbo eruptions… Obama has a team assigned to handle “Fast and Furious Eruptions.”
We may never know all of the crimes these guns will be and/or have been used in.

JellyToast on January 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM


“But I still think he would be better off hooking up with Bloomberg and running a serious third party campaign”

The Laurel and Hardy Party!

Natebo on January 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Although Christie is not a communist, much like Obama, he is very impressed with himself, arrogant, likes hearing himself talk, etc.

DaveDief on January 18, 2013 at 5:59 PM

“I think criticizing the Second Amendment movement and the over-the-top ‘give me my money’ stuff, ‘I want all sixty billion now or I’ll throw a tantrum,’ I don’t think that’s going to play well in the Republican primary.” Rand Paul

Good quote.

After watching some of his videos, etc., Rand Paul is showing more political skill than the old man ever did. He is just a smoother person politically speaking. Also because he is a Senator from Kentucky he can be himself, his seat is safe.

He has a legit chance of winning the GOP nomination. I don’t think he is a favorite or anything at this point, but he is refreshing. His brand of Libertarianism is needed in this party and country.

William Eaton on January 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Christie needs to be liposuctioned from our minds.

meci on January 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Close the primaries.

Kataklysmic on January 18, 2013 at 6:05 PM

The only donations Bloomberg would get would be out of his own wallet.

GarandFan on January 18, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Eff Chrstie. He’s also a Sharia-reality denier. If the GOP nominates that lard-ass for 2016 then they’re begging for their third defeat in a row.

Also, from the Washington Examiner piece referenced above:

One closer test will be whether he (Paul) votes to confirm Chuck Hagel as defense secretary, an issue on which he has yet to take a position.

I am vehemently pro-Israel and anti-isolationist. But Rand Paul seems to be making some interesting maneuvers, that’s for sure. At least he has nads. No one else in the GOP does.

WhatSlushfund on January 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Tubby McLardarse definitely needs to take a long walk on a short pier.

Christie is dead to me.

He’ll never ever get my vote on a national ticket. Not a chance in Hades. Ever.

SD Tom on January 18, 2013 at 6:08 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEpQh8hWzj4

renalin on January 18, 2013 at 6:13 PM

The Media loved Maverick too. Until he got the nomination. Christie is the perfect guy for the Media to promote until July 2016.

I’ll never vote for him. No matter what.

Curtiss on January 18, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Fat boy will never be a president for many reasons.
Number one being how he pissed all over Mitt Romney days before the election and number two the moment he ever announces a run will be the last day the left will ever love him.

NeoKong on January 18, 2013 at 6:14 PM

I could support Rand Paul in 2016, but I think Rubio might be a better national candidate. I don’t think Christie will ever win the GOP nomination. He might as well move to the Democrat party.

TarheelBen on January 18, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Christie is a giant ego who has chosen to be “above” party but has actually just shown that he as no interests above his own. He also has convinced himself that having no values is a sign of strength.

He has zero chance as a Republican for the Presidential nomination. When he realizes it, he may go for the ultra screw and run as an Independent, ensuring another Democrat President. That may be exactly what he wants after he is rejected by conservatives for being a disloyal jerk store.

Not to pile on, but Ann Coulter has destroyed her credibility and should probably take a long vacation and reevaluate. Im not sure if she has become more celebrity than thinker or what, but she really has lost touch.

Ill rather have Andrew Wilkow, Greg Gutfield, and Ben Shapiro out there defending conservative values….time to put Ann out to pasture.

alecj on January 18, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Governor Zeppelin. What a Tower of Jello.

kingsjester on January 18, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Maddow – Rand Paul – Civil Rights Act

talk about coming back to haunt someone, it could be an all-white presidential campaign and it will still end up being white guilt, privilege, racism, sexism, etcetera, etcetera.

Paul the junior is great.

John Kettlewell on January 18, 2013 at 6:24 PM

After watching some of his videos, etc., Rand Paul is showing more political skill than the old man ever did. He is just a smoother person politically speaking. Also because he is a Senator from Kentucky he can be himself, his seat is safe.

William Eaton on January 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM

I agree, but I don’t necessarily think it’s that he’s from Kentucky. When I watch him interviewed, I see this relaxed confidence in his answers like he doesn’t have to think about what the right answer is – he just knows it. He’s like his dad in that regard but without the nuttiness.

The Count on January 18, 2013 at 6:27 PM

This fat f*ck has had his fifteen minutes, as far as I’m concerned. Let him join Bloomblob in the ex-Republican caucus.

slickwillie2001 on January 18, 2013 at 6:28 PM

Ummm.. Yes, Both McCain and Romney won the nominations. But I think that the circumstances in 2016 are going to be much different. Romney won because the 2012 field was awful. He wasn’t just the “most electable;” none of the others even passed the laugh test in terms of electability. McCain won in 2008 because people had serious (and correct) reservations about Romney as a politician. McCain also got more of a pass than Christie will in terms of criticizing the Republican party because McCain is an actual war hero. It is the Tom Clancy effect.. McCain was basically a Hollywood character running for President.

In 2016, Butterball will be facing two smart, electable, and more conservative politicians.. Rubio and Ryan. And despite the press that Christie is getting, the media seems to have decided on a Rubio vs. Ryan primary. The only way he could win is if Rubio and Ryan split the vote enough that Christie squeaks through. Also, Rubio has Florida as a backstop and Ryan should do well in Iowa but Christie really doesn’t have any natural constituency. I guess that he’d have to stake his claim on New Hampshire and hope to win over Indies ala McCain in 2000. However, McCain won because he basically worked New Hampshire over in both 2000 and when he was out of money in 2008. Does anyone really think that Christie is going to spend days and days take questions in New Hampshire and stroking egos up there? He is an arrogant a** and cannot be bothered to do that.

Illinidiva on January 18, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Could you imagine Bloomburglar’s having a meal with Crist Christie?

FloatingRock on January 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM

SLEEVELESS???

Screw science. Whoever thought that reanimating the Mummy Mitchell was a good idea should be publicly flogged for crimes against humanity.

SickofLibs on January 18, 2013 at 6:32 PM

bete noire

Hey, lighten up with the french stuff. Some of us went to public schools.

Alabama Infidel on January 18, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Chris Christie is truly a brave man – willing to fight for his state and stand up against the gun toting racist rednecks in the GOP.

He represents moderate Republicans like Rockefeller, which is rare in the party of Jim Crow.

/ EVERY SINGLE MSM OUTLET, and part of Fox.

CorporatePiggy on January 18, 2013 at 6:35 PM

Romney got the nomination because of Sheldon Adelson’s excessive donations first to otherwise nonviable candidates who would split the conservative vote in the primaries and then to Romney directly. Romney didn’t squeak by, he didn’t get lucky – he got special attention from a billionaire who decided to force a factory-second RINO on the American people. Allowing, “The One” an undeserved second term.

The truth is, Christie won’t brand of RINO republican doesn’t play well outside of the northeast. We have nothing to fear, despite the GOP establishment and the media trying to portray him as the next big thing.

Come and take it on January 18, 2013 at 6:35 PM

I wouldn’t be so sure. Romney was the more conservative candidate in 2008, and his nomination in ’12 was mostly the product of the stunning unfitness for office and poor organization of his main rivals, which led to the Not-Romney shuffle.

KingGold on January 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Oh, give me a break. Romney was the nominee in ’12 because he was Next In Line. Romney was anointed as the next GOP sacrificial sheep as soon as McCain lost, and that in part was why the field was so terrible.

ddrintn on January 18, 2013 at 6:35 PM

Senator Paul scores again.

gophergirl on January 18, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Christie demands his cut of flesh off a carcass.

http://www.shadowstats.com/

workingclass artist on January 18, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Christie is clearly the biggest grand stander/showboat/self-aggrandizer on the political scene today. He surpasses even Obama himself in that regard and at the rate he is going will soon surpass P.T. Barnum.

VorDaj on January 18, 2013 at 6:39 PM

I could support Rand Paul in 2016, but I think Rubio might be a better national candidate. I don’t think Christie will ever win the GOP nomination. He might as well move to the Democrat party.

TarheelBen on January 18, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Two years ago, saying that Christie was anything other than a solid conservative would earn you the Purist Rube Wingnut label. My how times change.

ddrintn on January 18, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Rand Paul continues to impress. Chris Christie continues to disappoint. The only thing going for Christie is that going forward he can’t be accused of backstabbing the GOP since he’s already done so.

theperfecteconomist on January 18, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Please don’t break my heart, Rand.

Fallon on January 18, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Maddow – Rand Paul – Civil Rights Act

talk about coming back to haunt someone, it could be an all-white presidential campaign and it will still end up being white guilt, privilege, racism, sexism, etcetera, etcetera.

Paul the junior is great.

John Kettlewell on January 18, 2013 at 6:24 PM

I just watched the clip. He was solid, but I’m not sure how that would play among the honey boo boo masses. I wish he put the question to her like, “Does a privately-owned, traditional Chinese restaurant have the right to discriminate hiring white bus boys?”.

The Count on January 18, 2013 at 6:52 PM

I think you overestimate where the party will be in 2016 AP. The moderate Republican that can reach across the aisle will be even more fiercely hated in 2016. I also don’t remember Romney throwing bombs at the right for the years before getting the nomination. Yes, he threw them at specific candidates but his latest crap is an offense to everybody. Also the Northeast Republican thing as played out by Christie will not want to be repeated if Romney couldn’t pull it off. Next there is the “can we trust him” factor that the Establishment treasures in a candidate and Christie showed he looks out for Christie and he is a true scumbag in that sense. I think it will cause nuclear war if Christie tries to run and nothing like Romney saw. People like Rush will NOT stand by and be neutral I will bet.

Conan on January 18, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Christie could lose every last tea-party vote and conceivably still squeak through to some sort of Romney-esque victory over a divided conservative field.

This makes the implicit claim that Romney had no Tea Party and no Conservative support which is just not the truth.

VorDaj on January 18, 2013 at 6:56 PM

Like we need more proof that NE “republicans” really are RINOs.

We need a conservative party. No if, ands, or buts. The RINOs are never going to help conservatives. Demonrat lite is not my idea of a party nominee to vote for. Throw your vote away if you want to. We are done supporting the repubs.

johnny reb on January 18, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Ann Coulter is a poor judge of character.

Joe Mama on January 18, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Christie is the MSM new McCaine

pat on January 18, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Republican progressive’s answer to questionnaire

Who has done the most damage to the republican brand?

1. O’Donnel.
2, Powell.
or
3. Christie.

Answer: 1

If C. Christie switched to Democrat would your previous answer change?

Answer: No

BoxHead1 on January 18, 2013 at 7:17 PM

As far as I know, Christie only criticized the reference to Obama’s kids in that NRA ad…and rightfully so. On that, I’m on Christie’s side. And sorry Rand…as much a fan I am of Boehner he screwed up by initially not bringing the Sandy relief to the floor.

…from a pure retail standpoint, Rand seems way more willing to play to the wider GOP base.

Absolutely. I gotta say I’m never sure how to take Rand Paul…or if I like him or not.

JetBoy on January 18, 2013 at 7:19 PM

I am vehemently pro-Israel and anti-isolationist. But Rand Paul seems to be making some interesting maneuvers, that’s for sure. At least he has nads. No one else in the GOP does.

WhatSlushfund on January 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Is Rand Paul anti-Israel? I think he is mostly anti our sending
so much money overseas when we should be cleaning up our own
financial messes.

Also, most presidents spout the anti war rhetoric until they get
in office and see that some of it is necessary. His father is the
isolationist. Is Rand also?

Amjean on January 18, 2013 at 7:20 PM

I like Rand, and I would certainly be more likely to support him in the GOP primaries than his father.

That said, it’s early days yet.
If Perry runs again, I’ll likely be in his camp.
But I’m not gonna get all hateful toward other candidates like so many conservatives did last year. Unless Christie is running.

And let’s drop the purity tests, OK? All that happened in 2012 was a circular firing squad taking out every serious conservative candidate until the only ones left were Romney and a joke in a sweater vest hardly anyone could take seriously.

DRayRaven on January 18, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Rand Paul has been impressing me lately..hope he keeps it up

sadsushi on January 18, 2013 at 7:26 PM

grandstanding on Sandy relief bill

Christie shouldn’t be “standing” on anything that isn’t heavily reinforced – preferably with steel trusses.

Tim_CA on January 18, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Another politician spouting off about blah blah this and blah blah that…

Words, that’s all it is, all it ever is…

I cannot believe anyone in the GOPe any more.

Yes, I am totally disillusioned…

Scrumpy on January 18, 2013 at 7:31 PM

DRayRaven on January 18, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Who did the ‘taking’ out eh?

The GOPe will betray YOU!! (had to ressurect this saying)…

Scrumpy on January 18, 2013 at 7:33 PM

Scrumpy on January 18, 2013 at 7:31 PM

Please keep the faith..:)

PS..Good to see you..:)

Dire Straits on January 18, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Is Rand Paul anti-Israel? I think he is mostly anti our sending
so much money overseas when we should be cleaning up our own
financial messes.

Amjean on January 18, 2013 at 7:20 PM

No group has done more damage to the GOP in the past 30 years than the neocons (Bill Kristol and company).

bw222 on January 18, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Note to squishy Republicans..

I will not under any circumstances vote for Christie. I will not vote for anyone who gets in because some RINO says they are the “only person who can win.” I will never vote for someone who other than being tough on union is a fricking Democrat.

And I would venture there is a lot more in our party that feel like me than like you.

Nominate Christie at your own peril, but after voting for losers like Romney and McCain; I will no longer be giving my vote away in 2016 just because someone has an R on the back of their name.

melle1228 on January 18, 2013 at 7:36 PM

Christie is a rude, pompous, arrogant blowhard and thank you Rand Paul for knocking him down a few pegs. I hope to God Christie doesn’t decide he wants to blow the election for us by jumping in the race for 2016. He will lose. And therefore, so will we.

scalleywag on January 18, 2013 at 7:38 PM

Scrumpy

Since you know Delmarva and its scrapple:) I suggest that you read Mrs. Marshfox’s(Lila Munro) Slower Lower series, I have a feeling you would like it.

MarshFox on January 18, 2013 at 7:38 PM

As far as I know, Christie only criticized the reference to Obama’s kids in that NRA ad…and rightfully so.

I am curious why that is rightfully so? . The NRA was right to call out the fact that Obama and those that support him are against security for MY children all the while having armed guards for his.

Obama has SURROUNDED himself with children as a cover for his political agenda.. WHere the hell is Christie on that?

melle1228 on January 18, 2013 at 7:38 PM

This assumes he will run as a republican…

Ellis on January 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Exactly.

The Hill’s too old and carries too much baggage. Biden is the useful idiot.

The dhimmicRATs will run Lard Butt and talk about how they compromise.

davidk on January 18, 2013 at 7:39 PM

Dire Straits on January 18, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Good evening, I am trying, it is so hard!!

We are not perfect, but I do tire of all the pols saying what they know we want to hear and then stabbing us in the back…

I shall follow Paul closely, as I am Cruz… time will tell.

If they go back on their words? We can hold their feet to the fire and vote them out, but it gets to be old news after so many let downs…

Scrumpy on January 18, 2013 at 7:40 PM

MarshFox on January 18, 2013 at 7:38 PM

Thank you for the tip!!

I have already been to Amazon, and have fav’ed several…

She is getting great reviews!!

Scrumpy on January 18, 2013 at 7:41 PM

Since you know Delmarva and its scrapple:) I suggest that you read Mrs. Marshfox’s(Lila Munro) Slower Lower series, I have a feeling you would like it.

MarshFox on January 18, 2013 at 7:38 PM

I lived in lower slower Sussex County. Scrapple tastes just as one would expect from a reading of the ingredients, but my wife and her daughters, natives all, love it.

Where would one obtain Mrs. Marshfox’s (not her real name) Slower Lower series?

BTW, there’s a store in Millsboro called Lower Slower.

davidk on January 18, 2013 at 7:44 PM

Scrumpy on January 18, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Good deal..Hang in there..:)

Dire Straits on January 18, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Another politician spouting off about blah blah this and blah blah that…

Words, that’s all it is, all it ever is…

I cannot believe anyone in the GOPe any more.

Yes, I am totally disillusioned…

Scrumpy on January 18, 2013 at 7:31 PM

All talk and no walk.

All hat and no saddle.

And you’re right. The pols talks and all I hear is, “Blah, blah, blah.”

davidk on January 18, 2013 at 7:47 PM

David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog

“If your opponent has a conscience, then follow Gandhi. But if your enemy has no conscience, then follow Bonhoeffer.” – MLK Jr.

davidk on January 18, 2013 at 7:48 PM

And sorry Rand…as much a fan I am of Boehner he screwed up by initially not bringing the Sandy relief to the floor.

BTW, Jetboy- FEMA already had 7 billion dollars in their arsenal before the relief bill was passed. There was money already available, so there was no hurry or need to pass a relief bill most of which didn’t even go to Sandy relief anyways.

The reason no one was getting any FEMA money had less to do with money availability and more to do with bureaucratic red tape.

melle1228 on January 18, 2013 at 7:48 PM

davidk on January 18, 2013 at 7:44 PM

Amazon is the place, I do warn though that they are a bit spicy, though I am quite sure that Scrumpy could attest that she has quite a bit more spicy stuff out there.

Scrapple is an acquired taste to be sure:) With them being natives, I am sure your time there was fairly enjoyable, and I know well that store, they have some similar down in Delmar as well. The slow turtle seems to be the county animal/mascot:)

MarshFox on January 18, 2013 at 7:51 PM

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/264829-dem-leaders-says-fema-has-enough-cash-for-now

On top of more than $1 billion left over in the Disaster Relief Fund from last year, Congress has appropriated $7.1 billion for fiscal 2013. President Obama’s decision to make disaster declarations in New York and New Jersey — in addition to emergency declarations in eight other states and the District of Columbia — allows local officials to access those funds immediately.

melle1228 on January 18, 2013 at 7:51 PM

Scrumpy on January 18, 2013 at 7:41 PM

I will let here know and she is, we just need more so we can push her over the top:) She will be very appreciative.

MarshFox on January 18, 2013 at 7:53 PM

Jetboy. Umm why are you defending Butterball? Seriously, haven’t you been burned enough by your last RINO crush.. Charlie Crist. It’s totally okay to ditch Christie in favor of Ryan or Rubio. Both are much more fun to look at. N

Illinidiva on January 18, 2013 at 7:57 PM

I am curious why that is rightfully so? . The NRA was right to call out the fact that Obama and those that support him are against security for MY children all the while having armed guards for his.

Obama has SURROUNDED himself with children as a cover for his political agenda.. WHere the hell is Christie on that?

melle1228 on January 18, 2013 at 7:38 PM

Well, first off the president’s kids get secret service protection, as well they should. So that’s not relevant. And Sidwell Friends school where Obama’s daughters attend does have their own armed security as many students there come from high profile families.

I said this last night, and as much as defending Obama leaves a bad taste in the my mouth, I don’t believe he has taken a “no armed security” stance at this point…if I’m wrong about that, do let me know…I’m nursing the flu and my brain is soaked in Nyquil.

As for Obama’s blatant use of those kids during that presser, it wasn’t at all surprising, and I’d agree that it was a cheap shot to advance his assault weapons stance in clear violation of the 2nd amendment IMHO.

But yeah, for the NRA to reference Obama’s kids like they did in that particular ad was, as Christie said, reprehensible. Perhaps that might be too strong a word, but it was, at best, below the belt. Of course any POTUS’ kids should be off limits.

So in both incidents…the NRA ad/Obama’s kids and Obama’s use of kids to help advance his gun control agenda…the use or mention of children as they both did was cheap, and wrong.

JetBoy on January 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Rand Paul hits Chris Christie for criticizing NRA ad, grandstanding on Sandy relief bill

…glad someone is finally confronting that lard-of-tub!

KOOLAID2 on January 18, 2013 at 8:10 PM

BTW, Jetboy- FEMA already had 7 billion dollars in their arsenal before the relief bill was passed. There was money already available, so there was no hurry or need to pass a relief bill most of which didn’t even go to Sandy relief anyways.

The reason no one was getting any FEMA money had less to do with money availability and more to do with bureaucratic red tape.

melle1228 on January 18, 2013 at 7:48 PM

For sure Obama’s promise to Sandy victims to eliminate the Relief funds from all the red tape was just a soundbite promise he probably had no intention of keeping anyway. Nothing surprising with that…it’s Liberal 101 stuff.

JetBoy on January 18, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Just don’t get all rubio on immigration and you’re 98% there, Senator Paul.

Jeddite on January 18, 2013 at 8:20 PM

I am vehemently pro-Israel and anti-isolationist. But Rand Paul seems to be making some interesting maneuvers, that’s for sure. At least he has nads. No one else in the GOP does.

WhatSlushfund on January 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Is Rand Paul anti-Israel? I think he is mostly anti our sending
so much money overseas when we should be cleaning up our own
financial messes.

Also, most presidents spout the anti war rhetoric until they get
in office and see that some of it is necessary. His father is the
isolationist. Is Rand also?

Amjean on January 18, 2013 at 7:20 PM

I didn’t in any way mean to imply that he was anti-Israel. I don’t know if he is or not. I’m certainly not an expert on every statement he’s ever made.

I was simply trying to lay out what some of my values were as a voter and what I would judge any candidate by. His father’s ideas regarding foreign policy could not be more wrong-headed. That doesn’t necessarily mean that the junior Paul takes the same positions. I’m waiting to see. Some of his statements seem a bit soft on support for Israel and vaguely isolationist more broadly to me. But I’ll wait and see.

Regarding US foreign aid as a separate topic, I agree with his general direction. We need to suspend nearly all foreign aid anywhere, and, as I pointed out in another post here yesterday, there are even some Israeli analysts that think that Israel might have more policy flexibility if Israel stopped receiving US financial aid. And why on earth would we give financial aid to places like Egypt and Pakistan for crying out loud. The whole logic behind the idea of the US giving foreign financial aid and what leverage it could buy us is a relic of World War 2. It has virtually no value in today’s landscape. We’re essentially bleeding billions to countries that are mostly our enemies for no positive purpose. It’s nuts.

WhatSlushfund on January 18, 2013 at 8:20 PM

JetBoy on January 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Actually I find the whole anti-gun thing with Obama to be personal. It is him getting into my personal life and rights. I think when we are talking about how individuals protect themselve i.e., the 2nd amendment then how Obama and his family is protected is fair game.

melle1228 on January 18, 2013 at 8:31 PM

JetBoy. Please just commit to me that you won’t vote for Chris Christie in the primaries and also won’t vote for him in the general. I don’t think that kids should be used as political props.. although it is totally okay for liberals to make disparaging comments about Republican politicians young children. I remember hearing about how Ryan’s cute and very grounded kids were spoiled and unruly brats during the last election cycle. And I’m sure Rubio’s kids will get the same treatment. But hey.. double standard.

Illinidiva on January 18, 2013 at 8:43 PM

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