Video: Manti Te’o told media his girlfriend died of cancer two days after he allegedly knew it was a hoax

posted at 9:03 pm on January 17, 2013 by Allahpundit

It’s interesting to me how some of my friends think this is a giant yawn of a scandal and others are hanging on every twist. If you’re in group one, no need to read further. If you’re in group two, click the image below and watch. Is this the smoking gun? The detail that he found out about the hoax on December 6 comes from Notre Dame itself, so there’s no question he’s covering up the truth here. But is that because he was shellshocked after discovering he’d been duped and not ready to break the news to the public yet? (He didn’t tell Notre Dame until December 26.) Or is it because the whole thing’s a lie he concocted and he was still shoveling BS on December 8? One thing I can’t get over about the clip is how gratuitous the reference to his girlfriend is. He could have said something about cancer without mentioning her, but he did it anyway even though he knew at this point that she hadn’t died at all, let alone died of cancer. He started lying at some point. When? In December, or years ago?

To make this even odder, there’s a sort of hoax within a hoax here. Supposedly, people who know Te’o thought Kekua was real but also thought that he was exaggerating the extent of his relationship with her. From College Spun:

Yet, even before the Michigan State game, Manti Te’o was being questioned by his teammates. Apparently Manti had only “seen” Lennay once — but I assume “seen” was a rather loose term used for “chatted with online” (however, this is extremely complicated to understand since they were reportedly talking since 2009, according to the Te’o family). The debate among teammates wasn’t whether or not Manti actually knew this girl — it was clear that they had been in contact; no, players just didn’t think that it was fair to call Lennay Kekua Manti’s girlfriend, period (it is well-known on campus that he has had relations with other girls during his time at Notre Dame). They recognized what was going on for what it was — a terrible publicity stunt used to fuel Manti Te’o’s Heisman campaign. In fact, many of the players privately commented that they didn’t want the students to wear leis in support of Manti and wouldn’t participate themselves — they cited that the team never responded so publicly to tragic events for other players. But there was also the feeling that Manti didn’t deserve to benefit from publicity from the death of somebody he barely knew.

Similar stuff from ESPN:

While not saying that Manti Te’o participated in or knew about the hoax that his girlfriend did not exist, a former teammate told ESPN’s Bob Holtzman on Wednesday that players knew the woman wasn’t really his girlfriend even though Te’o played that up as his tragic story was being told.

In September, the grandmother of Te’o died, and it was widely reported that his girlfriend died hours later. Media outlets pounced on the story as Notre Dame began its march to the title game. After Deadspin.com broke the hoax story, however, multiple media reports have said players thought that Te’o had only met Lennay Kekua once and that it wasn’t really accurate to call her his girlfriend. But as condolences poured in, Te’o “played along,” according to the teammate, who wished to remain anonymous.

The teammate portrayed the move as part of the All-American’s personality, telling ESPN that Te’o liked attention so much that he would sometimes point himself out to friends when he was on television.

So in theory, Te’o might have believed that Kekua was a real person but wildly exaggerated how close they were in order to squeeze some sympathy from her death. And I do mean wildly: Sports Illustrated published the transcript today of an interview with Te’o they conducted on September 23, just 11 days after Kekua supposedly died. Here’s how emotionally intimate the relationship was, according to the man himself:

SI: You would literally sleep with your phone on with her on it?

TE’O: With her on it.

SI: When you woke up?

TE’O: She’s be on it.

SI: What would the phone say?

TE’O: Like eight hours. Lucky she had AT&T so it was all free or my family would kill me.

Eight-hour phone calls, just so that she could hear him breathe. With a girl he never actually met. More:

SI: She couldn’t communicate?

TE’O: No. She could only breathe. One of the miraculous things was when I talked to her and she would hear my voice her breathing would pick up. Like quickly, and then she would start crying. But her breathing would quicken, and she would start crying. So her brother was in the room with the nurse. They were monitoring her. She said, “Who is she on the phone with?” Her boyfriend. She was like, “That’s amazing. She doesn’t do that with anybody else.” So that happened. And then she flatlined and we were losing her.

The day I went home, that was the day they were going to pull it. They were saying their goodbyes and all that. I said, “Babe, I’m never going to say goodbye to you. If you really want to go, she really missed her dad, so I said, “If you want to go, be with dad, go. Just know that I love you very, very much.” I had this very positive feeling that everything was going to be OK. I landed in Hawaii. By the time I said my goodbyes. Not my goodbyes, my I love you, I’ll see you later, that kind of thing, I jumped on the airplane to go to Hawaii. They were scheduled to pull the plug while I was in the air.

So right when I landed, I was expecting to get a voicemail saying she’s gone. So I landed and I had a voicemail from her brother saying, “Brother, call me back right now.” So you can imagine what’s going through my head. I was like, “What am I going to do? How am I going to take this?’”And so I called him back, the doctor came in and he saw something and he wants to try some treatment on her to see if it works. From there she slowly started to get better. Slowly. Eventually she came out of her coma and she started having memory problems and she couldn’t remember because of the accident. That’s how much damage she had to her frontal lobe. She had memory problems. I was actually the first person that she talked to. She was breathing, breathing. When I talked to her, I would say, “Babe, do you know who this is?” I knew she knew who it was because her breathing would pick up. I was like, “Relax, chill. Breathe slowly. Breathe slowly.” And then, that was when she first started to speak was that conversation. I was like, “Babe, I love you. I love you.” Very slightly she said, “I love you.”

This is where I get lost. If all of that is invented, he’s a preternaturally convincing liar; it’s packed with gratuitous detail which someone who was trying to hide something just wouldn’t offer. And Te’o never explicitly says in the course of the interview that he and she ever met. He talks about having known her for four years, about her having come to a game and “seen” him, but as far as I know, in no interview he’s ever given has he talked about them going on dates, spending time face to face, etc. If he was going to make up this story whole cloth, why withhold that particular detail? Why not say, “We spent endless hours together on the beach,” blah blah, to make it even more romantic? (His parents did tell reporters that they had met. Presumably they were relaying info that Te’o had given them, but again — it’s odd that he never told a reporter that himself.) If there’s a kernel of truth to all this, though, which even his otherwise skeptical teammates seem to believe, then who was the girl he spoke with on the phone? The mastermind, allegedly, is Ronaiah Tuiasosopo, who’s been accused of telling hard-to-believe sob stories before, but either he had a female accomplice or Te’o really is the preternatural liar he’s suspected of being. Reagan Mauia, a fullback on the Arizona Cardinals, claims he met someone pretending to be Kekua in 2011. Was that the accomplice, or is Mauia lying on Te’o's behalf to try to get him off the hook?

Two exit questions for you to chew on. One: How is it that Te’o only discovered the hoax on December 6 when other people were talking about it on Twitter days earlier? Two: They’d known each other four years; they’d been dating for 11 months; Kekua had supposedly been in a car accident and then gotten leukemia — and Te’o never demanded to visit her? Ever?


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Wow. I thought people stopped pulling the “My girlfriend goes to another school,” trick in junior high.

alchemist19 on January 16, 2013 at 5:12 PM

One commenter on the site called it “Nosuch Dame.”

Ed Morrissey on January 16, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Deadspin is a Gawker product. I’ll pass.

Abby Adams on January 16, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Ten comments or bust.

Vince on January 16, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Not as big a hoax, apparently, as deciding Notre Dame actually belonged in the BCS Championship Game.

viking01 on January 16, 2013 at 5:19 PM

…so anyway…I’m sure the Detroit Lions will make him their first pick!

KOOLAID2 on January 16, 2013 at 5:21 PM

At least he has good taste in fake girlfriends…

d1carter on January 16, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Not as big a hoax, apparently, as deciding Notre Dame actually belonged in the BCS Championship Game.

viking01

So much this. I hope they’re never considered for any BCS games again until they grow a set and join a major conference.

Benaiah on January 16, 2013 at 5:22 PM

No national reporters got tipped about this before now? Even though Te’o was a star and Notre Dame — Notre Dame — was ranked number one?

It must be a Hawaii thing. Both Te’o & Obama never got journalists to go search their backgrounds.

portlandon on January 16, 2013 at 5:23 PM

I almost can’t believe this. How would you really expect to keep this going?

The sheer size of the pair on this guy for making this up is as impressive as the hoax itself.

John_Locke on January 16, 2013 at 5:24 PM

This kind of story leads to the same rabbit hole and feed those think that Sandy Hook was a inside job. If a person or group can fake a dead girlfriend the all powerful government can fake anything.

tjexcite on January 16, 2013 at 5:26 PM

portlandon on January 16, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Yup, beat me to it…

d1carter on January 16, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Well, Brian Manti’s trying to tell me that in addition to the number of girls in the Niagara Falls Silicon Valley area, that presently you and he are riding the hobby horse.”

CycloneCDB on January 16, 2013 at 5:27 PM

I’ll bet NBC got more yards with it than Notre Dame’s running game on January 7th.

viking01 on January 16, 2013 at 5:27 PM

The medical stuff – serious injuries, leukemia, bone marrow transplant – told me the story was bogus.

Blake on January 16, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Notre Dame coaches were informed by Manti Te’o and his parents that Manti had been the victim of what appears to be a hoax in which someone using the fictitious name Lennay Kekua apparently ingratiated herself with Manti and then conspired with others to lead him to believe she had tragically died of leukemia.

So this is Lennay (Lenny?).

sharrukin on January 16, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Ha, Obama’s still tops at making up girlfriends.

Barry’s #1! Barry’s #1!

Dusty on January 16, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Well, Brian Manti’s trying to tell me that in addition to the number of girls in the Niagara Falls Silicon Valley area, that presently you and he are riding the hobby horse.”

CycloneCDB on January 16, 2013 at 5:27 PM

So you’re saying he didn’t want Claire everyone to know he was virgin? interesting, and there’s probably a Tebow angle there too…

trubble on January 16, 2013 at 5:33 PM

I think something is wrong with this kid to try to make up such a story and pull it off. I would avoid him like the plague if I were an NFL GM.

rockmom on January 16, 2013 at 5:36 PM

So this is Lennay (Lenny?).

sharrukin on January 16, 2013 at 5:32 PM

No, that’s sesquipedalian.

Vince on January 16, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Update: Don’t care.

davidk on January 16, 2013 at 5:39 PM

This is nothing new. Check out “Kaycee Nicole” at Wikipedia.

Scopper on January 16, 2013 at 5:39 PM

So he also had a composite girlfriend…big deal
;-) ;-)

burrata on January 16, 2013 at 5:39 PM

No, that’s sesquipedalian.

Vince on January 16, 2013 at 5:37 PM

I thought he sounded familiar.

sharrukin on January 16, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Revrum’ Wrong could probably fix him up with someone special.

viking01 on January 16, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Isnt having a “girlfriend” a minor sin at a place like Notre Dame anyway?

/harharhar

Jeddite on January 16, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Wow, wow, this is a whole NEW level of SICK. I lost ALL respect for Manti Teo instantly. He is one sick demented F—, who needs to see a shrink, NOW.

Raquel Pinkbullet on January 16, 2013 at 5:46 PM

So this is Lennay (Lenny?).

wow! an actual picture of an IBM PC XT with dual drive and a dot matrix printer. and is that the kid from “A Christmas Story”?

btw A&M should have replayed Alabama in that game.

DanMan on January 16, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Remember, Notre Dame is the largest “catholic” university promoting pro-abortion mentors and speaker series.

crash72 on January 16, 2013 at 5:51 PM

He’ll make a great NY Jet

philw1776 on January 16, 2013 at 5:52 PM

This is another case of Munchausen by Internet.

And Teo is in need of immediate psychiatric care. What a sick thing he did. SICK, beyond words can describe.

Raquel Pinkbullet on January 16, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Timothy Burke and Jack Dickey need to dig into Benghazi and Fast and Furious.

TexAz on January 16, 2013 at 5:54 PM

btw A&M should have replayed Alabama in that game.

DanMan on January 16, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Agreed. Some could argue that the SEC Championship and the National Championship are now the same game.

viking01 on January 16, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Gee. I wish the media was as diligent about important stuff.

kim roy on January 16, 2013 at 5:54 PM

He’ll make a great NY Jet

philw1776 on January 16, 2013 at 5:52 PM

I’m thinking…Bengals or Raiders….

Raquel Pinkbullet on January 16, 2013 at 5:54 PM

He’ll make a great NY Jet

philw1776 on January 16, 2013 at 5:52 PM

I have a tattoo of T’eo’s girlfriend on my wife.

CycloneCDB on January 16, 2013 at 5:58 PM

No national reporters got tipped about this before now? Even though Te’o was a star and Notre Dame — Notre Dame — was ranked number one?
It must be a Hawaii thing. Both Te’o & Obama never got journalists to go search their backgrounds.

portlandon on January 16, 2013 at 5:23 PM

…there is no such thing as reporters or journalists anymore…so carry on!

KOOLAID2 on January 16, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Brent Musburger wants to know if it’s okay for him to talk about T’eo’s girlfriend.

CycloneCDB on January 16, 2013 at 5:59 PM

No way, no how Teo did not know this was a hoax.

How do you have a three year relationship with a hoax?

No one is that stupid.

Captain Kirock on January 16, 2013 at 6:03 PM

btw A&M should have replayed Alabama in that game.

DanMan on January 16, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Oregon run’s A&M’S offense better than A&M does and if Alabama couldn’t stop the poor man’s version of that offense then they couldn’t have stopped the real thing. Ducks would have flattened the Tide.

alchemist19 on January 16, 2013 at 6:04 PM

How many carjackings does one have to complete successfully to qualify for the NBA?

viking01 on January 16, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Every time I read another wistful “could have beaten the Tide” claim I’m reminded of the old saying:

“If your aunt had b*lls she’d be your uncle.”

It’s almost as sad as ESPN’s Ivan Maisel hinting “The refs did it.”

viking01 on January 16, 2013 at 6:08 PM

If he was talking about it even before then, back in, say, 2010, then maybe he … really was duped? Really?

The girl doesn’t exist. How could he have been duped into thinking that he met her?

TexasDan on January 16, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Wow.

MayBee on January 16, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Update: Te’o is on suicide-by-finger-gun watch.

Curtiss on January 16, 2013 at 6:13 PM

His new girlfriend is a model and lives in Canada.

ReaganWasRight on January 16, 2013 at 6:13 PM

I think he was just embarrassed because she ran off with Brent Musburger.

ReaganWasRight on January 16, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Thank God for the Mainstream Media’s legendary legion of fact-checkers.

MikeHu on January 16, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Not the first Hawaii “native” to make up a “composite” girlfriend. Is there something in the water there?

TXUS on January 16, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Pretty soon we will see him on Oprah expecting to be forgiven like LANCE

Raquel Pinkbullet on January 16, 2013 at 6:18 PM

FOR ALL THE CONFUSED PEOPLE … READ THE ACTUAL DEADSPIN ARTICLE AND YOU WILL REALIZE HOW MUCH OF A FRAUD THIS GUY IS

Raquel Pinkbullet on January 16, 2013 at 6:20 PM

Sounds like a psych experiment to see how much a person with exceptional skills in one area can get away with and still be accepted by the public.

AZfederalist on January 16, 2013 at 6:21 PM

I don’t come to HotGas for the entertainment and sports news. I’m guessing this is all just filler material until they can go back to 90% of the content being polls.

Spliff Menendez on January 16, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Sorry folks, but this REEKS of the Notre Dame athletic department. Remember, these f–kers changed the pronunciation of their QB’s name to rhyme with “Heisman.” Doing this differs only by degree, not substance.

My guess is we’ll hear this was done to hide the fact the Te’O is gay while playing at ND. He’ll come out, all will be forgiven, and we’ll all be made to feel bad for judging him about “a very painful decision.”

That’s the ONLY scenario that could get him out of this.

SAMinVA on January 16, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Update: Te’o is on suicide-by-finger-gun watch.

Curtiss on January 16, 2013 at 6:13 PM

He might hang himself with an imaginary belt.

Cicero43 on January 16, 2013 at 6:28 PM

His new girlfriend is a model and lives in Canada.

ReaganWasRight on January 16, 2013 at 6:13 PM

From the Niagara Falls area

The Notorious G.O.P on January 16, 2013 at 6:30 PM

I like Kekua on ice.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on January 16, 2013 at 6:30 PM

oh man Spliff, you too had to go there. The only thing more tedious than stories about polls to drive news near an election are stories about polls to drive news outside of elections. We’re either in 100% agreement or its 50-50.

DanMan on January 16, 2013 at 6:32 PM

Yeah, ’cause everyone on the internet uses their real picture…

Ronnie on January 16, 2013 at 6:34 PM

He vacationed with her–now she doesn’t exist! What a bunch of malarkey!!

Raquel Pinkbullet on January 16, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Bet they are really glad they gave the Heisman to Manziel now.

This is one bizarre story.

gophergirl on January 16, 2013 at 6:34 PM

How is this different from the hoax Obama plays on us daily that compels us to borrow $4 billion a day to care for us?

Paul-Cincy on January 16, 2013 at 6:36 PM

His new girlfriend is a model and lives in Canada.

ReaganWasRight on January 16, 2013 at 6:13 PM

A French model, he met her on the Internet.

AZfederalist on January 16, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Actually… this would have been the perfect egg on the Heisman voters’ face. Now I’m sorry he didn’t win it.

Yes, Manti-Te’o is the lesser of two Hawaiian frauds.

SAMinVA on January 16, 2013 at 6:39 PM

MANTI T’EO IS LYING!!!!!!
“They started out as just friends,” Te’o's father, Brian, told the Tribune in October 2012. “Every once in a while, she would travel to Hawaii, and that happened to be the time Manti was home, so he would meet with her there.”
Deadspin has the full story

Raquel Pinkbullet on January 16, 2013 at 6:40 PM

OMG! You know, when I heard this story I went to look for pics of her, assuming they’d accompany every article about Manti Te’o and his tragic story and couldn’t find any.

kit9 on January 16, 2013 at 6:41 PM

How do you have a three year relationship with a hoax?

No one is that stupid.

Captain Kirock on January 16, 2013 at 6:03 PM

obambi’s been in office for 4 years not 3.

VegasRick on January 16, 2013 at 6:46 PM

*insert joke about famous transparency of Catholic institutions here*

*insert joke about Catholics overly dramatizing things here*

*insert joke about Notre Dame fans being suckers for hype here*

*insert ROLL TIDE here*

Lawdawg86 on January 16, 2013 at 6:56 PM

What a pathological liar and a sick sick guy to create a lie to receive national attention and sympathy. If you want to get Manti Fakeo the benefit of a doubt and believe he is the victim here do not listen to this interview http://theoriginalwinger.com/2012-10-17-listen-to-this-manti-teos-interview-on-the-jim-rome-radio-show-mteo_5-via-jimrome

Raquel Pinkbullet on January 16, 2013 at 7:14 PM

FOR ALL THE CONFUSED PEOPLE … READ THE ACTUAL DEADSPIN ARTICLE AND YOU WILL REALIZE HOW MUCH OF A FRAUD THIS GUY IS

Raquel Pinkbullet on January 16, 2013 at 6:20 PM

Not only that, the Deadspin story shockingly looks like an example of fine investigative journalism. It’s worth a read just for that.

alchemist19 on January 16, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Manti Teo is Barack Obama 2.0. Most of Obozo’s autobiography is also a hoax.

sauldalinsky on January 16, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Hey. I don’t understand. Am I supposed to care about any of this?

BigAlSouth on January 16, 2013 at 7:22 PM

Not only that, the Deadspin story shockingly looks like an example of fine investigative journalism. It’s worth a read just for that.

alchemist19 on January 16, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Imagine what our country would look like if the current transcriptionists for the democrats, the MSM, actually engaged in such journalism instead of merely transcribing White House and DNC talking points.

AZfederalist on January 16, 2013 at 7:23 PM

Roll Tide.

stout77 on January 16, 2013 at 7:28 PM

Hey. I don’t understand. Am I supposed to care about any of this?

You must care if you took time to comment, no?

Allahpundit on January 16, 2013 at 7:43 PM

I think he was just embarrassed because she ran off with Brent Musburger.

ReaganWasRight on January 16, 2013 at 6:14 PM

ROTFLMAO!

Thread winner.

Sorry, but all my football attention is currently devoted to learning more about the start of the Marc Trestman era in Chicago. (whistling) Alouette, gentille Alouette…

JimLennon on January 16, 2013 at 7:47 PM

I think Manti was duped. He just didn’t want people to know he had never met the woman in real life. Doesn’t seem that hard for me to believe. Some people are really that gullible. I have read many stories about people falling for people online, never meeting them for years, but still adjusting their whole lives around this online person they think they’ll someday meet.

bluegill on January 16, 2013 at 7:47 PM

I like Kekua on ice.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on January 16, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Damn furriners and their fancy drinks!

:-)

Solaratov on January 16, 2013 at 7:57 PM

I think Manti was duped. He just didn’t want people to know he had never met the woman in real life. Doesn’t seem that hard for me to believe. Some people are really that gullible. I have read many stories about people falling for people online, never meeting them for years, but still adjusting their whole lives around this online person they think they’ll someday meet.

bluegill on January 16, 2013 at 7:47 PM

LOL! You can’t be serious. Manti had motive to lie. He wanted the press.

terryannonline on January 16, 2013 at 7:59 PM

One explanation is that he was both scammed and also repeatedly lied about the nature of the relationship to both his family and the press. He had what he thought was an online relationship – supplemented with a female voice over the telephone – while possessing sufficient self-awareness to know that a relationship in which you never actually meet the girl is kinda pathetic. So he fabricated the accounts of actually meeting, maybe figuring they’d eventually meet up anyway, so they weren’t really terrible lies.

But this explanation makes no sense because a star football player shouldn’t have trouble meeting real live girls.

So I never said it.

BCrago66 on January 16, 2013 at 8:01 PM

One explanation is that he was both scammed and also repeatedly lied about the nature of the relationship to both his family and the press. He had what he thought was an online relationship – supplemented with a female voice over the telephone – while possessing sufficient self-awareness to know that a relationship in which you never actually meet the girl is kinda pathetic. So he fabricated the accounts of actually meeting, maybe figuring they’d eventually meet up anyway, so they weren’t really terrible lies.
But this explanation makes no sense because a star football player shouldn’t have trouble meeting real live girls.
So I never said it.
BCrago66 on January 16, 2013 at 8:01 PM

I totally agree with this.

And, by the way, just because someone gets into an online relationship and believes the person to be real, it doesn’t mean they have trouble finding dates in real life. Football players are just regular people like anyone else.

bluegill on January 16, 2013 at 8:14 PM

One explanation is that he was both scammed and also repeatedly lied about the nature of the relationship to both his family and the press.

He’s a young college football I’m sure he would have no trouble getting a girlfriend. He made up this story to get press and votes for the Heisman

terryannonline on January 16, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Sadly, the poster who earlier alluded this may be the ND athletic department, may be right.

They have someone in contention for the Heisman, they need more “story” to sell their candidate and rolling out another movie from Hollyweird would be too obvious. (No offense to Ronaldus Magnus.)

Only a couple years ago Scam Newton was reputed to be a computer thief while attending then bounced from Florida, his father brazenly and unsuccessfully trying to con a contract from Mississippi State, then mysteriously ending up at Auburn where so much of Scam’s prior life was ignored by the NCAA (and Auburn’s now ex-coach) those few years ago.

viking01 on January 16, 2013 at 8:22 PM

He’s a young college football I’m sure he would have no trouble getting a girlfriend. He made up this story to get press and votes for the Heisman
terryannonline on January 16, 2013 at 8:17 PM

You are very wrong to assume that falling for someone online means the person has trouble finding a date in real life. This happens ALL THE TIME. Sometimes when the person is an imposter, they tell the other person everything that person wants to hear. It is a powerful thing.

bluegill on January 16, 2013 at 8:27 PM

terryannonline on January 16, 2013 at 8:17 PM

I am going to assume you are of an older generation. No offense intended. I understand why jt might be hard for some to understand. These days there is much less stigma surrounding online dating and hooking up. Online flirting does not equal inability to flirt or date in real life.

bluegill on January 16, 2013 at 8:30 PM

Wow, so many questions.

Why would he do this?
Who was involved?
Is he a cornball brother?

stout77 on January 16, 2013 at 8:35 PM

Well, it looks like that totally irrational desire I had for Notre Dame to get curbstomped by Alabama has retroactively been justified.

LukeinNE on January 16, 2013 at 8:39 PM

I am going to assume you are of an older generation. No offense intended. I understand why jt might be hard for some to understand. These days there is much less stigma surrounding online dating and hooking up. Online flirting does not equal inability to flirt or date in real life.

bluegill on January 16, 2013 at 8:30 PM

I’m 30 and single. I know about online dating. Usually online dating leads to an actual meet up. Why would a star football player settle for a “relationship” where he actually never meets the lady when he probably has plenty of young college chicks after him? And why would he go on and on in the press for someone he has never met!!!

terryannonline on January 16, 2013 at 8:40 PM

You are very wrong to assume that falling for someone online means the person has trouble finding a date in real life. This happens ALL THE TIME. Sometimes when the person is an imposter, they tell the other person everything that person wants to hear. It is a powerful thing.

bluegill on January 16, 2013 at 8:27 PM

…I think I know someone who has been burned EVERY time!…but hey! …she don’t like chit…chat…so I won’t assume anything and chit & chat about it.

KOOLAID2 on January 16, 2013 at 8:42 PM

I am so disappointed that it seems no one got my Niagara Falls reference. :(

The Notorious G.O.P on January 16, 2013 at 8:45 PM

I am going to assume you are of an older generation. No offense intended. I understand why jt might be hard for some to understand. These days there is much less stigma surrounding online dating and hooking up. Online flirting does not equal inability to flirt or date in real life.

bluegill on January 16, 2013 at 8:30 PM

I am going to assume that you live in a bubble and have no friends, so you don’t know when you’re being patronizing. No offense intended.

sauldalinsky on January 16, 2013 at 8:47 PM

Another seemingly too good to be true story reveals itself to be exactly that.

Sigh.

rukiddingme on January 16, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Why would a star football player settle for a “relationship” where he actually never meets the lady when he probably has plenty of young college chicks after him? And why would he go on and on in the press for someone he has never met!!!
terryannonline on January 16, 2013 at 8:40 PM

College football players are like anyone else. Him being a football star doesn’t mean much here.

I know two people this same thing happened to. One guy thought he was talking to an Asian girl for years online. The whole thing was so real and important to him. He always expected to meet the “girl”, just like Manti probably did. Turns out my friend had been corresponding with a middle aged gay black guy. And my friend is perfectly capable of finding dates in real life. Online romantic interaction is not the “last resort” you make it out to be.

Don’t underestimate the power of someone wanting to buy into things they want to hear. Even if they might doubt the story at times, part if them still wants to believe it.

Even if you or I wouldn’t fall for such a thing, many regular, perfectly attractive and otherwise intelligent people do. Many people are just very gullible! It’s crazy, but it is very, very common.

bluegill on January 16, 2013 at 8:52 PM

I know two people this same thing happened to. One guy thought he was talking to an Asian girl for years online. The whole thing was so real and important to him. He always expected to meet the “girl”, just like Manti probably did. Turns out my friend had been corresponding with a middle aged gay black guy. And my friend is perfectly capable of finding dates in real life. Online romantic interaction is not the “last resort” you make it out to be.

Don’t underestimate the power of someone wanting to buy into things they want to hear. Even if they might doubt the story at times, part if them still wants to believe it.

Even if you or I wouldn’t fall for such a thing, many regular, perfectly attractive and otherwise intelligent people do. Many people are just very gullible! It’s crazy, but it is very, very common.

bluegill on January 16, 2013 at 8:52 PM

And he just so happened to be duped about the time he was in contention for the Heisman. Interesting.

terryannonline on January 16, 2013 at 8:54 PM

A private investigative firm looked into it and found evidence that there were in fact conspirators who pulled off the hoax on Te’o. Phone calls, online interaction, and all of that were documented.

The only inconsistency that seems to come up is the question of their having “met.” The Notre Dame version is that young people use the word “met” regularly to discuss online meetings. Possibly it’s just that he was embarrassed and didn’t want to cop to the fact that he and his girlfriend had never actually met.

The knee-jerk responses above are amusing to read though, at the very least. “Niagara Falls” was what came to mind when I first saw it as well.

vitocorleone99 on January 16, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Haven’t any of you known anyone duped by a fake profile?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&spell=1&q=fake+profiles&sa=X&ei=n1r3UPrWAYWy2QXu4oDwCg&ved=0CCkQvwUoAA&biw=320&bih=504

Sounds like the guy who fooled Manti Teo knew exactly what to say to make him interested. Read the whole Deadspin piece.

bluegill on January 16, 2013 at 9:01 PM

These Te’o jokes are all very funny but let’s all try and remember that a person who never existed is dead.

Raquel Pinkbullet on January 16, 2013 at 9:03 PM

A private investigative firm looked into it and found evidence that there were in fact conspirators who pulled off the hoax on Te’o. Phone calls, online interaction, and all of that were documented.
The only inconsistency that seems to come up is the question of their having “met.” The Notre Dame version is that young people use the word “met” regularly to discuss online meetings. Possibly it’s just that he was embarrassed and didn’t want to cop to the fact that he and his girlfriend had never actually met.
The knee-jerk responses above are amusing to read though, at the very least. “Niagara Falls” was what came to mind when I first saw it as well.
vitocorleone99 on January 16, 2013 at 8:55 PM

EXACTLY!

It makes perfect sense.

Btw, people who first meet online often even make up stories to tell others when asked where they met.

I saw Manti in the interviews talking about this girl, and there is zero question in my mind he believed she was real. This is obviously very embarrassing for him, and I really feel for the guy.

bluegill on January 16, 2013 at 9:05 PM

A private investigative firm looked into it and found evidence that there were in fact conspirators who pulled off the hoax on Te’o. Phone calls, online interaction, and all of that were documented.

The only inconsistency that seems to come up is the question of their having “met.” The Notre Dame version is that young people use the word “met” regularly to discuss online meetings. Possibly it’s just that he was embarrassed and didn’t want to cop to the fact that he and his girlfriend had never actually met.

The knee-jerk responses above are amusing to read though, at the very least. “Niagara Falls” was what came to mind when I first saw it as well.

vitocorleone99 on January 16, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Nice try, but the conspirator was Manti Teo’s best friend! And did you listen to the interview he had with Jim Rome where he said he called her in the hospital, and that the doctors told him she couldn’t sleep and had to speak to him to sleep, and that they met after the Stanford game. Give me a break he was in on it 100%.

Raquel Pinkbullet on January 16, 2013 at 9:10 PM

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