Paul Ryan: We’re considering a short-term debt-ceiling extension

posted at 4:41 pm on January 17, 2013 by Allahpundit

Time to regroup?

“We’re discussing the possible virtue of a short-term debt limit extension so that we have a better chance of getting the Senate and the White House involved in discussions in March,” Ryan, R-Wis., revealed during an off-camera discussion with reporters tracking the retreat. “What we want to achieve at the end of the day is a two-way discussion between Democrats and Republicans and, out of that, hopefully, some progress being made on getting this deficit and debt under control – because we really do believe that our obligation is to help prevent a debt crisis from hitting this country.”

Ryan declined to detail the terms of a possible short-term extension, but said that given “the realities of divided government” challenging lawmakers, he hopes Republicans “achieve consensus on a plan to proceed so that we can make progress on controlling spending and deficits and debt.

“Our goal is to make sure that our members understand all of the deadlines that are coming, all the consequences of those deadlines that are coming, in order so that we can make a better-informed decision about how to move and how to proceed,” said Ryan, who was easily reelected to another term in the House.

Unless this is a simple ploy to buy time, because the caucus is so divided over what to demand as a price of raising the ceiling, I don’t see the point. The bit about approaching deadlines is clear enough — the debt-ceiling deadline could hit as early as next month, then the sequester takes effect in early March, then the current continuing resolution for federal spending expires in late March. Rather than have the big debt-ceiling fight in February and have to deal with the other crap a month later, they could postpone it for a few weeks and try to resolve all three issues together. But they could also resolve all three issues next month too. If they’re asking for extra time, it’s only because they’re not ready to formulate their “ask.” Or, maybe, Ryan’s thinking that by tying the debt ceiling to the continuing resolution, they can put extra pressure on Obama and Reid to finally finally finally propose a budget of their own. Byron York mentioned that as a possibility last week; one of the GOP’s biggest problems in the battle for public opinion on spending is finding a way to make gutless Democrats articulate their own unworkable plans for long-term solvency. It’s easy for Obama to reject Republican demands on spending as a condition for raising the debt ceiling as being “too draconian” or whatever but not so easy if the big GOP demand is simply asking Democrats to offer a plan of their own for sustainability. Case in point: Via Guy Benson, watch below as Jay Carney ducks a simple question at today’s briefing about how much higher Obama wants the debt ceiling raised. These people are deathly allergic to real accountability for their spending. Even their communications liaisons cease to function when they’re confronted on it.

In fact, read Keith Hennessey’s proposal for debt-ceiling negotiations at the Journal today. Not only is he okay with a short-term ceiling hike, he’s okay with multiple short-term ceiling hikes — provided that Obama is forced to ask for them repeatedly and that they pass the House with exclusively Democratic support, with House Republicans voting present. You’re not going to get major cuts during a second term of Hopenchange but there are things you can do to increase Democratic accountability and that’s one of them. I’d even double down on Hennessey’s idea by offering O a three-month debt ceiling hike any time he wants one provided that he makes the request publicly, in some sort of televised format, each and every time. If he and the left want to let the country burn, okay, but they have to let the public know who’s holding the matches.


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This thread needs a tune.

Bmore on January 17, 2013 at 5:44 PM

And if you haven’t been paying attention, this is why the liberals savagely attacked Sarah Palin.

She, and what she represents, is kryptonite to the liberal agenda.

BobMbx on January 17, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Not to mention the cromy beltway establishment, cocktail party, go along to get along, scum.

idesign on January 17, 2013 at 5:44 PM

LaughterJones on January 17, 2013 at 5:31 PM

**Guffaw**

Tim_CA on January 17, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

gwelf on January 17, 2013 at 5:46 PM

I skipped to the comments after the opening about expecting to negotiate with the WH and senate. Pretty the cliff notes version is this is not another hill to fight for. Why doesn’t the NE GOP tribe just go ahead and join the dems and take Boehner with them?

DanMan on January 17, 2013 at 5:46 PM

The nation’s last best chance was 2010 and the Tea Party momentum.

The GOP fossils simply said thanks for two more years to do nothing besides blaming the Tea Party rather than Zero.

viking01 on January 17, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

gwelf on January 17, 2013 at 5:46 PM

lol….True conservatives don’t run away from fights.

But thanks for the offer.

Tim_CA on January 17, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

gwelf on January 17, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Not fair! That’s the third time this week someone told him that. I want one,except I want mine to read, ” Don’t let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya! ” Okay?

Bmore on January 17, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Why take a stand against Obama and Reid now when most of the public would be either to ungrateful or dumb to even comprehend what the GOP is fighting for?

Doughboy on January 17, 2013 at 5:02 PM

When was the last time the GOP took a stand, a genuine one, on anything important?

FloatingRock on January 17, 2013 at 5:49 PM

… and seeing obama with those kids yesterday had me day dreaming of an anti-obama commercial that shows a line of kids fading into the distance, approaching King Obama one by one, and Obama asking the Jester as each approaches, “Poverty or Death?” – sometimes the answer is “Death” to which the kid falls to the ground, and is flung onto a growing pile on one side of the room, or if the answer is “Poverty”, the kid is lifted upside down so the money falls out of his pockets and is shoveled into a pile on the other side of the room.

Meanwhile a voice-over and super-imposed graphics would list details about the number of abortions that occur every year (what % of total kids that would’ve been born are aborted, and how much debt is being stolen from future generations by this insane spending.

hmm…

Midas on January 17, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Rand Paul sure does email me a lot.

Bmore on January 17, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Why take a stand against Obama and Reid now when most of the public would be either to ungrateful or dumb to even comprehend what the GOP is fighting for?

Doughboy on January 17, 2013 at 5:02 PM

I agreed with everything you said until the end. I didn’t get as mad about the fiscal deal as I did about the Sandy pork barrel. If that bill had to pass with 55% of the spending not related to Sandy then tell us why. As it is it is the same thing we’ve been putting up with since Dennis Hastert ran the house.

I have yet to hear any repub defend that bill other than by stating that’s what they did for Katrina, etc.

DanMan on January 17, 2013 at 5:52 PM

That’s the third time this week someone told him that.

Bmore on January 17, 2013 at 5:49 PM

lol…and my answer’s always the same.

Tim_CA on January 17, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Why take a stand against Obama and Reid now when most of the public would be either to ungrateful or dumb to even comprehend what the GOP is fighting for?

Doughboy on January 17, 2013 at 5:02 PM

When Republicans controlled every branch of government, what did they stand for?

FloatingRock on January 17, 2013 at 5:54 PM

“What we want to achieve at the end of the day is a two-way discussion between Democrats and Republicans and, out of that, hopefully, some progress being made on getting this deficit and debt under control – because we really do believe that our obligation is to help prevent a debt crisis from hitting this country.”

Sweetie, you guys are not only on different pages with the dems, you ain’t even in the same country.

arnold ziffel on January 17, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Jan 17, 2013 5:49 p…I agree with Floating Rock. hey Rock, did you catch where I gave Dante kudos the other night? It was right after that Sandy porkfest. He wasn’t around to see it so let him know.

DanMan on January 17, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Starting to snow.

Bmore on January 17, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Paul Ryan: We’re considering a short-term debt-ceiling extension

…how many times in the last four years have they claimed…this is THE LAST TIME we are kicking the can down the road?

KOOLAID2 on January 17, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Doughboy on January 17, 2013 at 5:02 PM

It was when Republicans controlled every branch of government that the housing and debt bubbles ballooned. Bush was less guilty than Republicans and Democrats in Congress, but it was under their collective watch that the mortgages were financialized and turned into junk commodities so difficult to unravel because it’s a system based on corruption rather than logic and good sense. That corruption is one of the last times the GOP stood for anything.

FloatingRock on January 17, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Bill Frisk was terrible.

Bmore on January 17, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Barry to the Pubs: “Look, cow, we’ll talk about your grazing rights later. Right now I have a business appointment with the butcher.”

Pubs to Barry. “Moo”

Limerick on January 17, 2013 at 6:04 PM

NRA Party NOW !!!

Mr. Arrogant on January 17, 2013 at 6:04 PM

One of the last times the GOP stood for something, they stood for amnesty for illegal aliens, and it took a massive, sustained effort to stop them.

FloatingRock on January 17, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Starting to snow.

Bmore on January 17, 2013 at 6:01 PM

I hate snow.

(unless ski’s and alcohol are involved)

Tim_CA on January 17, 2013 at 6:08 PM

how many times in the last four years have they claimed…this is THE LAST TIME we are kicking the can down the road?
KOOLAID2 on January 17, 2013 at 6:01 PM

How many times in the last 30 years?

LegendHasIt on January 17, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Hey! Where did all the Establishment types go?

Bmore on January 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Hey! Where did all the Establishment types go?

Bmore on January 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM

To get more talking points from their masters….they’ll be back.

Tim_CA on January 17, 2013 at 6:17 PM

If only the GOP would fight for Cut, Cap and Balance as hard as they did amnesty for illegal aliens.

FloatingRock on January 17, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Here they go again.

Obama says, “I will not negotiate on the debt ceiling.”

Republicans respond, “We’re working on a deal.”

Apparently, they are negotiating with themselves. Again.

This is becoming nauseating.

IndieDogg on January 17, 2013 at 6:20 PM

Based on your name I’m sure your okay with Barry not being serious about negotiating.

Illinidiva on January 17, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Satisfied with scraps.

Speakup on January 17, 2013 at 6:38 PM

If Obama won’t negotiate then don’t increase the debt ceiling. Obama can “pay the bills” by increasing revenue or decreasing spending. That’s what needs to be done. Republicans should just get out of the way, IMO, and let Obama and the Democrats self-destruct as their precious, precious government lucre shrivels up and slips through their fingers. Obama says he won’t negotiate? I think he will. If he remains obstinate then he’ll just have to learn how to get by spending 40% less of other peoples money, (in this case the future earnings of children and the unborn). If he’s a good boy and eats his pees and carrots balances his budget then maybe we’ll give the credit card back if he promises to be a good boy and not use it unless there’s a real emergency.

FloatingRock on January 17, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Satisfied with scraps.

Speakup on January 17, 2013 at 6:38 PM

…had to do it!

KOOLAID2 on January 17, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Hey Obama, If you don’t eat your meat, you can’t have any pudding? How can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat?

FloatingRock on January 17, 2013 at 6:56 PM

First ? above should have been a !

FloatingRock on January 17, 2013 at 6:57 PM

WHY? If odumbo is cutting the deficit and cutting costs why in the world do we need to increase the debt level. Beyond that, why even refer to it as a ceiling!

rjoco1 on January 17, 2013 at 6:59 PM

To get more talking points from their masters….they’ll be back.

Tim_CA on January 17, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Maybe King Zero’s part of the compromise is to take one less $4 million vacation this year. I’ve got the talking points all ready for Ryan: “We’ve achieved substantial, meaningful cuts by the executive branch. They’ve agreed to suspend an adequate amount of discretionary, respites in the coming months.”

LaughterJones on January 17, 2013 at 7:01 PM

I hope when they kick the can on the debt ceiling, you GOP faithful finally make the leap with me and ditch these traitors. Third party. No more “lesser of two evils”. Teach them a lesson.

Decoski on January 17, 2013 at 7:18 PM

The GOP caves so often you think it would be buried alive!

redware on January 17, 2013 at 7:22 PM

Just when you thought the GOP couldn’t alienate you any further. Lol!

Bmore on January 17, 2013 at 7:36 PM

I am not sure Ryan would show his hand yet. But a detailed schedule with all the cuts made ahead of the debt ceiling raise is how it has to be, not afterward, Obama and the democrats don’t do things “after.”

Fleuries on January 17, 2013 at 7:48 PM

Typical…kick the can down the road every chance you get. Goofy fks.

Sumrica on January 17, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Pull your head out of your ass then. If they are absolutely going to refuse to not raise the debt ceiling, then they aren’t going to raise it in little tiny increments either. Asking them to raise it in small increments makes even less sense than demanding that they not raise it. Because it sends the signal that you are either to stupid to understand what is going on, or that you agree with what they are doing. There is no in between in their world. You either agree or you disagree with what they are doing, if you agree, it is never conditional, it all the way.

SWalker on January 17, 2013 at 5:33 PM

LOL, isn’t what I just said what Paul Ryan, someone I have no love for, just suggested they WILL do at least once… A short term debt ceiling extension.

OMG, yes, yes it is. Why, you would almost think that I am prescient, except, well, I just took what he proposed to do and expanded it a little bit.

You are going to need more towels to get that egg off!

astonerii on January 17, 2013 at 8:03 PM

COWARDS.

fossten on January 17, 2013 at 8:04 PM

short-term debt-ceiling extension

Who the hell believes that?

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 17, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Yep, impotence is rampant in DC…The House controls the nation’s purse. PERIOD…There is NO reason to have a Continuing Resolution style Debt Ceiling agreement…

Here ya go, Bmore…

Gohawgs on January 17, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Eliminate the debt ceiling permanently.

It would take away the Dems’ ability to use it as a wedge issue.

fossten on January 17, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Eliminate the debt ceiling permanently.

It would take away the Dems’ ability to use it as a wedge issue.

fossten

Dumbest argument ever.

xblade on January 17, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Dumbest argument ever.

xblade on January 17, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Not really, but thanks for trying.

fossten on January 17, 2013 at 8:58 PM

It probably doesn’t matter. I think that’s a big reason we’re all so frustrated right now. I alternate between being PO’d at the GOP for their lack of stones and totally understanding their hesitancy in forcing Obama’s hand on spending via either a government shutdown or blocking a debt ceiling hike.

The real problem isn’t Obama. It isn’t the Democrat Party. And it isn’t the cowardly GOP leadership. It’s the people. They’re the ones who reelected the folks who refused to pass a budget for 4 years, rammed socialized medicine down the nation’s throat, and racked up $6 trillion in debt in a single Presidential term. Hell, over 3/4 of working Americans just got slammed with a tax hike that most of them had no clue was coming. Yet I haven’t seen a single poll yet that shows Obama or his party taking a huge PR hit with voters.

Until that slight majority of the electorate gets its collective you-know-what together and learns the concepts of basic economics and math, we’re stuck with the government they’ve saddled us with(at least at the federal level). And it’s here where I sympathize with the House and Senate Republicans. Why take a stand against Obama and Reid now when most of the public would be either to ungrateful or dumb to even comprehend what the GOP is fighting for?

When will conservatives do anything? I say all conservatives should do 2 things–make sure you have plenty of guns and ammo and then pull all of your money out of the market. Make it tank and make the takers hurt. Until the takers feel the pain nothing will change. I’ve already done it. Until more conservatives do this, expect the same ole caca.

texasmagnolia on January 17, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Paul Ryan is a CRIMINAL….as is every member of Congress and President Obama:

U.S. Federal LAW, the same law these politicians swore an oath to uphold, mandates that Congress/the Federal Govt pass an annual Budget EVERY YEAR. They have BROKEN THE LAW FOR 3+ YEARS NOW…MAKING THEM CRIMINALS!

The Constitution states that CONGRESS, not the President, is the ONLY ones who can raise the debt ceiling….

SO ENOUGH IS ENOUH! Ryan, Boehner, & the rest of the GOP need to MAN UP, find their moral & ethical integrity, own up to the oath they swore, & adhere to their LEGAL obligation to enforce the law BY PASSING A BUDGET….BEFORE ANY DEBT CEILING NEGOTIATIONS OCCUR!

Based on the above FACTS, right now CRIMINALS (Congress & the President) are complaining about CRIMINALS & INSANE PEOPLE breaking the law to kill LAW ABIDING CITIZENS and are bypassing Congress to pass Executive Orders & laws (states) that will only effect LAW ABIDING CITIZENS in hopes tha tthe CRIMINALS & INSANE PEOPLE who have been ignoring previously existing laws will suddenly begin to respect & obey these NEW laws…NOW, THAT IS INSANE!

CONGRESS/OBAMA ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW; HOWEVER, THEY HAVE BROKEN THE LAW FOR 3 YEARS & CONTINUE TO DO SO…WHILE DISCUSSING ADDING TRILLIONS MORE TO OUR DEBT!

PAULD RYAN / GOP, OBEY THE D@MN LAW 1ST – OBEY THE LAW & PASS A BUDGET….BEFORE ANY DEBT CEILING NEGOTIATIONS ARE ALLOWED TO PROCEED!

Obeying the law is not a BARGAINING CHIP or an issue with which to blackmail the President in exchange for raising the debt limit! Before another D@Mn dollar of hard-earned U.S. tax dollars is wasted by this CRIMINAL CONGRESS/PRESIDENT, they need to OBEY this nation’s laws & pass a budget, thereby showing us all EXACTLY where they intend to spend our money!

easyt65 on January 17, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Why is the GOP willing to compromise? Stop the spending. Ryan if you cave here, your 2016 chances are DONE. No more debt ceiling increases.

Question: What is the point of having a debt ceiling if it can be arbitrarily raised at any time?

nazo311 on January 17, 2013 at 9:21 PM

If you are not there to fight go home.

Worthless

C-Low on January 17, 2013 at 11:53 PM

Is this BS going to go on for four more years? We went through this charade at the end of 2012. Congress needs to stop this insane worrying already about the elections of 14 & 16. Congress continues to be deaf and dumb to logic. Maybe Congress should ask the twenty three thousand staff members appointed by them for some answers. Google (number of staff for congress) unbelievable.

mixplix on January 18, 2013 at 5:58 AM

Think we can go 7 straight years without a budget? it would be hilarious if it wasn’t derelictio. of duty and treasonous. alas, the democrats have made the USA into a tin pot dictatorship.

tom daschle concerned on January 18, 2013 at 6:05 AM

What else is new?
There is NOTHING worst then a wet noodle republican, my god you guys are WEAK!!
Led by your always crying Speaker.
Just shut up already Paul, i don’t like you anymore.

mmcnamer1 on January 18, 2013 at 6:33 AM

You assume that blowing up the GOP is a bad thing.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Actually, no. I think the infrastructure and name is worth saving ONLY if the tea party and conservatives and Ronulans can take it over…. Platypus on January 17, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Naw, a new party. Then the left can’t blame you for everything the GOP did or failed to do.

Don L on January 18, 2013 at 8:08 AM

But where oh where is our savior, Oromney in all of this? Did his gallant white horse make a wrong turn at an Etch-a-sketch sale?

Don L on January 18, 2013 at 8:18 AM

Remember how Bush had playing cards made on all the Taliban leaders in Iraq and Afghanistan? I think it is time to have a similar deck of all Congress members to send them a little hint. Perhaps they will start operating and voting in America’s best interests instead of their own.

trs on January 18, 2013 at 8:32 AM

This is beyond fvcking ridiculous.

At what point do our leaders stop acting like Wile E. Coyote, draw a real line in the sand, and say “nope, we’re done – it’s on you, O’Butthead”

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on January 18, 2013 at 8:59 AM

But where oh where is our savior, Oromney in all of this? Did his gallant white horse make a wrong turn at an Etch-a-sketch sale?

Don L on January 18, 2013 at 8:18 AM

He was never the “savior” – he was the 4th or 5th choice in a field of flawed candidates who was deemed the “most electable” in a flawed (or rigged, if you prefer) campaign process. He was there to stop the bleeding caused by 4 years of a radical Marxist and hopefully buy some time for true conservatives to take hold of its party – while it was in a position of power, not still having to “compromise” (read: cave at every turn).

So here we are.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on January 18, 2013 at 9:10 AM

This is the Dingy Harry plan, kick the can down the road and three months later crank up the crisis again. Why the hell do you think the Senate will not pass a budget. Republicans have to learn not to take advice from their enemies. After the House passed that pork barrel bill for Sandy recovery, it looks like the 113th congress is just a repeat of the last one. Spend and spend with no end in sight.

savage24 on January 18, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Ryan declined to detail the terms of a possible short-term extension, but said that given “the realities of divided government” challenging lawmakers, he hopes Republicans “achieve consensus on a plan to proceed so that we can make progress on controlling spending and deficits and debt.

Note the language at the end of the Ryan statement. “controlling spending…..? Very weak Washington speak for the status quo. He can’t even utter, “cut spending!” Even Hensarling seems to have joined the Boehner, Ryan and Cantor fraidy-cat, establishment team. There are events to come which may make it possible to throw all these bums out in the next election cycle.

tomshup on January 18, 2013 at 10:13 AM

No one in the GOP has the brains God gave them. I am starting to loathe ALL politicians and their self-aggrandizing, elitist, attitudes. The GOP is the greatest argument for term limits I have ever seen.

ultracon on January 18, 2013 at 1:37 PM

to quote Winnie the Pooh “Oh, Bother”

dmart81 on January 18, 2013 at 7:22 PM

The Irrelevants caved…

House Republicans plan to vote Jan. 23 on a three-month extension of U.S. borrowing authority in an effort to force the Democratic-led Senate to adopt a budget plan.

voiceofreason on January 18, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Can any of these (so called men) even get it up anymore?
What a bunch of wet noodles…

mmcnamer1 on January 19, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Who cares about the debt ceiling? Have you seen Michelle’s new hairdo? What designer is she going to wear? These issues are the important ones of our time…by the way, Lady Gaga is playing at the inaugural! I have called all my friends on my Obama phone to let them know!

mark cantu on January 20, 2013 at 7:18 AM

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