Paul Ryan: We’re considering a short-term debt-ceiling extension

posted at 4:41 pm on January 17, 2013 by Allahpundit

Time to regroup?

“We’re discussing the possible virtue of a short-term debt limit extension so that we have a better chance of getting the Senate and the White House involved in discussions in March,” Ryan, R-Wis., revealed during an off-camera discussion with reporters tracking the retreat. “What we want to achieve at the end of the day is a two-way discussion between Democrats and Republicans and, out of that, hopefully, some progress being made on getting this deficit and debt under control – because we really do believe that our obligation is to help prevent a debt crisis from hitting this country.”

Ryan declined to detail the terms of a possible short-term extension, but said that given “the realities of divided government” challenging lawmakers, he hopes Republicans “achieve consensus on a plan to proceed so that we can make progress on controlling spending and deficits and debt.

“Our goal is to make sure that our members understand all of the deadlines that are coming, all the consequences of those deadlines that are coming, in order so that we can make a better-informed decision about how to move and how to proceed,” said Ryan, who was easily reelected to another term in the House.

Unless this is a simple ploy to buy time, because the caucus is so divided over what to demand as a price of raising the ceiling, I don’t see the point. The bit about approaching deadlines is clear enough — the debt-ceiling deadline could hit as early as next month, then the sequester takes effect in early March, then the current continuing resolution for federal spending expires in late March. Rather than have the big debt-ceiling fight in February and have to deal with the other crap a month later, they could postpone it for a few weeks and try to resolve all three issues together. But they could also resolve all three issues next month too. If they’re asking for extra time, it’s only because they’re not ready to formulate their “ask.” Or, maybe, Ryan’s thinking that by tying the debt ceiling to the continuing resolution, they can put extra pressure on Obama and Reid to finally finally finally propose a budget of their own. Byron York mentioned that as a possibility last week; one of the GOP’s biggest problems in the battle for public opinion on spending is finding a way to make gutless Democrats articulate their own unworkable plans for long-term solvency. It’s easy for Obama to reject Republican demands on spending as a condition for raising the debt ceiling as being “too draconian” or whatever but not so easy if the big GOP demand is simply asking Democrats to offer a plan of their own for sustainability. Case in point: Via Guy Benson, watch below as Jay Carney ducks a simple question at today’s briefing about how much higher Obama wants the debt ceiling raised. These people are deathly allergic to real accountability for their spending. Even their communications liaisons cease to function when they’re confronted on it.

In fact, read Keith Hennessey’s proposal for debt-ceiling negotiations at the Journal today. Not only is he okay with a short-term ceiling hike, he’s okay with multiple short-term ceiling hikes — provided that Obama is forced to ask for them repeatedly and that they pass the House with exclusively Democratic support, with House Republicans voting present. You’re not going to get major cuts during a second term of Hopenchange but there are things you can do to increase Democratic accountability and that’s one of them. I’d even double down on Hennessey’s idea by offering O a three-month debt ceiling hike any time he wants one provided that he makes the request publicly, in some sort of televised format, each and every time. If he and the left want to let the country burn, okay, but they have to let the public know who’s holding the matches.


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c-ya

however, dear leader is not going to let him go…no way no how

cmsinaz on May 20, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Many Holder supporters view him as a proxy of sorts for the president,

Many? Or all six of them?

KingGold on May 20, 2013 at 8:44 PM

The corrupt Democrat Whisperer..

Electrongod on May 20, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Unless he wants to go, he’s not going. Neither of these historical men will be put out of office. Besides, like Rush said this afternoon, Holder knows where all the bodies are buried in the Clinton and Obama administrations.

Cindy Munford on May 20, 2013 at 8:44 PM

*On camera, with puppy dog eyes, lower lip sticking out* It`s so hard being a black man in America, but if you want me to go-”

“No, no! Please stay! Sorry, we know we`re being insensitive. Water under the bridge!”

ThePrez on May 20, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Holder will be for Obama what Rumsfeld was for Bush… someone who should have been replaced immediately after reelection.

ninjapirate on May 20, 2013 at 8:47 PM

If Holder goes, who becomes conservatives’ new least favorite cabinet member? Kerry or Hagel?

Sebelius?

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Fast and Furious did not involve the president, so who do you focus on? The attorney general,” D.C. Delegate to Congress Eleanor Holmes Norton said. “He’s taking the flak for the president.”…

Yeah and pigs can fly.

bgibbs1000 on May 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM

“Experienced Democrats” whispering that it might be time for Holder to go.

What they should be whispering is……..

“Experienced Democrats” whispering that it might be time for Holder Obama to go.

PappyD61 on May 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM

If Holder goes, who becomes conservatives’ new least favorite cabinet member? Kerry or Hagel?

Sebelius!

Rovin on May 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM

HOLDER=JAIL

TX-96 on May 20, 2013 at 8:49 PM

To jail, yes.

rbj on May 20, 2013 at 8:50 PM

scapegoating Holder for Obama’s anti-leak practices might help liberal O-bots resolve the cognitive dissonance between their idealized view of the Unicorn Prince as a champion of good government and the unpleasant daily reality. Blame Holder, boot him out, and then they can gaze once again at O as the fantasy president they wished he was.

Why you are the one and only AP.

You will be audited.

Holder needs to go to prison.

The dam hasn’t even cracked, yet. It’s just now beginning to get interesting.

The CYA is not done, by fare. Scapegoating them was NOT a good idea.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 8:51 PM

If Holder goes, who becomes conservatives’ new least favorite cabinet member? Kerry or Hagel?

S/b the two scumhags and capos of the admin: Sibelius and Napolitano.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Weiner/Holder — 2016

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 8:53 PM

If ditching Holder won’t really hurt Obama, then I want Holder staying on. Once he’s gone, he becomes a non-player despite him having more baggage lying around than JFK airport at Thankgsgiving. If Holder goes, the Dems will say, “You got your pound of flesh; he’s no longer in government. He’s irrelevant and you’re still on a witch hunt.”

If Obama’s past is any indicator, he’ll tell everyone pushing for Holder’s resignation to get stuffed. Obama is likely to double-down just to prove no one can make him do anything.

I also don’t want any backroom deals where Holder is ‘sacrificed’ to get support for amnesty. The issues aren’t related, and we don’t want amnesty anyway. I hope the Pubs aren’t going to do this to our country again.

Liam on May 20, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Holder knows everything and has faithfully been doing Barry’s and Valerie Jarrett’s dirtywork. He ain’t going nowhere. Obama will go before Holder goes. If Holder gets angry and spills his guts, it’s going to be a very bad day for the president and his henchwoman.

Philly on May 20, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Valerie Jarrett…

d1carter on May 20, 2013 at 8:54 PM

It is long since past the time Holder should have gone….

His “gutsy” move to come to the aid of the New Black Panther Party after their 2008 voter intimidation conviction in Philly would have driven any other Attorney General from DC…on a rail.

But, Holder is three things…a friend/worshipper of Obama; Black, therefore historic or something; and a shameless hater of whites…well, conservative American whites.

So, the Left, the progressives, will defends him to the death…unless they get new marching orders. [There is a classic episode of the original Twilight Zone that addressed this sort of thing...when the Left determines that Holder is obsolete...]

For now…Holder, just as Obama…will skate.

coldwarrior on May 20, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Two more Fox reporters listed as co-conspirators.
But the press will never let it get to the general public.
And there are too many dems in the senate for there to be real justice.
No the Republicans focus should be on dramatizing and personalizing the scandals so that the American public associates the Democratic party will abuse of power.

Iblis on May 20, 2013 at 8:55 PM

but pushing Holder out might hand the GOP a base-pleasing “victory” that they could then use for cover in making a deal on amnesty.

So the anti-American thug has to go in order for 20 million
non-American cholos and jihadies to get on welfare legally ?
Is that what the Eightidiots are “debating” ?

burrata on May 20, 2013 at 8:56 PM

You know what…there seems to be a pattern developing here…

d1carter on May 20, 2013 at 8:56 PM

holder ain’t going anywhere, he has complete confidence in him

cmsinaz on May 20, 2013 at 8:57 PM

where he prosecuted many a Chicago sleazebag (including Democrats George Ryan and Rod Blagojevich)

George Ryan is a Republican.

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Exit question: Have any reporters followed up yet on Holder’s absurd non-explanation for why he didn’t issue a written recusal in the AP investigation? Kind of important to do so, right?

holder doesn’t know anything.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/05/16/eric-holder-just-doesnt-know-n1598543

VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Holder go?

That would be like Al Capone losing Frank Nitti.

VorDaj on May 20, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Holder was just doing what Obama wanted.

Dusty on May 20, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Sebelius!

Rovin on May 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Beat me to it.

I’d love nothing more than to toss that Frank Burns-looking, fake-Catholic prog right out on the smug stick-up her arse she conducts herself with.

budfox on May 20, 2013 at 8:59 PM

“Experienced Democrats” whispering that it might be time for Holder to go

Will never happen — and he can be accountable for no crime … that would be racist, don’t you know?

/Leftist indoctrination and incompetence and incineration of independents insurance policy

ShainS on May 20, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Who will replace him, though? Well, how about … Fitz! It was Bush who made him a U.S. Attorney, where he prosecuted many a Chicago sleazebag (including Democrats George Ryan and Rod Blagojevich), but he’s most famous of course for the Plame investigation and prosecution of Scooter Libby. Republicans won’t make too much of a stink about that lest they be seen defending Dubya’s administration and Democrats won’t make much of a stink about Fitzgerald because they’ll be exceptionally eager to finally turn the page on this mess.

Do they really want someone at Justice who knows where the Chicago bodies are buried? Rahm Emanuel and turned out to be not loyal enough to Team O to stay around — given all the scandals, do they want another non-syncopate with the power to control investigations and who knows how the game has been played in the Windy City. Sounds like a future Archibald Cox v2.0 set-up for Obama if the scandals keep dripping out.

jon1979 on May 20, 2013 at 9:00 PM

but pushing Holder out might hand the GOP a base-pleasing “victory” that they could then use for cover in making a deal on amnesty.

dand squishy gop will fall for it too…

*shaking the head*

cmsinaz on May 20, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Holder was just doing what Obama wanted.

Dusty on May 20, 2013 at 8:59 PM

Are you sure? Maybe he simply fell victim to more of those rogue, low-level workers that are so prevalent and powerful in government these days. /

Liam on May 20, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Hagel and Kerry are two dumb toads. No one is scared of them.

Sebelius/Holder/Napolitano are Obama’s capos.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 9:04 PM

If Holder goes, who becomes conservatives’ new least favorite cabinet member? Kerry or Hagel?

I don’t know who it will be, but I know who it should be:
Kathleen Sebelius.

BKeyser on May 20, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Let’s not forget Holder worked for the previous Democrat pResidency.

Just sayin’.

Del Dolemonte on May 20, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Unfortunately he would be replaced with Deval Patrick who would be even worse….the GOP would rubber stamp him so as not to be called racists and probably give away the farm for good measure….

Caseoftheblues on May 20, 2013 at 9:12 PM

If Holder goes, who becomes conservatives’ new least favorite cabinet member? Kerry or Hagel?

Wait, you mean it hasn’t been Napolitano all this time? I’m honestly stunned. I mean, Holder is a corrupt mean-spirited incompetent. Napolitano is a butch corrupt mean-spirited troll overseeing the routine molestation of private travelers.

As for “Endgame?” It isn’t the endgame even if Holder goes. Not even the beginning of the endgame. It would be, perhaps, the end of the beginning-game.

Gingotts on May 20, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Given the absolute top-to-bottom corruption of this administration and the executive branch, whether Holder goes or not is sort of… irrelevant.

Personally, would prefer to see him hang on to the bitter end, self-recused and professedly ignorant of everything, whispered and murmured about, and– one can hope– outflanked by a couple of special prosecutors.

de rigueur on May 20, 2013 at 9:14 PM

I don’t think so.

Holder is a firewall. He’s already been held in contempt of Congress, so there isn’t much left they can do to him. Even if that contempt citation goes against hm, and it likely will, it is a civil matter and he doesn’t face jail time unless he defies a court order to respond fully to the supoenas.

He has also proven himself willing to engage in just about any kind of illegality in the service of Obama. Tools like that aren’t so easy to find.

Obama can’t afford a glory hound or even just a competent & semi-ethical lawyer to take Holder’s place. If Holder goes, look for some unknown but confirmable milquetoast with a clean record that will dither for the balance of Barry’s term.

novaculus on May 20, 2013 at 9:15 PM

I sincerely hope they mean to Hell.

SickofLibs on May 20, 2013 at 9:16 PM

I sincerely hope they mean to Hell.

SickofLibs on May 20, 2013 at 9:16 PM

or jail. That would be nice.

VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Sebelius!

Rovin on May 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Why the long face?

slickwillie2001 on May 20, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Sebelius!

Rovin on May 20, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Beat me to it.

I’d love nothing more than to toss that Frank Burns-looking, fake-Catholic prog right out on the smug stick-up her arse she conducts herself with.

budfox on May 20, 2013 at 8:59 PM

How can you be mad at someone who wears gosnel fabric shoes and bone jewelry?

acyl72 on May 20, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Since it is the Department of Jihad,
let’s get Loogie Fairy Khan as AG already……
and get it over with

burrata on May 20, 2013 at 9:25 PM

If Holder goes, who becomes conservatives’ new least favorite cabinet member? Kerry or Hagel?

Clearly Napolitano.

jimver on May 20, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Blagojevich is a Democrat but George Ryan is a Republican. Oh well — only makes the bipartisan case for confirming Fitz more compelling.

So Fitz basically has been persecuting Obama’s enemies in Sh**cago ? WOW !!!

burrata on May 20, 2013 at 9:34 PM

How about this one? Holder has perverted the whole idea and system of justice. He is a partisan ideologue who contorts law into an unrecognizable shape.

onlineanalyst on May 20, 2013 at 9:49 PM

As for Holder, you already know the problems with replacing him — arguably it fuels the fire of scandalmania rather than dousing the flames, and it gives Obama a new problem in trying to find a replacement who’s acceptable to both sides.

You mean those who confirmed Kerry and Brennan? Those sides? The question is, who could Obama nominate that they wouldn’t confirm? OK, Susan Rice, but name someone else.

AZfederalist on May 20, 2013 at 9:51 PM

The only way Holder goes before The One leaves office (assuming The One ever intends to) is if he has a pre-signed Presidential Pardon in his pocket. Otherwise, things he knows, and could testify about to Congress to save his own a$$, could and would sink the Messiah.

He was Clinton’s point man on attacking the Second Amendment, and ran Fast & Furious as The One’s point man on the same thing. Add in that DOJ probably knows more about exactly who, and what, is crossing the Mexico U.S. border every day (that The One just doesn’t want to deal with- “undocumented voters” are his DREAM, drug gangs, slavers, street gangs and jihadis are the reality he doesn’t want to see), and Holder has The One by a very sensitive part of his anatomy.

And having served under the Clintons, I’m quite sure he has an insurance policy to forestall any “accidents”, “heart attacks”, or “Oh my G-d, the dog ate Eric!!”s.

The One is linked to Holder like Genovese was linked to Luciano. You may remember, to take one of them down, the other had to be convinced to leave the country first. (The other choice being Sing Sing.)

Holder isn’t going to accept that choice.

clear ether

eon

eon on May 20, 2013 at 9:54 PM

And let’s not accept the premises of these “narratives” that excuse the administration:

While head of the NSC isn’t a post requiring Senate confirmation, appointing Rice would reignite the firestorm in this largely faux scandal.

and

“Fast and Furious did not involve the president, so who do you focus on?

Has that claim been proven?

Support for Holder remains strong among many on the legal left, especially after he and his department came out hard against voter identification laws and other measures they said could disenfranchise minorities

Just because they claim such, have they proven such? Voter ID is a threat to honest elections? Since when?

onlineanalyst on May 20, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Many Holder supporters view him as a proxy of sorts for the president, absorbing political blows that Republicans would like to administer directly to Obama but can’t without violating certain principles of decorum.

Yes, I remember when Democrats lived by the principles of decorum during the previous administration.

JR on May 20, 2013 at 10:00 PM

Just because they claim such, have they proven such? Voter ID is a threat to honest elections? Since when?

onlineanalyst on May 20, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Honest election; One the Democrat candidate wins.

Mandate; Any Democrat win, even by a single vote. (Never mind where that vote came from.)

Threat; Election laws actually being enforced as per the statutes, which inevitably disadvantages Democrats.

/Democratpedia

clear ether

eon

eon on May 20, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Barry will do none of it. Holder is his pal, and knows where the bodies are buried. Nope, Barry will just double down on stupid and start claiming “Executive Privilege”.

GarandFan on May 20, 2013 at 10:30 PM

Geez! So much navel gazing over firing a guy who is doing things he should be fired for.

This is what’s wrong with DC, politicians and their staffs and pundits.

Vince on May 20, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Republicans won’t make too much of a stink about that lest they be seen defending Dubya’s administration and Democrats won’t make much of a stink about Fitzgerald because they’ll be exceptionally eager to finally turn the page on this mess.

Wrong!!!!!

Patrick Fitzgerald pursued the White House knowing full well from the start Richard Armitage leaked the information. But still he conducted a witch hunt. The best he could do was a perjury charge and obstruction charge against Scooter Libby. He was rewarded by the Obama White House by allowing him to be one of the few US Attorneys to keep his job with the change of administrations.

His only saving grace is he couldn’t be as bad as Holder. But he is no friend of Republicans.

Corky Boyd on May 20, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Holder’s not going anywhere, especially now with all these scandals.

The Rogue Tomato on May 20, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Holder is Obama’s trained attack dog. When a man’s dog goes wild and hurts people–the owner is held to be at fault. How is it that simple legal and social fact escapes from reality for the leftist ruling class?

Holder needs to be tried by an impartial jury for criminal behavior and his boss…?

Don L on May 21, 2013 at 5:18 AM

Their thinking? “You get Holder, we get to keep Obama!”

There are so many who need to go find real jobs — Obama, Hillary, the entire White House staff, Susan Rice, Sebelius, all of the IRS, the EPA. So many that it might even exhaust the seemingly unlimited resources of the Leftist groups for whom these people otherwise would go to work.

Mdirmeie on May 21, 2013 at 7:48 AM