NYT: Say, what exactly is an “assault weapon,” anyway?
posted at 2:01 pm on January 17, 2013 by Ed Morrissey
That’s a good question — and perhaps one that should have been answered before New York jumped headlong into a ban on them. The New York Times can’t quite figure out what the definition is, calling it “complicated”:
Advocates of an assault weapons ban argue that the designation should apply to firearms like those used in the Newtown, Conn., shootings and other recent mass killings — semiautomatic rifles with detachable magazines and “military” features like pistol grips, flash suppressors and collapsible or folding stocks.
Such firearms, they contend, were designed for the battlefield, where the goal is to rapidly kill as many enemy soldiers as possible, and they have no place in civilian life.
“When the military switched over to this assault weapon, the whole context changed,” said Tom Diaz, formerly of the Violence Policy Center, whose book about the militarization of civilian firearms, “The Last Gun,” is scheduled for publication in the spring. “The conversation became, ‘Is this the kind of gun you want in the civilian world?’ And we who advocate for regulation say, ‘No, you do not.’ ”
But Second Amendment groups — and many firearm owners — heatedly object to the use of “assault weapon” to describe guns that they say are routinely used in target shooting and hunting. The term, they argue, should be used only for firearms capable of full automatic fire, like those employed by law enforcement and the military. They prefer the term “tactical rifle” or “modern sporting rifle” for the semiautomatic civilian versions.
They argue that any attempt to ban “assault weapons” is misguided because the guns under discussion differ from many other firearms only in their styling.
Modern armies don’t design semi-automatic rifles for use in theaters of war. They supply their soldiers with fully automatic weapons, which have been illegal for civilians to own or purchase in the US ever since the Great Depression, with only a narrow exception with strict licensing and oversight. Semi-automatic rifles produce one round per trigger pull, regardless of how “scary” the weapon looks. I noted the same ignorance of military use in my TFT column today with regard to how Barack Obama attempted to sell his assault-weapons ban proposal yesterday:
Let’s start with the assault-weapons ban, which mirrors the ban Connecticut had in place at the time of the massacre. Obama insisted in his speech that “Weapons designed for the theater of war have no place in a movie theater,” but the weapons banned under this proposal wouldn’t be used in any theaters of war, either.
They are all semi-automatic weapons, which require one trigger pull per shot fired, just as revolvers do. Weapons designed for theaters of war are usually fully automatic, at least for modern armies, allowing soldiers to produce rapid continuous fire on an enemy. Fully automatic weapons are already banned for most American civilians, either for sale or possession, by existing federal law.
This was a problem with the original 1994 legislation, too. The law banned or allowed weapons that functionally were the same. All of them produced one round per trigger pull, but the military flourishes — which do nothing to add or subtract from the lethality of the weapon — offended the senses of some enough to warrant their illegality. It’s strictly a superficial, stylistic choice.
The New Republic‘s Bill Scher made the same point yesterday, as well as the 1994 law’s ultimate futility:
Most glaringly, though, the focus on assault rifles ignored the main source of gun deaths: handguns. In 2011, there were approximately 6,000 homicides from handguns, versus little more than 300 from rifles. (Another 20,000 gun deaths were intentional suicides, also primarily a handgun problem.) While mass shootings are nationally traumatic, they are a mere sliver of the gun problem. The 68 dead this year from such crimes is less than one-half of one percent of the 30,000 gun deaths from 2011.
Assault weapons may be more likely in mass shootings, but so are semiautomatic handguns, which were used in Columbine, Virginia Tech and Aurora. The killers at Columbine and Aurora also used shotguns. In fact, police in Aurora noted that the shooter could have done more damage with his shotgun than with his assault rifle equipped with the infamous 100-round magazines, partly because of the deadly spray effect of the shotgun pellets and partly because his 100-round magazine jammed, as they are known to do.
Scher linked to FBI statistics on homicides in the five-year period from 2007-2011 (inclusive), and in each year — well after the expiration of the 1994 law — the number of murder victims by firearms fell from the year before. That is true of handguns and of rifles, as well as the overall number of murder victims in the country by any means. But let’s look specifically at “rifles,” of which the assault-weapons ban would only affect a subset, and see how those stack up against other means of murder:
First, if one wants to prevent murders, then going after rifles isn’t going to do much, since murders involving rifles only accounted for only 323 of the 8,583 firearms-related murder victims in 2011, according to the FBI. More homicide victims resulted from blunt-object attacks (496), and nearly five times as many from knives and other cutting instruments (1,587).
More than twice as many victims (728) resulted from “personal weapons,” defined by the FBI as “hands, fists, feet, etc.” More to the point, the 1994 ban didn’t reduce the rate of mass shootings; its expiration didn’t increase the rate, and many of those that did occur involved weapons outside of the scope of the ban, such as shotguns and handguns. Note too that homicide victims from firearms dropped in each of the last five reported years in both overall numbers and those resulting from rifles.
In other words, we’d have arguably better results by banning human arms than from banning a subset of rifles, at least in terms of murders committed … and probably just as much success, too. This also points out the vapidity of the term “assault weapons”: any weapon used to assault someone else is an “assault weapon.” Handguns produced 20 times as many murder victims as all rifles, and yet all of the focus falls on styles of semi-automatic rifles designed specifically for civilian use that simply look and sound scary to contemplate.
What does this tell us? It says that politicians hyperventilating about the style of a few semi-automatic rifles are more interested in posing than in actually addressing the issues of violence in American society.
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Kind of like communism was good for the youth, religions, and the artists.
acyl72 on May 22, 2013 at 8:45 PM
Surprised there wasn’t a “donate button” at the bottom of her webpage.
can_con on May 22, 2013 at 8:48 PM
Congratulations class of 2013, you managed to graduate without learning critical thinking skills. You have been programmed to be compliant to the state from which all your needs and desires will come. Don’t bother looking for meaningful employment, as we have ruined any chance of you being independent and self determined. Everything you say and do can and will be used against you if you show any signs of resistance to the state. You will not enjoy any privacy. Welcome to Amerika.
tom daschle concerned on May 22, 2013 at 8:51 PM
I will gladly
payrob you Tuesday for thehamburgerDeath Panels you buy for me today.—————— Joe Mengele Sebelius, Death Panels Kommandant.
viking01 on May 22, 2013 at 8:51 PM
Um..I just have to comment…pre-existing condition of acne?? WTF
BeachBum on May 22, 2013 at 8:51 PM
Great job kids, you’ll be excited to know being dependent on us is now easier than ever!
rightmind on May 22, 2013 at 8:52 PM
I’m tired of this BS meme about “robbing our childrens’ futures”. This is simple thievery, and we’re being stolen from NOW through inflation, and means nothing to most voters…they’re used to living in debt and the numbers are so staggering it simply doesn’t compute for them. Oh, and…they believe that the Wizards of Wall Street and the Gov’t surely know what they’re doing and will fix everything.
So, it doesn’t mean anything to enough people to make a difference at the polls. Besides, even if it did, how much more would the GOP get is into debt? They’ve done it before.
Dr. ZhivBlago on May 22, 2013 at 8:52 PM
There’s an old joke that goes, “I want to live long enough to be a burden to my kids.”
Obamacare is going to guarantee I am, along with a lot of other people my age and older.
Liam on May 22, 2013 at 8:54 PM
Not if your parents lose their employer provided insurance and get thrown on the exchanges.
Curtiss on May 22, 2013 at 8:56 PM
Nurse Diesel was born 60 years too late. She would have made a marvelous Nazi and Associate of Dr. Mengele. Pity…
/SPARC
glcinpdx on May 22, 2013 at 8:57 PM
Nurse Diesel was born 60 years too late. She would have made a marvelous Nazi and Associate of Dr. Mengele. Pity…
/SARC
glcinpdx on May 22, 2013 at 8:58 PM
I was at a party this past weekend, a rather daper young man of 80 years told a “funny but true” joke.
He asked at Social Security how he was going to get back all that he had paid in. The lady looked up his numbers, and told him with interest, it would take 32 more years to pay him back.
He looked me straight in the eye and said
If you knew Don, you could believe that.
JusDreamin on May 22, 2013 at 9:05 PM
Of course you can get Plan B at age 15.
You can drive a car at 16.
You can vote at age 18.
You can legally drink at 21.
You can serve in the military.
But when it comes to healthcare, you can mooch off your parents until you’re old enough that you probably have a family of your own. Here’s to being a responsible adult or something.
Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 9:14 PM
Good if you are going to be a government worker.
Guess there might be some openings in the IRS soon…
ProfShadow on May 22, 2013 at 9:15 PM
I doubt any but the most serious and earnest of young Democrats are actually going to find their way to the HHS blog. I mean, how many here even knew there was one? I didn’t.
Even if they are aware of her statement, all Sebelius’ words won’t mean a thing when members of the class of 2013 can’t find work or can only find part-time work thanks to Obamacare or when they see differences in their paycheck because of Obamacare.
INC on May 22, 2013 at 9:17 PM
How many parents will subsidize their “kids” until they’re 26? I won’t.
Charlemagne on May 22, 2013 at 9:17 PM
Somehow, though, I can’t feel sorry for these college kids who, their first time voting, voted for Obama. And for those who voted for him twice. And let their liberal parents who voted Obama suffer just like the rest of us.
While I deplore this law and wish it be repealed, I’m going to enjoy seeing liberals suffer for the laws they wanted but didn’t always have to heed. Now, for the first time, liberals have to pay, too.
“Welcome to the party, pal!”
Liam on May 22, 2013 at 9:20 PM
I have little faith in the young. They get their news from Colbert and Stewart and couldn’t tell you where Canada is on a map let alone intelligently explain international affairs. Many of them will happily sign up for that “free” healthcare.
Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 9:21 PM
Maybe she can explain why she broke the law & why she was extorting money from organization she was ‘lover’s….it will give her some practice before she has to do it before CONGRESS!
easyt65 on May 22, 2013 at 9:23 PM
Well good for you! I knew that the financial support was cut off the minute I graduated from college. Of course, I had a job and wasn’t back in my childhood race car bed because of the lousy economy.
Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 9:24 PM
Well, remember that campaign ad. They wanted their first time to be special.
Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 9:26 PM
Well, they gave it up to a psycho, and he’ll forever be like a stalker.
Liam on May 22, 2013 at 9:30 PM
“You vill drink zee Obamakare, und you vill enchoy it! Ja?”
slickwillie2001 on May 22, 2013 at 9:32 PM
What year did Sebelius run in the Kentucky Derby?
bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 9:34 PM
Yeah, it’s like a Lifetime Movie Network script.
Innocent happy young people graduate from college. Before you know it they’re enrolled in Obamacare, have to trade their cool phones in for Obamaphones because they don’t have any income. They turn on the television to see Mooch lecturing them to eat their vegetables. It is as if they’ve lost their real families and been adopted by the Obamas. Or more accurately they’ve been recruited into the radical left-wing party of which Obama is the cult leader.
Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 9:41 PM
Hah! Trick question. Sebelius isn’t a mudder and got scratched before the race for fear that the track conditions would result in a broken leg. Thus eliminating any chance of stud fees.
Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 10:00 PM
Chickens coming home to roost.
.Left wing professorial nuts in colleges teach kids socialism.
.left wing indoctrinated college freaks elect Obama president.
.Obama appoints whackos like Sebelius and the IRS to propose and administer Obamacare and other lunatic government programs (government “problems” would be more apt.)–all over-funded, job-killing and cancerous.
.Left wing indoctrinated college freaks not only can’t afford Obamacare but they can’t get any jobs because of it.
.In a no-job market the only openings available for poorly trained, unqualified left wing indoctrinated college freaks is to become left wing professorial nuts themselves. Problem is-only one opening per 75,000 applicants.
MaiDee on May 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM
This. Only recently has it even been physically possible for me to go apartment shopping. And the state of the job market basically robs you of all career choice.
Seriously, you wanna be depressed to the core of your being? Try writing out a budget and realizing 9 hour shifts of putting up with flappy-mouthed rudesters for co’work’ers and being abused by dumb angry proles who want everything for free will BARELY provide enough money to exist on.
Would be a lot more money for me if it wasn’t being taken to feed the Democrat ‘minority’ voting blocs…
MelonCollie on May 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM
Exactly. Even with all manner of Federal subsidies, there are only so many ‘jobs’ for overpaid wind-up puppets. The rest of us actually have to find real employment, which is currently about like panning for gold at your local public pool.
MelonCollie on May 22, 2013 at 10:58 PM
Nah, there are plenty of jobs for them. Obama wants his domestic national police force, equipped as well as the military. 3 hots and a cot along with all the “personal defense weapons” and “weapons of war” you can want with that new authoritah.
oryguncon on May 22, 2013 at 11:24 PM
Well, except for that really, really high insurance premium – you know, that one that you’re required to purchase. Oh sure, you probably wouldn’t have purchased insurance at such a young age – but if we’re going to offset the costs associated with insuring people with preexisting conditions – we need to you to pay your fair share. See? Doesn’t that feel good?
Sure hope you find a good-paying job… you’re going to need it!
Hill60 on May 23, 2013 at 12:04 AM
I still think that in this picture she looks like Dana Carvey as The Church Lady.
bugsy on May 23, 2013 at 5:42 AM
I don’t understand why there is never any pushback from the GOP or commentators on the stupid claim that insurance companies discriminate with higher premiums based on being a woman. What they are referring to is that insurance is typically higher for a woman of child bearing age than a similarly aged man. Well, duh that’s because women can get pregnant and men can’t and so they are at a higher risk of causing higher payouts. I know my six pregnancies cost our insurance company a lot more money than my husband did at the same age. To force a single male to pay the same rates as a single female during childbearing years is redistribution for the sake of politics/feminist agenda pure and simple.
txmomof6 on May 23, 2013 at 5:52 AM
I despise this Sebelius woman.
locomotivebreath1901 on May 23, 2013 at 6:12 AM
to the class of 2013:
good luck finding a job; and don’t forget to pay your obamacare ‘taxes’ or the IRS will be coming for you.
you voted for these socialists; welcome to the real world chumps!
burserker on May 23, 2013 at 10:10 AM
In charge of your medical records.
Schadenfreude on May 23, 2013 at 3:16 PM