NYT: Say, what exactly is an “assault weapon,” anyway?
posted at 2:01 pm on January 17, 2013 by Ed Morrissey
That’s a good question — and perhaps one that should have been answered before New York jumped headlong into a ban on them. The New York Times can’t quite figure out what the definition is, calling it “complicated”:
Advocates of an assault weapons ban argue that the designation should apply to firearms like those used in the Newtown, Conn., shootings and other recent mass killings — semiautomatic rifles with detachable magazines and “military” features like pistol grips, flash suppressors and collapsible or folding stocks.
Such firearms, they contend, were designed for the battlefield, where the goal is to rapidly kill as many enemy soldiers as possible, and they have no place in civilian life.
“When the military switched over to this assault weapon, the whole context changed,” said Tom Diaz, formerly of the Violence Policy Center, whose book about the militarization of civilian firearms, “The Last Gun,” is scheduled for publication in the spring. “The conversation became, ‘Is this the kind of gun you want in the civilian world?’ And we who advocate for regulation say, ‘No, you do not.’ ”
But Second Amendment groups — and many firearm owners — heatedly object to the use of “assault weapon” to describe guns that they say are routinely used in target shooting and hunting. The term, they argue, should be used only for firearms capable of full automatic fire, like those employed by law enforcement and the military. They prefer the term “tactical rifle” or “modern sporting rifle” for the semiautomatic civilian versions.
They argue that any attempt to ban “assault weapons” is misguided because the guns under discussion differ from many other firearms only in their styling.
Modern armies don’t design semi-automatic rifles for use in theaters of war. They supply their soldiers with fully automatic weapons, which have been illegal for civilians to own or purchase in the US ever since the Great Depression, with only a narrow exception with strict licensing and oversight. Semi-automatic rifles produce one round per trigger pull, regardless of how “scary” the weapon looks. I noted the same ignorance of military use in my TFT column today with regard to how Barack Obama attempted to sell his assault-weapons ban proposal yesterday:
Let’s start with the assault-weapons ban, which mirrors the ban Connecticut had in place at the time of the massacre. Obama insisted in his speech that “Weapons designed for the theater of war have no place in a movie theater,” but the weapons banned under this proposal wouldn’t be used in any theaters of war, either.
They are all semi-automatic weapons, which require one trigger pull per shot fired, just as revolvers do. Weapons designed for theaters of war are usually fully automatic, at least for modern armies, allowing soldiers to produce rapid continuous fire on an enemy. Fully automatic weapons are already banned for most American civilians, either for sale or possession, by existing federal law.
This was a problem with the original 1994 legislation, too. The law banned or allowed weapons that functionally were the same. All of them produced one round per trigger pull, but the military flourishes — which do nothing to add or subtract from the lethality of the weapon — offended the senses of some enough to warrant their illegality. It’s strictly a superficial, stylistic choice.
The New Republic‘s Bill Scher made the same point yesterday, as well as the 1994 law’s ultimate futility:
Most glaringly, though, the focus on assault rifles ignored the main source of gun deaths: handguns. In 2011, there were approximately 6,000 homicides from handguns, versus little more than 300 from rifles. (Another 20,000 gun deaths were intentional suicides, also primarily a handgun problem.) While mass shootings are nationally traumatic, they are a mere sliver of the gun problem. The 68 dead this year from such crimes is less than one-half of one percent of the 30,000 gun deaths from 2011.
Assault weapons may be more likely in mass shootings, but so are semiautomatic handguns, which were used in Columbine, Virginia Tech and Aurora. The killers at Columbine and Aurora also used shotguns. In fact, police in Aurora noted that the shooter could have done more damage with his shotgun than with his assault rifle equipped with the infamous 100-round magazines, partly because of the deadly spray effect of the shotgun pellets and partly because his 100-round magazine jammed, as they are known to do.
Scher linked to FBI statistics on homicides in the five-year period from 2007-2011 (inclusive), and in each year — well after the expiration of the 1994 law — the number of murder victims by firearms fell from the year before. That is true of handguns and of rifles, as well as the overall number of murder victims in the country by any means. But let’s look specifically at “rifles,” of which the assault-weapons ban would only affect a subset, and see how those stack up against other means of murder:
First, if one wants to prevent murders, then going after rifles isn’t going to do much, since murders involving rifles only accounted for only 323 of the 8,583 firearms-related murder victims in 2011, according to the FBI. More homicide victims resulted from blunt-object attacks (496), and nearly five times as many from knives and other cutting instruments (1,587).
More than twice as many victims (728) resulted from “personal weapons,” defined by the FBI as “hands, fists, feet, etc.” More to the point, the 1994 ban didn’t reduce the rate of mass shootings; its expiration didn’t increase the rate, and many of those that did occur involved weapons outside of the scope of the ban, such as shotguns and handguns. Note too that homicide victims from firearms dropped in each of the last five reported years in both overall numbers and those resulting from rifles.
In other words, we’d have arguably better results by banning human arms than from banning a subset of rifles, at least in terms of murders committed … and probably just as much success, too. This also points out the vapidity of the term “assault weapons”: any weapon used to assault someone else is an “assault weapon.” Handguns produced 20 times as many murder victims as all rifles, and yet all of the focus falls on styles of semi-automatic rifles designed specifically for civilian use that simply look and sound scary to contemplate.
What does this tell us? It says that politicians hyperventilating about the style of a few semi-automatic rifles are more interested in posing than in actually addressing the issues of violence in American society.
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I’m more worried about the dictators in the IRS than I am of the dictators in the ME right now.
Punchenko on May 18, 2013 at 7:09 PM
Okay..
I will post..
Never heard of this war…
/
Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 7:09 PM
I never understood why we were supposed to care in the first place – We’ve got our own problems.
Pork-Chop on May 18, 2013 at 7:11 PM
It isn’t a good story for them, and the fact that Assad keeps stepping over line after line Obama’s warned him not to cross feeds into the other best-case narrative right now with Benghazi, the IRS and the AP scandals that the president is a beta male with no control over his own domestic or foreign policy, and could be intimidated by a mean-looking Girl Scout, let alone a Syrian dictator.
Better not to play up the story, thereby giving Obama a chance to ignore it, than push it, remind people of Obama’s warnings, and force him into another foreign policy blunder that could then remind more people of the foreign policy disaster on 9/11/12.
jon1979 on May 18, 2013 at 7:14 PM
I am hoping that Assad wins so there won’t be a slaughter of Christians in Syria.
VorDaj on May 18, 2013 at 7:15 PM
Let them kill each other. And lets not talk to them. And lets not send them anymore money.
thgrant on May 18, 2013 at 7:16 PM
Who cares….?
Are we supposed to rescue them only to see them murder our soldiers afterwards?
Who cares what muslims do to other muslims?
NeoKong on May 18, 2013 at 7:19 PM
Like coverage of the Apollo program.
We said we didn’t want to go to war in Syria. We said it pretty emphatically. We said “no” for every reason they gave us, even the loaded words like “massacre.” We heard “massacre” and kept shaking our heads no anyway.
No real sense beating a war drum when people refuse to get in line.
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 7:22 PM
Feb 6, 2012: “But in Christian homes around the country the prevailing sentiment is one of relief rather than delight — they link the survival of the Assad regime to their own.
“Thank god for Russia. Without Russia we are doomed,” said a Christian woman from Damascus recently.”
Who would have ever thought that atheist Russia would be the protector of Christians and Christian America would be on the side of those who would kill them?
VorDaj on May 18, 2013 at 7:23 PM
Imo for the free world generally and the US in particular, this medieval Islamic savage fatigue.
we’ve burned our hands on the stove too many times in the last decade or more on behalf of people who more or less want Christians around the world dead or subjugated and could care less that we have tried to help them (however imperfectly and poorly) get out of a 10th century mindset.
So I think for perfectly valid reasons, few folks in the free West have the energy to much care anymore who wins a fight to the death between head-chopping Islamic nutters in limos and business suits vs. Islamic head-choppers in Toyotas and track suits.
Sacramento on May 18, 2013 at 7:26 PM
The Christian thing is a problem. I’m not sure we can insist we aren’t a Christian nation and then turn around and identify with Christians as a nation. If you see what I mean. Just talking.
Getting out of hand, too:
Christianity Facing ‘Catastrophic Collapse’ in Britain
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 7:27 PM
I know, right?
thebrokenrattle on May 18, 2013 at 7:28 PM
The victory of one side or the other isn’t a compelling national interest.
Curtiss on May 18, 2013 at 7:29 PM
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Cleombrotus on May 18, 2013 at 7:30 PM
The media may have figured out that we don’t care what happens in Syria. They can all kill each other for all we care. As long as they are killing each other, they are leaving Israel alone.
john1schn on May 18, 2013 at 7:32 PM
They just might be in the 10th century in another 100 centuries.
VorDaj on May 18, 2013 at 7:37 PM
Most folks lose interest in another country’s civil war when one is being waged on them right here at home. Just sayin’
VegasRick on May 18, 2013 at 7:38 PM
Every intervention we have done in an Islamic country has been a dismal failure. Enough. I don’t care about the Syrian war. We can’t win no matter what we do. Once we step in we will be the invaders. We have no friends there.
echosyst on May 18, 2013 at 7:55 PM
Difficultas_Est_Imperium on May 18, 2013 at 8:01 PM
Are they only doing it to attract our attention? Why should the blessed Shia and the freedom fightin’ Sunnis care about what we think? Who are we to interfere with the will of Allah? May the beloved of Allah win.
BL@KBIRD on May 18, 2013 at 8:07 PM
Why are all the protest signs in Arab speaking nations in English?
الله على مربوطة
davidk on May 18, 2013 at 8:12 PM
That would be me on Election Day 2008, when I realized that my fellow citizens had elected a Crypto-Muslim traitor to be our President.
To me, it was as though we had thrown FDR (despite his shortcomings) out and elected Adolph Hitler as our President.
To think of all the young men and women serving this nation since Inauguration Day 2009 that have given their lives for the protection of Liberty in this land…
(Read between the lines here)
Barack Obama is truly the Devil incarnate walking the face of the Earth. We and our children will suffer grievously for generations to come because of him.
turfmann on May 18, 2013 at 8:13 PM
English to arabic of “Allah get screwed” = الله على مربوطة
arabic to English of “الله على مربوطة” = Allah the tied.
davidk on May 18, 2013 at 8:17 PM
Fascinating. :)
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 8:22 PM
*But, don’t stand next to me for a few days.
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 8:23 PM
اللعنة على الله
john1schn on May 18, 2013 at 8:25 PM
They need a good side. Well in Syria there are no good sides. In Egypt the “good” Muslim Brotherhood where better at keeping their mask of good that the Free Syrian Army could never dream of as they are Al Qaeda and would kill anyone that they do not approve of even fellow members.
tjexcite on May 18, 2013 at 8:31 PM
The MSM seem to tire of wars in this region much faster than they do elsewhere.
Just yesterday, I saw an official USAF press release describing U.S. FRT support for Armee de l’Air ops over Mali in support of French and British peacekeepers there. Meaning, combat ops are ongoing as a consequence of the Northern Malian insurgency, which has been going on for over a year, and which has roots in the Libyan-backed Mali “insurgency” of almost two decades ago. (When “freedom fighters” can call in airstrikes from Libyan Tu-22 Blinder jet bombers, it’s sort of hard to call it an “insurgency” without the “”- or with a straight face.)
In the Sudan, the Muslim government in Khartoum had been killing Christian and animist tribes in the southern half of the country for over a decade. So far, none of the “concerned” types at the Georgetown cocktail parties seem to have noticed. (I’d have thought they’d have been screaming to high heaven- at least about the animists.)
The Iran/Iraq War (1980-88) dropped off the media’s radar screens about the time it turned into 1914-18 style trench warfare, two years in. The media didn’t notice it again until Iran-Contra was exposed.
They stopped caring about the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan (1979-89) long before the Soviets pulled out. I think the only lesson anyone learned there was the one the British, and we, have learned; that being, only a damned fool invades Afghanistan with conventional forces. If you must go in, either leave it to the spec-ops boys, or just f’ing nuke the place, but do not send in conventional heavy forces. It’s not good territory for anything much more “high tech” than a man on horseback.
And oh yes, there’s Yemen, UBL’s home turf. They’ve had so many wars in the last century that Wiki needs a disambiguation page for them;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemen_War
At least two are still ongoing. Anybody seen that on MSNBC?
Maybe the problem is that Muslims busily killing everyone from Christians to… other Muslims just conflicts with the whole “Religion of Peace” meme’. It’s sort of hard to maintain that sort of illusion when the “peaceful” types are busy re-enacting Stalingrad all over the place. With live ammo.
Face it. Islam is a tribalist culture. Tribalist cultures fight unending wars that are really little more than clan feuds writ large. It’s Somalia on a continental scale.
That’s why I’m surprised it’s taken this long for the media to lose interest in Syria. Of course, the fact that their Messiah may have been trying to relive Iran-Contra there might be an impetus, too. Can’t have the peons’ finding out about that, now, can we?
I mean, they might start thinking Reagan had a point or two on his side, or something. Since The One is Never Wrong, and all that.
Better to just ignore the whole thing, really.
/if I need a sarc tag for that…
clear ether
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eon on May 18, 2013 at 8:42 PM
Protecting the Christians, for Russia, is just an unimportant side-effect of protecting Assad.
And it’s the “We-Hate-Christians” part of America that seems to be supporting the killers.
AesopFan on May 18, 2013 at 8:52 PM
The Syrian civil war has fallen “victim” (strange word to use) to the American people no longer giving a sh!t about barbaric savage Muslims killing each other.
What have we gotten for all of the blood we have shed and treasure we have expended rescuing and protecting some Muslims from other murderous barbaric Muslims, from Bosnia to Afghanistan to Libya?
They hate us at least as much as they ever did and blame us for all of their problems.
May as well let them kill each other and then deal with whoever “wins”. Dealing with them however necessary to assure they cannot export their savagery and barbarism to the US. That means our primary interest is in keeping WMDs out of the hands of people who would use them against the US.
To date, we have seen no indication Assad might use them against the US. We can’t say that about many of the Islamist “rebels” trying to overthrow him.
farsighted on May 18, 2013 at 9:33 PM
Yeah, well, if covering meant unearthing another destroyed Obama narrative like “weeks, not months” or “game changers” and “red lines”, and you are part of the MSM, you’re probably not real keen on reminding people of this issue. Failed US foreign policy in this area effects two people, Obama and Hillary.
BKeyser on May 18, 2013 at 9:49 PM
Hate to be maudlin but a good muslim is a dead muslim.
Mr. Curly on May 18, 2013 at 10:25 PM
I’m tired of it because I hope they both lose.
In this corner, we have a dictator oppressing his people…
And in the other corner, a new upstart Al Qaeda looking for a base of operations for massive terrorist attacks…
Yeah, I’m rooting for neither, and a long costly battle for everyone.
Sorry for the civilians living in the middle; but I don’t see how getting involved to try to end the war faster by backing either side benefits anything but tyranny and psychopathic lunatics.
gekkobear on May 18, 2013 at 11:15 PM
If you go to LiveLeak the war in Syria is front page everyday.
There are literally hundreds of homemade videos from the conflict on that site.
So while the MSM may not be covering it, it has not disappeared from the attention of the “internet community”
CallousDisregard on May 19, 2013 at 12:13 AM
Islam just sucks.
People are tired of its murderous lunacies.
profitsbeard on May 19, 2013 at 1:49 AM
I didn’t realize you were literate in Arabic.
DarkCurrent on May 19, 2013 at 3:56 AM
OT: The trick to using Google Translate or similar tools for languages you don’t know is be familiar with at least two languages that aren’t closely related.
Step 1: Translate the source string from language you know into the unknown target language.
Step 2: Translate the result from Step 1 into another language you do know (that isn’t closely related to the source language).
If the result of Step 2 is what you intended, chances are the result in the unknown language is close to what you want.
Otherwise you’re likely to get nonsense.
DarkCurrent on May 19, 2013 at 4:02 AM
It’ll either have a brutal secular dictatorship or a brutal theocracy.
Both are bad.
Yakko77 on May 19, 2013 at 7:48 AM
We’ve got to learn as a country that many things that happen around the world are just none of our freakin’ business. The Syrian Civil War is one of them.
Unless a situation directly involves our national interests, stay the hell out of it. Amen.
AngusMc on May 19, 2013 at 9:45 AM
BO would like attention to stay focused there. It would be a great distraction if media was breathlessly covering the final days of handing power over to the latest flavor of the Muslim Brotherhood.
The problem is BO also has run guns through Libya into Syria to support the “rebels”, who are in reality radical Islamists bent on inflaming the entire middle east. Too much attention and eventually someone will publish the pieces. The warnings to BO from Russia through Turkey, the warehouse complex at the CIA annex in Benghazi, the shipping logs showing what went where and when.
What’s tougher: swallowing immense pride and letting the press drag out domestic evils, or having the press investigate an administration purposefully arming enemies that have vowed our destruction?
MarkT on May 19, 2013 at 9:48 AM
We should treat Syria like the “Warfare Special Olympics.” Everyone loses; there are no winners.
I would like to see that.
Mojave Mark on May 19, 2013 at 10:51 AM
Wasn’t Assad supposed to have been deposed before last Christmas according to the LSM?
I can’t get over how the LSM calls these Al-Qaeda terrorists “activists”. Shameful.
Dr. ZhivBlago on May 19, 2013 at 11:55 AM
From what I’ve read, it appears that Syria has basically fractured into 3 or so pieces. The central and coastal areas controlled by Assad, the South controlled by Hezbollah and Northeast controlled by Kurds. The situation remains at a bloody stalemate. One big concern, is the spread of fractional war into Jordan and elsewhere.
MJBrutus on May 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM