NBC wonders: Are we better off than we were four years ago?

posted at 9:46 pm on January 17, 2013 by Mary Katharine Ham

Chuck Todd did a segment on this subject this morning on “The Daily Rundown,” and I’m trying to run down video. As we prepare to start our second four years of President Barack Obama, NBC grades him by the numbers. Even NBC can only muster two paragraphs of semi-positive spin before it moves onto the bad. Here’s the good:

The Dow Jones Industrial average is up 5,550 points since then. The economy is growing (instead of contracting). Consumer confidence has nearly doubled (though it remains below where it was before the Great Recession). And a larger percentage of Americans believe the country is headed in the right direction (but a majority still think it’s on the wrong track).

And, the bad:

On the other hand, there’s data indicating that the nation isn’t better off than it was four years ago – and that the Great Recession continues to take a toll on families. Median household income (adjusted for inflation) is lower than it was in 2009. And more Americans live below the poverty level than they did four years ago.

There are also far more Americans on food stamps than before.

And, the meh:

And some numbers are exactly the same. The current unemployment rate is at 7.8%, which is where it was in Jan. 2009 (though it’s down from a high of 10% in Oct. 2009). And right now, there are roughly 49 million Americans without health insurance, which is identical to where it was in 2009. (The health-insurance mandate under the health-care law doesn’t kick in until 2014.)

What NBC doesn’t connect to these mostly depressing numbers is the cost-benefit analysis. But if you delve a little into their list of numbers, you’ll find this one:

The federal public debt has increased from $10.6 trillion in Jan. 2009 to $16.4 trillion now.

So, there’s that. Six trillion dollars, and we have the exact same unemployment rate (with the bonus of a much smaller workforce), no more people with health insurance even though Obama has put the nation and the health care system through the wringer implementing his foolproof, expensive plan to get us all insured, and more people in poverty and on food stamps.

No wonder people aren’t champing at the bit to use their Inauguration tickets, and instead are selling them on eBay and Craigslist. That bit of entrepreneurialism is swiftly being stopped. But check out the sad listings for an answer to whether we’re living in the world of prosperity and hope we were promised:

“Can’t go because my crone’s [sic] disease is acting up.”

“I am poor and gotta pay the bills.”

” … my grandmothercannot stand for that long and she is flying into town so I will watch it with her seated somewhere in DC.”

“I put in a lot of volunteer hours to get these, but I would also like to continue to be able to pay rent.”

“I’m willing to trade my 2 swearing –in tickets for an Ipad 3 or 4…. I need the Ipad for school.”

“I don’t have much money because I am a college student and am trying to make it from mid-America to Washington DC as well as afford a motel.”

“Unfortunately I cannot go because I have to workso these tickets won’t be used.”

“Would love to attend, but would rather pay off student debt.”

The president has found at least eight people whose lives are better these days:

President Barack Obama is featuring eight Americans as “citizen co-chairs” of his inauguration, a new role created to highlight his first-term accomplishments with examples of lives that have either been improved by his actions or inspired his presidency.

The honorees announced Thursday include a woman with a brain tumor who no longer is denied health care for a pre-existing condition; an autoworker who got her job back after the General Motors bailout; and a gay pilot-in-training kicked out of the Air Force before the president repealed the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.

There are, as yet, no reports of seven-year-old Brady Campaigners on the dais, but there’s still time.

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Kneepad media is very happy to have been of service the last four years …

… and are committed to the next four.

PolAgnostic on January 17, 2013 at 9:50 PM

I make 5K less..

Nope..

Not better off.

Electrongod on January 17, 2013 at 9:50 PM

You can buy a lot of good news with $6 trillion dollars.

If I have a boat that has a hole in it, and water is gushing in at 500 gallons per minute, all I have to do is use a pump that moves water at 500 gallons per minute.

I don’t have to fix the hole. The ship won’t sink, but it won’t be fixed, either. And as soon as I turn off the pump, the boat sinks.

This is the Obama economy, using a $6 trillion pump.

BobMbx on January 17, 2013 at 9:51 PM

…the Politburo Press has aided and abetted the basturd!

KOOLAID2 on January 17, 2013 at 9:51 PM

NBC wonders: Are we better off than we were four years ago?

Post-election.

Obama left a few bucks on the bedroom table before he left, and NBC wants back what isn’t ever coming back.

sharrukin on January 17, 2013 at 9:51 PM

NBC wonders: Are we better off than we were four years ago?

Four years from now..

“Are we better off then we were eight years ago?”

Electrongod on January 17, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Obama left a few bucks on the bedroom table before he left, and NBC wants back what isn’t ever coming back.

sharrukin on January 17, 2013 at 9:51 PM

I knew he was a ho…

[Hollywood cheers]

Electrongod on January 17, 2013 at 9:53 PM

On the other hand, there’s data indicating that the nation isn’t better off than it was four years ago –

…you won’t see the REAL data until 4 years from now…and THEN you will find out who’s fault it will be…and it won’t be the jackasses…the peanut will get all the blame!

KOOLAID2 on January 17, 2013 at 9:56 PM

but,but, but, but joe scarborough says its all our fault.

renalin on January 17, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Taxes are up, unemployment is up, income is down.

NO we aren’t better off.

TX-96 on January 17, 2013 at 9:57 PM

The Dow Jones Industrial average is up 5,550 points since then.

But gold has doubled since then, which means that the market is down, in terms of gold (a monetary measure that the Fed can’t print).

The economy is growing (instead of contracting).

False. We borrow and spend in excess of 8% of GDP into the economy each year in order to turn around and claim “growth” in that same economy of less than 2% of GDP. We are contracting heavily but that is masked by borrowed money that is spilled into it to give the illusion of “growth”. And that doesn’t even take into account the Fed’s wild printing at the same time.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 17, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Taxes are up, unemployment is up, income is down.

NO we aren’t better off.

TX-96 on January 17, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Utopia is right around the corner…

“Common Sense says so…” – Obama

Electrongod on January 17, 2013 at 10:00 PM

NBC should take their heads out of Obama’s crotch every now and then. Then the fact that the country is even deeper in the chitter wouldn’t come as such a surprise.

You know..try some actual journalism now and again.

HumpBot Salvation on January 17, 2013 at 10:00 PM

NBC wonders: Are we better off than we were four years ago?

If they were real journalists instead of hack propagandists for the state they would have asked this question before the election, obviously.

FloatingRock on January 17, 2013 at 10:01 PM

And no one even bothers to address the issue that eventually the Fed will need to unwind its insane balance sheet. Man … the crushing blow that that is going to be will make the credit crisis of 2008 look like child’s play. But, if we just ignore this fact of life then we won’t have to deal with it …. until we have to deal with it.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 17, 2013 at 10:02 PM

The Dow is up because it now takes more weaker dollars to buy the same value of stock.

Groceries costs have increased by over a third since Zero was sworn in by his shill Chief Just-Us Roberts.

We owe more per capita than Greece and Greece is a mess.

Mubarak wasn’t so bad compared to Zero’s current choice of Islamist fanatic.

viking01 on January 17, 2013 at 10:03 PM

NBC wonders

…are all of JugEars friends WAY BETTER OFF than four years ago!…oh wait!…Ohhhh!…they don’t care…oh

KOOLAID2 on January 17, 2013 at 10:06 PM

NBC wonders: Are we better off than we were four years ago?

Now they ask?

My favorites from the listings of people trying to scalp their inaguration tickets….

“I’m willing to trade my 2 swearing –in tickets for an Ipad 3 or 4…. I need the Ipad for school.”

Does anybody really think these tickets are worth that kind of a swap? Sadly, I live in DC so I can’t avoid the inconvenience. I did make the decision that flying my flag upside down in “distress mode” might be a bit too much for my liberal neighbors and though I don’t care about these parasites I do care about the condition of my car.

Happy Nomad on January 17, 2013 at 10:08 PM

False. We borrow and spend in excess of 8% of GDP into the economy each year in order to turn around and claim “growth” in that same economy of less than 2% of GDP. We are contracting heavily but that is masked by borrowed money that is spilled into it to give the illusion of “growth”. And that doesn’t even take into account the Fed’s wild printing at the same time.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 17, 2013 at 9:59 PM

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Don’t worry, by tomorrow the Hot Air editors will be back to making posts about how the Republicans have no choice but to keep surrendering to the SCOAMF’s demands or else be wiped out in 2014!

/s

The GOPe and the GOPe-media have as much to lose from the facts you state being rubbed in the public’s face as their Democratic counterparts.

When these junkies are finally separated from their fix, they are going to find out the hard way how much worse off the rest of us are after four years of “extend and pretend”.

PolAgnostic on January 17, 2013 at 10:09 PM

He’s crushed the country in 4 years and has vowed to crush the Republican party in the next 4 so we have that going for us.That is his legacy desire.

docflash on January 17, 2013 at 10:12 PM

The trillions given to the banks ended up in the market. That is why it is up and that is offset by the dollar’s weakness against commodities. So in reality that is not a plus. It is a negative because we as a nation, still owe those trillions that we, in essence, received nothing in return for.

The growth of the economy is another mirage as is the jobs picture.

Does This Look Like a Recovery?

voiceofreason on January 17, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Well, the firearms industry is booming.

MikeA on January 17, 2013 at 10:14 PM

The same clueless narcissistic fool is in the WH.

The once freest land is now the most stupid of them all.

They poofed the freedom into the wind.

Hopefully the frogs will jump out of the pan, alas.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2013 at 10:16 PM

The honorees announced Thursday include a woman with a brain tumor who no longer is denied health care for a pre-existing condition; an autoworker who got her job back after the General Motors bailout; and a gay pilot-in-training kicked out of the Air Force before the president repealed the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.

All illusions based on immediate satisfaction and not real well-being.

The honorees announced Thursday include:

a woman with a brain tumor who no longer is denied health care for a pre-existing condition;

[without health care insurers able to limit pre-existing conditions we all will be paying more for our health care. There were more reasonable ways of approaching this without making it so that the parasites of society don't have to pay for health insurance until they get sick and then toss down this card to get treatment gratis]

an autoworker who got her job back after the General Motors bailout;

[No mention of the billions the American taxpayer lost? The fact that the bailout was really of the UAW pension funds? That Govt. Motors continues to be a losing proposition and this woman will likely be out of work again before the second term is up?]

and a gay pilot-in-training kicked out of the Air Force before the president repealed the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.

[After another four years of this anti-military regime, all I can say is "what military?" That homo pilot will be flying a plane that could have been flown by his father. Who the hell cares about his sexual orientation?]

Happy Nomad on January 17, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Strange land

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2013 at 10:18 PM

The Dow Jones Industrial average is up 5,550 points since then.

Never before in the history of the country that there has been a President who has been more of a ally and a friend to the Wall Street bankers than Barack Obama… The deal between the two is very simple… The Federal reserves prints trillions of dollars at the country own peril and lend the Wall Street bankers the money with zero interest and the Wall Street bankers make more profit then ever before by lending the money to everyone else at higher interests… In return they give Obama the fake facade of an “acceptable” economy by having the DOW, S&P, and NASDAQ at historically high levels… Of course in public Obama attacks the Wall Street greed to appease his lunatic and dumb base who believes every word of his rhetoric but behind scenes Obama has given Wall Street bankers more power and profits than any other President before him…

PS: Wall Street Bankers are NOT CAPITALISM, are NOT FREE MARKET, are NOT WHAT AMERICA is meant to be…

mnjg on January 17, 2013 at 10:19 PM

It’s only Jan. 17, 2013.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2013 at 10:19 PM

In other words the Great Liberal Wet Dream Diversity Experiment has been a total and complete bust.

Who knew that electing a freakshow couple from Chicago would have this result? I mean besides most everyone here.

Bishop on January 17, 2013 at 10:19 PM

No wonder people aren’t champing at the bit to use their Inauguration tickets, and instead are selling them on eBay and Craigslist.

Or using them for toilet paper! If people start selling Obama tickets for that purpose I bet they will have a run on demand and might turn a profit.

CurpliTium on January 17, 2013 at 10:20 PM

What NBC doesn’t connect to these mostly depressing numbers is the cost-benefit analysis.

No effing doubt. The pain that this Obama economy is inflicting will be felt far and wide for a long long time. The opportunity costs are immense.

I am sure though that the Brayams will continue their fluffing of Obama.

CW on January 17, 2013 at 10:20 PM

The government statistics on inflation do not include the costs of food and fuel. The former has been rising steadily through these last four years, making it even harder for wage earners to meet fundamental needs.

onlineanalyst on January 17, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Of course in public Obama attacks the Wall Street greed to appease his lunatic and dumb base who believes every word of his rhetoric but behind scenes Obama has given Wall Street bankers more power and profits than any other President before him

mnjg on January 17, 2013 at 10:19 PM

I.e., he is run, his strings are pulled, by rich white people. He makes them rich and they enrich him.

The land is full of fools. Obama hates the middle and poor classes. He disdains them.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2013 at 10:23 PM

The ALINSKYMEDIA will do anything the Palace tells it too.

They are traitors to the republic.

PappyD61 on January 17, 2013 at 10:23 PM

I’m I better off.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

banzaibob on January 17, 2013 at 10:24 PM

And yet this man was reelected. Saying this fact is depressing don’t come close to cutting it.

Ukiah on January 17, 2013 at 10:24 PM

What about non-monetary issues? How are race relations now compared to four years ago? How much deeper is the divide and outright hatred between the different political parties? How much less feared are we by our enemies and less respected by our allies? There is nothing this administration hasn’t made worse. Nothing.

Night Owl on January 17, 2013 at 10:26 PM

And yet this man was reelected. Saying this fact is depressing don’t come close to cutting it.

Ukiah on January 17, 2013 at 10:24 PM

The majority are moochers, harlots on the dole. All who brung him, from the left to the right, may you be fully destroyed.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2013 at 10:26 PM

NBC wonders: Are we better off than we were four years ago?

MKH

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Mary, I don’t believe any “Head Honchos” at NBC care whether the general population of the U.S. is better off, or not.

As long as the U.S. continues sliding towards “absorption into the World Government”, they’re happy. That’s all that matters to them.

listens2glenn on January 17, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Such a brave and noble attempt at journalism by NBC – over two months after the election.

supernova on January 17, 2013 at 10:27 PM

I.e., he is run, his strings are pulled, by rich white people. He makes them rich and they enrich him.

The land is full of fools. Obama hates the middle and poor classes. He disdains them.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Agree… Not just any rich white people but the rich white liberal people we also know as Limousine Liberals… There is no bigger enemy to conservatism than the Limousine liberals who control Wall Street…

mnjg on January 17, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm….

@mmurraypolitics tweeted:
mmurraypolitics

Headline from new NBC/WSJ poll:

Public lowers expectations heading into Obama’s 2nd term

3 hours ago from twitter.com by editor
===========================================

https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics

canopfor on January 17, 2013 at 10:30 PM

Truth To Power (sarc)

Mark Murray ‏@mmurraypolitics

Says NBC/WSJ co-pollster Peter Hart (D):

https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics
===================================

“If 2009 was all about hope,

2013 is about the ability to cope.”

canopfor on January 17, 2013 at 10:34 PM

The imbecilic democrat electorate voted for a luciferian stooge out of ignorance and a desire to get back at those they see as more fortunate than them.

They are nothing but base ignoramuses.

tom daschle concerned on January 17, 2013 at 10:35 PM

In other words the Great Liberal Wet Dream Diversity Experiment has been a total and complete bust.

Who knew that electing a freakshow couple from Chicago would have this result? I mean besides most everyone here.

Bishop on January 17, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Bishop:Yes,..quite!!

************SCROTCHED and FLUKED************************:)

canopfor on January 17, 2013 at 10:36 PM

I chose to go from paying 50K$/year in taxes to $100/week….and now I’m paying $150/week due to the “fiscal cliff” deal. LIB…RIH…FU…need I say more?

LIB! T.E.A. PARTY forever!

Who is John Galt on January 17, 2013 at 10:37 PM

NBC wonders: Are we better off than we were four years ago?

“No, but we’d vote for him again if we could.” -NBC staff

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 17, 2013 at 10:45 PM

I’ve moved overseas to get away from many of the US federal taxes.

I’m better off, in spite of Obama’s bungling.

Wino on January 17, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Here’s the fun part……

The second term hasn’t even yet to begin. The parasites that gave the rat-eared wonder are most likely to be harmed by any downturn in the economy (which is coming). This is why the bastard is pushing through whatever he can now because his days of relevance are numbered. This is all about getting as many people slaves to the state as possible before the floor drops out. Gotta get rid of the guns, ingratiate yourself with the gays and illegals, and convince as many people as possible that they can’t make it without government assistance before that happens.

Happy Nomad on January 17, 2013 at 11:23 PM

I moved form California to Texas, so I’m better off. I don’t recall anybody from the government helping pack up all the stuff or drive it out, though.

trigon on January 17, 2013 at 11:27 PM

My paycheck is smaller. My expenses are higher (food, gas, especially).

Two years ago, my employer gave us unlimited sick leave. Now we get 2.5 days of sick leave, after which we have to use vacation if we’re out.

No, I don’t think I’m better off.

The Rogue Tomato on January 17, 2013 at 11:41 PM

Only Obamabundlers who were heads of (now)bankrupt green “energy” companies are better off than they were 4 years ago.

wildcat72 on January 17, 2013 at 11:49 PM

And more Americans live below the poverty level than they did four years ago.

Just give Obozo 4 more years, he’ll get those poverty numbers UP yet!

GarandFan on January 17, 2013 at 11:53 PM

Hopefully the frogs will jump out of the pan, alas.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2013 at 10:16 PM

And, in other news, the number of frogs applying for enrollment in the Social Security Disability program is exploding …

/s

RedPepper on January 18, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Bookmarked under: Sh…Stuff you just can’t make up

All those supporters hawking tickets because the economy is so bad, yet they voted for another four years of trickle up poverty.

No wonder Obama trotted out second graders to tell these folks how to think. Bless their little hearts, they really are that gullible.

I’m a firm believer in “you can’t fix stupid,” but good Lord…I had no idea it was really this bad. How did the democrat party effectively dumb down so many people?

BruthaMan on January 18, 2013 at 12:14 AM

Memo to NBC aka The Angria Mitchell Network:

If you have to ask how much… you can’t afford it.

viking01 on January 18, 2013 at 12:15 AM

If I have a boat that has a hole in it, and water is gushing in at 500 gallons per minute, all I have to do is use a pump that moves water at 500 gallons per minute.

I don’t have to fix the hole. The ship won’t sink, but it won’t be fixed, either. And as soon as I turn off the pump, the boat sinks.

This is the Obama economy, using a $6 trillion pump.

BobMbx on January 17, 2013 at 9:51 PM

And Obama is busy drilling more holes in the boat to let the water out.

ghostwalker1 on January 18, 2013 at 12:36 AM

On the other hand, there’s data indicating that the nation isn’t better off than it was four years ago

So, not only do they ask this question more than 2 months too late, but they make this comically understated admission.

Sounds like it should be coming from the Onion.

tom on January 18, 2013 at 3:15 AM

So, not only do they ask this question more than 2 months too late, but they make this comically understated admission.

Sounds like it should be coming from the Onion.

tom on January 18, 2013 at 3:15 AM

I think Rush calls that a random act of journalism.

It is stupefying to see all these monolithic news organizations dutifully reporting the DNC talking points. what is the point of even having journalists? its a sick joke. there is no curiosity or attempt at finding and reporting the truth. its like the Borg. never before in human history have we had such access to information and the ability to spread it, but 98% of what is reported is homogeneous bilge from one political party. and people are so blind and unwilling to question any of it. its like they are trapped in the matrix. just drones going hither and thither dutifully obeying their masters.

It really is pitiful.

tom daschle concerned on January 18, 2013 at 5:42 AM

mnjg on January 17, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2013 at 10:23 PM

No. The left just hasn’t figured out a way to butcher the cow without losing the milk.

The left hates Wall Street as much as you seem to.

The “record profits” and lack of a net worth among our citizens is a real problem that W tried to reduce with investment as part of the Social Security program. Not surprisingly, it scared the left to death. Imagine having the government losing a big group of sheepie who believe that the god on the Potomac is the only source of retirement security. So the average person pumps his chest about his HD TV, car or truck and getting his kids a worthless education and remains ignorant about investments and economic growth.

And he/she elects leaders who move ahead at the blazing 2% growth we have today.

Don’t blame Wall Street, bad as they are, they have been around doing real business longer than the carnival show on the Potomac.

IlikedAUH2O on January 18, 2013 at 5:51 AM

Destroying the Democrat “Losing Jobs” Myth

I wanted a good presidential debate for issues like this and maybe President Obama would have won the discussing, but I wanted the American people to hear it in the worst way.

A Democrat talking point is the job loss rate in 2008.

Well, anyone who know capitalism and Wall Street understands two things:

1) It is cyclical.

2) The markets operate by fear and greed.

We were in a panic in 2008 and to use the job loss then as some validation of how well we are growing now really stinks. I wish someone on Fox or elsewhere would look at the overall performance of the Bush administration for jobs and growth instead of letting the talking heads spout this statistic or other stats from a panic period as some kind of validation of the decade of misery we are now suffering. They did the same dadblurn thing with President Hoover and then President Roosevelt’s maple syrup in January economic management. The 1930′s were not the greatest period in history and WWII built our economy, not FDR.

When some liberal talks about the awful conditions in the end of 2008, I wish someone would offer that comment above or ask whether President Bush deserves credit since he stopped our losing 3,000 citizens a day to terror (Iraq was a bargain), or Nixon and Ford for saving 1,000 GI’s a day by ending the Viet Nam war (They pulled us out), or the miracle our Republican president’s pulled by stopping the small stock crashes that could be extended to our economic ruination during their term.

My economics guy has a comedy routine on this but I’m sure someone could do even better.

IlikedAUH2O on January 18, 2013 at 6:09 AM

I thought they went off the air after my grandma died yrs ago?
Wow, who knew those “old news” stations were even around. Next you’ll be telling me NPR is still around, com’on guys quit lyin.

mmcnamer1 on January 18, 2013 at 6:42 AM

NBC is asking that question NOW ?

Can’t wait to see what they latch onto next week.

Jabberwock on January 18, 2013 at 6:42 AM

NBC is asking that question NOW ?

Jabberwock on January 18, 2013 at 6:42 AM

It’s safe to ask it now, because the answer won’t affect the election.

The Rogue Tomato on January 18, 2013 at 8:41 AM

Sorry about typos above.

BTW, Mr. Austan Goolsbee seems to be this administration’s top economist. He is an affable, relaxed gentleman and even shows up on Fox. Very nice of him. Check and see how many other Obama honchos or top Dems show up there.

Why doesn’t anyone roast him over a spit?

IlikedAUH2O on January 18, 2013 at 9:22 AM

This is a curious article to see several months after a presidential election, isn’t it?

Good Lt on January 18, 2013 at 9:32 AM

You have to add all the Fed stimulus to the debt. Over $11 trillion of fiscal and monetary stimulus since 2009, with almost zero net new jobs to show for it.

Really, all they have done in 4 years is bail out the boat to keep it from sinking, they are not even trying to plug the holes anymore, much less actually fix the boat to make it seaworthy again. The holes are actually bigger (real unemployment, decline in labor force participation) than they were in 2009.

rockmom on January 18, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Great examination by the Single Party Media and only 6 months too late such that it might, just might possibly, educate & illuminate the LoInfoVoters. But most here know the reasons for the delay in this revealing story.
But just wait. Four years from NOW the debt will be closing in on $20 billion. The LIV class will be completely accoustomed to double digit inflation AND unemployment. By that time the average level of education and understanding of the NIV (No Information Voters) will not know what those numbers signify or mean to their well being.
Anyone see reasons not to doubt my projection?

Missilengr on January 18, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Forward Comrades!

Wander on January 18, 2013 at 11:43 AM

6 TRILLION DOLLARS is what 0bama borrowed. $15 TRILLION DOLLARS is what he has spent. Flushed right down the drain. We are headed toward bankruptcy while Iceland, which was in a far worse position in 2008, bit the bullet and is headed toward prosperity.

0bama’s economic policies are base at the very bottom of his argument that 1+1=POTATO and that there is no gravity, the world just sucks.

jukin3 on January 18, 2013 at 1:21 PM