Democrat introduces bill to restrict access by minors to violent video games

posted at 3:21 pm on January 17, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

During his media event yesterday to roll out his “comprehensive” plan to address gun violence, Barack Obama didn’t mention the entertainment industry at all, despite hints from Joe Biden that films, television, and video games would all be on the table for discussion.  Instead, another Democrat has picked up that issue in the House.  Rep. Jim Matheson (D-UT) has introduced legislation that would require all retailers to prevent the sale of violent video games to minors:

Rep. Jim Matheson (D-Utah) introduced a bill this week that would ban the sale of violent video games to minors.

The Supreme Court struck down a similar California law in 2011, ruling that the restriction violated the constitutional right to free speech.

Matheson’s Video Games Ratings Enforcement Act, H.R. 287, would make it illegal for anyone to ship, distribute, sell or rent a video game that does not bear a label from the Entertainment Software Ratings Board (ESRB) on the age-appropriateness of the game.

The ESRB, an industry self-regulatory group, already assigns age-based labels to video games, ranging from “C” for early childhood, “E” for everyone, “T” for teen, “M” for mature, and “AO” for adults only, but the system is entirely voluntary.

While I’m pleased that we’re finally getting around to talking about the culture that glorifies mindless violence, this is yet another piece of window dressing.  Passing laws enforcing ratings only makes government more expensive and does nothing to address the actual issue of violence glorification.  If anything, it gives restricted games even more cachet than before.  We will not solve the real underlying issues by passing legislation that infringes on either the First or Second Amendments, but by forcing the purveyors of violent entertainment to address market forces that should — if we can succeed in changing the culture — punish them through poor sales and bad reputations.

Besides, this has already been addressed once by the Supreme Court, as The Hill points out:

“Like the protected books, plays and movies that preceded them, video games communicate ideas — and even social messages,” Justice Antonin Scalia wrote in the court’s opinion.

He said that California’s argument that it could restrict speech directed at children is “unprecedented and mistaken.”

“No doubt a state possesses legitimate power to protect children from harm … but that does not include a free-floating power to restrict the ideas to which children may be exposed,” Scalia wrote.

Exactly.  The power of bad ideas can only be lessened by the expression of better ones.  If we start going down a path of censorship, then what other ideas will get restricted as unacceptable for children? Maybe religion, free market economics, and so on.  It’s up to parents to raise their children and teens and exercise some control on what comes into the house, whether that’s entertainment or anything else.

Joe Scarborough disagreed on today’s Morning Joe, mistakenly asserting that the Supreme Court hasn’t ruled on the First Amendment issues surrounding video game restrictions in a conversation with Tom Brokaw.  However, at least Scarborough and Brokaw bothered talking about the culture of violence, something Obama couldn’t be bothered to do.

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…what’s Joe going to do without his videos?

KOOLAID2 on January 17, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Hey, a lot of deaths are caused by alcohol! Let’s ban it!

I’m surprised nobody’s ever thought of this before!

Well, back to studying the Constitution…

Nethicus on January 17, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Rep. Jim Matheson (D-Utah) introduced a bill this week that would ban the sale of violent video games to minors

…WTF?…from Utah?

KOOLAID2 on January 17, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Rep. Jim Matheson (D-UT) has introduced legislation that would require all retailers to prevent the sale of violent video games to minors

Thanks a lot, Utah, for voting this idiot back into office instead of Mia Love. BTW, don’t retailers already refuse to sell M-rated video games to minors? Anytime I buy a movie or game that’s for the 18-and-up crowd, the store clerk has to click Yes that I’m old enough to buy the item. At least the major retailers like Wal-Mart and Worst Purchase(aka Best Buy) do that.

Doughboy on January 17, 2013 at 3:25 PM

“Hey Dad, what’s our Steam password again? Oh, yeah. Thanks.”

rogerb on January 17, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Exactly. The power of bad ideas can only be lessened by the expression of better ones.

In regards to video games I am highly skeptical that applies and I am somewhat sympathetic to parental permission to kids buying certain products.

rob verdi on January 17, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Minors can’t buy cigarettes and alcohol too.
I’m sure that has so totally stopped them from smoking and drinking , right ?

burrata on January 17, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Rep. Jim Matheson (D-UT) has introduced legislation that would require all retailers to prevent the sale of violent video games to minors

Thanks a lot, Utah, for voting this idiot back into office instead of Mia Love. BTW, don’t retailers already refuse to sell M-rated video games to minors? Anytime I buy a movie or game that’s for the 18-and-up crowd, the store clerk has to click Yes that I’m old enough to buy the item. At least the major retailers like Wal-Mart and Worst Purchase(aka Best Buy) do that.

Doughboy on January 17, 2013 at 3:25 PM

I do wonder is that by state law or just Wal-Mart policy?

rob verdi on January 17, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Personal responsibility, its the new badge of courage for conservatives/libertarians, who knew?

MarshFox on January 17, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Kids will start hanging out at Best Buy trying to get adults to buy videogames for them.

Machismo on January 17, 2013 at 3:27 PM

…was that a Herma Huntsman disiple or something?…the nanny bill from some dink in Utah?…Utah!

KOOLAID2 on January 17, 2013 at 3:28 PM

They already have an ESRB ‘Ratings’ system on video games. Just like the movie theaters have.

Most major video game retailers will not sell a video game to someone who appears to be younger than the ‘rating’ allows. They’re not supposed to — by law. Best Buy even carded me when I tried to buy a ‘Mature 17+’ game for my son as a gift. A war/combat game for XBOX360 called ‘Battlefield’ (or some such name). I definitely look older than 17 years old. Much older.

Good ol’ Big Government.

Don’t enforce the existing laws. Make new ones instead. Because it just feels so darn good – and it convinces your constituents that you really care. For when the next election arrives dontchya know.

SD Tom on January 17, 2013 at 3:29 PM

It would be fun to get the MPAA to mandate that all motion pictures featuring the depiction of any firearm should receive an automatic R rating, or better still an NC17.

rw on January 17, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Ding ding ding burrata

cmsinaz on January 17, 2013 at 3:31 PM

The industry already self regulates using ESRB ratings. Walmart will not sell you a video game rated M without an ID.

It’s just another power grab. Congress can’t bear the thought the private industry is doing something very nicely without government intervention.

Nephew Sam on January 17, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Comics are pretty violent too. Better ban them, or force them to make comics with fluffy bunnies and unicorns hugging rainbows and cuddling.

portlandon on January 17, 2013 at 3:32 PM

What’s wrong with requiring an ID to show proof of age?

“Hey Dad, what’s our Steam password again? Oh, yeah. Thanks.”

rogerb on January 17, 2013 at 3:25 PM

I hated that.

El_Terrible on January 17, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Because heaven forbid parents act like, ya know parents…and determine what movies, books, magazines, games, etc that their children consume. Nope, we can’t have that.

search4truth on January 17, 2013 at 3:34 PM

It would be fun to get the MPAA to mandate that all motion pictures featuring the depiction of any firearm should receive an automatic R rating, or better still an NC17.

rw on January 17, 2013 at 3:30 PM

The MPAA needs a major shakeup. It’s preposterous that you can have a movie where hundreds of people get gunned down(like Pearl Harbor), but as long as you keep the blood to a minimum, you can get away with a PG-13. Yet if you use more than one F-bomb, it’s automatically an R rating(except for the ultraliberal The American President which got away with 3 of them without losing its PG-13).

Doughboy on January 17, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Today the state is the parent.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Comics are pretty violent too. Better ban them, or force them to make comics with fluffy bunnies and unicorns hugging rainbows and cuddling.

portlandon on January 17, 2013 at 3:32 PM

No, not ban or censor, restrict access to minors. We do it with a lot of things.

It would be fun to get the MPAA to mandate that all motion pictures featuring the depiction of any firearm should receive an automatic R rating, or better still an NC17.

rw on January 17, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Why not? Hollywood is always trying to stick it to us, why not stick it to them?

El_Terrible on January 17, 2013 at 3:35 PM

That’s kind of unfair – here those people work all day blasting out coal and other resources and now they won’t be able to enjoy themselves with a video game?

Galt2009 on January 17, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Limousine liberals would not let is happen… They are the main makers and distributors of these video games…

mnjg on January 17, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Hey, don’t blame me – I voted for Mia Love.

gwelf on January 17, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Because heaven forbid parents act like, ya know parents…and determine what movies, books, magazines, games, etc that their children consume. Nope, we can’t have that.

search4truth on January 17, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Parents would still act like parents. You want your kid to play the newest Call of Duty game, buy it for them. No problem there.

…. I don’t blame video games, I used to play Grand Theft Auto when I was a kid (game where you can beat up prostitutes and steal their money) and I didn’t turn out toooooo bad.

El_Terrible on January 17, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Heads are exploding on the left over a proposal that they see as a violation of their 1st Amendment right to free speech.

Sauce for the gander.

UltimateBob on January 17, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Because heaven forbid parents act like, ya know parents…and determine what movies, books, magazines, games, etc that their children consume. Nope, we can’t have that.

search4truth on January 17, 2013 at 3:34 PM

That’s the next step. First, Congress will try to take control of the ESRB using legislation. (The ESRB is currently a private organization)

Next they will start policing parental decisions.

“You let your kids play Halo? You’re a bad parent. We’ll fine you $500 per occurrence.”

Nephew Sam on January 17, 2013 at 3:38 PM

I guess we’re lucky that the Cowboys and Indians game most Americans kids played for a long, long time has gone out of PC fashion and doesn’t need to be explicitly banned. Any play war games by kids in the backyard will result, however, in their immediate incarceration and total bans on their second amendment right when they achieve adulthood (26 years old, as per ObamaScare, now). Further, any mention of the word “gun” or “war” or anything else that is deemed violent by our benevolent leftist dictators will result in same – though the prison sentences for the kiddie criminals will be a bit lighter than those above.

In fact, kids will now be restricted from saying anything deemed “not nice” or playing any games that involve contact other than approved homosexual acts as has been detailed by Kevin “Fister” Jennings, Safe Schools Czar and Kiddie Homosexuality Instructor.

Lastly, all boys must wear nothing but pink.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Kids will start hanging out at Best Buy trying to get adults to buy videogames for them.

Machismo on January 17, 2013 at 3:27 PM

I think the kids these days download most of their games.

Which also shows how useless this law would be.

gwelf on January 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM

What’s wrong with requiring an ID to show proof of age?

El_Terrible on January 17, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Wait, are we talking about video games, drinking, or voting? /

Midas on January 17, 2013 at 3:44 PM

How did Mia Love lose in UT?

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2013 at 3:44 PM

It would be fun to get the MPAA to mandate that all motion pictures featuring the depiction of any firearm should receive an automatic R rating, or better still an NC17.

rw on January 17, 2013 at 3:30 PM

and the term ” firearm ” should also include hand gestures of guns !

burrata on January 17, 2013 at 3:45 PM

I’ll need a clarification of terms.

Define the following:

Child

Minor

Kid

BobMbx on January 17, 2013 at 3:45 PM

I am sick and tired of these Republicans shoving their morals down our throat…oh, wait.

ChrisL on January 17, 2013 at 3:46 PM

I think the kids these days download most of their games.

Which also shows how useless this law would be.

gwelf on January 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Well in theory those kids won’t have their own credit card or their parents’ passwords. That’s the domain of Mom and Dad though, not Big Brother.

Doughboy on January 17, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Minors can’t buy violent video games. I have to buy them for my kids. Bad Mom.

ctmom on January 17, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Wait, are we talking about video games, drinking, or voting? /

Midas on January 17, 2013 at 3:44 PM

All of the above. Still can’t believe its ‘racist’ to require ID to vote.

El_Terrible on January 17, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Ed,

You might want to do a story on a movie to be released soon from MTV in theaters called “Spring Break”, the trailer I saw today that apparently just came out. With James Franco and Selena Gomez. Now mind you this is being sold to teens and preteens and stars 3 ex Disney girls who are on a “natural born killers” spree with guns a blazing the whole movie. Machine guns. I nearly swallowed my lunch watching this BS trailer and it made me furious. Where’s nanny government demanding it be shelved??!!

Marcus on January 17, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Offer an amendment to ban rap for being too violent. Let Democrats choke on their own vomit.

Archivarix on January 17, 2013 at 3:51 PM

this will work unless someone figures out a way to use the internet to sell merchandise to the public and ship it to their house so they dont have to make a trip to a brick and mortar store to buy said item.

chasdal on January 17, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Uh, yeah – the same party that wants minors to have unrestricted access to abortions … Brilliant.

Pork-Chop on January 17, 2013 at 3:53 PM

“Spring Breakers” sorry

Marcus on January 17, 2013 at 3:54 PM

BTW, don’t retailers already refuse to sell M-rated video games to minors? Anytime I buy a movie or game that’s for the 18-and-up crowd, the store clerk has to click Yes that I’m old enough to buy the item. At least the major retailers like Wal-Mart and Worst Purchase(aka Best Buy) do that.

Doughboy on January 17, 2013 at 3:25 PM

I may be wrong, but most retailers sell M-rated, its the “A/O”(adults only) games no one will touch, and honestly, there are far and few of those out for consumption anyway. And yep, you get carded if you are going for an M rated game. I was on good terms with a guy at a GameStop and he was gone one day, I asked what happened, (hadn’t seen him for a while), and they said he was fired for selling to an under age kid. Sad as that sounds…

Gatsu on January 17, 2013 at 3:54 PM

They don’t respect the second amendment, why should you expect any different about the first (or 5th or 14th etc.)?

besser tot als rot on January 17, 2013 at 3:58 PM

How does this differ from the war on drugs?

If the logic is that by consuming this product you will flip out and grab a gun and start shooting people…

Well I gues it points out how stupid it is to blame the inanimate object for a social problem.

Snowblind on January 17, 2013 at 3:59 PM

I may be wrong, but most retailers sell M-rated, its the “A/O”(adults only) games no one will touch, and honestly, there are far and few of those out for consumption anyway. And yep, you get carded if you are going for an M rated game. I was on good terms with a guy at a GameStop and he was gone one day, I asked what happened, (hadn’t seen him for a while), and they said he was fired for selling to an under age kid. Sad as that sounds…

Gatsu on January 17, 2013 at 3:54 PM

I didn’t even know there was an A/O rating. What is that reserved for? The Leisure Suit Larry games? BTW, I bought the first one in that series for my old Apple IIGS back in the late 80′s before they had a ratings system. Ah, the good old days. When the most violent game on the market was Duck Hunt.

Doughboy on January 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Last time I worked at an “urban” area game stop, most of the sales were Madden and NBA games. I’m pretty sure the local blacks that do most of the killing with handguns are playing those instead of first person shooters. Which leads my to ask why isn’t rap music and Hollywood more at fault? Oh wait, their liberal… what was I thinking?

Static on January 17, 2013 at 4:02 PM

It is worth noting along these lines that a candy store in St. Paul Minnesota got fined $500 for selling candy cigarettes, which have been banned. Not for selling them to any kids, actually, but just for having them for sale. You can’t even buy them as an adult!

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 17, 2013 at 4:02 PM

OK then,

Say Jim,

Go ahead and put William Ayers book “Priarie Fire” on the banned by commie Democrats list, I’m sure Pres. Obama will approve.

sarc X 1000

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 17, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Offer an amendment to ban rap for being too violent. Let Democrats choke on their own vomit.

Archivarix on January 17, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Imagine the collective hissy fit from the hos and bichez of the Dem party
:D

burrata on January 17, 2013 at 4:04 PM

“…then what other ideas will get restricted as unacceptable for children?”

Fiscal responsibility…?

Seven Percent Solution on January 17, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Maybe if they limit the number of high capacity deaths per game?
The number seven seems to fit nicely into NY’s fantasy controls, after that, you’re at the mercy of the flash mobs, civilian army, or whatever….

Don L on January 17, 2013 at 4:07 PM

How did Mia Love lose in UT?

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2013 at 3:44 PM

That was the single most baffling result of the election. the post-election analysis I’ve read explains that (1) the Mathesons are basically one of the first families of Utah Mormonism; 2) Matheson clobbered her with early and frequent attack ads; (3) Incompent ground campaign management by the state and local GOP organizations; (4)Love was seen as spending too much time out of Utah during the campaign; and (5)Love was weak in some key media appearances.

The mistakes she made are unfortunate, but all correctable. Hope she runs again.

Robert_Paulson on January 17, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Maybe if they limit the number of high capacity deaths per game?
The number seven seems to fit nicely into NY’s fantasy controls, after that, you’re at the mercy of the flash mobs, civilian army, or whatever….

Don L on January 17, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Heh, how about limiting it to 7-round clips in video games?

Doughboy on January 17, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Hard to kill zombies with 7 round clips

rsherwd65 on January 17, 2013 at 4:18 PM

It’s up to parents to raise their children and teens and exercise some control on what comes into the house, whether that’s entertainment or anything else.

Yeah. Good luck on getting that from liberals who put absolutely no value on personal responsibility or self-awareness.

Parents parenting their children? It might interfere with their feelings or self-esteem.

kim roy on January 17, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Offer an amendment to ban rap for being too violent. Let Democrats choke on their own vomit.

Archivarix on January 17, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Only if its rap rap.

BobMbx on January 17, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Joe Scarborough disagreed on today’s Morning Joe, mistakenly asserting that the Supreme Court hasn’t ruled on the First Amendment issues surrounding video game restrictions in a conversation with Tom Brokaw.

You mean Joe was wrong…again?

More of his genius…

Joe Scarborough: Abandon Reagan for Powell

Resist We Much on January 17, 2013 at 4:26 PM

I didn’t even know there was an A/O rating. What is that reserved for? The Leisure Suit Larry games? BTW, I bought the first one in that series for my old Apple IIGS back in the late 80′s before they had a ratings system. Ah, the good old days. When the most violent game on the market was Duck Hunt.

Doughboy on January 17, 2013 at 4:01 PM

only game to use it in a long ass time is the uncut version of Manhunt 2 which was a DD release. Now a days, if your doing porn/hentai, you just don’t send it to esrb and just sell it un-rated

Doctor Zhivago on January 17, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Hard to kill zombies with 7 round clips

rsherwd65 on January 17, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Naw, ask any liberal and they’ll tell you that you kill them quickest by feeding them genetically engineered food (preferably molded into the shape of a person). Large capacity sodas won’t do the trick on the already dead.

Don L on January 17, 2013 at 4:34 PM

would make it illegal for anyone to ship, distribute, sell or rent a video game that does not bear a label from the Entertainment Software Ratings Board (ESRB) on the age-appropriateness of the game

F’en ridiculous. Those ESRB ratings aren’t free, they can actually be quite expensive, and no private group should ever have this much power.

strictnein on January 17, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Tom & Jerry? You’re next, you vicious animals.

John the Libertarian on January 17, 2013 at 4:43 PM

I’ll need a clarification of terms.

Define the following:

Child

Minor

Kid

BobMbx on January 17, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Anyone under the age of 26. Obama’s cleared that all up for us.

BigWyo on January 17, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Less X-Box and more nerf footballs

multiuseless on January 17, 2013 at 4:46 PM

WILL PEOPLE STOP THE VIDEO GAME BLAMING ALREADY. THIS IS SO ANNOYING. it’s a freaking video game. they don’t kill people and aren’t even used to kill people. (so they are even less dangerous than guns…) yet i keep seeing people blame video games!

there’s already a rating system in place to rate video games, and that’s fine on its own. we don’t need more laws. parents need to restrict access to kids’ video games if the games are too mature. why do we need government to?

all this video game blaming just because adam lanza played video games? what if he watched a lot of violent movies and read violent books, would we restrict those too?

and…

how are there so many idiots in utah who voted for this creepy guy instead of the awesome mia love?! =(

Sachiko on January 17, 2013 at 4:47 PM

F’en ridiculous. Those ESRB ratings aren’t free, they can actually be quite expensive, and no private group should ever have this much power.

strictnein on January 17, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Yes… this would actually hit small software companies pretty hard. A computer to code a game? $400. ESRB ratings before you ship it? $800+…
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/09/psp-minis-developer-surprised-by-cost-of-esrb-ratings/

Nephew Sam on January 17, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Oh blahblahblah videogames = “culture of violence”.

Newsflash, Ed, Japan, Australia, Sweden, Ireland, Switzerland, Denmark, and any other place you might consider to be a quite non violent country plays the exact same video games Americans do.

And nice attitude there, with saying “we” should push the eeeevil video game corporations to change their product by punishing them with poor sales and bad reputation. I love it when people with no awareness of an industry and who are clearly not customers in the first place say that “we” need to change it.

Daikokuco on January 17, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Comics are pretty violent too. Better ban them, or force them to make comics with fluffy bunnies and unicorns hugging rainbows and cuddling.

portlandon on January 17, 2013 at 3:32 PM

that’s what i always think when i see video game blaming. this blame attitude might eventually spread to comics, tv, books, etc. i read a lot of comics and am making my own. so that’s why this blame attitude bothers me.

Uh, yeah – the same party that wants minors to have unrestricted access to abortions … Brilliant.

Pork-Chop on January 17, 2013 at 3:53 PM

interesting point.

How does this differ from the war on drugs?

If the logic is that by consuming this product you will flip out and grab a gun and start shooting people…

Well I gues it points out how stupid it is to blame the inanimate object for a social problem.

Snowblind on January 17, 2013 at 3:59 PM

no way, you think video games and drugs are equal in terms of how dangerous they are? drugs are actually harmful substances you put into your body- they cause addictions and health problems and that’s a fact. but it’s not a fact that video games lead to mass murders- that’s never been proven. so that’s why those are two different things. one is dangerous and the other one isn’t. we shouldn’t understate the dangers of drugs. sadly, too many people don’t think drugs are that bad. they don’t take the issue seriously.

Sachiko on January 17, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Where is Tipper Gore when you need her?
Remember?
Tipper Gore and the Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC) back in 1985 with the stated goal of increasing parental control over the access of children to music deemed to be violent, have drug use or be sexual via labeling albums with Parental Advisory stickers.

albill on January 17, 2013 at 4:57 PM

drugs are actually harmful substances you put into your body- they cause addictions and health problems and that’s a fact. but it’s not a fact that video games lead to mass murders- that’s never been proven.

Sachiko on January 17, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Good thought… You’ve just pointed out a flaw in the argument against video games. ‘Correlation does not imply causality’.

For example, we could also look at how many murderers use a given brand of deodorant, how many play soccer, or how many eat oatmeal.

Video games are consumed on a massive scale, just like the examples I listed above.

Just because two stats correlate does not mean they are codependent.

Nephew Sam on January 17, 2013 at 5:03 PM

how are there so many idiots in utah who voted for this creepy guy instead of the awesome mia love?! =(

Sachiko on January 17, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Gee, lets ignore the obvious here. Utah is heavily Republican and heavily Mormon. What would cause them to pick a democrat then? Something in the Mormonism most likely….something to do with “lamanites” and an immense outside pressure to the cult that forced them to publicly ammend their sacred beliefs in 1978… an ingeniune epiphany in response to terrible press.

The answer why super-Republican Utah picked the democrat is the same reason why it took about 120 years for any of the Southern States to elect blacks or Republicans following reconstruction. Persistant beliefs.

Daikokuco on January 17, 2013 at 5:04 PM

no way, you think video games and drugs are equal in terms of how dangerous they are? drugs are actually harmful substances you put into your body- they cause addictions and health problems and that’s a fact. but it’s not a fact that video games lead to mass murders- that’s never been proven. so that’s why those are two different things. one is dangerous and the other one isn’t. we shouldn’t understate the dangers of drugs. sadly, too many people don’t think drugs are that bad. they don’t take the issue seriously.

Sachiko on January 17, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Total BS. I see you are an obedient little dupe of the DARE program’s baseless claims used to deceive children (who have limited reasoning skills and even less knowledge of how to verify the claims of those they are told are “authorities”).

People have died playing video games. Dehydration and starving to death. Videogamers can easily spend more time AND money pursuing their “hobby” than a recreational drug user does with theirs. Videogames are most CERTAINLY addictive (if they are any good). Ever played Civ or heard anyone talk about “Evercrack” or seen somebody become a WOW recluse?

Any metric you can come up with to claim “drugs are bad mkay”, any stupid anecdotal story, there are plenty of equivalents in video games.

Mind your own business. People like you and Matheson, who CLEARLY have no exeperience or knowledge of videogames or drugs, respectively, have no place telling other people that how they spend their time and money is unacceptable.

Or how would you like it if some useful idiot who has no first hand experience reguritates some stupid overhyped media BS like “manga and anime causes people to become awkward shut-in losers with no job prospects and terrible hygiene! There are over a million such victims of manga/anime in Japan alone! Harmful!”

Daikokuco on January 17, 2013 at 5:14 PM

The problem is what makes one kid who sits around playing these violent games into one who decides to leave the fantasy world and go kill people for real? That’s the problem that needs to be addressed. More laws won’t do it. Mental health programs might.

scalleywag on January 17, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Parents need to be more proactive and play violent video games with their children.

ninjapirate on January 17, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Apply Obama’s list of 23 standards to games as well as guns and we’ll have utopia. Simple.

Mason on January 17, 2013 at 6:12 PM

So, I missed the study that determined that these stress-relieving virtual games that allow people to blow off steam online instead of doing it in real life were somehow bad?

If someone wants to blow Palin’s or the NRA President’s head off online and gets a laugh out of it I’m all for it.

Get real, people. This is exactly why the Founder’s created the Constitution so that uptight liberals and RINOs would keep their paws off of society.

HopeHeFails on January 17, 2013 at 7:37 PM

Perhaps gun-video games should only be allowed on govermint regyalated virtual shooting ranges?

What about video games that depict guns that hold more than 7 bulllets, or those that show “assault-style” weapons?

The very idea of regulating these things is bad and the hope of enforcing such regulations absurd.

Mental cases watching Tom and Jerry (or Joe and Mika) are the real problem.

virgo on January 18, 2013 at 12:41 AM

Daikokuco on January 17, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Lulz. I’ve been gaming since you were a stain on the ****ing mattress, kiddo. Video Games are not, never have been, and never will be as damaging as hard drugs. Claiming otherwise based on a few anecdotal stories is beyond retarded.

You realize when people say “Evercrack” or “World of Warcrack” it’s a joke, right? Video Games can psychologically addict people, but so can movies, literature, music…any number of things.

Got any hard stats/studies on video games being more addictive than hard drugs? Yeah, didn’t think so. Stick to being a bad atheist troll; or, in terms you’ll more likely understand, GOML n00b. :)

Good Solid B-Plus on January 18, 2013 at 12:45 AM

Daikokuco on January 17, 2013 at 5:14 PM

That was sarcasm right? Halo or Call of Duty are as bad as meth? CoD is making kids hang out in alleys turnin tricks for battlefield/madden nfl/super mario bros. game?

My favorite story about this issue I heard from a gamestop employee a few years back. A kid comes into the story with his mother and he wants Grand Theft Auto 3 for his 12th birthday. The clerk told the mother all about the game and the rating system. Mom’s response was “well, he really wants it” and junior got his game.

Ted Kennedy didn’t need GTA and other video games to drive drunk off a pier and let his passenger drown to death. Maybe if he’d had Midtown Maddness or Burnout(1-3) he’d have not gone for a swim and you know, let Mary Jo die. We know he played Pole Position, with hookers later in life. Not on the atari 2600 though.

oryguncon on January 18, 2013 at 3:39 AM

Daikokuco, you have a fabulous sense of humor. I bet you are a very charismatic person.

tom daschle concerned on January 18, 2013 at 5:53 AM