Report: Multiple Americans among hostages held by jihadis after BP plant is seized over France’s Mali intervention; Update: Malian government asked U.S. to intervene last week

posted at 3:13 pm on January 16, 2013 by Allahpundit

The number of Americans could be as high as seven but the State Department hasn’t specified yet. Two workers, one British and one French, are reportedly already dead. Algeria’s a clever choice of targets, not only because France is using the country’s airspace for strikes in Mali but because putting Algerians at risk over French military action is bound to stoke old resentments. Step one in pushing the west out of Mali is turning local opinion against them. Step two is hitting westerners where they live to try to turn opinion at home against intervention too. Taking western workers hostage in an allied north African country does both simultaneously.

According to USA Today, the jihadis are from Mali — which is 600 miles from the BP plant — and negotiations are already under way:

Algerian forces surrounded the kidnappers and were negotiating for the release of the hostages, an Algerian security official based in the region told the Associated Press, adding that the militants had come from Mali. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the press.

According to the AP, the jihadis might not be from Mali and Algeria has sworn never, ever to negotiate with them:

Algerian forces have surrounded the complex and the state news agency reported a bit more than 20 people were being held, including Americans, Britons, Norwegians, French and Japanese, citing the local authorities.

“Algeria will not respond to terrorist demands and rejects all negotiations,” Interior Minister Daho Ould Kablia said on television. He denied that the militants were from Mali or Libya, possibly suggesting they were from Algeria itself.

There are, allegedly, 41 hostages in all. A spokesman for the jihadi group, which was founded by a former leader of Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, says they have seven captives at the plant and the rest at the residential complex where plant workers live, which complicates things for special operations planning. The spokesman also claims they’ve planted mines around the refinery to prevent any ground attack. I wonder how long Obama will give the Algerian military to try to resolve this before he decides his “Al Qaeda is on the run” talking point requires American action.

France, incidentally, vowed yesterday to keep troops in Mali until stability is restored; French soldiers were on their way today to Diabaly, the southern Malian town seized earlier this week by jihadis, to engage “direct combat” to try to retake it. Jihadis are countering by spreading out inside the town and embedding with local families to maximize their human-shield protection. (“We are in a classic counterinsurrectionary situation,” said one French military expert.) Why commit to a war as ugly as intractable as that? Because, say the French, it can’t wait any longer:

Marc Trévidic—France’s leading investigating magistrate on Islamist terrorism tells TIME that northern Mali and the wider Sahel had become such a vivid arena of jihadi recruitment, combat, terror training, and control that it’s threat to African and European security was too great to ignore any longer. Allowing it to develop further, Trévidic argues, would have been tantamount to letting a pre-9/11 Afghanistan flourish in a place just a few hours away from Europe by plane. “We know individuals left France for Mali in order to join Islamists in the north for training, and know people had been tasked with creating recruitment networks for that jihad,” says Trévidic, whose new book, Terrorists: The Seven Pillars of Madness, examines various aspects of radical development—and surveillance of budding extremists. “That flow has increased over the months, and it’s clear that stream will eventually reverse itself as trained terror operatives head back for France and Europe. It has to be cut.”

They’re expecting attempted terror attacks in France too, of course, possibly by African jihadis traveling to Europe or possibly by jihadis who are already in France and willing to act at the behest of African jihadi groups. Meanwhile, the negotiations in Algeria continue. Stand by for updates.

Update: Reuters explains the economic significance of the target and how the west’s last intervention inadvertently helped place it in jeopardy:

The attack could have implications for security across the whole of Algeria’s energy sector, which supplies about a quarter of Europe’s natural gas imports and exports millions of barrels of crude oil each year.

Such an attack would require a large and heavily armed insurgent force with a degree of freedom to move around, all elements that al Qaeda has not previously had.

However, the conflict in neighboring Libya in 2011 changed the balance of force. Security experts say al Qaeda was able to obtain arms, including heavy weapons, from the looted arsenals of former leader Muammar Gaddafi.

Update: With America’s last attempt to build a counterterror force inside Mali having failed utterly, will Obama respond to requests for a second try?

The besieged government in Mali asked the United States last week for military help to repel al-Qaeda-linked militants, a senior U.S. official said Wednesday. The disclosure appeared to contradict earlier U.S. characterizations that only France had been asked to intervene.

“The Malian government made a specific request of the United States, as they did the French, several days ago for assistance in combatting the threat posed by the rebels,” in the country’s north, the State Department official said.

Minor problem: Because the Malian military — which was trained by U.S. forces — overthrew the democratically elected government last year, the U.S. is now barred by law from intervening directly to help. Bear that in mind for when the inevitable stories start appearing at the Times or the Washington Post next month about how Obama is using drones and secret Special Ops to assist them after all. If he can ignore the War Powers Act in Libya, why can’t he ignore this?


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Awww c’mon, it’s not like Bostonians could get sick from something people put in the water supply or anything…

To be fair, “attacking” a reservoir is massive undertaking…It’s not exactly like you are putting cyan!de into Aunt Esther’s lemonade. Any adulteration involves a massive volume of chemicals and an equally complex means to mix those chemicals into a fairly substantial volume of water.

JFKY on May 16, 2013 at 2:00 PM

Obama said today that he does NOT support an Independet Counsel being appointed for ANY of the scandals….

The bottom line is if Holder des not call for an Independent Counsel it will NOT HAPPEN, they will be able to get away with all of it, & there is nothing anyone can do about it.

easyt65 on May 16, 2013 at 2:01 PM

MY Preezy? If he’s mine, he’s just as much yours, isn’t he? Or when did I become a fan of Obama, in your mind?

JFKY on May 16, 2013 at 1:55 PM

:) not yours as in ‘you voted for him’ :), of course not… ‘your preezy’ (and mine too, I suspect, but then I’m in denial :) as in your (and our) collective curse…but only for 2 more years or so…I’m looking fwd to the last two lame duck years of his preezydency…

jimver on May 16, 2013 at 2:04 PM

I think Jon Stewart needs to add to that skit decrying government incompetence highlighted on the Internet a day or two ago.

This is the stuff government needs to be worrying about. Not people wearing “Don’t Tread on Me” shirts.

WTH is going on in this administration.

BuckeyeSam on May 16, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Obama’s administration / term in office so far:

FAILURE & SCANDAL!

easyt65 on May 16, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Brat, great find. Thanks.

Schadenfreude on May 16, 2013 at 2:10 PM

INCOMPETENCE is the hallmark of this administration. Starting in the Oval Office.

GarandFan on May 16, 2013 at 2:10 PM

The U.S. Marshal Service has been “unable to locate” two former participants in the federal Witness Security Program “identified as known or suspected terrorists,” states the public summary of an interim Justice Department Inspector General’s report obtained by CNN

Only credible option: crowdsource.

Names, photos, known acquaintences and known addresses.

Time to take your lumps with the rest of them, US Marshalls.

socalcon on May 16, 2013 at 2:12 PM

jimver on May 16, 2013 at 2:04 PM

I hope and pray, most earnestly, that the last years are mired in controversy and scandal….and a painful inability to accomplish much of anything, I prepare for a “good” 2014.

JFKY on May 16, 2013 at 2:13 PM

“The inspector general’s office says some in the witness protection program who were on the government’s no-fly list were allowed to board commercial flights.”

Well why not? It’s not like they were planning on praying the rosary in front of a Planned Parenthood Clinic or something terroristy like that.

Lily on May 16, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Obama’s administration / term in office so far:

FAILURE & SCANDAL!

Hmmm, scandal has been a feature of many a president’s second term, even if it boiled over from the first.

Maybe a president should only serve one term. That makes for more than enough potential scandal.

hawkeye54 on May 16, 2013 at 2:15 PM

The DoJ also failed to update the Terrorist Screening Center, which runs the no-fly lists

{facepalm}

socalcon on May 16, 2013 at 2:16 PM

I didn’t know about the IG REPORT…(of course, knowing about what the IRS was doing is another story…)

easyt65 on May 16, 2013 at 2:18 PM

hawkeye54 on May 16, 2013 at 2:15 PM

MAYBE we just shouldn’t elect inexperienced Communist-tutored (Frank Marshall Davis) hate-spewing racist Communist-based Black Liberation theology pastor-mentored (Wright), Socialist Ideologist-quoting (Saul Alinsky) Community Organizers as President, especially one who plans to put a scndal-plagued Eric Holder in charge of the DOJ & a tax cheat in charge of the Treasury?! Just saying…

easyt65 on May 16, 2013 at 2:21 PM

I hope and pray, most earnestly, that the last years are mired in controversy and scandal….and a painful inability to accomplish much of anything, I prepare for a “good” 2014.

JFKY on May 16, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Same here…methinks we are getting a preview of how his last two tears in office will look like…good news is that by then his political capital would have been spent and exhausted, so that his lame duck years will be even lamer…all these scandals will take a toll which makes me really optimistic about 2014…

jimver on May 16, 2013 at 2:29 PM

MAYBE we just shouldn’t elect inexperienced Communist-tutored (Frank Marshall Davis) hate-spewing racist Communist-based Black Liberation theology pastor-mentored (Wright), Socialist Ideologist-quoting (Saul Alinsky) Community Organizers as President, especially one who plans to put a scndal-plagued Eric Holder in charge of the DOJ & a tax cheat in charge of the Treasury?! Just saying…

No we shouldn’t have. But Barry was the perfect stooge at the perfect time for this job. His election was carefully coordinated by a crafty organization and abetted by the LSM. It was certainly an effort he could have never have hoped to coordinate on his own.

A mastermind he is not.

hawkeye54 on May 16, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Awww c’mon, it’s not like Bostonians could get sick from something people put in the water supply or anything…

To be fair, “attacking” a reservoir is massive undertaking…It’s not exactly like you are putting cyan!de into Aunt Esther’s lemonade. Any adulteration involves a massive volume of chemicals and an equally complex means to mix those chemicals into a fairly substantial volume of water.

JFKY on May 16, 2013 at 2:00 PM

And don’t they perform daily water test/analysis anyways? you’d think that a basic test would reveal the chemicals that are not supposed to be in there, especially if they are in lethal quantities…it’s not quite the Middle Age with the Borgias or the Medicis poisoning the water wells of their enemies :)…

jimver on May 16, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Probably placed them in a munitions factory…no one would ever look there…

right2bright on May 16, 2013 at 2:51 PM

government is good for you! let’s make it bigger!!

Sachiko on May 16, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Isn’t keeping track of terrorists racist or something?

We’ll have to wait till they join a tea party. Then they’ll find them for sure.

PattyJ on May 16, 2013 at 4:17 PM

The Justice Department’s inspector general says the department failed to provide the names of some terrorists in the witness protection program to the government’s Terrorist Screening Center.The center maintains the watch list that’s used to keep dangerous people off airline flights. …

Which name: their original one, or the one they use in the WPP?
Or the false one they are going to use once they get fake documents?

AesopFan on May 16, 2013 at 4:21 PM

It’s all a conspiracy to deny Hillary her turn at the wheel. Dirty Mysogynysts.

abobo on May 16, 2013 at 5:47 PM

To be fair, “attacking” a reservoir is massive undertaking…
 
JFKY on May 16, 2013 at 2:00 PM

 
And don’t they perform daily water test/analysis anyways? …
 
jimver on May 16, 2013 at 2:37 PM

 
The problem is that any highly-public “attack” would close smaller/on-site reservoirs until they could be tested, drained, cleaned, tested again, verified, etc. Then the equipment. Then the distribution system (the comical part is realizing where the water from the flushed lines would go.)
 
The country re-elected Obama. It’s not a stretch that many or most of them would think one gallon of ________ in a 100 million gallon tank would kill them.

rogerb on May 16, 2013 at 8:46 PM

There are two ways to go after a reservoir.

First is the water, but that hasn’t been treated yet so you are unlikely to do much there.

Second is the dam, which is an earthen dike for the Quabbin Reservoir.

I have a t-shirt around here someplace that says: ‘There is no problem that can’t be solved with the suitable application of high explosives.’

ajacksonian on May 16, 2013 at 9:06 PM

“Man arrested at Boise Bench home on terrorism charges…

BOISE — Federal agents have arrested 30-year-old Fazliddin Kurbanov, who was living at a Boise Bench home, as part of a federal terrorism investigation.

The U.S. Attorney says federal terrorism charges were filed Thursday afternoon in Boise and Salt Lake City, Utah.

Kurbanov is an Uzbekistan national and is legally in the United States.

Kurbanov has been indicted by a federal grand jury in Boise on three counts; one count of conspiracy to provide material support to a designated foreign terrorist organization, one count of conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists and one count of possessing an unregistered destructive device.

A federal grand jury in Salt Lake City also returned an indictment charging Kurbanov with one count of distribution of information relating to explosives, destructive devices, and weapons of mass destruction.

Government officials say this arrest was the culmination of an investigation by the FBI’s Salt Lake Division, which covers Idaho and Utah; and Joint Terrorism Task Forces in Idaho and Utah, which include a number of federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies.

Federal agents have been closely monitoring Kurbanov’s activities for any potential threat….

KTVB has learned that Kurbanov has a police record here in Idaho. He was pulled over for traffic violations in three different Idaho counties over the past two years.”

http://www.ktvb.com/news/FBI-conducts-investigation-on-Boise-bench-207753341.html

workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 9:08 PM

To be fair, “attacking” a reservoir is massive undertaking…It’s not exactly like you are putting cyan!de into Aunt Esther’s lemonade. Any adulteration involves a massive volume of chemicals and an equally complex means to mix those chemicals into a fairly substantial volume of water. – JFKY on May 16, 2013 at 2:00 PM

Large amounts of ricin can be fairly easily made, radioactive isotopes in even modest amounts can be detected, and botulin is extremely toxic in small amounts. The entire reservoir need not be made highly lethal; detections of toxicity need only be high enough to close down the reservoir for some time and cause fear or even panic. That’s what terror is about.

Of course, these foreign Muslims from Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Singapore were trespassing in the middle of the night only for the purposes of making observations of the water supply for their “education and career interests” , and they are not (as the media is making a point of) known to be connected to criminal groups. So nothing to worry about, move along unless you’re a greasy racist Islamophobe.

Chessplayer on May 17, 2013 at 11:21 AM

The picture in the caption is priceless and says it all!

rjoco1 on May 17, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Just as Ed used the word “unexpected” for months (years?) regarding the growth in unemployment, perhaps the word “Incompetent” should be used with this administration every time one of these incredible messups occurs. It’s time that the truth be told – either this administration is really into “changing America as we know it” – that is, changing America to a hunting ground against decent Americans or it is incredibly incompetent and the word must be used.

Who else is getting their phone tapped?

MN J on May 19, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Hello all

can someone tell me what this triple face palm photo is from. I just noticed it reoccurs, anyone?

Thanks in advance.

Observation on May 19, 2013 at 3:53 PM

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