Report: Multiple Americans among hostages held by jihadis after BP plant is seized over France’s Mali intervention; Update: Malian government asked U.S. to intervene last week

posted at 3:13 pm on January 16, 2013 by Allahpundit

The number of Americans could be as high as seven but the State Department hasn’t specified yet. Two workers, one British and one French, are reportedly already dead. Algeria’s a clever choice of targets, not only because France is using the country’s airspace for strikes in Mali but because putting Algerians at risk over French military action is bound to stoke old resentments. Step one in pushing the west out of Mali is turning local opinion against them. Step two is hitting westerners where they live to try to turn opinion at home against intervention too. Taking western workers hostage in an allied north African country does both simultaneously.

According to USA Today, the jihadis are from Mali — which is 600 miles from the BP plant — and negotiations are already under way:

Algerian forces surrounded the kidnappers and were negotiating for the release of the hostages, an Algerian security official based in the region told the Associated Press, adding that the militants had come from Mali. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the press.

According to the AP, the jihadis might not be from Mali and Algeria has sworn never, ever to negotiate with them:

Algerian forces have surrounded the complex and the state news agency reported a bit more than 20 people were being held, including Americans, Britons, Norwegians, French and Japanese, citing the local authorities.

“Algeria will not respond to terrorist demands and rejects all negotiations,” Interior Minister Daho Ould Kablia said on television. He denied that the militants were from Mali or Libya, possibly suggesting they were from Algeria itself.

There are, allegedly, 41 hostages in all. A spokesman for the jihadi group, which was founded by a former leader of Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, says they have seven captives at the plant and the rest at the residential complex where plant workers live, which complicates things for special operations planning. The spokesman also claims they’ve planted mines around the refinery to prevent any ground attack. I wonder how long Obama will give the Algerian military to try to resolve this before he decides his “Al Qaeda is on the run” talking point requires American action.

France, incidentally, vowed yesterday to keep troops in Mali until stability is restored; French soldiers were on their way today to Diabaly, the southern Malian town seized earlier this week by jihadis, to engage “direct combat” to try to retake it. Jihadis are countering by spreading out inside the town and embedding with local families to maximize their human-shield protection. (“We are in a classic counterinsurrectionary situation,” said one French military expert.) Why commit to a war as ugly as intractable as that? Because, say the French, it can’t wait any longer:

Marc Trévidic—France’s leading investigating magistrate on Islamist terrorism tells TIME that northern Mali and the wider Sahel had become such a vivid arena of jihadi recruitment, combat, terror training, and control that it’s threat to African and European security was too great to ignore any longer. Allowing it to develop further, Trévidic argues, would have been tantamount to letting a pre-9/11 Afghanistan flourish in a place just a few hours away from Europe by plane. “We know individuals left France for Mali in order to join Islamists in the north for training, and know people had been tasked with creating recruitment networks for that jihad,” says Trévidic, whose new book, Terrorists: The Seven Pillars of Madness, examines various aspects of radical development—and surveillance of budding extremists. “That flow has increased over the months, and it’s clear that stream will eventually reverse itself as trained terror operatives head back for France and Europe. It has to be cut.”

They’re expecting attempted terror attacks in France too, of course, possibly by African jihadis traveling to Europe or possibly by jihadis who are already in France and willing to act at the behest of African jihadi groups. Meanwhile, the negotiations in Algeria continue. Stand by for updates.

Update: Reuters explains the economic significance of the target and how the west’s last intervention inadvertently helped place it in jeopardy:

The attack could have implications for security across the whole of Algeria’s energy sector, which supplies about a quarter of Europe’s natural gas imports and exports millions of barrels of crude oil each year.

Such an attack would require a large and heavily armed insurgent force with a degree of freedom to move around, all elements that al Qaeda has not previously had.

However, the conflict in neighboring Libya in 2011 changed the balance of force. Security experts say al Qaeda was able to obtain arms, including heavy weapons, from the looted arsenals of former leader Muammar Gaddafi.

Update: With America’s last attempt to build a counterterror force inside Mali having failed utterly, will Obama respond to requests for a second try?

The besieged government in Mali asked the United States last week for military help to repel al-Qaeda-linked militants, a senior U.S. official said Wednesday. The disclosure appeared to contradict earlier U.S. characterizations that only France had been asked to intervene.

“The Malian government made a specific request of the United States, as they did the French, several days ago for assistance in combatting the threat posed by the rebels,” in the country’s north, the State Department official said.

Minor problem: Because the Malian military — which was trained by U.S. forces — overthrew the democratically elected government last year, the U.S. is now barred by law from intervening directly to help. Bear that in mind for when the inevitable stories start appearing at the Times or the Washington Post next month about how Obama is using drones and secret Special Ops to assist them after all. If he can ignore the War Powers Act in Libya, why can’t he ignore this?


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God protect those Americans. With the friend of the Muslim Brotherhood in the Oval office, they’re choomed.

kingsjester on January 16, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Strongly-worded letters coming.

But not now. Obama’s got some more bloody-shirt waving on the graves of children to squeeze political points out of.

Good Lt on January 16, 2013 at 3:18 PM

…Arab Spring!
…the children!

KOOLAID2 on January 16, 2013 at 3:18 PM

I just wanna know who made the video that set this in motion. The fargin bastage.

Also, since this is being classified -apparently- as terrorism rather than what it really is (guerrilla warfare), let’s hope the kidnapped don’t have families who’ll miss them. The law enforcement approach favored by this administration leaves a lot to be desired in the “swift justice” department.

BKeyser on January 16, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Its Zero Dark Thirty’s fault.

Bevan on January 16, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Bumps in the road.

Mark1971 on January 16, 2013 at 3:25 PM

I know – let’s send our ambassador from Libya over to help….oh wait…

Hillary??? Where’s Kerry? What? You can’t find either one of them?

Send whats her name – ahhhh Rice – no not Condi – she worked for Bush – the other Rice….
What – she’s on vacation? Oh – she’s in Africa now??? On safari??

OK – maybe she can stop over in Algeria…yes thats in Africa…..

redguy on January 16, 2013 at 3:26 PM

So will Hussein release the blind sheikh this time ?
You know to free ” American hostages”?
Or will he give more money and guns to some muzie ” rebels” , and win another Nobel Prize ?

burrata on January 16, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Time to let some more Muslims into Europe, I’m sure they will be helpful in all matters of jihad, social living, and making Europe better. ///

hip shot on January 16, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Well I suppose it will soon be time for Hillary to get another Immaculate Concussion. But there is no need to worry as John Kerry will soon be reporting for duty.

VorDaj on January 16, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Now let me be perfectly clear. The rooms here in Vegas are top-knotch and this can wait until after I’m/Lincoln(is) inaugurated. And let me be clear once again, the events that will transpire with be designated as a bit sloppy, a bit of a bump in the road so-to-speak. And let me be clear once again, no guns will be used because guns are bad, mmmmkay?

ahlaphus on January 16, 2013 at 3:28 PM

With America’s last attempt to build a counterterror force inside Mali having failed utterly, will Obama respond to requests for a second try?

Heh, maybe Obama can send Eric Holder over with a list of EO’s on gun control????
Don’t the insurgents know that Obama is busy taking guns from Americans!!!!

redguy on January 16, 2013 at 3:28 PM

can we hurry and confirm Hagel as SecDef? He’ll know exactly what to do to appease these cuddly rebels…

Please don’t let the French send in their special ops to bungle another rescue with US lives at stake. I predict we will quietly handle this one ourselves…

thurman on January 16, 2013 at 3:28 PM

“The future must not belong to those who insult the Prophet of Islam!”

VorDaj on January 16, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Hurry, time for another photo op…and doggone it, make sure their are more women in the photo…and a couple of them colored folk, a Mexican would be nice, no Asian’s, they are too smart, bring in a parent of one of the Sandy Hook victim’s…let’s go men, we have a photo op to take care of…Biden, put on your game face…

right2bright on January 16, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Quick. Apologize for the video!

Ben Hur on January 16, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Obozo hates black people.

Flange on January 16, 2013 at 3:30 PM

It was that bad Van Damme movie, in which he was a Foreign Legionaire that caused it. I know it was.

kingsjester on January 16, 2013 at 3:30 PM

The besieged government in Mali asked the United States last week for military help to repel al-Qaeda-linked militants, a senior U.S. official said Wednesday.

Silly Malians, they think Hussein will help them AGAINST alqaeda ?
Bbbbbaaaawwhahahhhaaaahhhaaaahhhaaa :O

burrata on January 16, 2013 at 3:30 PM

I guess the government of Mali didn’t get the memo that Obama is FOR the jihadis. The hostages are as good as dead.

Dan_Yul on January 16, 2013 at 3:34 PM

The number of Americans could be as high as seven but the State Department hasn’t specified yet.

Seven Americans? That’s just three more than in Benghazi and no one apparently gave a rat’s ass about them.

Doughboy on January 16, 2013 at 3:34 PM

ABC news fires up Nightline and starts counting — Day 1: America Held Hostage

Oh, wait, first (half) black president…never mind, nothing to see here.

The Rogue Tomato on January 16, 2013 at 3:34 PM

I wonder if those workers would not have rather been fracking in the U.S.A.

VorDaj on January 16, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Wait a minute. How could jihadists have done this? According to John Brennan, our new potential CIA Director, jihad is only an inward search to improve oneself.

TarheelBen on January 16, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Not optimal.

vcferlita on January 16, 2013 at 3:35 PM

SCOAMF: Part Deux

Rocks on January 16, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Smart Power!

Good job, Obama!

Midas on January 16, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Please don’t let the French send in their special ops to bungle another rescue with US lives at stake. I predict we will quietly handle this one ourselves…

thurman on January 16, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Don’t be too hard on the French, they have been training hard…however, this has come at a bad time, the military union is organizing a strike, and they may not be available until the strike is over…

right2bright on January 16, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Americans (do-gooders and people working in volatile Muslim countries) are going to have to realize their are on their own if they are taken hostage or kidnapped. Too meny members of the U.S. military have been killed trying to save do-gooders in Afghanistan.

bw222 on January 16, 2013 at 3:39 PM

However, the conflict in neighboring Libya in 2011 changed the balance of force. Security experts say al Qaeda was able to obtain arms, including heavy weapons, from the looted arsenals of former leader Muammar Gaddafi.

Smart power! Leading from behind! Arab spring!

The anti-Midas effect is getting more powerful.

rbj on January 16, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Well that’s a big mistake…Obama will have to announce he will hunt them down and punish them…

right2bright on January 16, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Wonder if dear hill will be way way too busy to testify on benghazi at the end of the month?

Dang isn’t bho suppose to be sworn in and have all those fancy balls soon? We can’t have anything getting in the way of bho/mo’s fun time now can we? This has to be handled stat!
L

letget on January 16, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Air-drop cases of condoms and gay pr0n mags, that’ll fix it!

Midas on January 16, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Having named their country after Obama’s daughter, they naturally expected him to chip in with some humanitarian aid.

Archivarix on January 16, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Alqaeda is dead and union thugs are alive..
…sorry…
what was it that you used to say Biden ?

burrata on January 16, 2013 at 3:41 PM

What would Mitt Romney have done in this situation?

SC.Charlie on January 16, 2013 at 3:41 PM

The anti-Midas effect is getting more powerful.

rbj on January 16, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Hey, hey – no need to get personal about it here…

Oh, wait…

Midas on January 16, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Americans (do-gooders and people working in volatile Muslim countries) are going to have to realize their are on their own if they are taken hostage or kidnapped. Too meny members of the U.S. military have been killed trying to save do-gooders in Afghanistan.

bw222 on January 16, 2013 at 3:39 PM

More Americans would be saved, would have been saved if we were energy independent…more than any gun control could ever imagine.

right2bright on January 16, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Why commit to a war as ugly as intractable as that? Because, say the French, it can’t wait any longer:

Love it when the FRENCH “go it alone” and tell the world “it just can’t wait.”

**eyeroll**

Resist We Much on January 16, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Alqaeda is dead and union thugs are alive..
…sorry…
what was it that you used to say Biden ?

burrata on January 16, 2013 at 3:41 PM

And, Chrysler IS building Jeeps in China…and Russia and Italy, too.

Resist We Much on January 16, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Time to let some more Muslims into Europe, I’m sure they will be helpful in all matters of jihad, social living, and making Europe better. ///

hip shot on January 16, 2013 at 3:27 PM

We have more than enough Muslims in the U.S. now.

bw222 on January 16, 2013 at 3:43 PM

This situation demands that a hostage negotiator be send to get those Americans released.
I suggest Barneee Faank.
He’s the best ;-)

burrata on January 16, 2013 at 3:43 PM

“We will not rest until . . .”

mwbri on January 16, 2013 at 3:45 PM

“Preezy of teh United Steezy” Barack Hussein Obama is in charge.

The hostages will be just fine. What could possibly go wrong?

SD Tom on January 16, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Update: Malian government

Leave 0bama’s daughter alone!!!!!!!

UltimateBob on January 16, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Our civilian leadership has no idea whatsoever of how to deal with this. None.
Keep our military out of it until we have some idea of what is going on.

Jabberwock on January 16, 2013 at 3:47 PM

“Carter II / Amercian Iran Mali hostage”

The play is looking worse and worse.

At least Carter didn’t hide behind an ally to lead the rescue.

Sir Napsalot on January 16, 2013 at 3:48 PM

And, Chrysler IS building Jeeps in China…and Russia and Italy, too.

Resist We Much on January 16, 2013 at 3:42 PM

And 0bama IS raising taxes on people making under $250,000 a year, and he IS going after your guns, too.

UltimateBob on January 16, 2013 at 3:48 PM

“Let me be clear . . .”

mwbri on January 16, 2013 at 3:48 PM

All hail dear leader

cmsinaz on January 16, 2013 at 3:48 PM

These terrorists have not heard that they were supposed to hand in their “illegal” weapons. Wasn’t that in Obama’s speech today?

SC.Charlie on January 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Something tells me that the Blind Sheik is getting ready for a plane ride…

Seven Percent Solution on January 16, 2013 at 3:50 PM

I am sure all in the US military are just waiting for their chance to serve Obama….yeah right!

Good luck Obummer – soon you will be on your own. Maybe the gays that are serving will
be champing at the bit to show you just what they are made of……

The next 4 years will be a lot of failures to communicate…..what? I thought you said
stand down – you remember like in Libya…..

redguy on January 16, 2013 at 3:50 PM

And, Chrysler IS building Jeeps in China…and Russia and Italy, too.

Resist We Much on January 16, 2013 at 3:42 PM

And to think the left laughed at Romney.
Here we are with Mali before us BEFORE the inauguration.

I’d like to know what stocks he bought today.

Jabberwock on January 16, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Something tells me that the Blind Sheik is getting ready for a plane ride…

Seven Percent Solution on January 16, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Too bad if the door of the airplane fell off and he slide out of the plane by accident. Ahem….

redguy on January 16, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Speed bumps.

Little Boomer on January 16, 2013 at 3:52 PM

senator rubio, 2016 presidential nominee, is already petitioning for the affected malians to be granted US citizenship.

renalin on January 16, 2013 at 3:52 PM

And, Chrysler IS building Jeeps in China…and Russia and Italy, too.

Resist We Much on January 16, 2013 at 3:42 PM

And 0bama IS raising taxes on people making under $250,000 a year, and he IS going after your guns, too.

UltimateBob on January 16, 2013 at 3:48 PM

So Rep Joe Wilson was right after all ? WOW :)

burrata on January 16, 2013 at 3:52 PM

The White House must be ecstatic over this as they finally got their hostage situation.

Over to you, Barack.

mustng66 on January 16, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Love it when the FRENCH “go it alone” and tell the world “it just can’t wait.”

**eyeroll**

Resist We Much on January 16, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Sounded to me as if it can’t wait because there are now enough muslims in their country that the French fear them. They should have thought about that awhile ago.

Night Owl on January 16, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Completely.Predictable.

When the French announced air strikes, it was only a matter of when and where.

Saw Zero Dark Thirty. A very, very good movie.

MichaelGabriel on January 16, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Send the terrorists a copy of Bark’s Cairo Speech and remind them that they are supposed to be selling balloons now that the historic first black POTUS of America is running the show.

Who do they think they are exactly?

Bishop on January 16, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Our civilian leadership has no idea whatsoever of how to deal with this. None.
Keep our military out of it until we have some idea of what is going on.

Jabberwock on January 16, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Sure they do, but their ideas would make sane people quail in horror.

Bishop on January 16, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Time for the One to put his head together with Axlegrease and Jarrett to figure out how to screw the American people with this crisis. Maybe another 100 EOs to invoke martial law and make him King of the World!!

Deano1952 on January 16, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Somehow this must be Bushe’s fault because nothing is ever obama’s fault…

sandee on January 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Sure they do, but their ideas would make sane people quail in horror.

Bishop on January 16, 2013 at 4:08 PM

“quail” ? Bird, right ?

Anyway, yes, their response will be a headscratcher.

Jabberwock on January 16, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Obama Dominoes.

albill on January 16, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Obama should have the UN ban guns in Mali…

albill on January 16, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Obama Dominoes.

albill on January 16, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Shorter albill – Obaminoes

Jabberwock on January 16, 2013 at 4:19 PM

I wonder how long Obama will give the Algerian military to try to resolve this before he decides his “Al Qaeda is on the run” talking point requires American action.

On the run? I thought AQ had been “decimated”.

Buy Danish on January 16, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Elections have consequences.

And to those millions who stayed home – tell me again how Romney would have basically been Obama Lite.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on January 16, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Too bad if the door of the airplane fell off and he slide out of the plane by accident. Ahem….

redguy on January 16, 2013 at 3:51 PM

last week somebody suggested we go ahead and release him…from 35,000 ft

“Here you go Sheik, no that’s just wind noise in the bathroom window, step in.”

DanMan on January 16, 2013 at 4:25 PM

“This will be our Viet-naaaaaam!”

-Ghost of Ted Kenendy

portlandon on January 16, 2013 at 4:29 PM

And to those millions who stayed home – tell me again how Romney would have basically been Obama Lite.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on January 16, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Besides the boatload of evidence when he was governor?

But since you’re a coward using a sockpuppet account, you’re also probably too lazy to Google anything and too stupid to learn if you did.

MelonCollie on January 16, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Such an attack would require a large and heavily armed insurgent force with a degree of freedom to move around, all elements that al Qaeda has not previously had.

However, the conflict in neighboring Libya in 2011 changed the balance of force. Security experts say al Qaeda was able to obtain arms, including heavy weapons, from the looted arsenals of former leader Muammar Gaddafi.

Thanks Odumbass!!

can_con on January 16, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Besides the boatload of evidence when he was governor?

But since you’re a coward using a sockpuppet account, you’re also probably too lazy to Google anything and too stupid to learn if you did.

MelonCollie on January 16, 2013 at 4:30 PM

I assume that’s your real name too. What a rip you are.

Well let’s see – anyone with half a brain – including you of course – could’ve projected what Obama would’ve done with an unrestrained second term, with absolutely nothing to lose.

How’s it going so far, Sparky? Are you an advocate of rebuilding from the ashes? I’d rather not, thanks.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on January 16, 2013 at 4:37 PM

I see the NASA outreach program is working…

Seven Percent Solution on January 16, 2013 at 4:40 PM

I don’t know how much more of this “Smart Power” we can take. It seems our Administration’s just too smart for our own good.

Kenz on January 16, 2013 at 4:41 PM

I assume that’s your real name too. What a rip you are.\

Than I’ll assume your moronic, overly-long screename is your real name too. Or can only you do that because you’re special?

Well let’s see – anyone with half a brain – including you of course (but not me) – could’ve projected what Obama would’ve done with an unrestrained second term, with absolutely nothing to lose.

Congratulations, Captain Obvious. I also knew what would happen when Wrongney started feeling REAL pressure from the Democrats – mainly, that he’d swivel like a freaking weathervane?

How’s it going so far, Sparky? Are you an advocate of rebuilding from the ashes? I’d rather not, thanks.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on January 16, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Then why don’t you go full-on isolationist and leave the discussion to people who aren’t stupid and don’t make stupid usernames gleaned from stupid sayings by a stupid ex-governor who got run out of Alaska?

MelonCollie on January 16, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Too bad if the door of the airplane fell off and he slide out of the plane by accident. Ahem….

redguy on January 16, 2013 at 3:51 PM

last week somebody suggested we go ahead and release him…from 35,000 ft

“Here you go Sheik, no that’s just wind noise in the bathroom window, step in.”

DanMan on January 16, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Both work for me, at least as long as it happened at 35,000 feet.

Steve Eggleston on January 16, 2013 at 4:48 PM

And, Chrysler IS building Jeeps in China…and Russia and Italy, too.
Resist We Much on January 16, 2013 at 3:42 PM

I just keep picturing Romney reading that in the news on his ipad while drinking some chocolate milk and remarking to himself “heh!” (No profanities)

can_con on January 16, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Allowing it to develop further, Trévidic argues, would have been tantamount to letting a pre-9/11 Afghanistan flourish in a place just a few hours away from Europe by plane.

Nice job Obama….nice job.

Remember progressives always tell us how he is the smartest man ever.

William Eaton on January 16, 2013 at 4:50 PM

MelonCollie on January 16, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Says the genius who thinks the Smashing Pumpkins are still relevant.

I get it. You stayed home – or better yet, voted for Gary Johnson “in protest”. Now deal with the ramifications and get over yourself.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on January 16, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Time for the One to put his head together with Axlegrease and Jarrett to figure out how to screw the American people with this crisis. Maybe another 100 EOs to invoke martial law and make him King of the World!!

Deano1952 on January 16, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Forget that….Emperor of the Universe and Master Time Lord.

He is one White Persian Cat away from being a classic James Bond villain.

William Eaton on January 16, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Says the genius who thinks the Smashing Pumpkins are still relevant.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on January 16, 2013 at 4:53 PM

WTF is that, a band?

I get it. You stayed home – or better yet, voted for Gary Johnson “in protest”.

Once again, you are wrong.

Gary Toiletson had even less name recognition than Ron Paul, so I voted for him. Who unlike Romney will ever be is 50% conservative.

Now deal with the ramifications and get over yourself.

I’ve been dealing with the unavoidable ever since your pet liberal got his butt kicked by a total Marxist. Get over yourself, binky.

MelonCollie on January 16, 2013 at 5:19 PM

If he can ignore the War Powers Act in Libya, why can’t he ignore this?

Maybe he just needs to “issue guidance clarifying that” everything he does is legal.

“quail” ? Bird, right ?

Anyway, yes, their response will be a headscratcher.

Jabberwock on January 16, 2013 at 4:16 PM

quail (verb) — to lose heart or courage in difficulty or danger; shrink with fear.

Axe on January 16, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Awful.

As noted above, our domestic energy policy costs lives and finances the enemy. As does the State Department.

No other nation in history will be marked in this way: So inexplicably fixated on Other Countries’ Approval that we gave them so much of our treasure and gave up so much strategic advantage that we invited our own destruction.

TexasDan on January 16, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Algeria’s a clever choice of targets, not only because France is using the country’s airspace for strikes in Mali but because putting Algerians at risk over French military action is bound to stoke old resentments

Said who? French troops aircrafts operating there are either based in Bamako (Mali), in Niger or Burkina-Faso, you might want to check a map. And if you knew a tiny bit about the way Algeria’s independence was achieved, you would probably not entertain the ludicrous idea that the Algerian government would allow the use of its airspace by French military…

Durandal on January 16, 2013 at 6:06 PM

And if you knew a tiny bit about the way Algeria’s independence was achieved, you would probably not entertain the ludicrous idea that the Algerian government would allow the use of its airspace by French military…

Durandal on January 16, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Is it possible to splat their AA/airforce to the point where France can use their airspace and say “le tough sh!t”?

MelonCollie on January 16, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Photo of Obama looking “concerned”..in the situation room…flanked by an All-Female-And-Extremely-Diverse group of advisers in 3….2…1…

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 6:29 PM

gleaned from stupid sayings by a stupid ex-governor who got run out of Alaska?

MelonCollie on January 16, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Cranky little thing, aren’t you?

Solaratov on January 16, 2013 at 6:46 PM

MelonCollie on January 16, 2013 at 4:48 PM

And prone to making up your own “facts” to fit your bias.

Solaratov on January 16, 2013 at 6:47 PM