Oprah: “I don’t think ‘emotional’ begins to describe” my interview with Armstrong

posted at 4:31 pm on January 16, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Lance Armstrong has had a few months now to mull over the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency’s “reasoned decision” denouncing him for doping throughout his high-profile cycling career, and with his brand, his sponsorship contracts, and reputation all subsequently in tatters, it looks like he’s finally decided to take the PR-recovery route of a big, purging emotional sit-down with one of America’s favorite mediators. The interview has yet to air, but ESPN reports that Oprah Winfrey confirmed that Armstrong has indeed confessed that — shocker — he did in fact use banned substances and doping methods throughout his career (…just like pretty much every other modern professional cyclist, ever).

Armstrong confessed to doping during an interview with Oprah Winfrey taped Monday, just a couple of hours after a wrenching apology to staff at the Livestrong charity he founded and has now been forced to surrender. …

Winfrey would not characterize whether Armstrong seemed contrite but said he seemed ready for the interview. “I would say that he met the moment,” she said.

“I don’t think ‘emotional’ begins to describe the intensity or the difficulty he experienced in talking about some of these things.” …

The World Anti-Doping Agency said Armstrong must confess under oath to seek a reduction in his lifetime ban from sports. …

WADA said “only when Mr. Armstrong makes a full confession under oath — and tells the anti-doping authorities all he knows about doping activities — can any legal and proper process for him to seek any reopening or reconsideration of his lifetime ban commence.”

Oprah, however, might not be the only party Armstrong has approached of late. If, as VeloNews suggests, Armstrong has any intention of speaking with the USADA directly about a real confession, the possibility of cycling’s international governing bodies’ complicity would have deep-seated implications for the sport at large. In a nutshell, it could blow this whole thing wide open:

But giddiness over the surreal possibility of the studiously intransigent Armstrong following the Oprah star-contrition script — shedding tears of remorse, offering apologies to the injured — quickly washed away the more important sporting story. Just days before the news of the Oprah interview surfaced, The New York Times’ Juliet Macur, citing unnamed sources close to the situation, reported that Armstrong had spoken to U.S. Anti-Doping Agency officials regarding a possible confession.  …

Just like the riders who solidified USADA’s case against Armstrong, he will need to not only acknowledge his own role, but also supply useful information on parties still involved in the sport.

[T]he fallen champion may simply wish to prove that he was not alone, that his actions were merely those of a man trying to be the best in a thoroughly corrupt system. In short, to bring everyone else down with him. Either way, the possibility of Armstrong talking to USADA should leave a number of people fairly uncomfortable as confession rumors continue to simmer.

I’ve been highly skeptical of the USADA’s investigation, not because it was incorrect or because Armstrong doesn’t deserve harsh judgment for what was clearly years of shady misconduct, but because one of the biggest complaints about cycling is the old-world corruption and nefarious bureaucracies of the sport’s governance. The USADA is only kinda’-sorta’ quasi-governmental, but it does receive plenty of taxpayer funding, and it broke some of its own rules to take down what they determined to be a kingpin (and if sketchy money really never changed hands anywhere here, I’ll eat my hat). But, the general consensus in the cycling community seems to be that if anything had a prayer of changing the sport’s culture, this was the appropriate fuel for the outrage fire — and there may be plenty more sport-wide fallout to come.

Anyhow, if Armstrong & company thought that just having out with it and apologizing profusely would perhaps help him in the court of public opinion in America, I think it’s safe to say that it is not going to help him solve any of his emerging technical difficulties:

Justice Department officials have recommended joining a federal whistleblower lawsuit aimed at clawing back sponsorship money from former professional cyclist Lance Armstrong, according to people familiar with the matter.

The Justice Department has been weighing the matter since 2010, when the suit was filed by Armstrong’s former teammate Floyd Landis.

All whistleblower suits are kept under seal, and neither the Justice Department nor Landis have acknowledged the suit’s existence or the allegations. However, according to a person who has seen the lawsuit, Landis alleged that Armstrong and team managers defrauded the U.S. government when they accepted money from the U.S. Postal Service.

The Justice Department and Landis declined to comment.


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…was she dripping?

KOOLAID2 on January 16, 2013 at 4:33 PM

I don’t think “indifferent” begins to describe my feelings towards you or him for that matter.

And by the way, thanks for foisting SCOAMF on us.

Rixon on January 16, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Everyone knows the UCI (Cycling’s governing body) is Guilty as well…it would be the one thing left that would be noble for LA to do and bring down the fat cats at the UCI and truly expose how it was done so well for so long….

SDarchitect on January 16, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Oprah, however, might not be the only party Armstrong has approached of late.

WTF is wrong with him?…he hasn’t been on rapper Limps radio show yet?

KOOLAID2 on January 16, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Li v estrong

BJ* on January 16, 2013 at 4:36 PM

I have never watch oprah and do not plan to for this interview. lance lied and was/is being held accountable, bho lies everytime he opens his mouth is NEVER held accountable!
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letget on January 16, 2013 at 4:37 PM

So I was right all along — the guy’s a fu*king liar.

rrpjr on January 16, 2013 at 4:38 PM

I really don’t care if he used steroids as much as his ruthless treatment of those that apparently were telling the truth about him. And the fact that he went on Oprah for this bogus apology crap just means he’ll always be a loser. To bad Oprah only gets to add one and not a pair to her collection.

Flange on January 16, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Don’t care. As long as he goes away. Doping is widespread through almost all sports and everyone knows it. The age of the athlete has ended. We are now in the age of the artificially manufactured competitor.

Rocks on January 16, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Won’t watch. Two leftist idiots psychobabbling.

sauldalinsky on January 16, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Oprah = overblown 1%-er (0.01%-er?) who takes herself waaayyyy too seriously.
Armstrong = big fat liar who deserves what he’s getting. Too bad he’ll make millions writing a book about his “torment”.
To both of them: PLEASE GO AWAY!

KS Rex on January 16, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Lance ruined so many peoples lives, how can be be “forgiven” for one interview…the fact is, he needs to come clean, take his millions and pay back all that he stole from. Beginning with Landis, whom he kicked off the team because Landis did not want to participate in the drug program.

right2bright on January 16, 2013 at 4:45 PM

I really don’t care if he used steroids as much as his ruthless treatment of those that apparently were telling the truth about him. And the fact that he went on Oprah for this bogus apology crap just means he’ll always be a loser. To bad Oprah only gets to add one and not a pair to her collection.

Flange on January 16, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Exactly, as usual the focus is on the “star”, but not the ones who have been really harmed.
Oprah has benefited from Armstrong, I don’t see her going to the victims and helping them…

right2bright on January 16, 2013 at 4:46 PM

“I don’t think ‘emotional’ begins to describe the intensity …

Did ‘Lance the Doper’ jump up and down on the sofa, wail and flail whilst confessing? Oprah seems to have that effect on her paid guests.

Pork-Chop on January 16, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Lance Armstrong busted – oh well I’m sure this means THE END now for all “doping” in amateur and professional sports.

#sarcasm

HondaV65 on January 16, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Huh?

Do people still watch that fat broad?

Sir Napsalot on January 16, 2013 at 4:56 PM

I have no intention of propping up Lance Armstrong or Oprah Winfrey by watching any of that tripe.

He should be sitting in prison for all the people’s lives he ruined when they did nothing more than tell the truth.

Oprah is using this to get her network out of the financial gutter. I refuse to do that. The sooner she has less of a voice in our culture, the better off we’ll be.

ButterflyDragon on January 16, 2013 at 4:57 PM

I have friends who have been trying to get me to follow this sport. I guess I just don’t get why anyone follows it, given the conduct of all parties involved.

hungrymongo on January 16, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Armstrong deserves any punishment, and/or loss of recognition handed to him…He’s as narcissistic and petulant as Obama.

elihu on January 16, 2013 at 4:59 PM

I don’t give a rip about him doping to win races, many others did. The real reason to dislike Lance Armstrong is that he destroyed a lot of lives over the last 10 to 15 years. He relentlessly attacked and destroyed anyone that dare tell the truth. So now he goes on Oprah and all is forgiven? Not only is he a miserable person, he’s a coward, too.

GCM on January 16, 2013 at 5:01 PM

You do realize the Armstrong “confession” on Oprah is nothing more than a craven, calculated step by Armstrong to try to weasel back into paid athletics, right?

The only thing bad about the USADA is that it is even a quasi-government agency.

Steve Eggleston on January 16, 2013 at 5:04 PM

He’s as narcissistic and petulant as Obama.

Sounds like a future Czar Appointment.

hungrymongo on January 16, 2013 at 5:04 PM

He’s as narcissistic and petulant as Obama.

Sounds like a future Czar Appointment.

hungrymongo on January 16, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Next apointee on the President’s Fitness Council?

Steve Eggleston on January 16, 2013 at 5:05 PM

I don’t believe him.

Bmore on January 16, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Lance Armstrong busted – oh well I’m sure this means THE END now for all “doping” in amateur and professional sports.

#sarcasm – HondaV65 on January 16, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Well, of course./s

SC.Charlie on January 16, 2013 at 5:10 PM

The Postal Service wants it’s money back? I’ll bet they are shocked, shocked I tell you about Armstrong’s revelations.

Vince on January 16, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Lance has has bullied people into silence and ruined the careers of people who spoke out against him. He used his financial clout to sue journalists and witnesses who did their job and reported the evidence against him. Erika wanted the investigation into the sport’s biggest cheater stopped some time ago and put up more than one article on HotAir saying so. She thought he should be allowed to ‘enjoy his retirement.’ Not a very conservative position is it?

The sport is doing the right thing by exposing cheaters like Lance. Contrary to the Erika’s pathetic ‘they all cheat anyway’ stance, there are people in cycling who don’t cheat and it is important for the sport to go after cheaters after the fact so that cheating isn’t seen to pay and so the people who do it are humiliated publicly. Erika doesn’t understand why going after the biggest cheaters in a sport years after the fact… it’s so obvious… it just might dissuade a young cyclist from cheating to win because you might get the win but you will always have to worry that you will eventually get caught despite passing every dope test. Understand?

Yes the sports governing bodies need to be investigated and if they are found to be complicit in Lance’s lies and cheating they should also be shamed and humiliated. It’s great that they are doing this and it is needed to make a great sport credible again. Erika has no credibility whatsoever on this issue.

lexhamfox on January 16, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Lance Armstrong busted – oh well I’m sure this means THE END now for all “doping” in amateur and professional sports.

#sarcasm

HondaV65 on January 16, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Go read up on the lives Armstrong has destroyed to protect his fame and fortune. Sure, doping will continue, but Armstrong should be ashamed to ever show his face in public again.

GCM on January 16, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Grow up Lance. Your chances of competing in any sport at 41 are slim and none.

can_con on January 16, 2013 at 5:16 PM

I was amazed to discover that Oprah’s network was part of my cable package. I never watch it. Didn’t realize I had it. If the cable company would knock a couple of dimes off my bill, they could have it back.

trigon on January 16, 2013 at 5:18 PM

If Armstrong won seven Tour’s with EPO, he could have won three or four without it.

Now he’s going to continue falling from a very high ivory tower.

His life, his accomplishments, his good works, all destroyed.

All because he blurred the line.

Speakup on January 16, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Just dropped in to say I don’t give a rat’s pattootie about any of this drama.

davidk on January 16, 2013 at 5:37 PM

GCM on January 16, 2013 at 5:16 PM

What we’ve got here essentially is a monster.

rrpjr on January 16, 2013 at 5:41 PM

I’ve been highly skeptical of the USADA’s investigation, not because it was incorrect or because Armstrong doesn’t deserve harsh judgment for what was clearly years of shady misconduct, but because one of the biggest complaints about cycling is the old-world corruption and nefarious bureaucracies of the sport’s governance.

Highly skeptical? You’re having a laugh, right? Let’s see:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/24/thanks-a-lot-usada-lance-armstrong-faces-the-loss-of-his-seven-tour-de-france-titles/

But a years-long, repeatedly meandering witch hunt against a man that never once tested positive on a drug test while active in the sport, borne of stale allegations from vengeful or scapegoating former fellow riders, after a federal grand jury criminal investigation failed to nail him? That is something by which I absolutely cannot abide.

There are plenty of Europeans who resent him simply for being a stellar American champion

The guy just hasn’t been able to enjoy his retirement. At some point, I’m sure the relentless inquisition starts to take its toll

As Armstrong goes on to say, the USADA (largely funded by your tax dollars, by the way! Yippee!) has been nothing but a bully throughout this entire ludicrous affair.

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/06/24/armstrong-to-usada-youre-long-on-stale-allegations-and-short-on-evidence/

Some people just can’t stand a champion, and Armstrong has been the target of especially high-profile attention ever since his first Tour de France victory — even though he’s never once failed a doping test.

After a two-year, multi-continent, federal grand jury criminal investigation failed to convict Armstrong earlier this year, you’d think they’d finally just let it go and let the man enjoy his retirement, but alas

A lot of people have had it out for Lance Armstrong for years, and maybe he deserves the extra scrutiny, but they’ve failed to incriminate him every single time.
These extended witch hunts get the media to only focus on the negative aspects of cycling, and don’t do much to bring in new fans. Please, it’s time to let it go and move on. Lay off Lance and focus on the active members of the sport, instead of continually dredging up old news and wasting resources

Seriously…

Durandal on January 16, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Oprah was mesmerized by lying liar Lance. Typical liberal dazzled by BS. This tool has wrecked so many lives. I hope the lawsuits drive him to bankruptcy. I will not be watching the weepy spectacle of more lies.

Philly on January 16, 2013 at 5:44 PM

It’s all legal until you get caught…

joe btfsplk on January 16, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Grow up Lance. Your chances of competing in any sport at 41 are slim and none.

can_con on January 16, 2013 at 5:16 PM

It’s not even that. His ability to attend and take part in many events that have sponsorship or association with WADA and USADA is barred. He couldn’t attend a big marathon, for example, even if he wanted to. He is banned from all sports that associate with USADA.

With that being said, this apology does nothing. The only way he got barred in the first place was the concensus from his contemporaries that the whole sport is shot through with corruption. If the lengths the governing bodies went to to find how riddled cycling is with corruption and drugs to crush Armstrong under the weight of their circumstantial evidence doesn’t get them to genuinely clean up cycling, nothing will.

Sadly, the organizations are happily dusting off their hands and congratulating themselves for getting that cheater, rather than bothering to clean up the actual sport.

Sgt Steve on January 16, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Speakup on January 16, 2013 at 5:29 PM

One thing that was rarely brought up was just what were the long term effects of his cancer treatments on his metabolism and recuperative abilities.

Much like steroids, those treatments can alter you for life, and imho should limit your ability to compete as clean athlete.

can_con on January 16, 2013 at 5:47 PM

I’ll bet it was about as puke-provoking as Jimmy Swaggart’s dramatic made-for-TV “confession” after he was caught with the hookers at the notorious Texas Motel on Airline Highway west of New Orleans.

viking01 on January 16, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Narcissists think the rules don’t apply to them. Lance is confessing because, although it took years, eventually the evidence against him became overwhelming. One day, Obama will be on the couch telling Oprah that he really was born in Kenya.

Cara C on January 16, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Go read up on the lives Armstrong has destroyed to protect his fame and fortune. Sure, doping will continue, but Armstrong should be ashamed to ever show his face in public again.

GCM on January 16, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Do you believe his best course of action at this point would be to kill himself?

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 5:53 PM

I tried to care. I started reading a few of the paragraphs and just skipped to the comments. It was the dang French bike race! who besides those related to the riders even watch it?

DanMan on January 16, 2013 at 5:55 PM

I told y’all he was doping and it was a massive conspiracy that he was in charge of for USPS.

Cycling is dirty. Has been for a long, long time.

However its ridiculous that they stripped him of his wins. The other top 5 finishers were all on drugs usually.

And he went on Oprah’s show…which gets almost no audience…to admit to what everyone knew anyway. Except for y’all who claimed it was some kind of intricate anti-American conspiracy (that involved people like Floyd Landis!).

Yeah.

CorporatePiggy on January 16, 2013 at 5:55 PM

It’s not even that. His ability to attend and take part in many events that have sponsorship or association with WADA and USADA is barred. He couldn’t attend a big marathon, for example, even if he wanted to. He is banned from all sports that associate with USADA.

Sgt Steve on January 16, 2013 at 5:44 PM

I wasn’t aware of that, and it doesn’t change my opinion about the issue one bit.

Have genetically altered athletes for all I care as long as it is out in the open.

can_con on January 16, 2013 at 5:58 PM

I was amazed to discover that Oprah’s network was part of my cable package. I never watch it. Didn’t realize I had it. If the cable company would knock a couple of dimes off my bill, they could have it back.

I see my Dish bill goes up and give them a call. Turns some free period of ahem “premium” channels had expired and I was paying for BET, some kind of old western movie channel and a couple of more. Better keep an eye on those cable/sat companies. Heck I was bummed to see I had Current a few months ago.

DanMan on January 16, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Yawns….stretches….blinks….Lance Armstrong? Doping? Bicycles?…..yawns……blinks……zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

nico on January 16, 2013 at 6:03 PM

A former cyclist here and friends with a couple of the key participants. It’s good to finally see Lance get his. I hope the Qui Tam lawsuit brings him down even more.

moo on January 16, 2013 at 6:26 PM

A former cyclist here and friends with a couple of the key participants. It’s good to finally see Lance get his. I hope the Qui Tam lawsuit brings him down even more.

moo on January 16, 2013 at 6:26 PM

No doubt he deserves it – he’s got an awful lot to make up for!

My problem is with those who have already concluded he is not, nor ever will be, truly contrite – I hope none of those people claim to be Christians.

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Lance has has bullied people into silence and ruined the careers of people who spoke out against him. He used his financial clout to sue journalists and witnesses who did their job and reported the evidence against him. Erika wanted the investigation into the sport’s biggest cheater stopped some time ago and put up more than one article on HotAir saying so. She thought he should be allowed to ‘enjoy his retirement.’ Not a very conservative position is it?
……….Erika has no credibility whatsoever on this issue.

lexhamfox on January 16, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Agree 100%….Erika was flag waving for Armstrong and many of the HA posters were hinting darkly at “foreign plots” to undermine an American “hero”

First rule of journalism, Erika…when you are sawing off a branch make certain you are on the right side of the saw

callingallcomets on January 16, 2013 at 6:45 PM

“I play real sports. Not trying to be the best at exercising..” Kenny Powers.

Caper29 on January 16, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Did Sheryl Crow know about Armstong’s doping?

Sherman1864 on January 16, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Oprah: “I don’t think ‘emotional’ begins to describe” my interview with Armstrong

In light of the repeated denials, I know ‘disgusted’ begins to describe my sentiments towards the man.

It gets worse from there.

rukiddingme on January 16, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 6:40 PM

That’s the problem with being a known liar and cheater. No reason to believe he’s contrite. And if he is that’s up to God to judge not me. But I will judge him on how he treated others.

Flange on January 16, 2013 at 8:55 PM

That’s the problem with being a known liar and cheater. No reason to believe he’s contrite. And if he is that’s up to God to judge not me. But I will judge him on how he treated others.

Flange on January 16, 2013 at 8:55 PM

You and many others are entrenched in your doubts as to his sincerity, either now or in the future, as those you are God yourselves.

Christians aren’t taught to have a forgiving attitude? Could you show me where you get such a belief from the Bible itself, because I see a far different message when I read the NT. How do you believe God views those who claim to be Christians when they don’t display a forgiving attitude?

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 9:21 PM

as those though

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Pull that stick out a few inches while you’re perched on your high horse. You pass judgement on people every single day. That’s part of how you chose your friends. Do you want known child molesters living next door? Or do you pass judgement and prefer not to have molesters next door? Personally, I don’t care if he is contrite, because his timing is really bad. He waited until he called every one else liars, sued people and generally harassed people and then got busted. He’s tried absolutely every alternative than admitting the truth. He’s a known liar and manipulator to believe him is to be gullible. Nice attempt to troll with that use the Bible against Christian thing though, but I’m an atheist.

Flange on January 16, 2013 at 11:17 PM

Pull that stick out a few inches while you’re perched on your high horse.

Thank you for forming my perception of you, saving me any work! :D

As to the rest of your blather…

Personally, I don’t care if he is contrite

Flange on January 16, 2013 at 11:17 PM

I kinda already knew that, but, thank you for coming right out and saying so!

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Thank you for forming my perception of you, saving me any work!

That’s a weasel’s way of saying you’re passing judgement on me.

Flange on January 17, 2013 at 12:05 AM

That’s a weasel’s way of saying you’re passing judgement on me.

Flange on January 17, 2013 at 12:05 AM

How is letting you know that I find you to be a projecting, pompous dork by using your own words a sign that I’m a weasel?

I’m sorry that I find you to a rude and rather cold person who’s in denial – there, does that make you feel better? ROFL

Anti-Control on January 17, 2013 at 12:16 AM

you to be a rude

Anti-Control on January 17, 2013 at 12:17 AM

Ya-know, it might be worth looking into that Armstrong cancer-stuff too, in view of all this malarkey. What if that’s fraudulent too?

People are ready to forgive the cycling fraud in view of his public service. But we have to look at the whole thing now, since there is basically no trust.

BTW, it won’t be the first time a bleeding-heart appeared on Oprah, only for her to find out later that there was no heart and there was no blood.

virgo on January 17, 2013 at 1:24 AM

Ya-know, it might be worth looking into that Armstrong cancer-stuff too, in view of all this malarkey. What if that’s fraudulent too?

People are ready to forgive the cycling fraud in view of his public service. But we have to look at the whole thing now, since there is basically no trust.

BTW, it won’t be the first time a bleeding-heart appeared on Oprah, only for her to find out later that there was no heart and there was no blood.

virgo on January 17, 2013 at 1:24 AM

I agree with you.

My view on Armstrong is that it’s as though he’s an alcoholic who’s being forced to admit he has an addiction, and we don’t yet know how he’ll go down the path to recovery. If he is truly learning how to be sorry for what he’s done, we’ll soon find out.

I have a problem with those who have already condemned him eternally before any evidence is in, especially if these people call themselves Christians – Oprah’s interview hasn’t even aired yet, we haven’t seen how he’ll handle the upcoming lawsuits, the near-endless number of apologies he owes, etc.

Anti-Control on January 17, 2013 at 1:59 AM

I would respect Armstrong more if he just kept his lie to his grave.

No confessing.

Just live with it and die with it and no half measures.

He is now merely a wimpy whiny loser.

Sherman1864 on January 17, 2013 at 7:11 AM

I would respect Armstrong more if he just kept his lie to his grave.

No confessing.

Just live with it and die with it and no half measures.

He is now merely a wimpy whiny loser.

Sherman1864 on January 17, 2013 at 7:11 AM

You believe that to perpetuate his lie and refuse to admit that he defamed people is a more courageous and respectable route for him to take than to admit the whole truth about what he did?

You have whacked-out senses of ethics, bravery, and winning.

Anti-Control on January 17, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Anti-Control on January 17, 2013 at 1:59AM

You really are a weasel. Lance is a shitty human, period. I sit in judgement of him, just like you have sat in judgement of us here. You pass out judgement, and then complain how you have a problem with people passing judgement(that’s a judgement, little weasel). You sound like the same weasel that says “I don’t understand why someone needs that many guns” as if that’s a justification to ban them. So hypocrite, you can pass off your judgement that I’m a rude and cold hearted person because I care about his victims more than him. Your love of the criminal and disinterest in his victims makes you look heartless to me. And your willing to give a man who built his career on lying while destroying other peoples lives indicate, in my judgement, that you’re a gullible, hypocrite.

Flange on January 17, 2013 at 8:50 AM

Anti-Control thinks if Charlie Manson were to apologize on Oprah he should be forgive.
Bernie Madoff goes on Oprah and apologizes, so Anti-Control thinks everything should be forgiven.
What a maroon.

Flange on January 17, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Anti-Control thinks if Charlie Manson were to apologize on Oprah he should be forgive.
Bernie Madoff goes on Oprah and apologizes, so Anti-Control thinks everything should be forgiven.
What a maroon.

Flange on January 17, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Is that what I believe, you lying maroon? :)

You really are a weasel.

Flange on January 17, 2013 at 8:50 AM

Again, thank you for forming my perception of you, you passive-aggressive, strawman-making weasel!

Anti-Control on January 17, 2013 at 5:17 PM