How many House Republicans voted yes on both the fiscal-cliff deal and the Sandy relief bill?

posted at 6:51 pm on January 16, 2013 by Allahpundit

I’m kicking myself for not thinking to count them up last night after the vote on the big Sandy pork package. Boehner’s taking all the heat for violating the Hastert Rule by bringing two high-profile bills to the floor that were opposed by a majority of his majority, but he couldn’t pass them himself. There’s some critical mass of centrist GOPers who are voting with the Democrats to push these things through. Who are they? Taegan Goddard counted heads:

Rodney Alexander (La.), Lou Bartletta (Pa.), Tom Cole (Okla.), Jeff Denham (Calif.), Charles Dent (Pa.), Mario Diaz-Balart (Fla.), Michael Fitzpatrick (Pa.), Rodney Frelinghuyse (N.J.), Jim Gerlach (Pa.), Chris Gibson (N.Y.), Michael Grimm (N.Y.), Richard Hanna (N.Y.), Jaime Herrera Beutler (Wash.), Peter King (N.Y.), Leonard Lance (N.J.), Frank LoBiondo (N.J.), Frank Lucas (Okla.), Tom Marino (Pa.), Buck McKeon (Calif.), Pat Meehan (Pa.), Tom Reed (N.Y.), David Reichert (Wash.), Harold Rogers (Ky.), Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Fla.), Jon Runyon (N.J.), Jim Shimkus (Ill.), Chris Smith (N.J.), Don Young (Alaska), C.W. Bill Young (Fla).

That’s 29 Republicans willing to take a very tough vote not once but twice with the national spotlight on them. And if they’re willing to do it twice, why wouldn’t they do it again when Boehner inevitably asks them to make a deal with the Democrats to avoid hitting the debt ceiling? Pelosi only needs 18 if she can hold House Democrats together. And judging from how business is responding to the prospect of a “default,” those 29 will have cover from some prominent Republicans:

“I’m agreeing with the president — you should not be using the debt limit as a bargaining chip when it comes to how you run the country,” said David M. Cote, chief executive of Honeywell, and a Republican. “You don’t put the full faith and credit of the United States at risk.”

As a new warning was issued Tuesday about a possible credit downgrade, even the hard-line conservative group Americans for Prosperity, financed by the billionaire Koch family, urged Republicans not to use the debt limit as leverage for deep spending cuts.

Other conservatives argue that the GOP’s plan B, i.e. minimizing the risk of a default by forcing Treasury to pay America’s creditors first if the debt ceiling isn’t raised, won’t do much to avert a crisis:

But former advisers to Republican President George W. Bush say the idea is unworkable for a number of reasons, including the fact that tax revenue does not come in at the same rate that payments are due…

“Is the government really going to be in the position of withholding benefits, salaries, rent, contract payments etc., in order to pay off Treasury bondholders? That would be a political catastrophe,” [Bush economic advisor Tony] Fratto said…

Keith Hennessey, Bush’s National Economic Council director, said prioritization was a bad idea that could increase credit risk and said it would be irresponsible.

“Payment prioritization doesn’t stop payments, it just delays them. Then the aggrieved party sues the government, and probably wins, and it turns into a bloody mess,” Hennessey, now an economist at Stanford, said in a blog post this week.

Conn Carroll imagines a scenario where the House passes a bill tying a debt-ceiling hike to a balanced budget, whereupon Reid turns around and calls Boehner’s bluff by passing a clean debt-ceiling hike through the Senate — with Republican help. What do the 29 Republican House defectors do then? Anyone trust Boehner not to bring that bill to the floor, especially if it’s another midnight deadline situation?

Update: Hastert Rule, RIP:

“That rule is completely dead,” one Republican aide said. “The Democrats now effectively control the floor because nothing ‘big’ will come to the floor without knowing in advance that lots of Democrats support it. That gives the Democrats tremendous power in a body where the minority is not designed to have much power.”…

“Maybe you can do it once, maybe you can do it twice, but when you start making deals when you have to get Democrats to pass the legislation, you are not in power anymore,” [Dennis Hastert] said on Fox News Radio’s “Kilmeade & Friends.” “When you start passing stuff that your members are not in line with, all of a sudden your ability to lead is in jeopardy because somebody else is making decisions. The president is making decisions, Pelosi is making decisions, or they are making the decisions in the Senate.”


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It really is mind boggling that the president of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, has so little respect for his office that he would actually try blame his ineffectiveness on a private citizen who simply broadcast his opinions. Pathetic!

chazmaz on May 14, 2013 at 9:31 PM

If Rush does live in Obama’s head, could he at least tell us what Obama was doing on the night of the Benghazi attack?

monalisa on May 14, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Dittos all.
Could be they identified the enemy and it is us.
Julian Bond had an interesting description of the Tea Party tonight.
Interesting times.

seesalrun2 on May 14, 2013 at 9:45 PM

It really is mind boggling that the president of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, has so little respect for his office that he would actually try blame his ineffectiveness on a private citizen who simply broadcast his opinions. Pathetic!

chazmaz on May 14, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Or maybe Obama is angry that he can’t forcibly nationalize the broadcast spectrum in total a la Hugo Chavez. Which is why he gets into these p***ing matches with Rush and Fox News.

Myron Falwell on May 14, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Good for Rush finding this new apartment. I hear there is plenty of empty space up in there; he should be able to get some good practice in on that golf swing of his.

Gingotts on May 14, 2013 at 9:53 PM

God bless Rush Limbaugh.

TitularHead on May 14, 2013 at 10:04 PM

If Rush does live in Obama’s head, could he at least tell us what Obama was doing on the night of the Benghazi attack?

monalisa on May 14, 2013 at 9:37 PM

What he does every night, watching Sportscenter of course. That’s such common knowledge that lobbyists have started advertising on ESPN just to get to him.

slickwillie2001 on May 14, 2013 at 10:25 PM

It can’t cost too much, there’s nothing there.

mmcnamer1 on May 14, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Even a thimble has space for a gnat, Mr.Limbaugh.

All the mockery of shout radio combined has not done one whit to halt his socialist agenda, or even really to hold the GOP’s feet to the fire until they were worth a hoot. So make your jokes about rent-free life…they’ve got the power and we don’t.

MelonCollie on May 14, 2013 at 11:11 PM

MMM-MMM-MMM!

Sir Loin on May 15, 2013 at 2:29 AM

Even a thimble has space for a gnat, Mr.Limbaugh.

All the mockery of shout radio combined has not done one whit to halt his socialist agenda, or even really to hold the GOP’s feet to the fire until they were worth a hoot. So make your jokes about rent-free life…they’ve got the power and we don’t.

MelonCollie on May 14, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Exactly right. You know when I essentially gave up on the American people and knew in my gut that this country had gone too far down the path of ignorance and facism? When there was no back-lash, no rising up against the incredible attacks on Sarah Palin and her children. And then this President who called Americans “the enemy” and those of us who defended the Constitution and criticised the press and the federal government for acting like a 3rd World dictator became “extremests”. The filth spewed by Hollywood became the “norm”. Veterans and people who opposed the likes of that butcher Gosnell were put on the terrorist “watch” lists and low-life, pedophiles were allowed to sexually abuse children in public while their parents looked on at our airports.

Now we learn that 7 muslims—chemists—were found at Boston’s water source and while Obama is busy persecuting Billy Graham, these innocent “researchers” are allowed to go their merry way. Why aren’t every one of them in jail awaiting a direct plane to their homeland? Why the hell are they in this county in the first place?

I’m very tired of the awful, souless country we’re passing on to the next generation. Degenerates in Hollywood glorify drug abuse, incivility, and ignorance and they are the pied pipers who shoulder the most immoral man who has ever sat in the Oval Office to lead us all over the cliff. I went to Lowes last week looking for stuff for a remodel in my house. I couldn’t read the freaking packages. I needed an interpreter because everything was in Spanish. I’d like to know why these people are here? They hate us. They want to turn us into Mexico and they burn our flag and insult and ignore our laws and we want more of them? And why are we allowing “students” from Muslim countries? Can anyone, anywhere point to any progress in bringing any Muslim country out of the 6th century? The only thing these “educated” Muslims do is provide technical expertise to blow us all up.

OK. Good grief. I haven’t been involved in any politics since the election because I was intimidated. I used to poo poo “conspiracy” theorists. And for six years I’ve watched the fruition of every, single theory out there. One of the same so-called “nuts” who predicted persecution and prosecution and camps for conservatives and Republicans is now telling us that Google is joining with the Bilderburgs for total power and thought control. Even last year, I would have dismissed this. Now? After the confirmation that the IRS is Obama’s personal SS, I’m paying attention. Now wonder these people want everyone’s guns and ammo.

Portia46 on May 15, 2013 at 9:14 AM

Rush also has the bad taste to not have attended Columbia or Harvard.

TimBuk3 on May 15, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Rush also has the bad taste to not have attended Columbia or Harvard.

TimBuk3 on May 15, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Now THAT, I couldn’t care less about.

Ivy League schools have hopelessly fallen from vaunted institutions of higher learning to left-wing indoctrination centers…and places where all kinds of rich-brat capers go on and get covered up by daddy’s money.

MelonCollie on May 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Rush is now the most powerful man on earth…he dictates our policies, he dictates what the president can and cannot do…amazing that a radio talk show host, without one single vote, dictates the policy, foreign and domestic of the United States.

Truly, in this country, you can be anything you want, even president without being president…

right2bright on May 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM

Oblamo must recognize Rush as the Big Community Organizer on the right. It’s really the only thing prezzy is good at and he does like to clear the field of any competition.

Kissmygrits on May 15, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Limbaugh: “I live rent-free” in President Obama’s head

There should be PLENTY of room with nothing else occupying Obummers head space…much like our troll nonpartisan!

EEprom on May 15, 2013 at 10:38 AM

SCoaMF, forever the beta male to Rush’s alpha.

MNHawk on May 15, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Rush, you better not be paying any rent for living in Obama’s head: it’s an unfurnished sewer of a place.

PD Quig on May 15, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Rent free, baby! Freaking legend.

Decoski on May 15, 2013 at 6:15 PM

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