Quotes of the day

posted at 10:51 pm on January 15, 2013 by Allahpundit

The United States could lose its top credit rating for the second time from a leading credit agency if there’s a delay in raising the country’s debt ceiling, Fitch Ratings warned Tuesday…

“The pressure on the U.S. rating, if anything, is increasing,” David Riley, managing director of Fitch Ratings’ global sovereigns division said at a London conference. “We thought the 2011 crisis was a one-off event …. if we have a repeat we will place the U.S. rating under review.”…

Riley warned that the different arms of the U.S. government still have a number of issues to address. As well as increasing the debt ceiling, they have to agree to spending cuts that were delayed as part of the ‘fiscal cliff’ agreement and back measures to avoid a government shutdown, potentially in March.

***

For the first time since Social Security’s cash crisis in 1983, the program can’t afford to pay full benefits for its youngest crop of new retirees through life expectancy, government data show.

The hastening of the Social Security Trust Fund’s demise to 2033 means that workers just becoming eligible for Social Security at age 62 face steep future benefit cuts if they live to the average life expectancy, now about 84.

Those abrupt benefit cuts of about 25% a year for today’s 62 year olds and workers nearing the early retirement age would come at an especially bad time — late in life when savings have dwindled and health care bills are on the rise.

***

What’s more, according to AARP, health care costs are rising faster than wages. One study, done in conjunction with the Urban Institute predicts that the average retirement income will fall from the current 80 percent of average earnings, to 73 percent of earnings. When health care costs are figured in, it’s even worse. The study says that retirees will have to live on a budget that is just over half of what they made when they were working.

The study also predicted that middle-income retirees will rely on social security for about half of their retirement income. For low-income earners, social security will make of 69 percent of their retirement money. The average social security payment today is just over $13,000 a year.

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Rejecting GOP ultimatums, Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Tuesday that new revenues must accompany spending cuts as Congress prepares to jump headfirst into a series of high-stakes budget debates…

Hoyer, the Democratic whip, said it’s “categorically not true” that the last deal takes new revenues off the table in the coming talks.

“I certainly reject it out of hand,” Hoyer said during his weekly Capitol press briefing. “You cannot get to where we need to get — to get our country on a fiscally sustainable path — without additional revenues.”

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To avoid a crisis, taxes would need to start rising sharply in the middle part of this decade. The U.S. can support 3% budget deficits without a disastrous increase in debt, since the economy will potentially grow at that rate. So by the mid-2020s, we’d need to have a system in place that collects an extra 3 points of GDP in revenues. That’s the 25.5% spending rate, minus around 22.5%, approximately representing the 19.6% share of revenues plus the 3% deficit.

How big is that number? By 2028, it would total around $1 trillion. Raising an extra $1 trillion would require a 37% rise in income taxes. Hiking tax rates on anyone, high-earners or the middle class, won’t remotely collect that kind of money. Once again, the 19.6% of GDP is about the limit of what the current tax system can provide, given that marginal tax rates far higher than today’s have seldom collected more than that share…

If Washington gridlock persists, the big new tax is a virtual certainty. The most probable choice will be a VAT. Since the VAT is assessed on things people buy, not their incomes, it falls heavily on the middle class. Suddenly, the issue is sneaking into the fiscal debate. A January 7th editorial in the New York Times called for a VAT. The same week, in a piece criticizing the nomination of Jack Lew for Treasury Secretary, the Wall Street Journal editorial page groused that President Obama’s spending plans will saddle America with a VAT by default.

This isn’t what the middle class was promised. But the numbers, even assuming good days ahead for the economy, point inexorably in that direction. We don’t know what crisis will enable the phantom to take charge. But every day of inaction brings that crisis nearer.

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[A]t a more elemental level, we need significant attitudinal change. Governments and legislators, for example, have to cease viewing public finances as a vote-attracting tool.

I’m afraid, however, that the bigger challenge may well be for ordinary Americans. To put it bluntly, we need to accept that our participation in democracy cannot degenerate into voting for whoever promises us the most stuff.

In short, if we’re unwilling to use our democratic freedoms responsibly, America seriously risks degenerating into what one German academic described in 2009 as the situation prevailing throughout much of Western Europe: “fiscal kleptocracy.” Citizens vote for those politicians who use state power to give their supporters what they want at other peoples’ expense.

Fiscally, that translates into tax increases, no substantial spending cuts, and a colossal debt-burden for our children.

***

Economist Herbert Stein observed that something that can’t go on forever, won’t. The United States can’t go on forever increasing its debt by 60% every four years. Therefore, it won’t. The only question is how things will stop — smoothly or catastrophically.

As we head into the next debt-ceiling debate, it’s worth considering these words from a patriotic senator concerned with America’s future:

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. . . . It is a sign that the U.S. government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.”

The senator? Sen. Barack Obama, in 2006.

I wish that guy was President now.

***

Some conservatives are convinced that this is the full emergence of Obama’s democratic socialism. This explanation is not required. Obama probably still views himself as a pragmatist. He may comfort himself that he will take incremental action on Medicare in due time. But at this moment three factors overlap: his liberal policy instincts, a political opportunity to break his opponents, and the massively inflated self-confidence produced by reelection. So, force the GOP to surrender on the debt limit, with nothing in return. Require Republicans to accept new taxes in exchange for any real spending reductions. If they agree, their caucus is fractured (again). And if they refuse (which they are likely to do), paint them as obstructionists and extremists who are willing to destroy the economy/the nation’s credit rating/the military for their own ideological purposes.

There is one main downside to this approach. It delays any serious action on long-term debt for at least another two (and probably four) years. It is the path of a government that moves from fiscal crisis to crisis, gradually undermining global confidence that it can manage its own affairs. An economy in which uncertainty, slow growth and high unemployment become norms. A federal budget increasingly devoted to entitlements at the expense of other purposes, including defense — eventually undercutting our international influence in the same way that Europe has become depleted, insular and toothless.

Obama’s short-term political calculations are understandable. It is the cost to posterity that is unreasonable.

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Via Mediaite.

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****Deliberate Debt-Ceiling Democrat Demoralization DoomsDay*******

canopfor on January 15, 2013 at 11:27 PM

Good night GG!

KCB on January 15, 2013 at 11:27 PM

bazil9 on January 15, 2013 at 11:23 PM

(:->)

…all moved in?

KOOLAID2 on January 15, 2013 at 11:27 PM

“I certainly reject it out of hand,” Hoyer said during his weekly Capitol press briefing. “You cannot get to where we need to get — to get our country on a fiscally sustainable path — without additional revenues.”

Impossible.

Every one here assured us that allowing the Democrats to ramrod their bill through the House with minority Republican support would stop this.

Wait I will correct that. The Democrats in the Republican Party that completely control the Republican Party said this. They are just finally letting us know we been had.

I mean just today John Bonner allowed the Democrats to have massive unpaid spending in a vote that 80% of Republicans voted against. So it is crystal clear that the Leadership in the GOP House is Democratic. Nancy never allowed a single bill to pass without a majority of Democrats voting for it. But now with it reversed John Bonner does his best to make the Democrats happy.

Steveangell on January 15, 2013 at 11:28 PM

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 11:25 PM

Anybody else know?

KCB on January 15, 2013 at 11:28 PM

KCB on January 15, 2013 at 11:28 PM

no…. shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ;-)

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 11:29 PM

Green Grass and High Tides

(the hatchet put me in the mood)

Tim_CA on January 15, 2013 at 11:30 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmXU7C7MYlw

Put a spell on you…

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Kool, came across this today. Made me think of ya. The posters avatar. ; ) Whipping Post.

Bmore on January 15, 2013 at 11:31 PM

lol…pretty sure that’s one of the reasons we’re seeing record gun sales…alot of people are wondering exactly that.

Tim_CA on January 15, 2013 at 11:26 PM

I think you are right..

Electrongod on January 15, 2013 at 11:31 PM

KOOLAID2 on January 15, 2013 at 11:27 PM

The “in”, yes..
The “all”..NO. lol
Kitties are very mad too.
Thx for asking..and remembering. :)

bazil9 on January 15, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Tomorrow our President breaks his oath of office – AGAIN!

gophergirl on January 15, 2013 at 11:23 PM

gophergirl:Yup:)
=================

Amtrak adds Acela trains between New York and Washington, DC, for inauguration – @washingtonpost

•2 mins agofrom http://www.washingtonpost.com by editor
================================================

WLKY‏@WLKY

FBI: No credible threats to inauguration http://on.wlky.com/13BkZLa

canopfor on January 15, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Scrumpissy! lol

bazil9 on January 15, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Outta Control.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 11:37 PM

Bmore on January 15, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Oh NO!…oh oh!

KOOLAID2 on January 15, 2013 at 11:37 PM

bazil9 on January 15, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Nice seeing you on qotd K.

KCB on January 15, 2013 at 11:38 PM

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Thanks for posting that!! The UK has gone to pot… :-(

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Tim_CA on January 15, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Excellent choice. Didn’t ya just love those days? Those cats played all the little whole in the wall spots. Used to freak me out a bit, you could go into a club, 400 or 600 people and enjoy that caliber of music. Those were good times. ; )

Bmore on January 15, 2013 at 11:40 PM

As for the Debt Ceiling.

1994 Newt worked long and hard to make the Contract with America the conservative message for that election. It was a massive win for the GOP.

However as soon as these bozos got into office they fought Newt tooth and nail. They were not about to live up to that contract. Although Newt forced a vote on every item on the list many were defeated by Republicans.

Newt then forced Clinton to do real cuts in spending and Welfare Reform that forced people to look for and get work to keep Welfare. Massive GOP victory.

But the GOP Establishment continued fighting for more and more pork and against Newt. By 1996 the Contract with America was forgotten and the GOP message was little different than the DNC message. Just the GOP would do it slower. Massive losses because of this GOP Establishment message and Dole hardly helped. Clinton got a second term. We had additional losses in 1998 for the same reason a wish washy message that was basically we want what the Democrats want but we will do it better.

Point is the 1995 Shut down was a huge success in every single way. Of course the Press hated the GOP for it but that is a great measure of success the more the Press hates it the better it is. After all the Press is the DNC. What killed us in 1996 was GOP Reps that decided to hold a Pork Fest and no message that made sense the standard ultra weak GOP Elite messaging that has never once worked in most of our lifetimes.

Now 2012 and I have no idea what the message of 2012 was. Seemed by the end Mitt was for everything Obama wanted. And in fact in 2013 the Republican Congress allowed Obama to get his increased taxes on only the top 1% into law. The GOP got absolutely nothing in return.

I am no longer going to support the GOP in any way they are just as bad as the DNC.

Steveangell on January 15, 2013 at 11:41 PM

Sorry, whole = hole, I’m tired. Just put down work. ; )

Bmore on January 15, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Princess. *btw: I was NEVER like that! LoL*

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 11:42 PM

If we lose another AAA rating it’ll be because the democrats in the two years of Obama’s first term saddled the nation with so much debt in an ongoing basis after they caused the crash of 08, that the effort to correct course being attacked by democrats again will be to blame.

Take the bull***ter by the horns.

Speakup on January 15, 2013 at 11:43 PM

Obama, through Sheriff Joe, will be forced to negotiate with the GOP. Hold strong on the debt ceiling, pubs. And get a good deal.

tommy71 on January 15, 2013 at 11:43 PM

“Obama’s short-term political calculations are understandable. It is the cost to posterity that is unreasonable. ”

The cost to posterity is Obama’s long term political calculation. He believes America’s influence in the world is outsized and evil. He means to degrade it to the European level.

novaculus on January 15, 2013 at 11:44 PM

Good evening B9!!

Bmore…RWM!!

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 11:44 PM

Outta Control.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 11:37 PM

my back hurts…we old guys need to take it a little more…..slow.

Tim_CA on January 15, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Since Bazil loved it so much on the other thread (lolz):

Death By Boobs

M2RB: The Who

Mama’s got a squeeze box
She wears on her chest
And when Daddy comes home
He never gets no rest

‘Cause she’s playing all night
And the music’s all right
Mama’s got a squeeze box
Daddy never sleeps at night

Well the kids don’t eat
And the dog can’t sleep
There’s no escape from the music
In the whole damn street

‘Cause she’s playing all night
And the music’s all right
Mama’s got a squeeze box
Daddy never sleeps at night

She goes in and out and in and out and in and out and in and out

hehehe

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 11:45 PM

http://youtu.be/AYMyxTFwuz8

we don’t need a scapel we need an axe

Fred

jrsrigmvr on January 15, 2013 at 11:45 PM

…dig.

equanimous on January 15, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Evening, Scrumpy!

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Tomorrow our President breaks his oath of office – AGAIN!

gophergirl on January 15, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Don’t worry about it. The oath Barky took was invalid, anyway, since he was never eligible for the job.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 15, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Bmore on January 15, 2013 at 11:40 PM

lol…NEVER gets old.

Tim_CA on January 15, 2013 at 11:46 PM

hehehe

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 11:45 PM

On my Ipod.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 11:47 PM

1994 Newt worked long and hard to make the Contract with America the conservative message for that election. It was a massive win for the GOP.

However as soon as these bozos got into office they fought Newt tooth and nail. They were not about to live up to that contract. Although Newt forced a vote on every item on the list many were defeated by Republicans.

Yeah, let’s praise St Newt.

Have you ever read his second acceptance speech as Speaker?

By the way, LOVED that ad he cut with Maerose Prizzi on the loveseat in front of the big, ole Love Shack.

**eyeroll**

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 11:48 PM

jrsrigmvr on January 15, 2013 at 11:45 PM

For sure!!

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 11:48 PM

Good stuff from Rand Paul. We need more of this and it needs to be sprayed everywhere…I had to go searching for it.

Jackalope on January 15, 2013 at 11:43 PM

Fixed link but no idea why your link was broken.

Steveangell on January 15, 2013 at 11:49 PM

In the Absence of Guns

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 11:32 PM

You are now forgiven for damaging my retina. :)

Seriously, excellent job as always.
Just wow..

Y’all need to read this.
rwm..one of the best out there blogging.

bazil9 on January 15, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Classy.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 11:50 PM

Thanks for posting that!! The UK has gone to pot… :-(

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 11:39 PM

You’re welcome. It was from 2000. If you want an update…

Gun Bans: Mad Dogs & Englishmen

M2RB: Leon Russell

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 11:51 PM

A 50-year-old Everett woman is accused of smothering her boyfriend by lying on his face

Death By Boobs

hehehe

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 11:45 PM

I’m revising my “living will” in the morning….if it comes time to pull the plug….this is how I want to go.

Tim_CA on January 15, 2013 at 11:51 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 11:47 PM

The poor guy. He only THOUGHT he was a boob man.

bazil9 on January 15, 2013 at 11:49 PM

:-) Thx.

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 11:52 PM

Glad I know your name.

KCB on January 15, 2013 at 11:52 PM

lol…NEVER gets old.

Tim_CA on January 15, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Great music never does. But boy was I a lot younger. ; )

Bmore on January 15, 2013 at 11:53 PM

Helloooooo Srumpy
Nice to see you!

England is breaking my heart…never even been there!
Not what I image.
I do meet many wonderful Brits here , on “holiday” (always makes me laugh when they say it).
Sad as hell.

bazil9 on January 15, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Yeah, let’s praise St Newt.

Have you ever read his second acceptance speech as Speaker?

By the way, LOVED that ad he cut with Maerose Prizzi on the loveseat in front of the big, ole Love Shack.

**eyeroll**

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 11:48 PM

Bigger hero in my book than Reagan. Reagan never balanced the budget let alone got a surplus. But sure let us ignore all of that because your Democrat masters hate him.

Of course Reagan had to work with Tip O’Neil so not saying it was Reagan’s fault but by the same token Reagan killed Thorium Reactors because they were not in California. I detest him for that those fast breeders in California were a disaster and killed the Nuclear Energy program.

Steveangell on January 15, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Evening Scrumpy, did you write/add any?

Bmore on January 15, 2013 at 11:54 PM

hehehe

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Resist we Much:Lol,and…ahem:)
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Calif. teacher with past in pornography loses appeal to return to classroom, lawyer says – @AP

1 hour ago from http://www.miamiherald.com by editor
=================================================

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/15/3184422/calif-teacher-with-past-in-porn.html

canopfor on January 15, 2013 at 11:55 PM

http://youtu.be/6HpY31CGgqY

One of these days

Fred

jrsrigmvr on January 15, 2013 at 11:55 PM

Hate. This. Song.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 11:56 PM

Who cares about the debt ceiling? Confiscate guns!

The Rogue Tomato on January 15, 2013 at 11:56 PM

bazil9 on January 15, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Hey b. ; ) Nice to be on a thread together. Been a while. Lol!

Bmore on January 15, 2013 at 11:57 PM

The tree’s in the dawn of the Forest.
The smell of new wood and damp grass
Embracing me into its peacefulness.
The ancient Stone wall
Covered in moss and cracks.
Cracks that recall a thousand tales from the past of its life,
Each one with a beginning and end,a weep, a tear,a love,a joy.

Only when the eyes meet with the sorrow or a crying wolf.
Only when these lips break the stitches.
Only when the sun breaks the shadows in my wonderland,
Will my soul ever leave…

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 11:57 PM

Bmore on January 15, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Not yet…having a bit of a block!!

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Calif. teacher with past in pornography loses appeal to return to classroom, lawyer says – @AP

canopfor on January 15, 2013 at 11:55 PM

Honestly…where were these teachers when I was a kid?

We were lucky if they didn’t smell like mothballs…or wear a bad wig.

Tim_CA on January 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 11:56 PM

My first wife’s name was Barbara. How many Ken and Barbie jokes do you think I heard?

KCB on January 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM

********* Alert,School TakeOver ****************

*Parents Pull The Trigger*……

Reuters Top News ‏@Reuters

Parents seek to take control of failing Los Angeles school http://reut.rs/Wb2Z4R
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Parents seek to take control of failing Los Angeles school

LOS ANGELES | Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:28pm EST
*******************************************

(Reuters) – Parents at an underperforming Los Angeles elementary school are seeking to wrest control from the nation’s second-largest school system a week after parents in a rural California community made history by taking over a failing school there.

Supporters of the latest effort at the 24th Street Elementary School will deliver signed petitions invoking the state’s controversial “parent trigger” law on Thursday to the Los Angeles Unified School District headquarters, activists said.

“The parents have been trying to change conditions there for at least the past four years,” said David Phelps, a spokesman for Parent Revolution, which has been working with the parents to organize the campaign. “It’s time for that to happen.”(More..)
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/16/us-usa-education-trigger-idUSBRE90F07M20130116

canopfor on January 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 11:48 PM

By the way that was typical DNC tactics. You know you can not work with the facts because the Fact is Newt gained control for the GOP for the first time in 40 long years using purely Conservative messaging. But you detest conservatives. Newt went on to be widely sucessful in implementing the Contract so that really makes you hate him.

Thus you have no facts that matter to work with. So what do you go with?

Meaningless facts of a speech that was pointed at the Establishment Republicans that just assured Clinton a second term. Yes he did not like those turn coat Republicans much.

Steveangell on January 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM

I’m revising my “living will” in the morning….if it comes time to pull the plug….this is how I want to go.

Tim_CA on January 15, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Classic, but did you miss the part about her being drunk and his mobile home roommate or the earlier incidents that evening in the trailer park where she was throwing him around?

Tim writes “Note to Self”: Never room with a woman who 1) is stronger than I am, 2) weighs more than I do, 3) can throw me around a trailer park when she’s drunk, and 4) wears a bra that says “Size: Each one is bigger than your head.”

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Steveangell on January 15, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Thanks. I’m sure I messed it up, I don’t do this often.

Jackalope on January 16, 2013 at 12:00 AM

In case this hasn’t been posted…

Texas to Join Wyoming: Felony Charges for Enforcing New Gun Control

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/15/Texas-to-Join-Wyoming-Felony-Charges-For-Enforcing-New-Gun-Control

I’m more concerned about our 2nd Amendment rights that those wimps in the House over the debt ceiling. They will cave again, so no sense worrying about what will occur on that.

What a disaster 2008 was.

bluefox on January 16, 2013 at 12:02 AM

My first wife’s name was Barbara. How many Ken and Barbie jokes do you think I heard?

KCB on January 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Neither of my husbands have been ‘Kens’. LoL

I used to get a lot of ‘Babwa Wawa’ comments.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 16, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM

lol…

Spoil-Sport
:-(

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Hey b. ; ) Nice to be on a thread together. Been a while. Lol!

Bmore on January 15, 2013 at 11:57 PM

I know!
like old times..
just missing angry mike and a few other peeps.
Got pie? :)

bazil9 on January 16, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Thanks. I’m sure I messed it up, I don’t do this often.

Jackalope on January 16, 2013 at 12:00 AMKeep at it. It had to be very close. You can test in preview.

Steveangell on January 16, 2013 at 12:04 AM

bluefox on January 16, 2013 at 12:02 AM

Molon Labe!
Love, Wyoming & Texas!

annoyinglittletwerp on January 16, 2013 at 12:04 AM

KCB on January 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM

omg..hilarious.
I am sure you heard it all..
repeatedly.

bazil9 on January 16, 2013 at 12:04 AM

bazil9 on January 16, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Peach, not the good/b recipe though. lol! ; ) At least its pie. Blueberry next. Yum!

Bmore on January 16, 2013 at 12:06 AM

rwm..sharping her Ax…
waiting..yee haw!!

bazil9 on January 16, 2013 at 12:06 AM

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Funny.

But I prefer to marry one and keep her for the rest of my life. 35 years and counting.

Steveangell on January 16, 2013 at 12:06 AM


Looks like Hopey finally found someone to bless,
his..F’n…$%^&*(&^%$#$%^&*&^%$#@$%^& Abomination,

er,InAuguration!
===============

Episcopal pastor named to bless Obama inauguration – @USATODAY

33 secs ago from http://www.usatoday.com by editor
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/15/obama-inauguration-prayer-gays/1837949/

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 12:07 AM

bazil9 on January 15, 2013 at 11:54 PM

I bet you do!! It’s ‘oliday… lol… mind it all depends where you come from lol…

I can play a little ditty and you can hear the accent from my part of the UK the west country…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TumQlSFnlmc&list=PL1D690FE630AAAC0E

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 12:08 AM

) wears a bra that says “Size: Each one is bigger than your head.”

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM

…I’m still laughing!

KOOLAID2 on January 16, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Geitner may have got those gazillion dollar coins ready, just in case.

tommy71 on January 16, 2013 at 12:08 AM

My first wife’s name was Barbara. How many Ken and Barbie jokes do you think I heard?

KCB on January 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM

lol…GTFO!

I’ll bet you were invited to a lot of parties….it would have been a riot to introduce you around.

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 12:09 AM

Spawn.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 16, 2013 at 12:11 AM

Just incase you are wondering:

A Wurzel is a short form of Mangel-Wurzel(or Mangold-Wurzel)which is a type of beet or turnip grown for feeding to cattle or sheep.

Comes from the German Mangold = Beet, Wurzel = root.

There ain’t no such thing as a wurzel tree!

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Oregon Sheriff,tell Biden’s Posse’ to BOINK OFF!

**D*mmitt..Were Americans**

The Associated Press ‏@AP

Oregon sheriff tells Biden his department won’t enforce any new gun laws it considers unconstitutional: http://apne.ws/109r4Pj – VW
================================================================

— Jan. 15 10:45 PM EST

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — An Oregon sheriff has sent a letter to Vice President Joe Biden saying his department will not enforce any new gun laws it considers unconstitutional.

Linn County Sheriff Tim Mueller, in his letter dated Monday, said politicians are “attempting to exploit the deaths of innocent victims” by supporting laws that would harm law-abiding Americans. The sheriff said he took an oath to support the Constitution, and laws preventing citizens from owning certain semi-automatic firearms and ammunition magazines would violate their rights.

“We are Americans,” Mueller wrote.

“We must not allow, nor shall we tolerate, the actions of criminals, no matter how heinous the crimes, to prompt politicians to enact laws that will infringe upon the liberties of responsible citizens who have broken no laws.”(More…)
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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ore-sheriff-says-he-wont-enforce-new-gun-laws#overlay-context=article/calif-teacher-past-porn-loses-appeal

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Thus you have no facts that matter to work with. So what do you go with?

Meaningless facts of a speech that was pointed at the Establishment Republicans that just assured Clinton a second term. Yes he did not like those turn coat Republicans much.

Steveangell on January 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Oh, you really, really, really did NOT want to go there, Stevie…

I went with the FACT that Gingrich made a speech that could have been given by ANY DEMOCRATIC SPEAKER. I went with the FACT that “St Newt” is NO BLOODY SAINT. Let’s look at just one aspect of your blessed Newt’s record:

“I am completely opposed to the Obamacare mandate on individuals. I fought it for two and half years at the Center for Health Transformation. You can see all the things we did to stop it at HealthTransformation.net. I am for the repeal of Obamacare and I am against any effort to impose a federal mandate on anyone because it is fundamentally wrong and I believe unconstitutional.”

- Recorded statement by Newt Gingrich, from the GOP candidate’s Web site.

“If you explore the mandate, it ultimately ends up with unconstitutional powers. It allows the government to define virtually everything. And if you can do it for health care, you can do it for everything in your life, and, therefore, we should not have a mandate.”

- Newt Gingrich, GOP debate in Manchester, N.H., 13 June 2011

“Well, I agree that all of us have a responsibility to pay — help pay for health care…. I’ve said consistently we ought to have some requirement that you either have health insurance or you post a bond.”

- Newt Gingrich, Meet The Press, 15 May 2011

Gingrich Called for ObamaCare Mandate in May 2009

“A health care system that is driven by robust comparative clinical evidence will save lives and money.”

- Newt Gingrich with John Kerry and Billy Beane, How to Take American Health Care From Worst to First, New York Times, 24 October 2008

Here he is in 2007:

“In order to make coverage more accessible, Congress must do more, including passing legislation to: establish a national health insurance marketplace by giving individuals the freedom to shop for insurance plans across state lines; provide low-income families with $1,000 in direct contributions to a health savings account, along with a $2,000 advanced tax credit to purchase an HSA-eligible high-deductible health plan; make premiums for these plans tax deductible; provide tax rebates to small businesses that contribute to their employees’ HSAs; extend and expand grant funding to high-risk pools across the country; and require anyone who earns more than $50,000 a year to purchase health insurance or post a bond. [Emphasis added.]”

- Newt Gingrich, Covering the uninsured – do we want markets or mandates?, 25 June 2007

“Personal responsibility extends to the purchase of health insurance. Citizens should not be able to cheat their neighbors by not buying insurance, particularly when they can afford it, and expect others to pay for their care when they need it. An ‘individual mandate’ [should be applied] when the larger health-care system has been fundamentally changed.”

- Newt Gingrich, Des Moines Register, June 2007

In 2011…2009…2008…in 2007…in 2006:

“The 21st Century System of Health and Healthcare will partner with you first to prevent illness and then to care for you as a patient if you become ill.”

- Newt Gingrich, Saving Lives & Saving Money, 2006

In an April 2006 memo, Gingrich called MittCare “the most exciting development of the past few weeks.” Gingrich also said the law has “tremendous potential to effect major change in the American health system.” The memo also noted shortcomings in the Massachusetts law. Gingrich said the state’s many regulations prohibited insurers from offering cheaper plans that would make coverage affordable. But Gingrich went on to note that that “we agree entirely with Gov. Romney and Massachusetts legislators that our goal should be 100 percent insurance coverage for all Americans.”

Cont…

Resist We Much on January 16, 2013 at 12:13 AM

In 2011…2009…2008…in 2007…in 2006…in 2005 (with Hillary Clinton, no less):

Newt in 2005 Supporting Individual Mandate

“Some aspect of the working poor has to involve transfer of finances. To ask people in the lowest paying jobs to bear the full burden of their health insurance is just irrational, it’s not going to happen…One of my conclusions in the last six years, funding the Center for Health Transformation, and looking at what our system is, unless you have 100 percent coverage, you can’t have the right preventive care and you can’t have a rational system.

[...]

If I see someone who’s earning over $50,000 a year, who has made the calculated decision not to buy health insurance. I’m looking at someone who’s absolutely as irresponsible as anybody who is ever on welfare….I’m actually in favor of saying, whatever the appropriate income is, you ought to either have health insurance, or you ought to post a bond. But we have no room in this society to have a free rider approach if you’re well off economically to say we’ll cheat our neighbors.”

- Newt Gingrich, Healthcare Cease Fire, 2005

“Large risk pools…should be established so low income people can buy insurance as inexpensively as large corporations.”

- Newt Gingrich, Winning the Future, 2005

In 2011…2009…2008…in 2007…in 2006…in 2005…in 2003:

“I think government, and this may surprise you since I am a conservative, I think government HAS to lead because government is the largest, single purchaser in the system. In particular, of the Medicare bills, a very important centre of this because Medicare is the largest, single purchaser in the entire system, including all of government, and for government not to lead guarantees you don’t have the ability to change the because no private corporation has the purchasing power or the ability to reshape the health system.

In this sense, I guess that I am a Theodore Roosevelt-Republican because I believe that government can lead and that regulatory leading is okay. Roosevelt set up the Food and Drug Act* so I think that it is legitimate for the government to take the leading role. I like having the private sector deliver within a framework set by the government. So, I like knowing that the government has made sure that the airplane that I get on is safe, but I am very happy to let a private company run the airplane. I am happy to walk into McDonald’s knowing that the water is drinkable and the beef is actually beef, but I am happy to have a private company providing the food. I don’t want a government-run commissary, but I do like having the government as regulator.

The second place that I come from is as an Eisenhower Republican. Eisenhower proposed in 1955 the Interstate Highway System and it was initially an anti-nuclear war national defence system. All of those roads that you used to go on vacation and all of the roads that our trucking industry uses to deliver things inexpensively was designed as a national security thing.

I would suggest that you can take the Eisenhower model and apply it to biological threats and building bio-communication and you can justify a substantial investment in information technology just like Eisenhower and I suggest that you can decide on best outcomes and patient safety just like Theodore Roosevelt — and I say this as a Republican because a lot of my conservative friends will say, “Oh, my gosh, how can you be saying this?” and I think that is to misread the history of the last 100 years of the United States.

Government HAS to take a leading role and when you look at what is going to happen to Medicare, the government also has the biggest stake, and the taxpayer has the biggest stake. Look at the staggering increase in the number of people who will be on Medicare, 39.6 million in 2000 to 76.8 million in 2030. Almost everyone in this room is younger than the Baby Boomers, I want you to think about the tax burden you are going to have in 2030 if we don’t find a way to dramatically improve Medicare. Medicare goes up. In fact, there’s a number…according to the Centre for Medicare and Medicaid Services, it will become 25% – Medicare and Medicaid – will become 25% of the Federal budget in 2009.

So, anybody who hopes to ever get back to a balanced budget, you had better think about transforming healthcare. It is impossible to get to a balanced budget without transforming the health system. I don’t care what you do.”

- Newt Gingrich, 2003

In 2011…2009…2008…in 2007…in 2006…in 2005…in 2003…in 2000:

“The time has come for Congress and the president to act on behalf of all Americans. It is time to stop defending inefficiency and to drag health care into the 21st century by insisting on modern management and information systems…Don Berwick at the Institute for Healthcare Improvement has worked for years to spread the word that the same systematic approach to quality control that has worked so well in manufacturing could create a dramatically safer, less expensive and more effective system of health and health care.”

- Newt Gingrich, High-Tech Cure for Medical Mistakes, Washington Post, 2 August 2000

Don Berwick would be the same Don Berwick, who Obama appointed to lead Medicare & Medicaid and WHO LOVES HIM SOME BRITISH NHS & NICE, including the Liverpool Care Pathway.

In 2011…2009…2008…in 2007…in 2006…in 2005…in 2003…in 2000…in 1993:

“I am for people, individuals — exactly like automobile insurance — individuals having health insurance and being required to have health insurance. And I am prepared to vote for a voucher system which will give individuals, on a sliding scale, a government subsidy so we insure that everyone as individuals have health insurance.”

- Newt Gingrich, Meet The Press, 3 October 1993

And, a Federal health insurance mandate is just the start of it!

Would you like me to continue to beat you like a ginger-headed stepchild?

Resist We Much on January 16, 2013 at 12:13 AM

Spawn*better quality*

annoyinglittletwerp on January 16, 2013 at 12:14 AM

) wears a bra that says “Size: Each one is bigger than your head.”

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 11:59 PM

…I’m still laughing!

KOOLAID2 on January 16, 2013 at 12:08 AM

KOOLAID2:Me too,NightMarish:)

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 12:14 AM

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Bloody good show!! Kudos to the Sheriff!!

Hope many more take on this attitude!!

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 12:15 AM

Say…everyone like to watch a good train disaster, right?

Bmore on January 16, 2013 at 12:15 AM

But I prefer to marry one and keep her for the rest of my life. 35 years and counting.

Steveangell on January 16, 2013 at 12:06 AM

No one cares.

Resist We Much on January 16, 2013 at 12:15 AM

I’m more concerned about our 2nd Amendment rights that those wimps in the House over the debt ceiling. They will cave again, so no sense worrying about what will occur on that.

What a disaster 2008 was.

bluefox on January 16, 2013 at 12:02 AM

Yes the Establishment really learned by their 2008 mistake. They learned so well that.

They did exactly the same thing in 2012. They picked a candidate the base did not want. Assured the base he was electable. Assured the base that their other Establishment Candidates were electable (20 lost in the Senate or so). Then when they lost they blamed the base. They blamed those they they fought against the most. The base of the party.

But then too. The Mistake started in 2000. As soon as GW became President he passed bill after bill that raised spending. He was not the conservative he claimed at all. He thus lost seats in 2002. But he did not learn he thus lost more in 2004 barely wining reelection but with a conservative lying message again. But then he went hog wild literally. Every piece of pork he could think of he signed into law the biggest being the trillion dollar cost Medicare Part D (over it’s life). He then promptly lost the House but did ne learn anything. Heck no he doubled down. He ended up having the first Trillion Dollar Deficit and giving Obama a filibuster proof hold on Government.

So Blame GW. After all that is exactly why we have Obama.

Steveangell on January 16, 2013 at 12:16 AM

KOOLAID2 on January 16, 2013 at 12:08 AM

KOOLAID2:Me too,NightMarish:)

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 12:14 AM

lolz

Resist We Much on January 16, 2013 at 12:16 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on January 16, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Here is one of the comments in that Breitbart article:

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The sheriff of Jackson Country, Kentucky also will not enforce any new guns laws & will arrest the feds.

That may have been an article on Breitbart this week also, but can’t remember.

I hope more and more States follow this.

bluefox on January 16, 2013 at 12:16 AM

Resist We Much on January 16, 2013 at 12:13 AM

um….somebody get a body bag…oh and a mop (or two).

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 12:17 AM

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 12:14 AM

…thanks for the linky’s…been busy at work…and as usual…you are keeping me posted!

KOOLAID2 on January 16, 2013 at 12:17 AM

Would you like me to continue to beat you like a (red) ginger-headed stepchild?

Resist We Much on January 16, 2013 at 12:13 AM

Lady you got !!! You know !!

Beat him up!!

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 12:17 AM

Slow Train – Bonamassa

thatsafactjack on January 16, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Say…everyone like to watch a good train disaster, right?

Bmore on January 16, 2013 at 12:15 AM

I’m married to an old-school railroader. I’ve joked that if he were to cheat on me, the other ‘woman’ would have drive wheels, steam engine, and a fire box. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on January 16, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Trains………. HeII.

Bmore on January 16, 2013 at 12:19 AM

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 12:08 AM

hahaha..thx.
Never heard anything like that before.
I can always spot the Brits on ‘oliday here..
white as a sheet-with 2nd degree sunburns.
LOL.
Very friendly and fun. Waited tables and tended bar in college-
they were usually a blast. The Aussies too.
As far as tourists go.

bazil9 on January 16, 2013 at 12:19 AM

Bigger hero in my book than Reagan. Reagan never balanced the budget let alone got a surplus. But sure let us ignore all of that because your Democrat masters hate him.

Steveangell on January 15, 2013 at 11:54 PM

The tinfoil is strong with this one.

Resist We Much on January 16, 2013 at 12:19 AM

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ore-sheriff-says-he-wont-enforce-new-gun-laws#overlay-context=article/calif-teacher-past-porn-loses-appeal

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Awesome. I’m hoping more and more Patriots step up to the plate.

Hope all is going well with you canopfor!!

Just thinking we better be saying a prayer for these brave Patriots.

bluefox on January 16, 2013 at 12:20 AM

What a disaster 2008 was.

bluefox on January 16, 2013 at 12:02 AM

bluefox:And Oregon joins in:)

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/us/article/Ore-sheriff-says-he-won-t-enforce-new-gun-laws-4197032.php

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 12:21 AM

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