Quotes of the day

posted at 10:51 pm on January 15, 2013 by Allahpundit

The United States could lose its top credit rating for the second time from a leading credit agency if there’s a delay in raising the country’s debt ceiling, Fitch Ratings warned Tuesday…

“The pressure on the U.S. rating, if anything, is increasing,” David Riley, managing director of Fitch Ratings’ global sovereigns division said at a London conference. “We thought the 2011 crisis was a one-off event …. if we have a repeat we will place the U.S. rating under review.”…

Riley warned that the different arms of the U.S. government still have a number of issues to address. As well as increasing the debt ceiling, they have to agree to spending cuts that were delayed as part of the ‘fiscal cliff’ agreement and back measures to avoid a government shutdown, potentially in March.

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For the first time since Social Security’s cash crisis in 1983, the program can’t afford to pay full benefits for its youngest crop of new retirees through life expectancy, government data show.

The hastening of the Social Security Trust Fund’s demise to 2033 means that workers just becoming eligible for Social Security at age 62 face steep future benefit cuts if they live to the average life expectancy, now about 84.

Those abrupt benefit cuts of about 25% a year for today’s 62 year olds and workers nearing the early retirement age would come at an especially bad time — late in life when savings have dwindled and health care bills are on the rise.

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What’s more, according to AARP, health care costs are rising faster than wages. One study, done in conjunction with the Urban Institute predicts that the average retirement income will fall from the current 80 percent of average earnings, to 73 percent of earnings. When health care costs are figured in, it’s even worse. The study says that retirees will have to live on a budget that is just over half of what they made when they were working.

The study also predicted that middle-income retirees will rely on social security for about half of their retirement income. For low-income earners, social security will make of 69 percent of their retirement money. The average social security payment today is just over $13,000 a year.

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Rejecting GOP ultimatums, Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Tuesday that new revenues must accompany spending cuts as Congress prepares to jump headfirst into a series of high-stakes budget debates…

Hoyer, the Democratic whip, said it’s “categorically not true” that the last deal takes new revenues off the table in the coming talks.

“I certainly reject it out of hand,” Hoyer said during his weekly Capitol press briefing. “You cannot get to where we need to get — to get our country on a fiscally sustainable path — without additional revenues.”

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To avoid a crisis, taxes would need to start rising sharply in the middle part of this decade. The U.S. can support 3% budget deficits without a disastrous increase in debt, since the economy will potentially grow at that rate. So by the mid-2020s, we’d need to have a system in place that collects an extra 3 points of GDP in revenues. That’s the 25.5% spending rate, minus around 22.5%, approximately representing the 19.6% share of revenues plus the 3% deficit.

How big is that number? By 2028, it would total around $1 trillion. Raising an extra $1 trillion would require a 37% rise in income taxes. Hiking tax rates on anyone, high-earners or the middle class, won’t remotely collect that kind of money. Once again, the 19.6% of GDP is about the limit of what the current tax system can provide, given that marginal tax rates far higher than today’s have seldom collected more than that share…

If Washington gridlock persists, the big new tax is a virtual certainty. The most probable choice will be a VAT. Since the VAT is assessed on things people buy, not their incomes, it falls heavily on the middle class. Suddenly, the issue is sneaking into the fiscal debate. A January 7th editorial in the New York Times called for a VAT. The same week, in a piece criticizing the nomination of Jack Lew for Treasury Secretary, the Wall Street Journal editorial page groused that President Obama’s spending plans will saddle America with a VAT by default.

This isn’t what the middle class was promised. But the numbers, even assuming good days ahead for the economy, point inexorably in that direction. We don’t know what crisis will enable the phantom to take charge. But every day of inaction brings that crisis nearer.

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[A]t a more elemental level, we need significant attitudinal change. Governments and legislators, for example, have to cease viewing public finances as a vote-attracting tool.

I’m afraid, however, that the bigger challenge may well be for ordinary Americans. To put it bluntly, we need to accept that our participation in democracy cannot degenerate into voting for whoever promises us the most stuff.

In short, if we’re unwilling to use our democratic freedoms responsibly, America seriously risks degenerating into what one German academic described in 2009 as the situation prevailing throughout much of Western Europe: “fiscal kleptocracy.” Citizens vote for those politicians who use state power to give their supporters what they want at other peoples’ expense.

Fiscally, that translates into tax increases, no substantial spending cuts, and a colossal debt-burden for our children.

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Economist Herbert Stein observed that something that can’t go on forever, won’t. The United States can’t go on forever increasing its debt by 60% every four years. Therefore, it won’t. The only question is how things will stop — smoothly or catastrophically.

As we head into the next debt-ceiling debate, it’s worth considering these words from a patriotic senator concerned with America’s future:

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. . . . It is a sign that the U.S. government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.”

The senator? Sen. Barack Obama, in 2006.

I wish that guy was President now.

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Some conservatives are convinced that this is the full emergence of Obama’s democratic socialism. This explanation is not required. Obama probably still views himself as a pragmatist. He may comfort himself that he will take incremental action on Medicare in due time. But at this moment three factors overlap: his liberal policy instincts, a political opportunity to break his opponents, and the massively inflated self-confidence produced by reelection. So, force the GOP to surrender on the debt limit, with nothing in return. Require Republicans to accept new taxes in exchange for any real spending reductions. If they agree, their caucus is fractured (again). And if they refuse (which they are likely to do), paint them as obstructionists and extremists who are willing to destroy the economy/the nation’s credit rating/the military for their own ideological purposes.

There is one main downside to this approach. It delays any serious action on long-term debt for at least another two (and probably four) years. It is the path of a government that moves from fiscal crisis to crisis, gradually undermining global confidence that it can manage its own affairs. An economy in which uncertainty, slow growth and high unemployment become norms. A federal budget increasingly devoted to entitlements at the expense of other purposes, including defense — eventually undercutting our international influence in the same way that Europe has become depleted, insular and toothless.

Obama’s short-term political calculations are understandable. It is the cost to posterity that is unreasonable.

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Via Mediaite.

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Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 2:17 AM

Leaving??

KCB on January 16, 2013 at 2:19 AM

jrsrigmvr on January 16, 2013 at 2:18 AM

Right on Fred!!

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 2:19 AM

arnold ziffel on January 16, 2013 at 2:18 AM

Good night lol!! Sleep well

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 2:20 AM

KCB on January 16, 2013 at 2:19 AM

Yeah in a few… giving Cohen a listen?

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 2:21 AM

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 2:21 AM

yes. It is different.

Nite arnold!

KCB on January 16, 2013 at 2:22 AM

One more for the road!

He is Canada’s poet/singer/writer… his songs have such depth and meaning…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Fkuq5Lf0Q

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 2:23 AM

Covering everything he has an opinion on… :-)

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 2:24 AM

This one too…

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 2:05 AM

dammit…that song’s part of my “Relaxation Mix”…never thought of it as a durge….!

lol…all these decades…

you owe me.

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 2:27 AM

It’s just you n me Ken!! And I am sad to say, it is way past my slumber time!!

God Bless and sleep good!! Sweet dreams!!

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 2:28 AM

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 2:23 AM

May be an acquired taste.

KCB on January 16, 2013 at 2:28 AM

Good Night and thanks for sharing with me. Tell Tigger bye!

KCB on January 16, 2013 at 2:29 AM

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 2:27 AM

Sorry!! It’s just meaningful to me that way…

Good night to you too Tim!! Sleep well… :-)

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 2:30 AM

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 2:24 AM

that’s how i would sound if i could sing. LOL

Fred

jrsrigmvr on January 16, 2013 at 2:30 AM

KCB on January 16, 2013 at 2:28 AM

He is… I didn’t acquire the ‘taste til many many years later.

Nite!!

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 2:31 AM

You might like this one, Tim

Jim Stafford – “Wildwood Weed”

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 2:31 AM

Good Night guys!

KCB on January 16, 2013 at 2:32 AM

Good night AC!!

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 2:32 AM

Scrumpy on January 16, 2013 at 2:30 AM

;-)

Nite all…gonna catch the opening of the tonight show.

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 2:32 AM

hallejulah

love it thanks scrump

Fred

jrsrigmvr on January 16, 2013 at 2:33 AM

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 2:31 AM

LMFAO – have this tune on my desktop, laptop, phone, Ipod, home entertainment system…and even had parts as ringtones.

Surprised anyone else remembers it!!

“Y’all come back now Ya’here?”

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 2:35 AM

Goodnight Scrumpy and Ken. :)

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 2:36 AM

LMFAO – have this tune on my desktop, laptop, phone, Ipod, home entertainment system…and even had parts as ringtones.

Surprised anyone else remembers it!!

“Y’all come back now Ya’here?”

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 2:35 AM

LOL :)

I have the CD. Jim is a good guy!

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 2:37 AM

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 2:37 AM

let’s see if you remember this.

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 2:41 AM

I think this version of “Hallelujah” by Jeff Buckley is the best one – no doubt it’s sung better!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIF4_Sm-rgQ

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 2:43 AM

let’s see if you remember this.

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 2:41 AM

Yep! I have that on mp3, not CD, though.

Do you know this? The Coasters – “Let’s Go get Stoned”

I like The Amboy Dukes version better, but YouTube doesn’t appear to have it.

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 2:50 AM

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 2:41 AM

stop stop STOP

yep i remember

Fred

jrsrigmvr on January 16, 2013 at 2:52 AM

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 2:50 AM

know it well…love it…and since the “reefer madness” has spread to this thread…

Reefer Headed Woman

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 2:55 AM

Darn,

I missed my B9. I was too busy tonight of all nights.

My psychic powers really should have told me to login in but the Magic * Ball said no. Poop.

I missed B9 and Scrumpy; who I cheat with when B9 is not around.

SparkPlug on January 16, 2013 at 2:57 AM

know it well…love it…and since the “reefer madness” has spread to this thread…

Reefer Headed Woman

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 2:55 AM

lol

Where’s Mimzey, to complete the circle? :)

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 2:58 AM

Fred

jrsrigmvr on January 16, 2013 at 2:52 AM

lol…sorry amigo…in for a penny…in for a pound.

(“I ain’t even gotta garage you can call home and ask my wife”)

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 2:59 AM

I’m pretty sure you’ll know this, too

The Rolling Stones – “Stoned”

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 3:01 AM

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Sir: we’ve had our differencies and so it will remain. Cohen has something which jeff lacks. Given that Jeff has a better voice but Cohen has emotion, heart, soul whatever.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on January 16, 2013 at 3:04 AM

Where’s Mimzey, to complete the circle? :)

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 2:58 AM

lol…running around IN a circle by itself somewhere.

lol…I see something like that and think…maybe I should cut back a little….but then I realize that it’s impossible to smoke yourself that brain-dead (I more than tried in college).

That dude/gal is f’n nuts.

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 3:05 AM

Sir: we’ve had our differencies

Over bluegill, you mean? :)

and so it will remain. Cohen has something which jeff lacks. Given that Jeff has a better voice but Cohen has emotion, heart, soul whatever.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on January 16, 2013 at 3:04 AM

I like Cohen’s version, I just think Buckley does a better job overall. I don’t think his version is lacking soul, either – it’s just different.

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 3:08 AM

The Rolling Stones – “Stoned”

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 3:01 AM

perfect….here’s the trump card.

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 3:10 AM

lol…running around IN a circle by itself somewhere.

lol…I see something like that and think…maybe I should cut back a little….but then I realize that it’s impossible to smoke yourself that brain-dead (I more than tried in college).

That dude/gal is f’n nuts.

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 3:05 AM

I know.

I don’t understand how people can be so dense and uninsightful about their own flaws – what happened to “A man’s got to know his limitations” with them? It’s no wonder they obsess so over others’ “problems”.

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 3:13 AM

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 3:10 AM

If it wern’t for your musical taste we might have a problem.

Fred

jrsrigmvr on January 16, 2013 at 3:14 AM

perfect….here’s the trump card.

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 3:10 AM

That’s always good! So is this – I noticed Jackie linked it recently

Don’t Bogart That Joint

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 3:19 AM

Fred

jrsrigmvr on January 16, 2013 at 3:14 AM

lol.

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 3:21 AM

http://youtu.be/oADN1q_mgeg

fred

jrsrigmvr on January 16, 2013 at 3:21 AM

Bam! How did I miss it?

I’ll follow up with this…but that was good.

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 3:28 AM

http://youtu.be/oADN1q_mgeg

fred

jrsrigmvr on January 16, 2013 at 3:21 AM

lol…and frank plays the floyd card!

Well done sir.

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 3:31 AM

This one is really funny

Wendell Austin – “LSD”

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 3:31 AM

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 3:31 AM

lol…FRED.

sorry…been…uh….gettin’ in the spirit of the tunes.

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 3:32 AM

Wendell Austin – “LSD”

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 3:31 AM

Friggin’ Hilarious!

Never heard that one before.

I’ll leave ya with pass the dutchie…and fly off to bed!

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 3:41 AM

lol…and frank plays the floyd card!

Well done sir.

Tim_CA on January 16, 2013 at 3:31 AM

lol…and frank plays the floyd card

http://youtu.be/d6jIG96kfRU

and the ace

adios: vaya con dios

jrsrigmvr on January 16, 2013 at 3:48 AM

***OverNight Drama in the UK*************

Helicopter crashes in Vauxhall, London

There are reports a helicopter has crashed in the Vauxhall area of South London – Sky News

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/helicopter-crashes-in-vauxhall-london
========

Video: Aftermath of helicopter crash in London – YouTube user niczerogoeshome

1 hour ago from http://www.youtube.com by editor

http://www.breakingnews.com/item/ahZzfmJyZWFraW5nbmV3cy13d3ctaHJkcg0LEgRTZWVkGLnFkwwM/2013/01/16/video-aftermath-of-helicopter-crash-in-london-youtube-user-niczerog

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 5:04 AM

**Alert ****

Reuters Top News ‏@Reuters

Islamists seize Japanese, French nationals in Algeria: sources http://reut.rs/X5Tq5W
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Islamists seize Japanese, French nationals in Algeria: sources
Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:57am EST
***************************

(Reuters) – Islamist militants seized five Japanese nationals and a French citizen from an oil facility in Ain Amenas in southern Algeria on Wednesday, local and diplomatic sources told Reuters.

The foreigners were taken from the facility in the morning, they said. There was no immediate confirmation of the abduction from Algerian officials.

French foreign ministry officials said they had no immediate comment on the hostage report and were still trying to verify the information.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/16/us-algeria-kidnap-idUSBRE90F0HB20130116

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 5:11 AM

**** Alert *****

Another Bites zee Dust!

Interior Secretary Ken Salazar to leave cabinet position in March to spend more time with his family – @denverpost

3 hours ago from http://www.denverpost.com by editor
=================================================

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22382151/interior-secretary-ken-salazar-leave-cabinet-position-march

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 5:16 AM

********** Alert *******

Ex-South Carolina Gov. Sanford to announce run for Congress
Jan 15 2013
***********

Former South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford plans to announce Wednesday he is running for his old congressional seat.

His spokesman Joel Sawyer confirmed the announcement to the Associated Press. Sanford said last month that reports were accurate that he was planning a political comeback nearly four years after an affair with an Argentine woman was exposed.

His old 1st District seat is open.

Sanford was a rising Republican political star before he vanished from South Carolina for five days in 2009 to visit his mistress in Argentina. Reporters and others were told he was hiking the Appalachian Trail.

He called Maria Belen Chapur his “soul mate” and the couple got engaged over the summer.

The international affair ended his marriage to Jenny Sanford. She said Monday she would not seek the 1st District seat.
====================================================

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/15/ex-south-carolina-gov-sanford-to-announce-run-for-congress/

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 5:38 AM

***Alert Part Deux-Sanford ******

January 15, 2013 2:48 P.M.
Mark Sanford: I’m Running for Congress
A conversation with the former South Carolina governor
******************************************************

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/337753/mark-sanford-i-m-running-congress-jim-geraghty#

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 5:46 AM

don’t blame me…this is not my economy, it’s the gop congress’
-dear leader

and the folks let him get away with it….arrrrggghhhhhh

cripe…..where is the justice????

cmsinaz on January 16, 2013 at 5:46 AM

morning canopfor :)

cmsinaz on January 16, 2013 at 5:47 AM

another nra rant by morning joe….getting really old…

cmsinaz on January 16, 2013 at 6:07 AM

another nra rant by morning joe….getting really old…

cmsinaz on January 16, 2013 at 6:07 AM

It’s gotten very hard to watch lately. I think I’ve given up.

Naturally Curly on January 16, 2013 at 6:12 AM

Naturally Curly on January 16, 2013 at 6:12 AM

yup…

monring nc

cmsinaz on January 16, 2013 at 6:14 AM

morning canopfor :)

cmsinaz on January 16, 2013 at 5:47 AM

cmsinaz:

Good Morning,has MJ talked about yesterdays,two school shootings
yet!:)

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 6:15 AM

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 6:15 AM

nope, just the nra ad…calling it political pornography…

cmsinaz on January 16, 2013 at 6:17 AM

so the nra is atrocious but folks who created stamps with a gun pointing at W’s head or a movie about his assassination is art and it’s all good….

hypocrites

cmsinaz on January 16, 2013 at 6:20 AM

Good morning, cms. Good morning, canopfor. The news is relentlessly depressing these days.

Naturally Curly on January 16, 2013 at 6:20 AM

****OOPS****

Obama gun panel draws lawsuit
Jan 15 2013
***********

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2013/01/obama-gun-panel-draws-lawsuit-154311.html?hp=r4
=========================================

Freedom Watch ‏@freedomwatchweb

OBAMA, BIDEN AND GUN CONTROL TASK FORCE SUED http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/obama-biden-and-gun-control-task-force-sued

http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/obama-biden-and-gun-control-task-force-sued

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 6:26 AM

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 6:15 AM

nope, just the nra ad…calling it political pornography…

cmsinaz on January 16, 2013 at 6:17 AM

cmsinaz:Is that, the Hopey is a HippyCrit vid!:)

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 6:30 AM

Good morning, Americans.
“So, This is How Liberty Dies…”
My take.

kingsjester on January 16, 2013 at 6:30 AM

Good morning, Americans.
“So, This is How Liberty Dies…”
My take.

kingsjester on January 16, 2013 at 6:30 AM

kingsjester:

Good Morning,to my South to the Border Neighbour:)

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 6:33 AM

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 6:30 AM

yep

cmsinaz on January 16, 2013 at 6:39 AM

This is weird!!

The Associated Press ‏@AP

AP Exclusive: EPA reversed course on tainted Texas water wells after gas company protested. http://apne.ws/U0249c – VW
===================================================

EPA changed course after oil company protested
By RAMIT PLUSHNICK-MASTI
— Jan. 16 3:24 AM EST
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WEATHERFORD, Texas (AP) — When a man in a Fort Worth suburb reported his family’s drinking water had begun “bubbling” like champagne, the federal government sounded an alarm: An oil company may have tainted their wells while drilling for natural gas.

At first, the Environmental Protection Agency believed the situation was so serious that it issued a rare emergency order in late 2010 that said at least two homeowners were in immediate danger from a well saturated with flammable methane. More than a year later, the agency rescinded its mandate and refused to explain why.

Now a confidential report obtained by The Associated Press and interviews with company representatives show that the EPA had scientific evidence against the driller, Range Resources, but changed course after the company threatened not to cooperate with a national study into a common form of drilling called hydraulic fracturing. Regulators set aside an analysis that concluded the drilling could have been to blame for the contamination.

For Steve Lipsky, the EPA decision seemed to ignore the dangers in his well, which he says contains so much methane that the gas in water pouring out of a garden hose can be ignited.

“I just can’t believe that an agency that knows the truth about something like that, or has evidence like this, wouldn’t use it,” said Lipsky, who fears he will have to abandon his dream home in an upscale neighborhood of Weatherford.
(More…)
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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/epa-changed-course-after-oil-company-protested

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 6:40 AM

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 6:33 AM

Good Morning to my favorite North of the Border Neighbor.

We have ice on the elevated roadways in the Memphis Area as a result of freezing rain yesterday. They’ve closed down some of them. School is starting 3 hours late.

kingsjester on January 16, 2013 at 6:40 AM

kingsjester on January 16, 2013 at 6:30 AM

great take KJ

i told mr cmsinaz the same thing all this crapola from dear leader ain’t going to stop the guy downtown buy a gun off the streets….

chicago will continue to be the murder capital of the us…

cmsinaz on January 16, 2013 at 6:42 AM

cmsinaz on January 16, 2013 at 6:42 AM

Thank you! It’s a sad day.

kingsjester on January 16, 2013 at 6:44 AM

There is some good news today . . . I just heard that the disgusting “baby mama” show has been cancelled due to the overwhelmingly negative public reaction, expressed directly to the network. Maybe all is not lost after all.

Naturally Curly on January 16, 2013 at 6:49 AM

Naturally Curly on January 16, 2013 at 6:49 AM

wow, something actually crossed the line in the libs minds???

cmsinaz on January 16, 2013 at 6:55 AM

Hopeys Gun Grabbing!

Obama to unveil gun violence measures Wednesday

By JULIE PACE and ERICA WERNER
— Jan. 16 6:08 AM EST

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama’s broad effort to reduce gun violence will include proposed bans on military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines as well as more than a dozen executive orders aimed at circumventing congressional opposition to stricter gun control.

Obama was to announce the measures Wednesday at a White House event that will bring together law enforcement officials, lawmakers and children who wrote the president about gun violence following last month’s shooting of 20 young students and six adults at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn.

The broad package Obama will unveil will also include efforts to stop bullying and boost availability of mental health services.

But Congress would have to approve the bans on assault weapons and ammunition magazines holding more than 10 bullets, along with a requirement for universal background checks on gun buyers. Some gun control advocates worry that opposition from Republicans and conservative Democrats, as well as the National Rifle Association, will be too great to overcome.

“We’re not going to get an outright ban,” Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., said of limits on assault weapons. Still, McCarthy, a leading voice in Congress in favor of gun control, said she would keep pushing for a ban and hoped Obama would as well.

White House officials, seeking to avoid setting up the president for failure, have emphasized that no single measure — even an assault weapons ban — would solve a scourge of gun violence across the country. But without such a ban or other sweeping, congressionally-approved measures, it’s unclear whether executive actions alone could make any noticeable difference.

“It is a simple fact that there are limits to what can be done within existing law,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said Tuesday. “Congress has to act on the kinds of measures we’ve already mentioned because the power to do that is reserved by Congress.”

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Tuesday signed into law the toughest gun control law in the nation, and the first since the Connecticut school shootings. The law includes a tougher assault-weapons ban and provisions to try to keep guns out of the hands of mentally ill people who make threats.

According to a lobbyist briefed Tuesday, Obama will present a three-part plan focused on gun violence, education and mental health. He’ll call for:

*— A focus on universal background checks. Right now some 40 percent of gun sales take place without background checks, including by private sellers at gun shows or over the Internet, according to the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

*— A ban on assault weapons and limiting ammunition magazines to 10 rounds or fewer.

*— A federal statute to stop “straw man” purchases of guns and crack down on trafficking rings.

*— More anti-bullying efforts; more training for teachers, counselors and principals; and funding for schools for more counselors and resource officers.

Obama also will order federal agencies to conduct more research on gun use and crimes, the lobbyist said, something Republican congressional majorities have limited through language in budget bills.

On mental health, Obama will focus on more availability of mental health services, training more school counselors and mental health professionals, and mental health first aid training for first responders, according to the lobbyist, who was not authorized to discuss the plan publicly before the president’s announcement and requested anonymity.

The president’s framework is based on recommendations from Vice President Joe Biden, who led a wide-ranging task force on gun violence. The vice president’s proposals included 19 steps that could be achieved through executive action.

Obama also may order the Justice Department to crack down on people who lie on gun-sale background checks; only a tiny number are now prosecuted. Such a step has support from the National Rifle Association, which has consistently argued that existing laws must be enforced before new ones are considered.

And Obama may give schools flexibility to use grant money to improve safety.

Gun control proponent Rep. Bobby Scott, D-Va., who met with Biden on Monday, said the president is also likely to take executive action to ensure better state reporting of mental health and other records that go into the federal background check database. But he, too, acknowledged there were clear limits to what Obama can do without Congress’ say-so.

“You can’t change the law through executive order,” Scott said.

White House officials signaled that Obama would seek to rally public support for the measures he puts forward, perhaps holding events around the country or relying on Organizing for America, his still-operational presidential campaign.

Still, it’s unclear how much political capital Obama will exert in pressing for congressional action.

The White House and Congress will soon be consumed by three looming fiscal deadlines. And the president has also pledged to tackle comprehensive immigration reform early this year, another effort that will require Republicans’ support and one in which Obama may be more likely to get their backing.

Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky has warned the White House that it will be at least three months before the Senate considers gun legislation. And Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has said immigration, not gun control, is at the top of his priority list after the fiscal fights.

House Republican leaders are expected to wait for any action by the Senate before deciding how — or whether — to proceed with any gun measure.
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http://bigstory.ap.org/article/obama-unveil-gun-violence-measures-wednesday

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 6:59 AM

cmsinaz on January 16, 2013 at 6:55 AM

Hard to believe, ain’t it?

Naturally Curly on January 16, 2013 at 7:01 AM

****AQ Goon KidNapping Claims Responsiblity Alert ****

Reuters Top News ‏@Reuters

Al Qaeda-linked group claims kidnapping of foreigners in Algeria http://reut.rs/X6wNOO
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Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:12am EST

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/16/us-algeria-kidnap-claim-idUSBRE90F0OQ20130116

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 7:32 AM

Nothing new here. These Marxist rule through the crisis. Cause one, create one, and then push the emotion buttons, use the Hitler technique and create God-fearing conservatives as the enemy and poof-the masses salivate and thank their messiah/saviors for protecting them from good people.

Don L on January 16, 2013 at 7:35 AM

**Crap,AQ even captured an Irishmen**

Reuters Top News ‏@Reuters

Irishman among oil-workers kidnapped in Algeria: govt http://reut.rs/13CHP5f

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 7:36 AM

***AQ KidNapping UpDatey**

Irish government says an Irishman is among the group of oil-workers kidnapped in Algeria, demands immediate release – @Reuters

4 mins ago by editor

canopfor on January 16, 2013 at 7:37 AM

Ruh roh Canopfor

cmsinaz on January 16, 2013 at 7:47 AM

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