Piers Morgan to Ben Shapiro: How about participating in a townhall debate where my other guests and I can berate you?

posted at 3:51 pm on January 15, 2013 by Allahpundit

They need a gun-rights supporter for their ritual shaming ceremony and since Shapiro embarrassed Morgan the other night, he was naturally a top choice. Alternate headline: “Man declines to serve as prop.”

[W]hen it came time to book the show, Morgan’s team refused to tell Shapiro what the format of the show would be. When Shapiro said that he expected balance — a second one-on-one interview with Morgan — Morgan’s producers balked. They did insist strongly, however, that Shapiro appear on the show, where he would be “in for the entire show” and “have a huge part.” When Shapiro again reiterated that balance would be a one-on-one, and asked for more details on what his role would be, Morgan’s producers went silent…

It seems relatively clear what Morgan’s plan was. If Shapiro was to be the centerpiece of the show but not to have any one-on-one facetime with Morgan, this was to be Morgan’s revenge for his clobbering in the last faceoff with Shapiro. During that debate, Shapiro accused Morgan of “standing on the graves of the children of Sandy Hook.” Morgan had no coherent response. This time, it seems, Morgan wasn’t just going to stand on the graves of the children of Sandy Hook – he was going to stack the audience with grieving parents and relatives of the victims of Newtown, then confront Shapiro with them.

The White House is also planning to stack the audience tomorrow with kids for Obama’s big gun-control announcement to remind America that he cares about children and gun-rights supporters don’t. While they’re there, President Caresalot should let them know how much more each of them will owe four years from now after Democrats get done blocking every last proposal for significant spending cuts. He used to pretend to worry about things like that as part of his “for the children” pre-presidential platform. Not anymore.

But I digress. Shapiro’s having fun turning the shame tables on Morgan on Twitter:

Evidently Morgan’s producers have now agreed to two solo segments, so expect another round of faux-indignant “how dare you” stammering from the host tomorrow night. One thing that’s interesting to me about Morgan’s relentless guns grandstanding lately is that I haven’t seen much enthusiasm for it, even from people whom you might expect to cheer him on. Case in point: Watch the Colbert segment below. There’s an odd hint of antagonism to it even though you know Colbert agrees with him on the merits. Maybe that’s a function of suspicion over the old phone-hacking claims against him or maybe it’s as simple as gun-control fans thinking that Morgan’s lame interviews and insufferable posturing do the cause more harm than good. His ratings are strong lately but there seems to be no significant support base for him among lefty media. Or am I just missing it?


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Piers Morgan is a criminal that a petition in Britain affirms to us they do not want back.

What more to be said about that liberal?

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 5:10 PM

The White House is also planning to stack the audience tomorrow with kids for Obama’s big gun-control announcement to remind America that he cares about children and gun-rights supporters don’t.

If they’re in a room with Obama, they too will be under the protection of men with guns. Somebody left the irony on.

CapnObvious on January 15, 2013 at 5:13 PM

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Got you the first time :)

Britain “literally” has no guns? None? Not even law enforcement? No guns and 35-40 deaths a year? Inconceivable!

metrygirl on January 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Can’t wait for you to address this!

Schadenfreude on January 15, 2013 at 5:20 PM

listens2glenn on January 15, 2013 at 5:05 PM
Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 4:21 PM

I thought my snark was obvious, sorry. Aside from the current trend of misusing “literally” just to add emphasis, I can’t believe someone can make such absurd statements and not get laughed off the stage. Are we really to believe there are no guns at all in the UK? How can you even have 35-40 gun deaths a year when there are literally no guns. (and yes, I know he just made up the number of gun deaths as 35-40). My mind is blown that someone with an international audience, who calls himself a journalist, can make such absurd statements and not be called on it.

metrygirl on January 15, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Interesting photo. That girl is going to lose her thumb if she pulls the trigger.

UltimateBob on January 15, 2013 at 4:21 PM

What if it’s a SAO? Or, if it’s a DA, perhaps she prefers to cock it, first??

;-)

Shepherd Lover on January 15, 2013 at 4:52 PM

From the looks of the slide, it is most likely a Glock. If so, U-Bob is correct – she would get a surprise.

climbnjump on January 15, 2013 at 5:28 PM

My view is that if gun crime is so pervasive that guns need to be taken away, then I demand right to protect me and mine until all the illegal gums held by criminals need to be taken away first.

Which, naturally will reduce gun crime and neutralize any further reason to want to take them from the law-abiding.

Liam on January 10, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Here’s a radical idea – go after the criminals first instead of punishing the innocent!

Galt2009 on January 15, 2013 at 5:35 PM

metrygirl on January 15, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Because no one challenges him, or any of the leftards. One can’t compare the size of the two land’s populations, nor the mix. It would not be PC to mention the latter. Free speech is also dead.

Schadenfreude on January 15, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Can’t wait for you to address this!

Schadenfreude on January 15, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Never mind. I found it. Turns out that metrygirl was snarking. No matter, thanks for posting all those facts.

They keep comparing the lands, in the abstract and fools fall for it, on radio/TV, and in general.

Schadenfreude on January 15, 2013 at 5:40 PM

metrygirl on January 15, 2013 at 5:26 PM

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Thank you. That’s what I was hoping you meant … : )

listens2glenn on January 15, 2013 at 5:45 PM

UltimateBob on January 15, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Are Canadians technically Limeys? For the record, Steyn is from Toronto, but that’s okay by because he, Varney and RWM are three of the best.

Mr. Grump on January 15, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Maybe this puffy-faced Brit Nancy-Boy would like to express his American constitutional public-policy preferences in front of an audience of NRA members?

Surely such a bright lad could make a persuasive presentation among skeptics?

Jaibones on January 15, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Me: @piersmorgan stands on graves of SH. @piersmorgan: How dare you! Now come here and let me club you with victims of SH!

Bingo.

ddrintn on January 15, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Are Canadians technically Limeys? For the record, Steyn is from Toronto, but that’s okay by because he, Varney and RWM are three of the best.

Mr. Grump on January 15, 2013 at 5:48 PM

And there’s Daniel Hannan and James Delingpole. I don’t have anything against the British. Heck, if it weren’t for Britain none of us would be here anyway.

ddrintn on January 15, 2013 at 6:02 PM

I don’t have anything against the British. Heck, if it weren’t for Britain none of us would be here anyway.

ddrintn on January 15, 2013 at 6:02 PM

This is exactly what I always tell my British friends. THANK YOU for having colonized the US. I mean that in all seriousness. European colonialism-guilt has to go if our civilization is to survive.

WhatSlushfund on January 15, 2013 at 6:14 PM

The debate will include gun crime victims, yes @benshapiro – do you have a problem looking them in the eye? Like I said, grow a pair.

— Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) January 15, 2013

.@piersmorgan Tell you what, Piers. I get to bring Holocaust victims (you don’t believe governments can go tyrannical). “Balanced,” my ass.

— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) January 15, 2013

Very mature journalists, 2013-style.

KS Rex on January 15, 2013 at 6:15 PM

I thought my snark was obvious, sorry. Aside from the current trend of misusing “literally” just to add emphasis, I can’t believe someone can make such absurd statements and not get laughed off the stage. Are we really to believe there are no guns at all in the UK? How can you even have 35-40 gun deaths a year when there are literally no guns. (and yes, I know he just made up the number of gun deaths as 35-40). My mind is blown that someone with an international audience, who calls himself a journalist, can make such absurd statements and not be called on it.

metrygirl on January 15, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Sorry for the misunderstanding. Unfortunately, I’ve read too many posts from people that ACTUALLY mean exactly what you snarkily said and fly off because they believe what they’ve been told.

As for Piers, IT IS CNN. The network that covered up Saddam’s torture and rape rooms.

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 6:16 PM

obama and his evil minions and party are baby killers…hey barrack, nothing is hidden from God and you will face Him one day for your dark heart and evil ways…God does not take kindly to those that shed innocent blood………

crosshugger on January 15, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Piers Morgan: Yes, I’m standing on graves of dead children — deal with it
http://twitchy.com/2013/01/15/piers-morgan-yes-im-standing-on-graves-of-dead-children-deal-with-it/

I’m being accused of ‘standing on the graves of dead Sandy Hook children’ – if that’s what it takes to get action, so be it. #GunControlNow

Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) January 15, 2013

Last week, “Bullies” author Ben Shapiro accused Piers “Musket” Morgan of standing on the graves of Sandy Hook victims in order to push a gun control agenda. Morgan was shocked — shocked! — that Shapiro would say such a thing. Today, though, Musket finally surrendered to the truth, admitting to the world what we’ve known all along.

Southern by choice22 on January 15, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Barry is ‘for the children’?

Would that include the ones born live during an abortion and then left to die in a closet?

Those ‘children’?

GarandFan on January 15, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Ben Shapiro should conduct training classes for republican politicians about not getting bamboozled by the media.

darlus on January 15, 2013 at 6:36 PM

I might actually give up my gun in exchange for Piers being deported!

redware on January 15, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Hey, Allah:

The White House is also planning to stack the audience tomorrow with kids for Obama’s big gun-control announcement to remind America that he cares about children and gun-rights supporters don’t. While they’re there, President Caresalot should let them know how much more each of them will owe four years from now after Democrats get done blocking every last proposal for significant spending cuts.

From earlier today:

novaculus ‏@novaculus

Every one of those kids Obama will exploit tomorrow to attack the 2nd Am is already burdened with over $52,000 in national debt. #FUBO

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novaculus on January 15, 2013 at 6:41 PM

As for Piers, IT IS CNN. The network that covered up Saddam’s torture and rape rooms.

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 6:16 PM

And much earlier than that, CNN falsely accused the US of dropping nerve gas on civilians in Laos.

And after Saddam, CNN’s CEO had to resign in disgrace after falsely accusing US troops of “murdering Iraqi journalists.”

And after that, CNN’s Anderson Cooper happily showed, in prime time, video that America’s enemies gave to his “network”. Said videos showed the snipers’-eye view of American soldiers, just before the sniper pulled the trigger.

And yet many on the Left gave CNN passes for all of those atrocities. And they still do.

Del Dolemonte on January 15, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Obama should be ashamed of exploiting innocent children to advance his political agenda-becoming a dictator that is.

redware on January 15, 2013 at 6:42 PM

His ratings are strong? Only when compared to the rest of CNN. Even after all this, he’s still stuck in third place.

Jim Treacher on January 15, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Journal News Repudiated: New N.Y. Law Prohibits Disclosing Gun Owners’ Names

Cuomo signed it into law after it was passed overwhelmingly by the state Assembly, which is controlled by Democrats.

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 7:22 PM

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 7:22 PM

Putnam County Clerk Dennis Sant and Putnam County are now off the hook for refusing to release permitees info to the Journal-News. The Journal-News’ liability exposure remains for the consequences of what it did do. I can’t imagine the plaintiffs’ bar is going to let them get away without a proper bleeding.

novaculus on January 15, 2013 at 7:30 PM

That was painfully unfunny to watch. The only funny thing was to realize that Piers Morgan came on this show to make one point: that he is not an ass. And by the end of the show, he looked like even more of an ass.

tom on January 15, 2013 at 7:51 PM

Kids used as props for Obama’s unconstitutional gun grab….amazing..really amazing..Obama is the biggest disgrace this country has ever produced

sadsushi on January 15, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Britain “literally” has no guns? None? Not even law enforcement? No guns and 35-40 deaths a year? Inconceivable!

metrygirl on January 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM

The kinder, gentler UK, where you’re far more likely to be soaked in gasoline and lit on fire than shot. Who wouldn’t prefer that?

tom on January 15, 2013 at 8:05 PM

..Purse Morgan needs to be dropped of in Benghazi dressed as Moammar Gadhafi… minus the pants..with a Please Sodomize Me sign!

KOOLAID2 on January 15, 2013 at 8:12 PM

Piers Morgan is just another Brit, a liberal this time instead of a Loyalist. He’s a criminal over there, too, one not wanted by his own countrymen.

What was it we did the last time…?

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 8:14 PM

metrygirl on January 15, 2013 at 5:26 PM

.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. Unfortunately, I’ve read too many posts from people that ACTUALLY mean exactly what you snarkily said and fly off because they believe what they’ve been told.

As for Piers, IT IS CNN. The network that covered up Saddam’s torture and rape rooms.

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 6:16 PM

.
WHAT “torture and rape rooms?”

I didn’t hear about it on CNN, so I think you’re making it all up.

listens2glenn on January 15, 2013 at 8:23 PM

blink on January 15, 2013 at 8:26 PM

The only guns Morgan and other rich liberals favor are those carried by the hired security thugs that protect them.

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 8:31 PM

I don’t have anything against the British. Heck, if it weren’t for Britain none of us would be here anyway.

ddrintn on January 15, 2013 at 6:02 PM

This is exactly what I always tell my British friends. THANK YOU for having colonized the US. I mean that in all seriousness. European colonialism-guilt has to go if our civilization is to survive.

WhatSlushfund on January 15, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Colonialism has it’s advantages…and it’s disadvantages like anything else. Like most colonial empires Britain overplayed their hand through the same thing that always fells tyrants…They grew greedy and hypocritically justified their actions through a delusional sense of superiority.

My ancestors were Ulster Scots who fled persecution by both the British Government and the Church of Scotland and settled in frontier Virginia in 1739…the Irish ancestors followed about 100 years later escaping genocide during the potato famine.

Both of these ancestor traits of Scots & Irish tend to balk at thanking the British for much of anything…As a Texan, some of the family settled here in 1839, I don’t thank Mexico for Santa Anna either…but that’s just me.

workingclass artist on January 15, 2013 at 9:23 PM

My ancestors were Ulster Scots who fled persecution by both the British Government and the Church of Scotland and settled in frontier Virginia in 1739….

workingclass artist on January 15, 2013 at 9:23 PM

So did mine, although mine came a bit later in the 18th century. And (for better or worse), the “typical” American attitudes toward guns, the government and authority in general come from these very people. I don’t like James Webb’s “mythologizing” approach, but the Ulster Scot influence on the US to this very day is something that has never really been sufficiently explored. The Puritan influence has been vastly overrated, probably because of the Ivy League.

ddrintn on January 15, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Not true. Ben Shapiro asked Morgan if he was in favor of banning all handguns. When Morgan said “no” Shapiro asked him why he didn’t care about children and why the lives of young people in Chicago weren’t as important as the children in Connecticut.

blink on January 15, 2013 at 9:31 PM

You got me there. :-)

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Me: @piersmorgan stands on graves of SH. @piersmorgan: How dare you! Now come here and let me club you with victims of SH!

ROFL. M. A. O.

Brilliant.

Midas on January 15, 2013 at 10:08 PM

My ancestors were Ulster Scots who fled persecution by both the British Government and the Church of Scotland and settled in frontier Virginia in 1739….

workingclass artist on January 15, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Mine were two brothers who were ‘impressed’ into service with the British navy right as the war started. Plucked right off the street and put on a ship headed for the colonies.

Once they got here, they left the ship, slipped away, and joined the colonists (apparently, didn’t take too well to being kidnapped), then stayed here after the war and settled down.

Midas on January 15, 2013 at 10:14 PM

What if it’s a SAO? Or, if it’s a DA, perhaps she prefers to cock it, first??

;-)

Shepherd Lover on January 15, 2013 at 4:52 PM

An SAO pistol is only cocked for the first shot.

It’s a Glock. No hammer. Striker-fired.

And, if she doesn’t move that thumb – she will the next time. :)

Solaratov on January 15, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Not true. Ben Shapiro asked Morgan if he was in favor of banning all handguns. When Morgan said “no” Shapiro asked him why he didn’t care about children and why the lives of young people in Chicago weren’t as important as the children in Connecticut.

blink on January 15, 2013 at 9:31 PM

You’ll forgive us if we don’t pay much heed to a single statement like that, which is, in the context of everything he has said on the topic, quite clearly untrue. Beyond the context of his gun-control crusade, Morgan is patently and unquestionably an unconscionable liar, a fraudster, and a general sh1t of a human being, so again, forgive us if we don’t offer him as much leeway as you seem to want to, m’kay?

Additionally , as an aside but also as an object lesson, Obama said we could keep our doctors, that healthcare costs would go down, that raising the debt limit was irresponsible, that he only wanted to raise taxes on ‘millionaires and billionaires’, and oh, roughly several thousand other documented lies. so again, forgive us when one of your heroes *says* something that is refuted by everything else he says and does, and we choose to remain skeptical. Or don’t forgive us – don’t much care, but at least know that you come off like a blithering idiot at best when you stick up for these a$$hats.

Midas on January 15, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Ben did well against Morgan. But Morgan is a pompous ass, and Ben is a dogmatic ideologue obsessed with ‘the left’.
So not the best match for a listenable discussion.

verbaluce on January 15, 2013 at 10:35 PM

This is exactly what I always tell my British friends. THANK YOU for having colonized the US. I mean that in all seriousness. European colonialism-guilt has to go if our civilization is to survive.

WhatSlushfund on January 15, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Colonialism has it’s advantages…and it’s disadvantages like anything else. Like most colonial empires Britain overplayed their hand through the same thing that always fells tyrants…They grew greedy and hypocritically justified their actions through a delusional sense of superiority.

My ancestors were Ulster Scots who fled persecution by both the British Government and the Church of Scotland and settled in frontier Virginia in 1739…the Irish ancestors followed about 100 years later escaping genocide during the potato famine.
Both of these ancestor traits of Scots & Irish tend to balk at thanking the British for much of anything…As a Texan, some of the family settled here in 1839, I don’t thank Mexico for Santa Anna either…but that’s just me.

workingclass artist on January 15, 2013 at 9:23 PM

My position is that when it comes to Western Civilization and the Judeo-Christian tradition (as opposed to Islam), at least in our current times, there can be no ‘overplaying of the hand.’ We are never going to win this war unless we recover a sense what it is that we are fighting for. We have to really up our colonization game. We have to be full-on about this. (Realistically, however. The Iraq/Afghanistan ‘Islam-is-a-religion-of-peace-and-all-we-have-to-do-is-implant-Democracy’ scheme that moron GWB came up with is a major fail.)

The fact is that Western Civilization is superior to all others, and I thank the English (as misguided as they are now — demonstrated by dribbling, corrupt homo Piers Morgan) for being at one time proactive and unapologetic about bringing Western Civilization to the fore. If US Repubs had any nads, they’d take back the government and start a renewed colonization push on behalf of Western Civ.

That being said, not every Western idea is a good one. It’s important to remind ourselves that Communism is a Western idea. Or, more precisely, a Western brain-fart. Marx was a Westerner. And a completely insincere one at that. He robbed nearly all of his crappola from Hegel. His writing should never have been taken seriously to begin with. But most of today’s lib-tards have probably never even read Marx, much less Hegel. This is the level of stupidity/fascism that we are up against.

As for the Scots; I understand that there is historical beef between the Scottish and the English. But I would contend that, at this is a time, we all need to put aside our intra-Civilizational grievances, and instead keep our eyes on the big picture.

WhatSlushfund on January 15, 2013 at 11:04 PM

As for the Scots; I understand that there is historical beef between the Scottish and the English. But I would contend that, at this is a time, we all need to put aside our intra-Civilizational grievances, and instead keep our eyes on the big picture.

WhatSlushfund on January 15, 2013 at 11:04 PM

exactly!

thuja on January 15, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Ben did well against Morgan. But Morgan is a pompous ass, and Ben is a dogmatic ideologue obsessed with ‘the left’ sane person.
So not the best match for a listenable discussion.

verbaluce on January 15, 2013 at 10:35 PM

FIFY.

Myron Falwell on January 15, 2013 at 11:52 PM

My ancestors were Ulster Scots who fled persecution by both the British Government and the Church of Scotland and settled in frontier Virginia in 1739….

workingclass artist on January 15, 2013 at 9:23 PM

So did mine, although mine came a bit later in the 18th century. And (for better or worse), the “typical” American attitudes toward guns, the government and authority in general come from these very people. I don’t like James Webb’s “mythologizing” approach, but the Ulster Scot influence on the US to this very day is something that has never really been sufficiently explored. The Puritan influence has been vastly overrated, probably because of the Ivy League.

ddrintn on January 15, 2013 at 9:52 PM

There’s been some very good research on the Ulster Scots in America…particularly in Virginia,the Carolinas and the push westward.

My immigrant ancestor fought as a virginia frontier militiaman in the French Indian Wars…his son fought in the revolution and tried to re-enlist at the age of 68 to fight in the War of 1812.

workingclass artist on January 16, 2013 at 12:20 AM

As for the Scots; I understand that there is historical beef between the Scottish a

nd the English. But I would contend that, at this is a time, we all need to put aside our intra-Civilizational grievances, and instead keep our eyes on the big picture.

WhatSlushfund on January 15, 2013 at 11:04 PM

The Scots have the opportunity to vote for sovereign independence from Britain…and I hope they vote for it.

workingclass artist on January 16, 2013 at 12:22 AM

Morgan is going to whip out the MediaMatters anti-Ben Shapiro file.

I am very good at calling these things.

OxyCon on January 16, 2013 at 12:55 AM

OK, raise your hand if you are one of CNN’s remaining 5 viewers.

CorporatePiggy on January 16, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Shapiro: “The 2nd Amendment clearly states that the citizen’s right to bear arms shall not be infringed….What about that don’t you understand?

Morgan: “Mr. Shapiro, you are mistaken. That Amendment in your little book was a typo. It really was to be stated that the citizen’s right to arm bears shall not be infringed. They were on the endangered species list at that time and needed the protection. Yeah, that’s it. So get off your wingnut talking points.

NOMOBO on January 16, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Little Benny Shapiro is an embarrassment.
I find it very hard to believe that Andrew Breitbart would choose him to represent him and his excellent work. Shapiro is an ignorant, wimpy Beta male who doesn’t know squat.
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on January 16, 2013 at 12:35 PM

I’ve asked several times now, but nobody has been able to come up with a satisfactory answer: why are we paying so much attention to somebody who has the smallest audience in his category? Are we not just playing into Piers’ hands and essentially doing his publicity work for him?

I think it would be better to ignore him. Or just point and laugh, at most.

JamesJr on January 16, 2013 at 1:07 PM

This is exactly what I always tell my British friends. THANK YOU for having colonized the US. I mean that in all seriousness. European colonialism-guilt has to go if our civilization is to survive.

WhatSlushfund on January 15, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Colonialism has it’s advantages…and it’s disadvantages like anything else. Like most colonial empires Britain overplayed their hand through the same thing that always fells tyrants…They grew greedy and hypocritically justified their actions through a delusional sense of superiority.

My ancestors were Ulster Scots who fled persecution by both the British Government and the Church of Scotland and settled in frontier Virginia in 1739…the Irish ancestors followed about 100 years later escaping genocide during the potato famine.
Both of these ancestor traits of Scots & Irish tend to balk at thanking the British for much of anything…As a Texan, some of the family settled here in 1839, I don’t thank Mexico for Santa Anna either…but that’s just me.

workingclass artist on January 15, 2013 at 9:23 PM

My position is that when it comes to Western Civilization and the Judeo-Christian tradition (as opposed to Islam), at least in our current times, there can be no ‘overplaying of the hand.’ We are never going to win this war unless we recover a sense what it is that we are fighting for. We have to really up our colonization game. We have to be full-on about this. (Realistically, however. The Iraq/Afghanistan ‘Islam-is-a-religion-of-peace-and-all-we-have-to-do-is-implant-Democracy’ scheme that moron GWB came up with is a major fail.)

The fact is that Western Civilization is superior to all others, and I thank the English (as misguided as they are now — demonstrated by dribbling, corrupt homo Piers Morgan) for being at one time proactive and unapologetic about bringing Western Civilization to the fore. If US Repubs had any nads, they’d take back the government and start a renewed colonization push on behalf of Western Civ.

That being said, not every Western idea is a good one. It’s important to remind ourselves that Communism is a Western idea. Or, more precisely, a Western brain-fart. Marx was a Westerner. And a completely insincere one at that. He robbed nearly all of his crappola from Hegel. His writing should never have been taken seriously to begin with. But most of today’s lib-tards have probably never even read Marx, much less Hegel. This is the level of stupidity/fascism that we are up against.

As for the Scots; I understand that there is historical beef between the Scottish and the English. But I would contend that, at this is a time, we all need to put aside our intra-Civilizational grievances, and instead keep our eyes on the big picture.

WhatSlushfund on January 15, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Whew! Interesting but I think I’m sorry I mentioned that Steyn is really from Canada!

Mr. Grump on January 16, 2013 at 5:38 PM

The fact is that Western Civilization is superior to all others, and I thank the English (as misguided as they are now — demonstrated by dribbling, corrupt homo Piers Morgan) for being at one time proactive and unapologetic about bringing Western Civilization to the fore. If US Repubs had any nads, they’d take back the government and start a renewed colonization push on behalf of Western Civ.

WhatSlushfund on January 15, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Preach it!

Isn’t it just interesting that the first time women in India weren’t being thrown on pyres was when the British showed up, and that the last times many remote places were anything but dens of illiterate barbarians was when the Union Jack still flew over them?

It’s no coincidence that the greatest civilized empires in history were founded on Western thought and some form of democracy. It’s also no coincidence that they made a habit of pounding barbarians into submission and not giving a copper coin for their (sometimes outright satanic) customs or how they felt about their betters taking over the land they’d done nothing but squat on and squabble over.

One thing that quietly terrifies me is the popular notion among white peoples that “the natural order” is us all sitting around discussing literature or the arts, etc. in perfect peace on the porch, while perhaps the domesticated very-distant descendant of a barbarian serves us tea.

Not only is this stupidly simplistic, it’s the exact opposite of reality itself. “The natural order” is for things to move from MORE ordered to LESS ordered unless external energy is applied.

If we render ourselves unwilling or unable to keep the barbarians in check, at some point we will look out the window to see them swarming toward the house. Whereupon they will drink our tea, throw our fine china around like Frisbees, take whatever they please (especially civilized females) and tear us to pieces after we’ve shot a few of them in desperate self-defense.

MelonCollie on January 16, 2013 at 7:55 PM

I was in the UK last month and I asked my hosts about Piers. They don’t want him there either.

diogenes on January 16, 2013 at 8:18 PM

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