New York Gov. Cuomo signs major gun-control package into law

posted at 10:11 pm on January 15, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

President Obama is slated to announce his decisions on gun-control proposals for the nation tomorrow, but New York Gov. Andrew “confiscation could be an option” Cuomo has already charged forward with new laws for his state:

New York on Tuesday became the first state to approve a comprehensive set of gun control laws in response to last month’s mass shooting at a Connecticut elementary school, amid concerns among gun owners that the spate of changes to local and state gun laws could make them targets of overzealous politicians and prosecutors.

The New York Assembly gave final approval to the bill late Tuesday afternoon — Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed it within minutes.

New York’s new laws will expand the state’s ban on assault weapons and include new measures to keep guns away from mentally disturbed individuals. Under the new law, ammunition magazines would also be restricted to seven bullets, from the current 10 — owners caught with eight or more bullets in a magazine could face a misdemeanor charge. The law also prohibits Internet sales of assault weapons and in another provision, a therapist who thinks a mental health patient is making a credible threat to use a gun illegally would be required to report the incident to the state.

Well, the New York legislature passed the measures and sent them on to Cuomo, so they at least went through the full-court channels rather than executive action, hem hem, but the whole thing does seem rather inappropriately hasty:

Governor Andrew Cuomo is trying to lead the nation in gun control, but he’s picked a peculiar way of doing it. Mr. Cuomo negotiated in secret with a few other powerful politicians on a dog’s breakfast of legislation that got no public discussion at all and was passed by state senators who had not even read it—because they were not given a chance to do so.

The resulting bill is hard to judge on the merits. It’s a snarl of good ideas, strange ideas and ideas that seem quite bad. While some items should figure into federal gun control legislation, Washington should not take New York as an example of how to go about this difficult business.

As New York state Senator Greg Ball said on the floor last night, this doesn’t seem to have quite as much to do with well-thought out, legitimate efforts to make everyone safer as it does with a 2016 Democratic contender’s strategic feel-good attempt to take a big national lead on the progressive cause du jour — high-capacity magazine bans are not effective at preventing tragedy, and they make self-defense all the harder. Powerful, via RightScoop:


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Gun Grabber Wednesday. Coming soon.

KCB on January 15, 2013 at 10:12 PM

I’d be interested in any local reports. I think NY already had some of the most restrictive gun control laws.

22044 on January 15, 2013 at 10:14 PM

That speech he gave about “deer hunting” was worse than the Howard Scream.

Expect to hear it non stop if he decides to run in 2016.

Toast.

can_con on January 15, 2013 at 10:14 PM

At last, gun crime is a thing of the past in New York.

Right?

catmman on January 15, 2013 at 10:16 PM

How long will it take the NRA to file suit against it as unconstitutional?

Mohonri on January 15, 2013 at 10:17 PM

…that guys eyes (Cuomo) look JUST LIKE the eyes of the Colorado shooter…the eyes of the Arizona shooter and the eyes of the Connecticut shooter!

KOOLAID2 on January 15, 2013 at 10:20 PM

At other any walls in NY?

tom daschle concerned on January 15, 2013 at 10:20 PM

I hate the keyboard and autocorrect on this stupid phone.

Are there any walls in NY?

tom daschle concerned on January 15, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Great Ball, you are a good man…get out of New York and move somewhere where you could run and win a seat in the US Congress..oh wait..don’t do that..you could very well be corrupted

sadsushi on January 15, 2013 at 10:22 PM

lol Greg Ball i mean

sadsushi on January 15, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Oh he is going to run and if he wins it means 4 more years of the same insanity!

Tilly on January 15, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Why isn’t NY in the flames of revolution yet?

Midas on January 15, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Average violent criminal: “Aw sh*t! Guess I`ll go home and sulk!”

/s

ThePrez on January 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM

… and let the lawsuits begin. Hopefully Remington and Kimber use this as a reason to leave New York.

AZfederalist on January 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Eff you, Cuomo,
Love TEXAS!

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Much ado about nothing. It does no more than give criminals something else to ignore. when Cuomo, Bloomberg, and other liberals do something substantive about the crime in Harlem and South Bronx, I might say something in their favor.

Pffft!

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Midas on January 15, 2013 at 10:22 PM

NYC, where the money and power is. I wish I lived in another state. :(

ThePrez on January 15, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Why isn’t NY in the flames of revolution yet?

Midas on January 15, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Because it’s New York.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Why isn’t NY in the flames of revolution yet?

Midas on January 15, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Not enough Conservatives here. And no one laments that more than me, I promise.

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Sad day for New Yorkers. Protect yourselves.

Bmore on January 15, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Cuomo is poison…politicians that pound the podium and shout their propaganda are scary.

d1carter on January 15, 2013 at 10:25 PM

This is what tyranny looks like. It’s why we have a 2nd Amendment.

Ken James on January 15, 2013 at 10:25 PM

I would advise any conservative NY state resident who is thinking of applying for political asylum in Texas to get a move on. The refugee camps down here are filling up fast with out of state transplants.

TxAnn56 on January 15, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Texas, LA, OK would welcome you.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Are there any walls in NY?

tom daschle concerned on January 15, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Yes. The ones liberal that rich snobbish liberals keep around their mansions and their private communities so they never have to risk mixing with us common folk.

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:26 PM

…my wife says Cuomo looks so scary…the result from having sex with a Kennedy!

KOOLAID2 on January 15, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Luckily I live in a gun free state..
That is..

You are free to carry as long as you are responsible…

What does this say about NY?

Electrongod on January 15, 2013 at 10:26 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Great minds think alike.

TxAnn56 on January 15, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Texas, LA, OK would welcome you.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Thanks, Lady!

I would love being called a Texan.

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:27 PM

TxAnn56 on January 15, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Well, we’ve been paroled-so there’s a few more openings now. *wink*

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Wil also make sure that New York based businesses are at the bottom of my vendor list. Only if I can’t get something from somewhere else.

AZfederalist on January 15, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Fundamentally Transforming America

Seven Percent Solution on January 15, 2013 at 10:27 PM

“Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of the citizens to keep and bear arms. The right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government and one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible.” – Hubert H. Humphrey

VorDaj on January 15, 2013 at 10:27 PM

What does this say about NY?

Electrongod on January 15, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Two words: It sucks.

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Great minds think alike.

TxAnn56 on January 15, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Of course…

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 10:28 PM

TxAnn56 on January 15, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Don’t for gawds sake let the liberals in!!

They will poison the well!!

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 10:28 PM

At last, gun crime is a thing of the past in New York.

Right?

catmman on January 15, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Hollywood will have to shoot their gun violence movies in another city

Electrongod on January 15, 2013 at 10:28 PM

One other thing. A sad day for the Nation as well.

Bmore on January 15, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Better headline: “Ugly, Bellowing Governor Who Is Ugly Signs Gun Control Legislation While Scowling With His Ugly Face.”

Ace taught me well.

rdbrewer on January 15, 2013 at 10:29 PM

I’m so thankful to be a Southerner. We’re fighting the good fight down here, but it seems to become more difficult every day. I’m trying to pay no attention to states that are north of the Mason-Dixon line.

MustLoveBlogs on January 15, 2013 at 10:29 PM

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government” – Thomas Jefferson

VorDaj on January 15, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Bmore on January 15, 2013 at 10:28 PM

It’s all down hill from here for democratic held states…

Hope not for us!!

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Greg Ball is a hottie.

I won’t be surprised to see someone try this here as well.

gophergirl on January 15, 2013 at 10:30 PM

“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed – unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.” – James Madison, The Federalist Papers

VorDaj on January 15, 2013 at 10:30 PM

One other thing. A sad day for the Nation as well.

Bmore on January 15, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Not really. This is expected, and NY isn’t the cutting edge of America it used to be. Like CA, NY is a testing lab of what the rest of the country should NOT do.

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:31 PM

“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subjects to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.” – Adolph Hitler

VorDaj on January 15, 2013 at 10:31 PM

“Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of the citizens to keep and bear arms. This is not to say that firearms should not be carefully used and that definite safety rules of precaution should not be taught and enforced. But the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government and one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible.”Hubert H. Humphrey

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Obviously CowMo does not stand with Jefferson, Madison and Humphrey. He stands with Adolf Hitler.

VorDaj on January 15, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Greg Ball is a hottie.

gophergirl on January 15, 2013 at 10:30 PM

Oh yeah!

TxAnn56 on January 15, 2013 at 10:34 PM

“If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves.”

Who said that? Anyone?

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 10:34 PM

Obviously CowMo does not stand with Jefferson, Madison and Humphrey. He stands with Adolf Hitler.

VorDaj on January 15, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Cuomo is proof that men don’t always become better than their fathers.

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:34 PM

Meanwhile………………….

Read the transcript of our live Q&A on gun control with District Attorney William Fitzpatrick
on January 14, 2013 at 1:15 PM
******************************

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2013/01/district_attorney_william_fitz_3.html#incart_flyout_news

canopfor on January 15, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Cuomo is proof that men don’t always become better than their fathers.

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:34 PM

On the other hand, Barack Obama is the Son of a Thousand Fathers, all Bastards like him.

VorDaj on January 15, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Aw shucks, I wanted to be the first one to sign stifling gun control laws to assure my Presidency in 2016 — Martin O’Malley, Gov. of MD

Christian Conservative on January 15, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Don’t for gawds sake let the liberals in!!

They will poison the well!!

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Unfortunately, I’ve seen more out of state plates from blue states than I’ve seen in my entire life here. VT, NY, CT, WA, etc. I’ve seen a couple of CA plates with Obama stickers. That’s the trouble with liberals, they leave their own state because it’s so screwed up, only to infect red states once they get here.

TxAnn56 on January 15, 2013 at 10:37 PM

“confiscation could be an option”

…can’t believe how the NRA is scaring people with this “there going to take your guns” nonsense……
……………….oh wait.

Baxter Greene on January 15, 2013 at 10:37 PM

On the other hand, Barack Obama is the Son of a Thousand Fathers, all Bastards like him.

VorDaj on January 15, 2013 at 10:35 PM

So was Freddy Kruger. And they were all insane. Ugh!

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:37 PM

By ABC News
Jan 15, 2013 7:30pm
New York Law Targets Mentally Ill’s Access to Guns
**************************************************

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/01/new-york-law-targets-mentally-ills-access-to-guns/

canopfor on January 15, 2013 at 10:38 PM

TxAnn56 on January 15, 2013 at 10:37 PM

I live in a college town-so seeing out-of-state plates is no biggie. We’re near enough to NM to have commuters from over yonder, and Spawn still has his IL plates on because he’s on his dad’s auto insurance. *TX requires more coverage than IL*

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Damn, what am I gonna do with all my
I heart NY T’s?

bazil9 on January 15, 2013 at 10:40 PM

TxAnn56 on January 15, 2013 at 10:37 PM

Ditto here in Ok also…

:-(

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 10:41 PM

So was Freddy Kruger. And they were all insane. Ugh!

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:37 PM

Such individuals who lack ulterior motive have traditionally been referred to in layman’s terms simply as a variation of a pyromaniac. Most such maniacs lack conscious motivation although they are fully aware of the acts they are failing to stop or they themselves are committing. Typically they will feel intense pleasure, gratification, or relief when causing destruction or when witnessing or participating in the aftermath. Motivation is also classified as pathological and non-pathological. Some research suggests that feeling such joy at horrific situation is pathological. Other research suggests that some motivation for this comes from rational thought. Taking joy in horrific situations for envisioned gains in political power and/or the concealment of the imposition of devious plans are examples of supposed rational decision making.

I must say in conclusion that history has repeatedly and harshly proven that elevating such a profoundly disturbed man to the highest office in any country is never a good idea. Unfortunately it is a lesson that must be learned first hand in every nation and some of those nations survive and some do not

Sigmund on January 15, 2013 at 10:41 PM

Syracuse-area gun expert: New York’s proposal is “window dressing” that arbitrarily bans certain weapons
Jan 14 2013-4:46PM
********************

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2013/01/syracuse-area_gun_expert_new_y.html

https://twitter.com/armcomm

canopfor on January 15, 2013 at 10:41 PM

This ‘new’ NY law is a bunch of nothing. It’s the same old things liberals here have done before, and none of it has worked. What do they think–that harsh language is going to make criminals listen any better?

Pfffft!

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:41 PM

“If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves.”

Who said that? Anyone?

Joseph Stalin…

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 10:42 PM

New York refugees are welcome here in Indiana.

MikeA on January 15, 2013 at 10:42 PM

TxAnn56 on January 15, 2013 at 10:37 PM

Ditto here in Ok also…

:-(

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 10:41 PM

Join the club..ain’t it grand?
It is “snow bird” season currently-oodles of fun.

bazil9 on January 15, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Sigmund on January 15, 2013 at 10:41 PM

In sum, never send a boy or a liberal to do a man’s job.

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Results for #guncontrol

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23guncontrol

canopfor on January 15, 2013 at 10:43 PM

The shock on Cuomo’s face when a crime is committed in NY with one of these “banned” guns will be screen cap worthy.

gophergirl on January 15, 2013 at 10:43 PM

I’m headin’ back to Chicago(NYC’s twin) in less than 2 weeks. Because I’m flying, I can’t even bring my pepper spray or my stun-gun…both of which are illegal in IL anyway.TX pepper spray is much stronger than the Chi stuff.
Gee, I feel less safe already.///

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 10:45 PM

When do they ban the subways?

JPeterman on January 15, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Syracuse-area gun expert: New York’s proposal is “window dressing” that arbitrarily bans certain weapons
Jan 14 2013-4:46PM
********************

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2013/01/syracuse-area_gun_expert_new_y.html

https://twitter.com/armcomm

canopfor on January 15, 2013 at 10:41 PM

Which makes me think of an old song by Dave Clark Five:

“Catch Us If You Can”

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Damn, what am I gonna do with all my
I heart NY T’s?

bazil9 on January 15, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Target practice.

RickB on January 15, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Listened to the debate on the Assembly floor while at work today – the overwhelming majority of those who supported this gun ban were nearly clueless when it comes to firearms.

When questioned about what residents should do with their grandfathered 10 round magazines now that the limit is 7 rounds, a Dem Assemblyman responded by saying “they’ll just have to plug the 3 extra holes.”

Utterly clueless. But apparently that makes for good tyrants.

dugan on January 15, 2013 at 10:46 PM

When do they ban the subways?

JPeterman on January 15, 2013 at 10:45 PM

I’m waiting for them to ban crime.

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:46 PM

gophergirl on January 15, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Wanna bet the LSM just doesn’t print any stories of gun deaths in NYC to ‘keep up appearances’ that their gun laws work?

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 10:46 PM

People get the government they deserve. I’m laughing at New York.

SAZMD on January 15, 2013 at 10:46 PM

RightWingArt ‏@RightWingArt

IMAGE: Gun free zones are potential slaughter zones http://rightwingart.com/cdb42c6c-8a53-417f-a460-2e62eb3d64a6/artupload.aspx … #nra #secondamendment #tcot
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canopfor on January 15, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Hey gangsters, gang-bangers, thugs and evil criminals in New York who plan on using guns during your crimes: The Governor signed a BILL stating you can’t have or use a gun with a magazine with more than 7 bullets and no “assault rifles” can be used by you guys either.

SO THERE! THAT’S RIGHT!

A BILL was passed!

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW, HUH…… TOUGH GUYS?

Opposite Day on January 15, 2013 at 10:48 PM

You know, the funny thing is these idiots are probably patting themselves on the back tonight thinking about just how caring they are and how sophisticated they are, when in fact, all they have really done is make their state more dangerous for law abiding Americans. All this because they think they are smarter than the Founding Fathers and can spit on the constitution.

kam582 on January 15, 2013 at 10:48 PM

I wonder how many Mil Spec GI 1911′s there are in New York state?

Anyone want to hazard a guess?

Bonus round.

Want to hazard a guess as to how many carry an 8 round mag?

Tenwheeler on January 15, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Wanna bet the LSM just doesn’t print any stories of gun deaths in NYC to ‘keep up appearances’ that their gun laws work?

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 10:46 PM

That’s a suckers bet LOL

Of course they’ll cover it up. Of course Chicago keeps killing people right and left and they don’t blink an eye.

gophergirl on January 15, 2013 at 10:49 PM

So I assume New York will be completely and utterly gun-crime free then? I’m sure that the criminals will totally be law abiding now. For realsies.

mjk on January 15, 2013 at 10:50 PM

gophergirl on January 15, 2013 at 10:49 PM

I bought a new tee today, just for my Chicago trip. It’s from a Lubbock gun shop…and the locals are gonna HATE it. *evil laugh*

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 10:51 PM

It should be illegal to vote on a bill you haven’t read.

p0s3r on January 15, 2013 at 10:51 PM

New York gun control bill

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed into law a sweeping package of gun control measures on Jan. 15, 2013, significantly expanding a ban on assault weapons and making New York the first state to change its laws in response to the mass shooting at a Connecticut elementary school. – New York Times

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/new-york-gun-control-bill
===========================================================

@stevebruskCNN tweeted:
stevebruskCNN
Mayor Bloomberg: New York state new gun law signed today “sets an example for Washington to follow”

5 hours ago from twitter.com by editor

canopfor on January 15, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Of course they’ll cover it up. Of course Chicago keeps killing people right and left and they don’t blink an eye.

gophergirl on January 15, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Yeah, but at least they report it in the Chicago papers.

JPeterman on January 15, 2013 at 10:52 PM

When do they ban the subways?

JPeterman on January 15, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Better yet, WHEN DO THEY BAN BOOBS?

Death By Boobs

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Wanna bet the LSM just doesn’t print any stories of gun deaths in NYC to ‘keep up appearances’ that their gun laws work?

Scrumpy on January 15, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Two people were pushed from subway platforms in front of oncoming trains a week after Sandy Hook, and Bloomberg admonished people to ‘keep their heads’ about it. Or some such.

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Death By Boobs

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Oh God!
rwm..I luv u..but that was a dirty trick.
My eyes are bleeding!

bazil9 on January 15, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:53 PM

I’m going to have to spend some time waiting on ‘El’ platforms when I’m in Chicago. Thanks for the reminder.///

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 10:54 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Keep back from the edge of the platform. Train-pushers are just as dangerous as gun-grabbers.

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Slowly and but surely,the

….Ever Creepeth InCrementalization of Liberalism!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on January 15, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Slowly and but surely,the

….Ever Creepeth InCrementalization of Liberalism!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on January 15, 2013 at 10:56 PM

I don’t fear incrementalism from gun-grabbers. But they better fear me if they kick in the door for my guns.

I don’t fear going down; I have little to lose. But I’m taking at least one of them with me if I have to go.

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Oh God!
rwm..I luv u..but that was a dirty trick.
My eyes are bleeding!

bazil9 on January 15, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Sorry. hehehehe

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Better yet, WHEN DO THEY BAN BOOBS?

Death By Boobs

Resist We Much on January 15, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Resist We Much:Ooooh I was hoping for a picture!:)

canopfor on January 15, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Come on, what did you expect. If New Yorkers can’t be trusted with a salt shaker and a 24 oz drink, you can’t expect the governor to turn them loose with a scary looking assult rifle.

Alabama Infidel on January 15, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Keep back from the edge of the platform. Train-pushers are just as dangerous as gun-grabbers.

Liam on January 15, 2013 at 10:56 PM

I may be a Texas girl now, but I still have my Chicago street smarts. No one’s gonna eff with me.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 15, 2013 at 11:03 PM

MeanWhile….wisdom from da Hill……………

53m The Hill ‏@thehill

Gohmert: Fast and Furious shows gun control should start with the Obama administration http://j.mp/W5ozbe by @PeteKTheHill

canopfor on January 15, 2013 at 11:05 PM

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