$50 billion Sandy relief bill somehow passes House with just 49 Republican votes

posted at 8:16 pm on January 15, 2013 by Allahpundit

I remember some consternation in the media a few weeks ago after Boehner split the original $60 billion relief package into two smaller bills that this meant the GOP was going to gut part of it. Absurd. Did anyone seriously believe Boehner et al. would risk more bad press by stripping out the pork after Chris Christie threw a big tantrum about how evil his own party was for even delaying the initial vote?

I hereby retract my skepticism that the GOP leadership collectively has no balls.

Lawmakers in the House of Representatives approved measures Tuesday to send more than $50 billion in aid to the Northeastern states ravaged by Superstorm Sandy last fall, though some conservatives in the House were pushing for spending cuts that would offset the cost of the recovery package…

One of those voted upon – introduced by Rep. Mick Mulvaney of South Carolina – called for all of the Sandy aid funding to be completely counterbalanced by equivalent spending cuts. Previously, emergency aid packages, including several measures funding relief efforts for Hurricane Katrina that hit the Gulf Coast in 2005, have been passed in Congress without matching spending reductions.

The Mulvaney amendment, however, failed to pass the House Tuesday afternoon.

Seventy-one Republicans voted against Mulvaney’s amendment, which was more than enough to bury it with heavy Democratic support. The final bill passed 241-180, with 179 Republicans — nearly four-fifths of the caucus — voting no. There was a lot of chatter last year before the fiscal-cliff vote that Boehner wouldn’t bring bills to the floor that didn’t have the support of a majority of his own caucus (the so-called “Hastert Rule”). Fast-forward a few weeks and he’s now allowing votes on bills that face supermajority opposition from the GOP. Looks like he’s feeling awfully good about his leverage after being reelected Speaker. Presumably tonight’s vote was his way of signaling to the tea partiers in the caucus that, if push comes to shove, he’ll let Democrats pass a debt-ceiling hike with help from Republican centrists too. There’s not much conservative members could do to punish him for that; he already has the worst job in Washington. The cruelest thing they could do to him is elect him to another term.

Update: Among those 49 yes votes, by the way: Eric Cantor and Kevin McCarthy.


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Actually, you saw my point quite clearly. Having a personal connection to a conservative exemplar doesn’t make you a “better” conservative or make you more qualified to discuss conservative perspectives. I don’t believe somebody has any sort of advantage unless there was some kind of confidence, or they were privy to information that no one else has.

But it’s the Internet, so it’s not like anyone would believe someone even if they made a claim like that.

KingGold on January 15, 2013 at 9:56 PM

I have no idea what in the hell you are talking about.

Are you trying to sell yourself as a conservative? Because from the screeds you’ve been writing tonight, you clearly aren’t one. And I don’t need a lecture from you or a call to Miss Cleo to see that.

Myron Falwell on January 15, 2013 at 10:47 PM

… Oblahblah has Secret Service protection for life.

Well, glad that it’s finite.

socalcon on January 15, 2013 at 10:48 PM

But it’s the Internet, so it’s not like anyone would believe someone even especially if they made a claim like that.

FIFY

socalcon on January 15, 2013 at 10:51 PM

So how is that whole warrentless wiretapping thing going these days, Barky stopped that mess, right, sometime after closing Gitmo and bringing all the troops home from the mideast I believe.

Bishop on January 15, 2013 at 9:35 PM

… Lest we forget about the killing of innocents via drone strikes??

socalcon on January 15, 2013 at 10:54 PM

The last Obama zombie you probably encountered was the Obama Phone Lady on Youtube.

KingGold on January 15, 2013 at 10:36 PM

I lost a longtime friend because she BECAME an Obama Zombie (in addition to a Kucinich devotee). It gets DEEPLY personal with me. I have not spoken one word to her since November 7th, and will not work alongside her at any event from here on out – even if it’s for charity. So that’s that.

Plus I have a co-worker in Elyria (a suburb of Cleveland, Ohio) who, when he went to cast his vote on November 6, encountered an Obamaphone Lady. Who said the EXACT SAME THINGS the Youtube Obamaphone Lady said (even “Mitt Romney sucks cuz he won’t give me an Obamaphone”) along with her four kids in tow. These freaks are real, and they should scare the living daylights out of you.

Myron Falwell on January 15, 2013 at 10:57 PM

And no, I never considered Steve King a conservative. A somewhat reliable social vote but never there on fiscal issues.

DanMan on January 15, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Are you confusing Steve King (R-IA) with Pete King (R-NY)?

bw222 on January 15, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Until conservatives are ready to band together and fight the good fight, nothing will change. We can continue to come to sites like HA and discuss what is going on and how we have all the answers but until we act, nothing will change. Did I mention nothing will change unless we do something? I am ready to get behind a strong, conservative movement. Other than changing things in my life, which I have already done and will continue to do, how do we go about creating and executing a plan to take our country back?

At the risk of getting piled on, I will say we either need Sarah Palin or someone like her who can withstand the personal attacks to unite the conservatives. Like it or not every movement needs a leader. Without one, we continue to move around aimlessly. I am ready to move forward with purpose and conviction. I just don’t get the feeling that most conservatives have been pushed out of their passive malaise just yet. Maybe the guns grab will do it. If not, we are finished as a country and it is every man for himself.

texasmagnolia on January 15, 2013 at 11:00 PM

The Spelunker of the House, a charter member of the status quo, caved? Say it ain’t so…

Gohawgs on January 15, 2013 at 11:03 PM

I wonder if the opposition wasn’t ideologically grounded, but just to convince Tea Party supporters they opposed the bill. If they were really against the bill, they could have put some pressure on Boehner.

amazingmets on January 15, 2013 at 11:14 PM

The Spelunker of the House, a charter member of the status quo, caved? Say it ain’t so…

Gohawgs on January 15, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Yup. Call him Speaker BOHICA.

Myron Falwell on January 15, 2013 at 11:15 PM

John Boehner should resign as Speaker of the House effective immediately. This may be the worst debacle I’ve ever seen, in my lifetime. What on earth was he thinking, doing what he did to this bill.

If we had any leadership in the House, they would have taken the Senate bill, stripped out what wasn’t for the areas hit by Sandy, passed it and gone home for the holidays, daring the Senate to stay away and not deal with it. Then they would have sent the sequestation bill back to the Senate and forced them to deal with that, or left it on the table until they returned. Instead, the stupid party makes a big show out of shelving the bill and passes, what was basically sent to them, 2 weeks later. Stupid!!!!! How many possible Republican votes did they sacrifice in New York and New Jersey? I can’t even begin to calculate how long it’s going to be before a Republican wins in those states.

Now, we have 2 issues that could be dealt with and had potentials for a win, immigration and the debt ceiling, but not with Boehner and Cantor in charge. They need to embrace Rubios plan, put it into legislation and send it to the Senate. They need to pass a budget that deals with the debt ceiling and tell Obama and the Senate they will do nothing futher without a budget. Both of those are winners for them, something positive they can talk about, but my guess is the stupid party will be a day late and a dollar short on both and for that, I blame Boehner.

bflat879 on January 15, 2013 at 11:21 PM

And no, I never considered Steve King a conservative. A somewhat reliable social vote but never there on fiscal issues.

DanMan on January 15, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Are you confusing Steve King (R-IA) with Pete King (R-NY)?

bw222 on January 15, 2013 at 10:59 PM

I think so, cause MY Steve King,( Des Moines, Ia), is fantastic and has fought the Butcher every step of the way….

lovingmyUSA on January 15, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Update: Among those 49 yes votes, by the way: Eric Cantor and Kevin McCarthy.

Like I’ve said numerous times before; the GOP is corrupt to the core. The party that once represented the conservative movement has become the useful idiot doormat of the Obama administration.

From Romney to McConnell to Boehner and the rest of our “leadership” these past few years, it has just been a cascade of utter ineptitude and thinly veiled liberalism disguised as “moderation”.

Time for a 3rd party.

Norwegian on January 15, 2013 at 11:28 PM

bflat879 on January 15, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Speaker BOHICA is the Franklin Pierce to Mitt’s Millard Fillmore.

Myron Falwell on January 15, 2013 at 11:34 PM

Are you confusing Steve King (R-IA) with Pete King (R-NY)?

yep, sure did when Pete came out in full torque the other day it strained my king factor. That said, ‘ol KingGold did leave a mark. If I had to put up with an ocean of libs it would be tough. My sister left for DC so I guess it works both ways.

DanMan on January 15, 2013 at 11:35 PM

The Associated Press ‏@AP

Here’s how officials in NY, NJ and Conn. reacted to House approval of $50.5B in aid for victims of Superstorm: http://apne.ws/109pkWh
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Reaction to $50.5 billion in Superstorm Sandy aid
By The Associated Press
— Jan. 15 10:41 PM EST
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Here’s is how officials in New York, New Jersey and Connecticut reacted to the U.S. House of Representative’s approval of $50.5 billion in emergency aid for victims of Superstorm Sandy:

“The desperately-needed relief in this bill will help families and individuals put their lives back together and assist in rebuilding transportation networks and public infrastructure vital to commerce and our quality of life. Small businesses, schools, health care facilities, and research institutions will have the support to restore vital services in their communities.”

—U.S. Rep. Nita Lowey, D-N.Y.

“For our communities, families and businesses, the passage of Hurricane Sandy aid is much needed and long overdue. After already being made to wait 79 days, folks across the Hudson Valley will not have to wait any longer for this essential help.”

— U.S. Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney, D-N.Y.

“Tonight’s vote to provide … Hurricane Sandy relief was an outstanding victory for the people of New York, New Jersey and Long Island. It is unfortunate that we had to fight so hard to be treated the same as every other state has been treated. But we did fight this bias against the northeast and thank God our residents won.”

—U.S. Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.

“Recovery is about getting our nation’s economy back on track, as well as allowing people to get their lives back in order. This bipartisan compromise should do just that.”

—U.S. Rep. Joseph D. Courtney, D-Conn.

“This funding will never make up for the loss and devastation that was felt by so many throughout Staten Island and the region, but it can help restore some semblance of normality to lives that have been turned upside down.”

—U.S. Rep. Michael G. Grimm, R-N.Y.

“It’s great news for families, communities and small businesses in our region that the House — after weeks of delay — finally passed an emergency relief bill for Superstorm Sandy. Our region extends a helping hand any time another community suffers from a major disaster, and we’re pleased that the House voted to provide this emergency relief for New Jersey and New York.”

—U.S. Senators Frank R. Lautenberg, D-N.J., Charles E. Schumer, D-N.Y., Robert Menendez, D-N.J., and Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y.

“House passage of this package means we are one step closer to families returning home and businesses rebuilding so they can once again contribute to our economy. It also means our communities will receive flood protection so a similar storm won’t produce similar destruction. I look forward to swift action in the Senate so we may move towards building a stronger New Jersey.”

—U.S. Rep. Frank Pallone, Jr., D-N.J.

“We will fight to ensure that Connecticut families, businesses, and communities receive everything that they need to rebuild and to prevent future destruction, including investing in infrastructure, transmission systems, and flood control projects that will reduce damage and human tragedy after future storms.”

—U.S. Senators Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., and Chris Murphy, D-Conn.

“Months after residents, businesses and communities in New Jersey, New York and Connecticut were devastated by Hurricane Sandy, the House has approved the critical federal assistance needed to rebuild. While almost over, the delays South Jersey residents witnessed by Washington are inexcusable and unacceptable. A disaster means a disaster — not an opportunity to change midstream the process by which the government responds.”

—U.S. Rep. Frank A. LoBiondo, R-N.J.

“There is an immediate need to rebuild and restore. In particular, our residents and neighbors need assistance with temporary housing and permanent home restoration. The Jersey Shore needs to be open for business by or near Memorial Day, or else many will suffer economic hardships, including losing jobs or businesses.”

—U.S. Rep. Chris Smith, R-N.J.

“The fact that so many Republican members have voted against this aid package, or worked to delay its passage these many weeks, is embarrassing and is a blot on the House of Representatives. To use this funding as a political pawn in a game over the role of government and budgetary debates is shameful. The first order of business for the federal government is to protect our citizens, and helping them recover from the tragedy of a natural disaster is one of those times.”

—U.S. Rep. Eliot Engel, D-N.Y.

“For tens of thousands of New Jerseyans still struggling to recover from Hurricane Sandy, today’s bill will make a real difference. But make no mistake: the process by which this bill was brought to a vote was needlessly prolonged and painful.”

—U.S. Rep. Rush Holt, D-N.J.

“The tri-state area is an economic engine for the entire country, making our recovery a matter of national self-interest. Businesses will be heartened that funding for recovery and investment in upgraded infrastructure to avoid future damage will be forthcoming from Washington D.C.”
======================

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/reaction-505-billion-superstorm-sandy-aid

canopfor on January 15, 2013 at 11:47 PM

Boehner needs to get really drunk & show up to work with eyes dilated & slurred speech; then maybe he can get removed from the speakership.
Cantor, thinly skinned & out for his own power & greed, of course he voted with the rest of the republicrats for Sandy Pork.

Norwegian: “From Romney to McConnell to Boehner and the rest of our “leadership” these past few years, it has just been a cascade of utter ineptitude and thinly veiled liberalism disguised as “moderation”.

Time for a 3rd party.”

You see things very clearly. Michael Savage has been talking about a 3rd party frequently on his show. There needs to emerge a clear, solidly conservative, constitutionalist leader & right now in politics there isn’t one. For me, I see no need to vote for a republicrat ever again.

You watch, the majority of the republicrats will vote for Amnesty & raising the debt ceiling; everything the King wants without a whimper of protest.

Belle on January 15, 2013 at 11:58 PM

“Tonight’s vote to provide … Hurricane Sandy relief was an outstanding victory for the people of New York, New Jersey and Long Island. It is unfortunate that we had to fight so hard to be treated the same as every other state has been treated. But we did fight this bias against the northeast and thank God our residents won.”

—U.S. Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.

Just out yourself as a Dem and get it over with. You disgust me. Go to hell… or California.

Myron Falwell on January 16, 2013 at 12:21 AM

We can only hope and pray that sometime soon there will be a deadly storm that hits the South and Flyover Country kills a bunch of people and destroys their homes and businesses. And then we can watch the hypocritical Southern Evangelical Politicians en-mass vote for storm relief no matter how much alleged “pork” is in the bill because once again conveniently they will have forgotten they are all about small government.

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 12:40 AM

We can only hope and pray that sometime soon there will be a deadly storm that hits the South and Flyover Country kills a bunch of people and destroys their homes and businesses.

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 12:40 AM

Example 1,654 of “compassion,” when practiced by a Socialist.

Disgusting pig.

Myron Falwell on January 16, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Example 1,654 of “compassion,” when practiced by a Socialist.

Disgusting pig.

Myron Falwell on January 16, 2013 at 12:48 AM

So you are trying to project your socialism on me? Since I am not a socialist.

Logically though, you would think the Southern politicians would have voted for this bill since the sooner the North East gets rebuilt, the sooner it can go back to subsidizing the South.

Southern politicians didn’t want this bill yet have zero problem stealing the hard earned tax dollars that the government takes the North East to redistribute to the South.

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 12:52 AM

So you are trying to project your socialism on me? Since I am not a socialist.

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 12:52 AM

Did you vote for Obama?
If so then you are a socialist.

sharrukin on January 16, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Did you vote for Obama?
If so then you are a socialist.

sharrukin on January 16, 2013 at 1:00 AM

No I didn’t vote for Obama. Did you?

I voted for Gary Johnson.

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 1:04 AM

Honest question. Why are some of you perfectly ok with the Redistribution of Wealth from the North East to the anti-intellectual “keep your government hands off my medicare” South?

The South pays next to nothing in Federal Taxes yet sees an obscene amount of tax dollars sent to them while the exact opposite happens to the North East.

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 1:09 AM

I voted for Gary Johnson.

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 1:04 AM

Then why are you using standard leftist talking points? Oh right, a Liberaltarian.

sharrukin on January 16, 2013 at 1:11 AM

Then why are you using standard leftist talking points? Oh right, a Liberaltarian.

sharrukin on January 16, 2013 at 1:11 AM

Umm, actually it is spelled Libertarian.

What leftist talking points?

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 1:13 AM

Umm, actually it is spelled Libertarian.

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 1:13 AM

I think I spelled it correctly.

the anti-intellectual “keep your government hands off my medicare” South?

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 1:09 AM

More leftist talking points.

The difference between paddling in the North and South is that in the South, kids probably get paddled for believing the Earth is more than 4,000 years old. Or worse, that Dinosaurs actually existed and the bones weren’t just put there by God to test our “faith.”

TEPJoePa on September 26, 2012 at 9:58 AM

And yet more.

sharrukin on January 16, 2013 at 1:19 AM

I think I spelled it correctly.

Actually you didn’t. Or is proper spelling considered “socialist?”

More leftist talking points.
And yet more.

So in your mind being against the Redistribution of Wealth is “Leftist?” WOW!

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 1:24 AM

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 1:13 AM

Do you actually have an opinion that didn’t come The New York Times?

sharrukin on January 16, 2013 at 1:25 AM

Do you actually have an opinion that didn’t come The New York Times?

sharrukin on January 16, 2013 at 1:25 AM

So you are saying the only news YOU get is from the NYT?

Again. Answer some simple questions without falling back on anti-intellectual attacks on me.

-Why is it ok for the North East’s wealth be Redistributed to the South?

-Why is it ok to think Medicare is NOT a government program?

-Why is it ok for Southern politicians who welcome the North East’s wealth as it is Redistributed to the South and who vote for disaster relief including pork for their states all of the sudden lie and claim to be about small government when it comes to disaster relief for the “makers”, the North East?

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 1:33 AM

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 12:40 AM

What do you have against the South? Have you ever been South?

Bmore on January 16, 2013 at 1:40 AM

What do you have against the South? Have you ever been South?

Bmore on January 16, 2013 at 1:40 AM

Yes, I have been to a lot of the states in the Continental United States including states in the South.

My problem is their “small government” hypocrisy.

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 1:43 AM

-Why is it ok for the North East’s wealth be Redistributed to the South?

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 1:33 AM

Does that factor out space and military items, as well as the farm bill which is mostly food stamps (80%) paying for liberal votes?

sharrukin on January 16, 2013 at 1:45 AM

My problem is their “small government” hypocrisy.

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 1:43 AM

As opposed to which states small government hypocrisy?

Bmore on January 16, 2013 at 1:46 AM

You said their. What state is not included amongst their that you speak of?

Bmore on January 16, 2013 at 1:48 AM

Which states do you see as small government?

Bmore on January 16, 2013 at 1:51 AM

As opposed to which states small government hypocrisy?

Bmore on January 16, 2013 at 1:46 AM

The point is this… How many Southern politicians other than Rand and Ron Paul have the testicular fortitude to vote against pork to their states or more importantly Disaster Relief to their states because they are allegedly about “small government?”

Disaster Relief and alleged Pork for Me but not for Thee.

That is the problem.

I’d respect the Republicans in the House that voted against the Sandy relief if they constantly voted against anything that had alleged pork in it and constantly voted against Hurricane, Flooding, Tornado, ect relief coming to their states.

Instead they punish the “makers” in NY/NJ. small government when the money won’t be coming to the Southern states. How convenient.

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 1:52 AM

Ten minutes between questions ain’t gonna work at this late hour. I’ll peek back in come morning.

Bmore on January 16, 2013 at 1:53 AM

That you seem to see this as a Southern issue is what I find puzzling. I’m not sure why you have narrowed your indictment on pork spending being a Southern thing. As if only Southern politicians might be found wanting on it. Perhaps if you could point out some NE politicians that practiced restraint on spending.

Bmore on January 16, 2013 at 1:59 AM

Ron Paul have the testicular fortitude to vote against pork to their states or more importantly Disaster Relief to their states because they are allegedly about “small government?”

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 1:52 AM

U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) was one of only four House Republicans to break rank from the party and request earmarks despite a Republican Conference earmark moratorium. Paul sent 41 earmark requests totaling $157,093,544 for the 2011 Fiscal Year. His largest single request was $19,500,000 for a naval training ship at the Texas Maritime Academy in Galveston, followed by a $18,126,000 to provide maintenance on the Matagorda Ship Channel.

After reporters started asking questions, the Congressman disclosed his requests this year for about $400 million worth of federal funding for no fewer than 65 earmarks. They include such urgent national wartime priorities as an $8 million request for the marketing of wild American shrimp and $2.3 million to fund shrimp-fishing research.

He votes against the bills knowing they will pass, but he loads them with pork for his district.

sharrukin on January 16, 2013 at 1:59 AM

And why do you feel “the makers” as you call them are only penalized in the North?

Bmore on January 16, 2013 at 2:01 AM

He votes against the bills knowing they will pass, but he loads them with pork for his district.

sharrukin on January 16, 2013 at 1:59 AM

Touche

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 2:04 AM

Fvck the Northeast especially the capital of syphilis, NY. The only parasites in the South are the carpetbaggers and professional poor.

ClassicCon on January 16, 2013 at 2:43 AM

this twaggot is quite a piece of work.

tom daschle concerned on January 16, 2013 at 2:50 AM

Oh, and the MSM is blasting the GOP-led House as heartless meanies for waiting “ten weeks after Sandy to pass the bill”.

So much for putting this political football behind them. All the pork still passes, and the left has another club to beat the GOP with for the further manipulation of Free Stuff voters.

Well played, Boehner and GOP Establishment. Well played.

Should I just turn in my firearms and donate my property to the federal government now, so as to save the hassle of mandatory confiscation and nationalization later? With leadership this Fluking inept we are all totally screwed.

MidniteRambler on January 16, 2013 at 4:48 AM

The cruelest thing they could do to him is elect him to another term.

The cruelest thing they could do to him America is elect him to another term.
Fixed it.

Don L on January 16, 2013 at 5:45 AM

So, this tells me Boehner may be making plans to do a lot of things with Democrats from now on.

JellyToast on January 16, 2013 at 6:29 AM

We can only hope and pray that sometime soon there will be a deadly storm that hits the South and Flyover Country kills a bunch of people and destroys their homes and businesses.

TEPJoePa on January 16, 2013 at 12:40 AM

We have that now. It’s called the Hurricane Obama. Put that together with the RINO Disaster and it’s the perfect storm.

JellyToast on January 16, 2013 at 6:35 AM

Presumably tonight’s vote was his way of signaling to the tea partiers in the caucus that, if push comes to shove, he’ll let Democrats pass a debt-ceiling hike with help from Republican centrists too. There’s not much conservative members could do to punish him for that; he already has the worst job in Washington. The cruelest thing they could do to him is elect him to another term.

I do not even know what that is supposed to mean. For years I have heard conservatives go after Reid for not allowing votes to come up…for not passing a budget…and they should…and for years I have heard conservatives demand and up or down vote on bills that they wanted to pass. I honestly do not understand what you think Boehner was expected to do here…refuse a vote on the bill? Really? Say Screw the American people, I do not like the way this is going so I am just going to sit on this? In other words…act like Harry Reid?

I do not know what will happen in the debt ceiling vote. I really don’t…but I do know that the rating agencies are already threatening a downgrade if there is any drama in the talks. Believe it or not doing something politically stupid for which there is no political support among the people is not actually going to promote anything other than getting your ass handed to you.

Hopefully, they will be able to maintain some leverage in those talks but until and unless the American people actually vote these Democrats out of office there is not a whole hell of a lot Boehner can do about this..that is why Reid will not bring up a budget. That way he does not have to call votes at all.

Terrye on January 16, 2013 at 6:49 AM

I’m not sure people get what happened. Boehner’s strategy has cost the Republicans good will, votes, and possibly the majority in 2016. He’s done more to completely ruin the Republican brand than the Democrats and their media wing have done, in the past month.

He needs to go.

bflat879 on January 16, 2013 at 7:41 AM

but I do know that the rating agencies are already threatening a downgrade if there is any drama

I would not trust any credit that doesn’t downgrade us. We had 80% of the house (you know, the only leverage against the out of control spending) get rolled by all the dems and all the NE GOP. I have no delusion that if the geographics were moved south southern GOP would have done the same but I do not believe a NE GOP member would have held back any pork.

But in this case our reps get to come and say “Hey, we didn’t vote for it!” knowing full well it would pass. No discussion, no debate, same ‘ol same ‘ol.

Boehner can go to hell or Ohio. He’s a loser and his constituents can have him.

DanMan on January 16, 2013 at 7:45 AM

Jaime Herrera-Beutler(RINO-WA3) voted yes. Yet another affirmative action failure that was elected on a false pretense.

Screwed amigo’s.

Mr. Arrogant on January 16, 2013 at 7:46 AM

Until conservatives are ready to band together and fight the good fight, nothing will change. We can continue to come to sites like HA and discuss what is going on and how we have all the answers but until we act, nothing will change. Did I mention nothing will change unless we do something? I am ready to get behind a strong, conservative movement. Other than changing things in my life, which I have already done and will continue to do, how do we go about creating and executing a plan to take our country back?

texasmagnolia on January 15, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Nationalist Party to the rescue. Not one thin dime to the RNC LLC.

Mr. Arrogant on January 16, 2013 at 7:49 AM

Caption under Boehner’s pic should have been

Majorities Leadership?

Sir Napsalot on January 16, 2013 at 8:25 AM

John Boehner will undoubtedly be the next GOP candidate for the Presidency. The only person I could see daring to challenge his awesomeness is Jay Rockafeller.

CorporatePiggy on January 16, 2013 at 8:33 AM

It gets tiring to say, probably more tiring to hear, but my offer still stands. Can anyone, anywhere, show me how the GOP has stopped the Obama agenda in anything, in any way, shape or form? The GOP, as well as the rest of our government/media/education/elite, has bee taken over by the Progressives who want nothing less than the destruction of the USA as we know it, and we are in the final stages of that end.

WHEN WILL YOU ALL GET IT? How many times will this have to repeated? And no, I’m not some Paul looney. I haven’t read the thread comments, sorry I’m always late to the party, but I would bet $ that some useful fool thinks as long as we get rid of Boehner everything will be right in the GOP again. Conservatives lost the fight a looong time ago but keep returning to their vomit.

quiz1 on January 16, 2013 at 8:46 AM

This is why people are still calling Colin Powell a Repub. The party has shifted and it’s showing. There are some dems who think this isn’t their grandfathers’ democrat party, so now we’ve come to realize the same thing. These Rs aren’t the same, either. We didn’t leave the party, it left us. Emphasis on left.

Kissmygrits on January 16, 2013 at 8:47 AM

I honestly think Boehner tries as hard as he can. We need true Republican unity between both Houses. We need Boehner, Ryan and Rubio/McConnell to be well coordinated and all working together on every issue. We need everyone on the same page, or we are not going anywhere as a party.
The rats are united. They are scared not to be. Not so on our side.

rodguy911 on January 16, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Boehner doesn’t have the worst job in Washington. Boehner is doing the worst job in Washington.

Whether through coercion or by choice, Boehner is a treasonous coward. The mere fact that he had the shrivelled prunes to run again for his position is appalling.

If it were scientifically feasible, he would deserve even less respect than San Fran Nan.

ROCnPhilly on January 16, 2013 at 9:07 AM

And Paul Ryan voted against it, for some reason…

BigWillieStyles on January 16, 2013 at 9:15 AM

Let’s just find some tightwad and make him King. That way, we’d only have to pay to enrich ONE guy, instead of the entire Congress and all its clingers-on. I’d almost settle for a King at this point. That is, if we could find a nice thrifty one. {sigh…}

I jest, but damn… We keep sending these people to Washington, and they keep lining the trough. It’s 16 TRILLION dollars already. If we can’t even make them understand that we’ve had it with the pork, then why do we bother?

Murf76 on January 16, 2013 at 9:22 AM

rodguy911 on January 16, 2013 at 9:06 AM

If you believe that we should all hold hands and cheer Boehner and comrades on, you have become detached from reality.

ROCnPhilly on January 16, 2013 at 9:36 AM

As I said before, he’s Pelosi.

Exactly how would this have been different if Pelosi were Speaker?

Blaise on January 16, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Simple question – Who wrote the bill?

Either a committee with a Republican chairman and majority, or a group of staff chosen by the Republican Speaker. Either way, a Republican party that does not believe in limited government or the rule of law, has no point for me.

Unless, Boehner and the House Republicans get serious(significant cuts, implemented immediatly) deficit reduction on the debt-ceiling debate, the Republican party will simply be dead to me.

pilsener on January 16, 2013 at 10:22 AM

Let’s just find some tightwad and make him King. That way, we’d only have to pay to enrich ONE guy, instead of the entire Congress and all its clingers-on. I’d almost settle for a King at this point. That is, if we could find a nice thrifty one. {sigh…}

Murf76 on January 16, 2013 at 9:22 AM

One of the few advantages of a monarchy was that if things went far enough south, it was a lot easier for John Q. Citizen to determine where the buck stopped and what should be done about it.

The problem was, of course, that said monarchy still had as much control of the military as our Presidents do…and on top of that they tended to live in big fortified castles. The French demonstrated that said castles were not invincible, but ~98 times out of 100 pitchforks and torches didn’t work so well against archers and cavalry and knights.

MelonCollie on January 16, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Sound of crickets from 2:04 a.m. on………..Touche’. Must be a Northern thing.

Bmore on January 16, 2013 at 11:48 AM

If the Republicans let themselves get rolled on the debt ceiling too, I will cease to be a Republican after 30 years of regular voting. Either they stand for fiscal restraint or it is time to light the match.

LarryinLA on January 16, 2013 at 11:57 AM

@quiz1 Those families earning between $250-450K/year disagree with you.

tommy71 on January 16, 2013 at 12:00 PM

What a thorough and complete mismanagement of OUR f’ing MONEY!
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Karl Magnus on January 16, 2013 at 12:31 PM

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SD Tom on January 16, 2013 at 1:00 PM

As I said before, he’s Pelosi.

Exactly how would this have been different if Pelosi were Speaker?

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That’s easy, Pelosi would have passed it in December, everyone would have said how wonderful it was and how bad the Republicans were that opposed it, the Democrats would have gotten hundreds of additional votes and laughed all the way to the inaugural events.

What Boehner did was stupid, stupid, stupid. WIthout an alternative ready, which he had plenty of time for, he should have just passed the Senate bill. If he had an alternative, he should have submitted it and forced Reid to deal with it. He did neither.

bflat879 on January 16, 2013 at 1:10 PM

To TEP Joe Pa – Southern States getting more than they give? Where do you get your information. You really need to do your homework. Southern states have less unemployment which means they’re not getting that extra money for that plus they’re actually paying taxes.

bflat879 on January 16, 2013 at 1:19 PM

@quiz1 Those families earning between $250-450K/year disagree with you.

tommy71 on January 16, 2013 at 12:00 PM

If you think that’s a victory then you don’t get it.

quiz1 on January 16, 2013 at 2:33 PM

Politicians….

Thieving worthless A S S H O L E S!

Now Targets for Removal.

Calm down boy…everybody dies at some point…some sooner, some later.

dirtengineer on January 16, 2013 at 5:22 PM

So Far, Boehner has more votes from Dems than repubs in this session.

LMAO! So now that Boehner is in charge of the new Democrat Lite Party(Formerly Known As the GOP), who will be joining the New GOP?

I would suggest, NO MORE rINOS! If you are stupid enough to think that Socialism/Marxism can be mixed/Hybridized, with Capitalism, requires you to ignore 100+ years of FAILURE, in said attempt, then you shouldn’t be allowed to join, until you understand. Yes! Logic and Common Sense are requirements, so that alone eliminates rinos/eSTAB-conservatives-in-the-Back repubs and all levels of Libicans!

http://www.paratisiusa.blogspot.com

God Bless America!

paratisi on January 16, 2013 at 5:31 PM

If there isn’t a new party for the conservatives in 2014, we aren’t voting anymore. We know that the demonrats & repubs don’t represent us anymore and the libertarians are a bunch of nuts, the vote counting is probably corrupt, it doesn’t make much sense to waste time going to the polls.

johnny reb on January 16, 2013 at 5:33 PM

I knew I was missing something. I couldn’t quite put my finger on it though. Thanks.

Steve Eggleston on January 15, 2013 at 9:09 PM

If you’re being snarky here, it only amuses me, and makes me want to say, “You’re welcome!” :)

both parties want the debt ceiling raised right?

equanimous on January 15, 2013 at 9:12 PM

The typical GOPer who wants the debt ceiling raised doesn’t have the same motivation as the typical Dumbocrat who does.

Any GOPer who is willing to raise the debt ceiling w/o first requiring serious spending reforms to be associated with his/her potential vote is a useless coward.

Anti-Control on January 16, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Boehner did exactly as I told you he would

He sided with the Dems to get the legislation through

He put the conservatives and TP’s on the back of the bus

How many times have I been wrong?

The GOP will betray you

True_King on January 16, 2013 at 6:16 PM

If there isn’t a new party for the conservatives in 2014, we aren’t voting anymore. We know that the demonrats & repubs don’t represent us anymore and the libertarians are a bunch of nuts, the vote counting is probably corrupt, it doesn’t make much sense to waste time going to the polls.

johnny reb on January 16, 2013 at 5:33 PM

If you’re not willing to go 3rd party by then I could completely respect a decision to bow out. Because if you can’t even whip the GOP into defense when the 2nd amendment is on the line, they’re useless and unreformable, and there’s no point in voting…with the ballot box, that is.

MelonCollie on January 16, 2013 at 6:21 PM

One more time – I’d be embarrassed if I still considered myself a Republican.

Over50 on January 16, 2013 at 10:37 PM

The only problem I see, with a 3rd Party, is you’ll be constantly splitting the Republican vote, so the Democrats will get more power, until the whole thing falls apart. Let’s face it, with Republicans in the House, it could all fall apart faster because they’re doing nothing to slow the rate of spending in D.C.

The Republicans need to deal with Pravda and Izvestia first. You can’t have an honest debate on the issues without a free press and what we have now is little more than the media wing of the Democratic Party. It’s apparent they no longer report the news, they chose sides and report the propaganda. This last election was the final straw, as far as I’m concerned. I’m not sure how you deal with it, either by pulling advertising and treating all of them like Fox News is treated by Democrats would be a start. Whatever it is, it has to be done, and it has to be done soon. There are serious issues that have to be dealt with, immigration, guns, debt, and spending, without the media “reporting” on the issue, the Republicans will have a difficult time getting their side out, on each issue. No matter what you say, the majority of the American people still get their news from legacy media. It’s a fact that has to be dealt with.

bflat879 on January 16, 2013 at 11:21 PM

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