……both offering freebies to ILLEGAL ALIENS.

So I should vote for Rubio Ryan or any other “Government is the solution” republican why?

THROW them ALL out of office…….every single one of them.

Rivals?

RINOs

READ THIS POLL. (The only one I have ever seen that offers all 3 options).

40% of Hispanics favor attrition through enforcement, NOT amnesty!!

Only 54% of Hispanics favor amnesty.

A few political truths:

1. The 54% are already Democrats.

2. The GOP cannot out-pander the Democrats for this 54%.

Why does the GOP (and many posters here) ignore the 40% and assume all Hispanics favor amnesty?

If we appeal to the 40% and KEEP the Conservative base, no pandering is required. No “amnesty” is required. No reward of the ill-gotten goods (residency) to the criminals who stole it.

Anyone who advocates amnesty would also “solve” problem of a sinking ship by declaring the incoming seawater to be “cargo” instead of fixing the leak (sealing the border) and starting to bail (enforcing attrition through enforcement — E-Verify etc.)

Attrition WORKS (wherever it is really tried).

It is a tandem gang of pimps- Dem and GOP- selling out the country for a mess of pottage transitory power.

Peter Paul & Mary – Puff the Magic Dragon

Lets rock.

Oh, did they all vote yet for the $59 Billion Sandy pork part II bill?

I agree with ThePrimordialOrderedPair: thumbs way down for Rubio & Ryan.

Straight out of the democrat handbook. Sounds just like something you’d hear Nancy Pelosi say.

xblade on January 14, 2013 at 10:31 PM

I know… How dare I want a career and not want to be barefoot in the kitchen popping out dozens of babies.

I agree with Republicans on fiscal issues and I am pro-life. However, I do not agree with Santorum on his desire to force women back into the kitchen and his weird fixation on gays.

Rubio and Rand Paul are probably my top choices since the rest are all RINOs, neoconservatives, and/or un-electable.

Aizen on January 14, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Cruz actually has far more experience in government than Rand Paul, although I like Rand Paul.

Honest question, but why don’t you vote Democrat?

sharrukin on January 14, 2013 at 11:00

Ummm… Because I don’t like paying taxes and I don’t like my money being spent on lazy people who cannot get jobs.

Ivy League education tends to do that to people. I know it is not right for me to judge people based on where they went to school, but I am a little tired of Ivy League folks running this country. The reason why we are in the mess is because of their graduates.

William Eaton on January 14, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Yeah.. Didn’t know that Cruz went to Harvard, but that is a good point. What I love most about Rubio and Ryan is both graduated from public universities and both were in serious debt for awhile. They are normal people. Considering that the last four Presidents went to “elite” Ivy League schools, we’re in danger of becoming like France where only the children of the elite who went to the grandes ecoles can become leaders in French society.

So…who is your pick?

William Eaton on January 14, 2013 at 11:06 PM

What would that matter? Rubio and Ryan both suck. Rubio is totally unacceptable and Ryan just showed that he’s awful in a campaign – not to mention his continuing terrible votes.

2012 was my last GOP vote. The fact that those idiots re-elected the Weeping Boner only shows how useless they are. Not only are they cowards but they’re incredibly stupid on top of it.

As to Rubio, amnesty is a deal-breaker. Period. There’s nothing else to say about it except that anyone who keeps pushing amnesty (especially after having seen the GOP commit suicide with it in 2006-2008) is too dumb for much of anything. Rubio can take his tribalism and lack of respect for American sovereignty and shove it. I never liked the guy but he is proving what a loser he is.

They both suck.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 14, 2013 at 11:01 PM

So…who is your pick?

Ever hear about a guy named Barack Obama?

bw222 on January 14, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Obama was already known by 2004 by the progressives. Remember his DNC speech in 2004. Cruz will need a big forum to introduce himself and get some mighty mo before I can see him in 2016.

Cruz comes off as a smarmy jerk. I really don’t want another of those types. And at least Rubio comes off as genuine. I think that he is very fluffy, but he also seems like a really nice guy. I’d prefer Ryan, but Rubio isn’t bad.

Illinidiva on January 14, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Ivy League education tends to do that to people. I know it is not right for me to judge people based on where they went to school, but I am a little tired of Ivy League folks running this country. The reason why we are in the mess is because of their graduates.

I’d prefer Ryan, but Rubio isn’t bad.

Illinidiva on January 14, 2013 at 10:52 PM

They both suck.

Paul Ryan: I support Marco Rubio on immigration

And you vote for lots of really awful bills, too, along with having been totally worthless during the campaign while running for your Congressional seat at the same time. Nice stuff, there. Take a hike with Rubio.

These guys are all bozos.

Illinidiva on January 14, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Honest question, but why don’t you vote Democrat?

Ever hear about a guy named Barack Obama?

bw222 on January 14, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Cruz comes off as a smarmy jerk. I really don’t want another of those types. And at least Rubio comes off as genuine. I think that he is very fluffy, but he also seems like a really nice guy. I’d prefer Ryan, but Rubio isn’t bad.

You know, I think the GOP can legitimately take hold of the immigration issue without flushing conservatism down the drain.

Sure, they “could”. It’s called enforcing the law. Not complicated. You can’t get more legitimate than that. But they’re not interested. The dirty little secret is the GOP wants illegals here as bad as the DNC.

If the party proposes some minor form of amnesty under the premise that each and every illegal alien who benefits from the program must forgo welfare/benefits, that would throw the ball into the Democrats’ court and expose them for who they really are.

Aizen

Good luck with that. We can’t even keep illegal children out of our schools now. They are required to be admitted by law. This little agreement would last about a week. Not to mention any kids they have here under this minor amnesty would be citizens at birth, and would be entitled to the same benefits as any other.

Even this minor amnesty is a defeat, because at that point you’ve admitted they actually have a right to be here. From then on, you’re simply negotiating over price, to borrow from a popular joke. And that price will ultimately be the country.