Obama: I’ll “vigorously” pursue a “meaningful” assault-weapons ban

posted at 4:31 pm on January 14, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via Mediaite and NBC, a reminder to his base that he’d like to Do Something even though everyone realizes by now that very little will be Done. Quote:

President Barack Obama on Monday acknowledged that full implementation of his expected gun control proposals may be stonewalled in Congress but pledged to “vigorously pursue” recommendations from an administration task force, including a “meaningful” assault weapons ban.

“What you can count on is that the things that I’ve said in the past – the belief that we have to have stronger background checks, that we can do a much better job in terms of keeping these magazine clips with high capacity out of the hands of those who shouldn’t have them, an assault weapons ban that’s meaningful – those are things I continue to believe make sense,” Obama said during the final press conference of his first term.

The key word is “meaningful.” If the new proposed AWB is anything like the old AWB, it’ll amount to a ban on scary-looking semiautomatic rifles, forcing America’s mass shooters and gang members t simply arm themselves to the teeth with semiautomatic pistols (or black-market semiautomatic rifles, of course) instead. Frank Fleming floats a compromise plan: For all the good that a new assault-weapons ban would do, why not just have the House and Senate pass strict new regulations on weapons that don’t exist?

What we can do is pass a law banning a bunch of made-up things that sound scary, and many gun control proponents already have great ideas along this line. For instance, I read a column in which Howard Kurtz mentioned a ban on high-magazine clips — we can certainly do without something that nonsensical. And I’ve heard the press before mention armor-piercing hollow points and plastic guns (actually, I think we already banned that made-up weapon in the ’80s). And as long as the NRA and Wayne LaPierre go apoplectic about it (“This ban on sorcerer-enchanted guns is just a slippery slope toward eliminating all witch-hexed weaponry!”), gun control proponents won’t know the difference between this and actual gun control. And this will help protect our most vulnerable people out there: politicians. Because long after the gun control advocates move on to other things, like who they want to tax next, gun owners will still be annoyed by any actual gun control legislation. One of the greatest fears politicians have is seeing an angry guy with lots of guns charging down the street, because they know he’s probably on his way to commit an act of voting.

Chuck Schumer sent a letter to gun retailers this weekend asking them to suspend sales while Congress hashes this out, which sounds insane given how high demand is right now but makes sense in the context of administration cronyism. The White House has shown it’s not above cutting deals that benefit big business when passing new regulations; if Walmart plays nice with Schumer and Obama now, they may benefit in whatever bill eventually comes to the Senate floor this month or in the future, when Democrats are in a better position to pass something.

Exit question via ABC and National Journal: Why is Obama risking so much political capital on gun-control legislation when nothing major will pass and it risks becoming a distraction for his second term? He’s going to ask purple-state Senate Democrats to take tough votes on Chuck Hagel and immigration reform. Why make them take one on gun control too? The answer, I think, is that the Hagel and immigration votes aren’t as tough as people think. Hagel will get a few Republican votes, and in any event public ire over cabinet appointments rarely lasts. Immigration is dicier but that’ll get some GOP support too after November’s drubbing among Latinos. In fact, I’m curious to see how far grassroots conservatives are willing to go this time in punishing congressional Republicans for voting yes on a multi-step amnesty. Is that primary-worthy, or have changing demographics now reached the point where the optics of trying to oust a Republican for supporting an immigration bill are too dangerous?


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“The Fedcoats are coming! The Fedcoats are coming!”

rayra on January 14, 2013 at 7:20 PM

The questions to ask are these:

Why is he in a hurry to get this thing done?
Is he expecting society to suddenly dissolve and would rather government have all the weapons and the people none?

For what reason does the “pandora’s box” need to be opened?

History tells the tale. Mark the time well.
Obama is the least of our worries. His “handlers” are the real problem.

Talismen on January 14, 2013 at 7:24 PM

..obligatory War Planner perpetual reminder that THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT has a chartered corporation that will sell you semi-automatic surplus assault weapons at under market value.

Recommend taking them up on this “gun loophole”.

The War Planner on January 14, 2013 at 5:00 PM

AND they are exempted by special act of congress so that can ship those rifles right to your front door.

rayra on January 14, 2013 at 7:28 PM

I was at Wal-Mart today and was told by the manager guy that they aren’t restocking any of their ammo. This is in a large suburban store. He said personally, he thought it was a really bad move on Wal-Mart’s part, but no-one listened to him. The shelves were bare.

megthered on January 14, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Obama is the least of our worries. His “handlers” are the real problem.

Talismen on January 14, 2013 at 7:24 PM

.
Dittos.

listens2glenn on January 14, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Texas Republican congressman Steve Stockman threatens impeachment if Obama uses executive action for gun control.

mechkiller_k on January 14, 2013 at 7:33 PM

With a Dem Senate and John Roberts in Stockman’s way? It has no chance.

Obama will never be held to account for anything. He has no political capital to risk by doing this.

Myron Falwell on January 14, 2013 at 7:40 PM

With a Dem Senate and John Roberts in Stockman’s way? It has no chance.

Obama will never be held to account for anything. He has no political capital to risk by doing this.

Myron Falwell on January 14, 2013 at 7:40 PM

The very act of impeaching the Manchurian usurper will slow him down and create waves.

I don’t give a damn if Harry F’n Reid sayd he won’t even hold a vote.

Impeachment is overdue. It was warranted, in my opinion, notwithstanding other provacations, the second he sent our jets to shoot down Qaddafi’s winged tanks that were flying over Tripoli and refused to ask Congress.

That, alone, is impeachable.

cane_loader on January 14, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Sorry for the typos – it’s dark in here.

cane_loader on January 14, 2013 at 7:53 PM

Browncoatone on January 14, 2013 at 6:29 PM

I prefer this kind of aggressive negotiations

Wolftech on January 14, 2013 at 7:53 PM

I’m curious to see how far grassroots conservatives are willing to go this time in punishing congressional Republicans for voting yes on a multi-step amnesty. Is that primary-worthy, or have changing demographics now reached the point where the optics of trying to oust a Republican for supporting an immigration bill are too dangerous?

The 1.3 million members of NumbersUSA are willing to go as far as they need to to stop amnesty, just like the 350,000 (the number in 2007) members did at the time in 2007 against Bush.

TxAnn56 on January 14, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Obama was asked what he thought about all the crowds at the gun stores buying everything in sight. He said it was all due to the “greed” of the gun manufacturers.

juliesa on January 14, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Preposterous. In a saner time he would have been laughed off his stage.

What it’s all due to is his threat to ban the sale of them, and his moving toward confiscating them to prevent them being used to defend liberty and Constitutional government.

petefrt on January 14, 2013 at 8:00 PM

Allah when will you stop pushing amnesty rhetoric? Reagan got lesser percentage of the Hispanic vote after signing amnesty than before. Hispanics will NEVER EVER vote Republican until Republicans become a shadow of the Democrats on domestic policy. Oh and stop schmoozing for that slick amnesty salesman Rubio.

flawedskull on January 14, 2013 at 6:41 PM

It’s really getting beyond ridiculous that a so-called ‘conservative’ political site is completely staffed with moderate-RINO-liberals.

rayra on January 14, 2013 at 8:04 PM

The questions to ask are these:

Why is he in a hurry to get this thing done?
Is he expecting society to suddenly dissolve and would rather government have all the weapons and the people none?

For what reason does the “pandora’s box” need to be opened?

History tells the tale. Mark the time well.
Obama is the least of our worries. His “handlers” are the real problem.

Talismen on January 14, 2013 at 7:24 PM

They’ve got to disarm us or make us all felons in being before they can trigger their financial collapse / glorious marxist revolution / new constitutional convention to remake America.

rayra on January 14, 2013 at 8:06 PM

cane_loader on January 14, 2013 at 7:52 PM

It should happen, but it never will.

Again, Obama will never face any kind of accountability. Not when he’s equated to a God. And the Socialists will write the history books to make him look like the greatest President who ever freaking lived.

Myron Falwell on January 14, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Just need an Enabling Act, huh?

wolly4321 on January 14, 2013 at 8:07 PM

It should happen, but it never will.

Again, Obama will never face any kind of accountability. Not when he’s equated to a God. And the Socialists will write the history books to make him look like the greatest President who ever freaking lived.

Myron Falwell on January 14, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Just a little original thought on my part:

Look at your change in your pocket. You’ve got a penny, nickel, dime and quarter.

Which one is not allowed to be touched in the Mint’s ongoing seignorage games to repeatedly change the designs a lot to make collectors hoard them?

ThR Roosevelt dime.

The Lincoln penny has had five designs since 2009. The Jefferson nickel has had five since 2004. The Washington quarter has had about 80, and counting, since 1999.

The Roosevelt dime sails on, untouched, since 1946.

FDR is a saint.

So it will be with 0bama.

On the $1,000,000,000,000 coin.

cane_loader on January 14, 2013 at 8:15 PM

SSSHHHHH! Let them put a ban on magazine clips. I don’t own any of those.

BobMbx on January 14, 2013 at 6:19 PM

You can have mine; I’ve stopped saving them. (The Newsweek ones might be worth something now.)

Barnestormer on January 14, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Cane_loader,, that’s an interesting point on the mint. I didn’t know that.

wolly4321 on January 14, 2013 at 8:42 PM

I have a magazine clip. It’s called black duct tape. Two 30 rounders taped together.

wolly4321 on January 14, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Sorry for the typos – it’s dark in here.

cane_loader on January 14, 2013 at 7:53 PM

It’s getting dark everywhere.

Galt2009 on January 14, 2013 at 8:59 PM

It’s getting dark everywhere.

Galt2009 on January 14, 2013 at 8:59 PM

http://www.winstonchurchill.org/learn/speeches/speeches-of-winston-churchill/524-the-defence-of-freedom-and-peace

I avail myself with relief of the opportunity of speaking to the people of the United States. I do not know how long such liberties will be allowed. The stations of uncensored expression are closing down; the lights are going out; but there is still time for those to whom freedom and parliamentary government mean something, to consult together. Let me, then, speak in truth and earnestness while time remains.

The American people have, it seems to me, formed a true judgment upon the disaster which has befallen Europe. They realise, perhaps more clearly than the French and British publics have yet done, the far-reaching consequences of the abandonment and ruin of the Czechoslovak Republic. I hold to the conviction I expressed some months ago, that if in April, May or June, Great Britain, France, and Russia had jointly declared that they would act together upon Nazi Germany if Herr Hitler committed an act of unprovoked aggression against this small State, and if they had told Poland, Yugoslavia, and Rumania what they meant to do in good time, and invited them to join the combination of peace-defending Powers, I hold that the German Dictator would have been confronted with such a formidable array that he would have been deterred from his purpose. This would also have been an opportunity for all the peace-loving and moderate forces in Germany, together with the chiefs of the German Army, to make a great effort to re-establish something like sane and civilised conditions in their own country. If the risks of war which were run by France and Britain at the last moment had been boldly faced in good time, and plain declarations made, and meant, how different would our prospects be today!

But all these backward speculations belong to history. It is no good using hard words among friends about the past, and reproaching one another for what cannot be recalled. It is the future, not the past, that demands our earnest and anxious thought. We must recognize that the Parliamentary democracies and liberal, peaceful forces have everywhere sustained a defeat which leaves them weaker, morally and physically, to cope with dangers which have vastly grown. But the cause of freedom has in it a recuperative power and virtue which can draw from misfortune new hope and new strength. If ever there was a time when men and women who cherish the ideals of the founders of the British and American Constitutions should take earnest counsel with one another, that time is now.

All the world wishes for peace and security. Have we gained it by the sacrifice of the Czechoslovak Republic. Here was the model democratic State of Central Europe, a country where minorities were treated better than anywhere else. It has been deserted, destroyed and devoured. It is now being digested. The question which is of interest to a lot of ordinary people, common people, is whether this destruction of the Czechoslovak Republic will bring upon the world a blessing or a curse.

We must all hope it will bring a blessing; that after we have averted our gaze for a while from the process of subjugation and liquidation, everyone will breathe more freely; that a load will be taken off our chests; we shall be able to say to ourselves: “Well, that’s out of the way, anyhow. Now let’s get on with our regular daily life.” But are these hopes well founded or are we merely making the best of what we had not the force and virtue to stop? That is the question that the English-speaking peoples in all their lands must ask themselves today. Is this the end, or is there more to come?

There is another question which arises out of this. Can peace, goodwill, and confidence be built upon submission to wrong-doing backed by force?

One may put this question in the largest form. Has any benefit or progress ever been achieved by the human race by submission to organised and calculated violence? As we look back over the long story of the nations we must see that, on the contrary, their glory has been founded upon the spirit of resistance to tyranny and injustice, especially when these evils seemed to be backed by heavier force. Since the dawn of the Christian era a certain way of life has slowly been shaping itself among the Western peoples, and certain standards of conduct and government have come to be esteemed. After many miseries and prolonged confusion, there arose into the broad light of day the conception of the right of the individual; his right to be consulted in the government of his country; his right to invoke the law even against the State itself. Independent Courts of Justice were created to affirm and inforce this hard-won custom. Thus was assured throughout the English-speaking world, and in France by the stern lessons of the Revolution, what Kipling called, “Leave to live by no man’s leave underneath the law.” Now in this resides all that makes existence precious to man, and all that confers honour and health upon the State.

We are confronted with another theme. It is not a new theme; it leaps out upon us from the Dark Ages – racial persecution, religious intolerance, deprivation of free speech, the conception of the citizen as a mere soulless fraction of the State. To this has been added the cult of war. Children are to be taught in their earliest schooling the delights and profits of conquest and aggression. A whole mighty community has been drawn painfully, by severe privations, into a warlike frame. They are held in this condition, which they relish no more than we do, by a party organisation, several millions strong, who derive all kinds of profits, good and bad, from the upkeep of the regime. Like the Communists, the Nazis tolerate no opinion but their own. Like the Communists, they feed on hatred. Like the Communists, they must seek, from time to time, and always at shorter intervals, a new target, a new prize, a new victim. The Dictator, in all his pride, is held in the grip of his Party machine. He can go forward; he cannot go back. He must blood his hounds and show them sport, or else, like Actaeon of old, be devoured by them. All-strong without, he is all-weak within. As Byron wrote a hundred years ago: “These Pagod things of Sabre sway, with fronts of brass and feet of clay.”

No one must, however, underrate the power and efficiency of a totalitarian state. Where the whole population of a great country, amiable, good-hearted, peace-loving people are gripped by the neck and by the hair by a Communist or a Nazi tyranny – for they are the same things spelt in different ways – the rulers for the time being can exercise a power for the purposes of war and external domination before which the ordinary free parliamentary societies are at a grievous practical disadvantage. We have to recognise this. And then, on top of all, comes this wonderful mastery of the air which our century has discovered, but of which, alas, mankind has so far shown itself unworthy. Here is this air power with its claim to torture and terrorise the women and children, the civil population of neighbouring countries.

This combination of medieval passion, a party caucus, the weapons of modern science, and the blackmailing power of air-bombing, is the most monstrous menace to peace, order and fertile progress that has appeared in the world since the Mongol invasions of the thirteenth century.

The culminating question to which I have been leading is whether the world as we have known it – the great and hopeful world of before the war, the world of increasing hope and enjoyment for the common man, the world of honoured tradition and expanding science – should meet this menace by submission or by resistance. Let us see, then, whether the means of resistance remain to us today. We have sustained an immense disaster; the renown of France is dimmed. In spite of her brave, efficient army, her influence is profoundly diminished. No one has a right to say that Britain, for all her blundering, has broken her word – indeed, when it was too late, she was better than her word. Nevertheless, Europe lies at this moment abashed and distracted before the triumphant assertions of dictatorial power. In the Spanish Peninsula, a purely Spanish quarrel has been carried by the intervention, or shall I say the “non-intervention” (to quote the current Jargon) of Dictators into the region of a world cause.

But it is not only in Europe that these oppressions prevail. China is being torn to pieces by a military clique in Japan; the poor, tormented Chinese people there are making a brave and stubborn defence. The ancient empire of Ethiopia has been overrun. The Ethiopians were taught to look to the sanctity of public law, to the tribunal of many nations gathered in majestic union. But all failed; they were deceived, and now they are winning back their right to live by beginning again from the bottom a struggle on primordial lines. Even in South America, the Nazi regime begins to undermine the fabric of Brazilian society.

Far away, happily protected by the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, you, the people of the United States, to whom I now have the chance to speak, are the spectators, and I may add the increasingly involved spectators of these tragedies and crimes. We are left in no doubt where American conviction and sympathies lie; but will you wait until British freedom and independence have succumbed, and then take up the cause when it is three-quarters ruined, yourselves alone? I hear that they are saying in the United States that because England and France have failed to do their duty therefore the American people can wash their hands of the whole business. This may be the passing mood of many people, but there is no sense in it. If things have got much worse, all the more must we try to cope with them.

For, after all, survey the remaining forces of civilisation; they are overwhelming. If only they were united in a common conception of right and duty, there would be no war. On the contrary, the German people, industrious, faithful, valiant, but alas! lacking in the proper spirit of civic independence, liberated from their present nightmare, would take their honoured place in the vanguard of human society. Alexander the Great remarked that the people of Asia were slaves because they had not learned to pronounce the word “No.” Let that not be the epitaph of the English-speaking peoples or of Parliamentary democracy, or of France, or of the many surviving liberal States of Europe.

There, in one single word, is the resolve which the forces of freedom and progress, of tolerance and good will, should take. It is not in the power of one nation, however formidably armed, still less is it in the power of a small group of men, violent, ruthless men, who have always to cast their eyes back over their shoulders, to cramp and fetter the forward march of human destiny. The preponderant world forces are upon our side; they have but to be combined to be obeyed. We must arm. Britain must arm. America must arm. If, through an earnest desire for peace, we have placed ourselves at a disadvantage, we must make up for it by redoubled exertions, and, if necessary, by fortitude in suffering.

We shall, no doubt, arm. Britain, casting away the habits of centuries, will decree national service upon her citizens. The British people will stand erect, and will face whatever may be coming.

But arms – instrumentalities, as President Wilson called them – are not sufficient by themselves. We must add to them the power of ideas. People say we ought not to allow ourselves to be drawn into a theoretical antagonism between Nazidom and democracy; but the antagonism is here now. It is this very conflict of spiritual and moral ideas which gives the free countries a great part of their strength. You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police. On all sides they are guarded by masses of armed men, cannons, aeroplanes, fortifications, and the like – they boast and vaunt themselves before the world, yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts; words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home – all the more powerful because forbidden – terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic. They make frantic efforts to bar our thoughts and words; they are afraid of the workings of the human mind. Cannons, airplanes, they can manufacture in large quantities; but how are they to quell the natural promptings of human nature, which after all these centuries of trial and progress has inherited a whole armoury of potent and indestructible knowledge?

Dictatorship – the fetish worship of one man – is a passing phase. A state of society where men may not speak their minds, where children denounce their parents to the police, where a business man or small shopkeeper ruins his competitor by telling tales about his private opinions; such a state of society cannot long endure if brought into contact with the healthy outside world. The light of civilised progress with its tolerances and co-operation, with its dignities and joys, has often in the past been blotted out. But I hold the belief that we have now at last got far enough ahead of barbarism to control it, and to avert it, if only we realise what is afoot and make up our minds in time. We shall do it in the end. But how much harder our toil for every day’s delay!

Is this a call to war? Does anyone pretend that preparation for resistance to aggression is unleashing war? I declare it to be the sole guarantee of peace. We need the swift gathering of forces to confront not only military but moral aggression; the resolute and sober acceptance of their duty by the English-speaking peoples and by all the nations, great and small, who wish to walk with them. Their faithful and zealous comradeship would almost between night and morning clear the path of progress and banish from all our lives the fear which already darkens the sunlight to hundreds of millions of men.
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cane_loader on January 14, 2013 at 9:07 PM

I avail myself with relief of the opportunity of speaking to the people of the United States. I do not know how long such liberties will be allowed. The stations of uncensored expression are closing down; the lights are going out; but there is still time for those to whom freedom and parliamentary government mean something, to consult together. Let me, then, speak in truth and earnestness while time remains.

The American people have, it seems to me, formed a true judgment upon the disaster which has befallen Europe. They realise, perhaps more clearly than the French and British publics have yet done, the far-reaching consequences of the abandonment and ruin of the Czechoslovak Republic. I hold to the conviction I expressed some months ago, that if in April, May or June, Great Britain, France, and Russia had jointly declared that they would act together upon Nazi Germany if Herr Hitler committed an act of unprovoked aggression against this small State, and if they had told Poland, Yugoslavia, and Rumania what they meant to do in good time, and invited them to join the combination of peace-defending Powers, I hold that the German Dictator would have been confronted with such a formidable array that he would have been deterred from his purpose. This would also have been an opportunity for all the peace-loving and moderate forces in Germany, together with the chiefs of the German Army, to make a great effort to re-establish something like sane and civilised conditions in their own country. If the risks of war which were run by France and Britain at the last moment had been boldly faced in good time, and plain declarations made, and meant, how different would our prospects be today!

But all these backward speculations belong to history. It is no good using hard words among friends about the past, and reproaching one another for what cannot be recalled. It is the future, not the past, that demands our earnest and anxious thought. We must recognize that the Parliamentary democracies and liberal, peaceful forces have everywhere sustained a defeat which leaves them weaker, morally and physically, to cope with dangers which have vastly grown. But the cause of freedom has in it a recuperative power and virtue which can draw from misfortune new hope and new strength. If ever there was a time when men and women who cherish the ideals of the founders of the British and American Constitutions should take earnest counsel with one another, that time is now.

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Dictatorship – the fetish worship of one man – is a passing phase. A state of society where men may not speak their minds, where children denounce their parents to the police, where a business man or small shopkeeper ruins his competitor by telling tales about his private opinions; such a state of society cannot long endure if brought into contact with the healthy outside world.

Chick-Fil-A or Hobby Lobby, anyone?

The light of civilised progress with its tolerances and co-operation, with its dignities and joys, has often in the past been blotted out. But I hold the belief that we have now at last got far enough ahead of barbarism to control it, and to avert it, if only we realise what is afoot and make up our minds in time. We shall do it in the end. But how much harder our toil for every day’s delay!

cane_loader on January 14, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Is it any wonder Obowma is the gun salesman of the year 3 years running?

dthorny on January 14, 2013 at 9:41 PM

cane_loader on January 14, 2013 at 8:15 PM

Wow!~

Dang I never thought of that. Great observation. I’m not sure it isn’t just coincidence, but still…

LegendHasIt on January 14, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Post Obama Executive Order Assault Weapons Ban Compliant AR-15 (Assault Rock)

JohnBrown on January 14, 2013 at 11:16 PM

The urgency of all this is foreboding. Obama fears an armed populace. That says we will not like what is coming in the least. All the more reason to have access to defensive and effective firearms. There is the whiff of tyranny on the wind. It should not be made easy should it emerge.

shaken on January 15, 2013 at 4:37 AM

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