CBS: Natalie Wood death to be reclassified as not accidental

posted at 2:31 pm on January 14, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

After 31 years, will the death of Natalie Wood officially become a murder? CBS reports that the Los Angeles coroner will reclassify the actress’ strange drowning as something other than accidental or “undetermined,” the status granted last year as a new investigation proceeded. The new classification will conclude that the original investigation got just about everything wrong, starting with the autopsy:

The investigation of Natalie Wood’s death was reopened more than a year ago — and now it has taken a serious turn.

The Los Angeles Coroner’s Office is expected to release a new report Monday. Sources tell CBS News the review of the original coroner’s report in 1981 raises questions about every major finding that led investigators to originally conclude Natalie Wood’s death an accident. Sources say the report concludes that the bruising on the actress’ wrists, knees, and ankles could be more consistent with injuries from an assault than they were from struggling to climb back on a boat. …

Wood’s death was ruled an accidental drowning. But in 2011, Los Angeles Sheriff’s detectives re-opened the case after the skipper of the boat, Dennis Davern, co-authored a book in which he gave a very different account of what happened that night. Davern said, “I believe Robert Wagner was with her right up until the moment she was in the water.”

Davern said there was arguing on the yacht, a fight between Wagner and fellow actor Christopher Walken in which a bottle was thrown. Key to his account is that after Wood went to bed, a loud argument — and sounds of an apparent struggle — could be heard from her cabin.

Davern said, “The fighting went back to the back of the boat and then it was quiet.”

Davern also says Wagner waited hours after Wood went missing before calling for help.

Last year, the Los Angeles Coroner’s Office changed the cause of Wood’s death from “accident” to “undetermined.” It remains to be seen if this new information will lead to criminal charges.

I’d call that “doubtful.”  Wagner’s still around at 82 years old, but if he’s the main suspect (a big if), it’s difficult to see how the DA can possibly win a case against him.  It took LA 31 years to finally figure out that it wasn’t accidental, and if that doesn’t amount to a huge boost in reasonable doubt, I’m not sure what qualifies.  Couple that with the cautious language in the CBS report, and it adds up to a questionable hash.

This case will continue in the same Hollywood twilight as the deaths of Marilyn Monroe, George Reeves, and Thomas Ince.  There will be speculation for decades to come about what happened on that yacht – which is very reminiscent of the Ince case – but unless someone confesses, we will never really know to a certainty what happened to Wood.


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Was it Number #2?

Oil Can on January 14, 2013 at 2:34 PM

But LA could make money off of movie rights, production and what not. Close cases make no money.

Flange on January 14, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Robert Wagner’s Pee!ng his Depends.

Tim_CA on January 14, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Stay tuned . . . . . . (or something).

listens2glenn on January 14, 2013 at 2:37 PM

31 years to figure it out? Yeah, that’s law enforcement for you. No surprise.

Mr. Arrogant on January 14, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Is “Wood” her actual last name? I googled her photos, and seem to figure where it may have come from…

Archivarix on January 14, 2013 at 2:38 PM

Robert Wagner’s Pee!ng his Depends.

Tim_CA on January 14, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Peeing his depends while offering you advice on a Reverse Mortgage.

portlandon on January 14, 2013 at 2:38 PM

Davern said there was arguing on the yacht, a fight between Wagner and fellow actor Christopher Walken in which a bottle was thrown.

If only she’d had more cowbell, this tragedy never would’ve happened.

James on January 14, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Who was quicker to report Teddy Kennedy or Robert Wagner?

wraithby on January 14, 2013 at 2:39 PM

If it was murder, I’m sure OJ will get right on it and find the real killer.

The Rogue Tomato on January 14, 2013 at 2:41 PM

It took LA 31 years to finally figure out that it wasn’t accidental

They don’t know that it wasn’t.

Dante on January 14, 2013 at 2:41 PM

we will never really know to a certainty what happened to Wood.

The joke of the day was “What wood doesn’t float?”…horrible sick, but most everyone was laughing at the results, it was rather obvious that it was something suspicious. But Hollywood and fame has always had a special place in the hearts of L.A.

right2bright on January 14, 2013 at 2:41 PM

The death of Natalie Wood saddened me to no end. She was/is my all-time favorite actress, and I hate the thought that she was possibly murdered by the man she loved very much.

KickandSwimMom on January 14, 2013 at 2:43 PM

#blamepalin ?

Robert_Paulson on January 14, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Is “Wood” her actual last name? I googled her photos, and seem to figure where it may have come from…

Archivarix on January 14, 2013 at 2:38 PM

Born Natalia Nikolaevna Zacharenko. Close enough.

The Rogue Tomato on January 14, 2013 at 2:43 PM

The many trips to Avalon, we raised our glasses (we used any excuse), in honor of Natalie Wood…

What did Robert Wagner say to Natalie Wood the night she died?

“Okay honey, you can have a drink, but don’t go overboard!”

Is “Wood” her actual last name? I googled her photos, and seem to figure where it may have come from…

Archivarix on January 14, 2013 at 2:38 PM

Yes it is, her middle name is Drift…

right2bright on January 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Who was quicker to report Teddy Kennedy or Robert Wagner?

wraithby on January 14, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Well, we know for sure old Teddy killed that girl. Not sure about Wagner.

BacaDog on January 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

I smell an Oliver Stone movie coming.

Mark1971 on January 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Is “Wood” her actual last name?

Nope, born Natalia Nikolaevna Zacharenko to Russian immigrants.

Studio executives at RKO Radio Pictures, David Lewis and William Goetz, later changed her name to “Natalie Wood”.

Which she was said not to like.

hawkeye54 on January 14, 2013 at 2:46 PM

What did Christopher Walken know and when did he know it?

steebo77 on January 14, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Robert Wagner – Natalie Wood – Christopher Walken

On a weekend boat ride to Catalina. Just the “3″ of them. Hmm

jake-the-goose on January 14, 2013 at 2:47 PM

man, she was gorgeous…for a reminder…do a google image search.

Tim_CA on January 14, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Well, we know for sure old Teddy killed that girl. Not sure about Wagner.

We’ll probably never know..maybe Wagner was too drunk that night to recall what he may have done, and now, conveniently, his memory is not reliable due to time elapsed and his age.

hawkeye54 on January 14, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Born Natalia Nikolaevna Zacharenko. Close enough.

The Rogue Tomato on January 14, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Ah, so prosaic, she’s Russian. A spy, perhaps? :)

Archivarix on January 14, 2013 at 2:48 PM

I smell an Oliver Stone movie coming.

Make it and people will come.

hawkeye54 on January 14, 2013 at 2:49 PM

I smell an Oliver Stone movie coming.

Mark1971 on January 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Aft, and to port. Aft, and to port….

James on January 14, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Ah, so prosaic, she’s Russian. A spy, perhaps? :)

Ah, a “sleeper” agent….perhaps?

hawkeye54 on January 14, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Who was quicker to report Teddy Kennedy or Robert Wagner?

wraithby on January 14, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Wagner by a country mile. By the time Kennedy got around to reporting, Mary Jo Kopechne had already been found by someone else.

Bitter Clinger on January 14, 2013 at 2:52 PM

I smell an Oliver Stone movie coming.

Mark1971 on January 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

All Oliver Stone’s films smell.

What I don’t understand in a city with hundreds of unsolved murders, why are the officials are so drawn to this particular one except for the publicity?

Happy Nomad on January 14, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Well, we know for sure old Teddy killed that girl. Not sure about Wagner.

BacaDog on January 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

I don’t think Kennedy was in the car.

Dante on January 14, 2013 at 2:53 PM

About that Natalie Wood biopic: Odds on Lindsay Lohan?

apostic on January 14, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Studio executives at RKO Radio Pictures, David Lewis and William Goetz, later changed her name to “Natalie Wood”.

Which she was said not to like.

hawkeye54 on January 14, 2013 at 2:46 PM

If her photos are true to the original, “Wood” is a very, very appropriate name. I’ll be in my bunk…

Archivarix on January 14, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Make it and people will come.

hawkeye54 on January 14, 2013 at 2:49 PM

If they even know who Wood was 31 years after her death. That being said, who wants to bet that Lindsey Lohan’s agent is already on the phone pushing the idea that Lohan did such a good job as Elizabeth Taylor she would be perfect for the role?

Happy Nomad on January 14, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Natalie Wood WAS WEARING a down-filled jacket when she was found, soaked through with sea water. I read earlier, previous reports about this that stated she was wearing same down-filled jacket while on board, alive, earlier.

So, to anyone who has ever tried picking up on dry land, much less wearing one in water, a soaked down-filled jacket, you know how heavy they get when wet. I can’t imagine the struggle involved if, both having had alcohol earlier (which she did, she was a heavy drinker, so was Wagner) and wearing a down-filled jacket, then gone into the water — WHICH SHE FEARED (Natalie Wood had had psychological counseling for her “fear of dark water,” she had a paranoia about it) — all combined, makes for someone who would have an extraordinarily difficult time if suddenly pitched into the water by whatever means (falling in, being pushed in, whatever).

She COULD have been pushed in, that’s the issue as far as I can tell. But unless witnessed such, there’s no way to ever know.

I think this recent news is more than likely due to insurance and liability reasons and, of course, publicity incentive which will only “encourage” liability settlement/s.

Lourdes on January 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM

This is ridiculous and unfair to Wagner. Shame on LA!

Blake on January 14, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Manning is a whistleblower and a hero.

Dante on December 6, 2012 at 8:54 AM

M240H on January 14, 2013 at 2:59 PM

And a lot of bruising on feet, hands, arms, legs, seems reasonable would have been experienced by someone flailing and in panic for their life in a dark ocean (or any dark body of water with no one available to help).

It just seems that Wood perished under really sad, really awful, lonely circumstances.

Lourdes on January 14, 2013 at 2:59 PM

I don’t think Kennedy was in the car.

Dante on January 14, 2013 at 2:53 PM

And?

Schadenfreude on January 14, 2013 at 3:01 PM

What I don’t understand in a city with hundreds of unsolved murders, why are the officials are so drawn to this particular one except for the publicity?

Happy Nomad on January 14, 2013 at 2:52 PM

My first thought too, but the truth is it’s probably the media pushing it, not the city or police.

Flange on January 14, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Is Robert Wagner a republican? Is that the problem here???

Blake on January 14, 2013 at 3:01 PM

It just seems that Wood perished under really sad, really awful, lonely circumstances.

Lourdes on January 14, 2013 at 2:59 PM

But that does not mean her death was a homicide.

Like I wrote earlier, publicity makes for increased incentive for those involved to seek a resolution. Unless there was a witness to any alleged crime, Wood’s demise seems to have been tragic but that doesn’t mean it was homicide.

Lourdes on January 14, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Is Robert Wagner a republican? Is that the problem here???

Blake on January 14, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Ha, yeah, I wonder about that, too.

Lourdes on January 14, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Is he related at all to Teddy Kenn…naw,I won’t go there.

But, one must now investigate why and how that first investigation was paid off by…er..so erroneous.

Don L on January 14, 2013 at 3:06 PM

I still have a boyhood crush on her…

Seven Percent Solution on January 14, 2013 at 3:06 PM

And, all of this Sturm und Drang because of what a guy wrote in a book. It has very little weight as evidence, especially since he waited a couple dozen years to say anything. Yes, the police screwed things up in ’81. But, as Ed says, unless someone comes forward and confesses, it’s all just so much hearsay.

GWB on January 14, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Wood’s demise seems to have been tragic but that doesn’t mean it was homicide.

Lourdes on January 14, 2013 at 3:02 PM

yup, those assault typical bruises must have been the work of barnacles ingorated by climate change….

Don L on January 14, 2013 at 3:07 PM

My money’s on Jack Lemmon, or else Peter Falk.

mojo on January 14, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Yes, the police screwed things up in ’81…

GWB on January 14, 2013 at 3:06 PM

L.A. County. They do that a lot. Still are.

Lourdes on January 14, 2013 at 3:08 PM

I don’t think Kennedy was in the car.

Dante on January 14, 2013 at 2:53 PM

lol.

Tim_CA on January 14, 2013 at 3:08 PM

The joke of the day was “What wood doesn’t float?”

right2bright on January 14, 2013 at 2:41 PM

her middle name is Drift…

right2bright on January 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Look, I’m all for a good joke, but that sort of tasteless humor so soon after someone’s death goes beyond the pale, and you should be banned!

justltl on January 14, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Looks good.

Sorry R2B, I was just practicing up on some faux outrage posting.
Funny stuff.
Carry on.

justltl on January 14, 2013 at 3:11 PM

Wood’s demise seems to have been tragic but that doesn’t mean it was homicide.

Lourdes on January 14, 2013 at 3:02 PM

yup, those assault typical bruises must have been the work of barnacles ingorated by climate change….

Don L on January 14, 2013 at 3:07 PM

If you’re struggling not to go under beside boats, which she was (fell or was pushed off a large boat where a smaller one was attached to it), then you’ll be trying to grab for a hand hold and trying to raise your legs/feet up to get out of the water against the smaller boat.

There was credible speculation that Wood tried to get off the large boat to get away from the argument, for whatever reason, and to get herself into the small boat that was floating alongside the yacht and then she slipped into the water while trying to enter the small boat floating alongside.

Seems reasonable if someone was thinking, “hey, I’m just going to take that small rowboat and go ashore so forget you.”

Lourdes on January 14, 2013 at 3:11 PM

It was the Illumanti with help from the Build-A-Bear Group!!!!!!

/Alex Jones listener

DethMetalCookieMonst on January 14, 2013 at 3:12 PM

I still have a boyhood crush on her…

Seven Percent Solution on January 14, 2013 at 3:06 PM

I knew guys that had a crush on the sub-par sister.

Oil Can on January 14, 2013 at 3:12 PM

PS: Even cute as a kid

mojo on January 14, 2013 at 3:14 PM

justltl on January 14, 2013 at 3:09 PM

lol…seems impossible that it was 31 years ago.

Damn I’m old.

Tim_CA on January 14, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Happy Nomad on January 14, 2013 at 2:55 PM

In case you haven’t heard, the Liz & Dick film was almost universally panned and trashed.

I saw part of it and I liked Ms. Lohan but I get a kick out of crazy women so long as I’m not married to them! I think the show needed about another 18 months of elbow grease on script and the impersonation of the characters, not just moving the “plot”. Ironically, Burton was a top player of historical figures and Ms. Taylor was no slouch, either. The public thinks that they knew Liz and Dick, so the whole project should have been approached with more trepidation.

Did you know George C. Scott needed therapy after the Patton role. I was told that they were both Marines. Of course, the guy who tole me that thought Alexander the Great was a US Marine.

Natalie Wood, This Property is Condemned.

IlikedAUH2O on January 14, 2013 at 3:18 PM

And?

Schadenfreude on January 14, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Well someone said Kennedy killed Mary Jo.

lol.

Tim_CA on January 14, 2013 at 3:08 PM

You know what’s funny? That a drunk could’ve driven a car into a lake at night, and had the composure and clarity to not only escape from a submerged, upside-down car, but to completely orient himself in pitch black water in order to surface. No, I think Mary Jo was the driver and I think she was alone in the car. Not originally, since they left the party together and then were spotted by a deputy. But I think the married Kennedy was trying to avoid a marital scandal. The only testimony is Kennedy’s, not exactly a trustworthy or reputable person.

Dante on January 14, 2013 at 3:20 PM

lol…seems impossible that it was 31 years ago.

Tim_CA on January 14, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Verily.
It seems like yesterday.

justltl on January 14, 2013 at 3:21 PM

I think this recent news is more than likely due to insurance and liability reasons and, of course, publicity incentive which will only “encourage” liability settlement/s.

Lourdes on January 14, 2013 at 2:57 PM

I not sure what insurance or liability reasons would surface now. It was originally ruled an accident in 81(?). If so any insurance was long ago collected. Statutes of limitation for fraud, if any, would have long since expired in regards to collecting the insurance payouts.

chemman on January 14, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Dante on January 14, 2013 at 3:20 PM

lol.

Tim_CA on January 14, 2013 at 3:26 PM

That a drunk could’ve driven a car into a lake at night, and had the composure and clarity to not only escape from a submerged, upside-down car, but to completely orient himself in pitch black water in order to surface.

Dante on January 14, 2013 at 3:20 PM

You can’t be serious?

http://phuketwan.com/tourism/phuket-six-lucky-escape-car-plunge-13049/

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/irishsun/4377312/.html

Two other teens, aged 16 and 19, who were in the car managed to swim ashore and miraculously escaped from the crash with only minor injuries at around 10.30pm on Friday.

sharrukin on January 14, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Look, I’m all for a good joke, but that sort of tasteless humor so soon after someone’s death goes beyond the pale, and you should be banned!

justltl on January 14, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Good afternoon Icabod. You out did your name sake and have been asleep for over 31 years. Natalie Woods died in a drowning accident/homicide 31 years ago.

chemman on January 14, 2013 at 3:28 PM

sharrukin on January 14, 2013 at 3:27 PM

lol…he’s just trolling

(even dante’s not that stupid)

Tim_CA on January 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Thomas Ince. Very nice!
You could have mentioned my fav, William Desmond Taylor, too.

vityas on January 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM

A preliminary comment on a preliminary report is inappropriate and ill advised.

And the time period’s effect on a case depends on the type and quality of evidence. Standing alone, it has no relation to reasonable doubt in a criminal case. The power to overlook evidence (the innate power to pardon) is always the prerogative of a jury. But, the passage of time, standing alone, is only that, a fact not bearing on guilt or innocence.

If so, the continuing clearance of cases unsolved for decades through use of improved testing methods in DNA cases, for example, would all be ending in acquittals. They’re not.

Unlike the LSM, perhaps we could wait for an actual report before declaring the result.

IndieDogg on January 14, 2013 at 3:32 PM

chemman on January 14, 2013 at 3:28 PM

pretty positive he’s being ironic.

Tim_CA on January 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM

…so there IS some HOPE for Fast & Furious and Bengahzi?

KOOLAID2 on January 14, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Dante on January 14, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Ted Kennedy was a high functioning alcoholic. The water was only 6 feet deep. He was an avid swimmer. It would have been remarkable if he had not survived.

Rocks on January 14, 2013 at 3:34 PM

lol…he’s just trolling

(even dante’s not that stupid)

Tim_CA on January 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Are you sure?

sharrukin on January 14, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Are you sure?

sharrukin on January 14, 2013 at 3:34 PM

um….no.

but one would sure hope.

Tim_CA on January 14, 2013 at 3:36 PM

I don’t think Kennedy was in the car.

Dante on January 14, 2013 at 2:53 PM

And?

Schadenfreude on January 14, 2013 at 3:01 PM

It was the driver on the grassy knoll.

RickB on January 14, 2013 at 3:39 PM

She took swimming lessons with William Shatner’s old lady.

Buttercup on January 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Sorry the DAs’ office out there would be after Wiley Post if the Will Rogers crash had happened in LA County.

They smell celebrity involvement?……..they are on it.

PappyD61 on January 14, 2013 at 4:00 PM

REAGAN!!!!

He probably cut Federal funding to police departments and then……..

I can hear CBS already…..”in the beginning REAGAN Administration there were massive federal cuts in spending for local police departments….”

PappyD61 on January 14, 2013 at 4:07 PM

I don’t think Kennedy was in the car.

Dante on January 14, 2013 at 2:53 PM

You’re an idiot.

Solaratov on January 14, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Entirely too sad.

Who killed Marilyn is a more interesting mystery, though.

trigon on January 14, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Squirrel!

Midas on January 14, 2013 at 4:16 PM

(even dante’s not that stupid)

Tim_CA on January 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Are you sure about that?

Solaratov on January 14, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Gorgeous girl and amazing actor. Anyone who watches movies must at one point in their life see many she appeared in. She was the child in the original Miracle on 34th Street. Breakfast at Tiffany’s of course. Splendor in the Grass, West Side Story, all must sees. But there are so many more too.

She played crazy well.

rose-of-sharon on January 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM

rose-of-sharon on January 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Audrey Hepburn starred in Breakfast at Tiffany’s, not Natalie Wood.

RDH on January 14, 2013 at 4:24 PM

right2bright on January 14, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Wagner asked her if she wanted to take a shower on board the boat, but she replied “No thanks, I’ll wash up on shore”.

Preemptive (proggie) apology: “Sorry if you’re offended.”

bofh on January 14, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Who killed Marilyn is a more interesting mystery, though.

trigon on January 14, 2013 at 4:14 PM

You know there is such a thing as a time portal or time machine blog where these people pretend to be dead icons. I fell into it on afternoon.

Marilyn was there. Elvis. Churchill.

I asked for an appointment with Bin Laden. I needed to get an Arabic keyboard. They said no.

So I asked for Vince Foster and to tell him that Dock Morris wanted to talk to him. They disconnected me.

Trying to help poor Dick Make a comeback…

IlikedAUH2O on January 14, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Manning is a whistleblower and a hero.

Dante on December 6, 2012 at 8:54 AM

M240H on January 14, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Yes. He is.

Dante on January 14, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Dick Cheney v Mother Jones

We need a ZERO DARK THIRTY thread on the torture issue, please.

I just had two guys on the left coast and remotely in the pop culture (movies) and a desk clerk in Richmond, VA go out of their way to tell me that torture and the Bush administration had nothing to do with the elimination of Bin Laden.

They say the public record is clear and heard hearing testimony saying the torture solved nothing and produced no leads.

IlikedAUH2O on January 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM

31 years to figure it out? Yeah, that’s law enforcement for you. No surprise.

Mr. Arrogant on January 14, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Most crimes go unsolved and a very large number go ignored, many not even classified as crimes such as crimes committed against citizens by cops.

woodNfish on January 14, 2013 at 4:42 PM

It doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to figure this out. Robert Wagner was angry at Natalie Wood for making out with Christopher Walken. Robert and Natalie then got into a fight. Robert then beats up Natalie and throws her overboard. It’s a damn shame that Robert Wagner is getting away this.

SoulGlo on January 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM

lol…he’s just trolling

(even dante’s not that stupid)

Tim_CA on January 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Wanna bet? :)

Anti-Control on January 14, 2013 at 5:07 PM

It doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to figure this out. Robert Wagner was angry at Natalie Wood for making out with Christopher Walken. Robert and Natalie then got into a fight. Robert then beats up Natalie and throws her overboard. It’s a damn shame that Robert Wagner is getting away this.

SoulGlo on January 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM

That’s kinda what I always thought, but why didn’t Walken step forward and say something? Also, what was his statement to the police?

This is what really bothers me; the elites (people in high positions, the rich, the famous) always seem to get a pass. Doesn’t matter what they do. Most recent example is David Gregory.

Mirimichi on January 14, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Whenever I have an argument with someone and assault them, I always go straight for the ankles and knees.

OxyCon on January 14, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Whenever I have an argument with someone and assault them, I always go straight for the ankles and knees.

OxyCon on January 14, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Exactly. What is there between an attractive womans knees that would interest anyone? /

sharrukin on January 14, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Just think of all THE MONEY that could be made with a movie!

Of course it would end with the same questions unanswered.

GarandFan on January 14, 2013 at 6:23 PM

“Splendor in the Grass” was both Wood’s and Warren Beatty’s best movie, IMO. So very haunting. Left me in a daze for couple hours after I saw it. Well worth the view… be ready to cry, and I don’t cry easy.

cane_loader on January 14, 2013 at 6:27 PM

No one will ever know. Sounds like Wagner and Wood had a violent fight. Russian girls are tough. She may have got him good enough to make him fight her hard, like a man. When someone is throwing bottles, etc., it’s not a normal slap fight, especially when drunk.

Unless Wagner really is a monster, even drunk, I doubt he intentionally threw her overboard. But a violent fight on a boat at night… there are plenty of things to trip over. Without witnesses, it’s all inconclusive. She may have taken a run at him and missed, etc. She may have threatened to take the dinghy to shore and he fought that, seeing as how she was bruised, and she fell.

Sad. Walken likely doesn’t know. I doubt Wagner would have told him anything but that it was accidental. Wagner likely does know how she ended up in the water, though…. unless it was a flat-out suicide, triggered by emotional upheaval.

cane_loader on January 14, 2013 at 6:33 PM

If she threw herself off the boat to prove a point, and he and she were drunk, she may not have factored in the down jacket, and he may have ignored her for a bit to prove a point – even argued from the boat while she was in the water – and when she went under he may not have been able to save her once his stupor cleared to realize that she wasn’t yelling at him anymore.

Total speculation on my part. Anything could have happened. So long ago.

cane_loader on January 14, 2013 at 6:38 PM

What’s the only wood that doesn’t float? Natalie Wood

micmac on January 14, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Bottom line is that drunk people can die in ways that sober ones usually don’t :(

cane_loader on January 14, 2013 at 6:44 PM

Same story I always heard, Wagner was fighting with Woods over a supposed affair with Walken. What Walken knows is anyones guess. Bruising on ankles, knees, wrists
always happens just prior to drowning accidentally.

Oh and Dante, you are truly an idiot to believe that Drunkard Kennedy was not drunk driving when he killed Mary-Jo. Yeah, she was driving that’s the ticket. Never heard that particular theory before.

D-fusit on January 14, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Same story I always heard, Wagner was fighting with Woods over a supposed affair with Walken. What Walken knows is anyones guess. Bruising on ankles, knees, wrists
always happens just prior to drowning accidentally.

D-fusit on January 14, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Well, that’s the nice version.

She was anorexic for the last few years, combined with alcohol and drug dependency.

The ugly story is menage a trois. Things go awry, and she dies.

You look at the list of people she dated, and she wasn’t a stranger to guys with weird tastes.

As a teen, she dated 40ish Raymond-Flaming-Burr, who was punching many a’clown at that point.

Tony Curtis, Warren Beatty, Dennis Hopper…Elvis?!?

So, yeah. I don’t have a hard time believing she was into some freaky-deaky things.

budfox on January 14, 2013 at 7:17 PM

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