The Republican war on Republicans
posted at 12:31 pm on January 13, 2013 by Jazz Shaw
The endless navel gazing following significant GOP losses in the last election is far from over, and not all of it is pointless. We have people talking about significant policy changes in the platform to make the Republican brand more salable in national races, as well as ideas geared toward expanding the tent and bringing in a more diverse voter base. But Scott Rasmussen has a new editorial out this week where he believes he’s identified another issue to be tackled. There are, as he states rather directly, a number of “establishment GOP” types in D.C. who seem to have determined that the big problem with the Republican Party is all of those Republican voters.
Politico explained that while Washington Democrats have always viewed GOP voters as a problem, Washington Republicans “in many a post-election soul-searching session” have come to agree. More precisely, the article said the party’s Election 2012 failures have “brought forth one principal conclusion from establishment Republicans: They have a primary problem.”
As seen from the halls of power, the problem is that Republican voters think it’s OK to replace incumbent senators and congressman who don’t represent the views of their constituents. In 2012, for example, Republican voters in Indiana dumped longtime Sen. Richard Lugar in a primary battle.
This infuriated establishment Republicans for two reasons. First, because they liked Lugar and the way he worked. Second, because the replacement candidate was flawed and allowed Democrats to win what should have been a safe Republican seat.
Scott goes on to say that observers are noticing a growing inclination in beltway GOP power centers to circle the wagons and make it harder for the unwashed masses to mount primary challenges to their media tested selections and proven winners. And I agree with his assessment that this is a fine strategy if your only concern is winning. But at what cost?
Before we get too carried away, let’s not throw the whole “winning” baby out with the bathwater here. If you don’t win, you don’t get to govern. But if your base feels that you’ve lost sight of your principles in the effort to win, they won’t turn out for you and the process becomes a self-defeating death spiral. By the same token, as difficult as it may be for some folks to accept, it is undeniable that the professional political class – or “the elite” as so many of you like to say – bring some important skills to the table.
Chief among these is the mountain of background research, tools, resources and experience required to conduct extensive vetting of new entrants to the political ring. While a rising red tide of grassroots enthusiasm for a new face is not only useful, but vital to a big win, the excitable hoi polloi are also frequently lacking in the ability to sort the wheat from the chaff. Critics like to point to some of the really high profile losers such as Christine O’Donnell whenever this discussion comes up, but it happens at lower levels all across the nation.
In a race which went virtually unreported, the newly redrawn NY-22 district saw a Tea Party challenge in the 2012 primary to a GOP incumbent who was viewed as being too far to the left. The challenger they selected was a local Tea Party leader who turned out to be an unemployed guy who had failed to even be elected mayor in his home village and had supposedly lost an earlier business he started for not paying his taxes. In this case it turned out that the incumbent went on to win the primary in a landslide and then beat the Democrat by a similar margin. But what if he hadn’t? A seat in a reliably Republican leaning district could have once again been lost and gone to a flunky of the previous Democratic incumbent once all the news came fully to light during the general election race.
That’s just one cautionary tale among many. So how does this relate to the point that Rasmussen is making? He offers hints of a solution which should be worth a look.
Mature party leaders would spend a lot more time listening to Republican voters rather than further insulating themselves from those voters. They would try to understand why just 37 percent of Republicans nationwide believe the economy is fair. They would give serious thought to why just half of GOP voters have a favorable opinion of House Speaker John Boehner, the highest-ranking elected Republican in the nation. They would acknowledge that government spending in America has gone up in every year since 1954 regardless of whether Republicans or Democrats are in charge.
Then mature party leaders would chart a realistic course to address these concerns and share those plans with the voters. To succeed, this course would have to include some painful medicine for the establishment, such as giving up corporate welfare programs that benefit their friends and allies. It also would require helping Republican voters identify primary candidates who challenge the establishment but could be effective on the campaign trail.
Tying these points together, D.C. Republican leaders can still hold on to their power and influence if they listen to those they are ostensibly leading and then use the tools at their disposal to work with grass roots activists rather than against them. If the voters are unhappy with an incumbent, fine. Don’t just fight them by backing the incumbent with unlimited money and then act sullen toward the challenger if they win. The better course is to get to work vetting the potential choices being put forth by the grass roots, pointing out lethal flaws if they exist and helping them identify challengers who are both ideologically palatable to the base and electable in the general race. It means not simply tamping down the impulse to keep fighting to the death for the status quo, but also demonstrating the strength to stand up to activists who are making untenable choices and saying, “Look, we hear you. But that’s not going to work. Let’s find someone who will.”
Or is that just crazy talk?
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Pelosi AND Rosa DeLauro? My eyes are bleeding.
steebo77 on May 16, 2013 at 7:17 PM
…DUMB B!TCH!
KOOLAID2 on May 16, 2013 at 7:18 PM
*shaking the head*
Get away from the koolaid
cmsinaz on May 16, 2013 at 7:19 PM
Is this even English?
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 16, 2013 at 7:19 PM
Look at all those milfs in the screen cap.
arnold ziffel on May 16, 2013 at 7:19 PM
…no…there is a ‘collection’ of ugly women!
KOOLAID2 on May 16, 2013 at 7:20 PM
‘Cuz ‘Draining the Swamp’ is only a priority when Maerose Prizzi is wielding her gigantic gavel.
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 7:21 PM
Excuuuse me… I think I just threw up in my mouth a little…
bigbeachbird on May 16, 2013 at 7:21 PM
She is completely delusional…”Great President”??? Who is that she speaks of? More proof that libs will protect their chosen one no matter what and the best interests of the country pale in comparison to what is good for the party. They just suck…
major dad on May 16, 2013 at 7:22 PM
This stuff actually leaks out to the low information American.
This is what they see (on TMZ, D-Listed, E-Tonight, etc) and their is no correction mechanism.
The MSM just lets it go.
aquaviva on May 16, 2013 at 7:22 PM
…I wouldn’t get near them!…’things’… would fall off!
KOOLAID2 on May 16, 2013 at 7:23 PM
God bless America as she rolls over and slips beneath the waves of history……….
dmann on May 16, 2013 at 7:23 PM
She sounds hoarse.Wondering what she has been doing to cause it.
docflash on May 16, 2013 at 7:23 PM
AP, It’s easy to understand once you understand that she and Obama are pathological liars! Being steeped in left wing ideas for so long does that to you.
They would even deny that the sun shines (while looking at it natch) during the day if it served their purpose! It’s a sickness.
geojed on May 16, 2013 at 7:24 PM
Heh heh heh heh. ….oh, Pelosi….
SailorMark on May 16, 2013 at 7:25 PM
actually, the Rs are using the time away from the glare of the TV camera to tidy up the Immigration Reform bill..the House version
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/house-immigration-bill-91499.html
i’m sure that once all these distracting scandals are cleaned up, the Rs will roll out the shiny new bill…all worked out and ready to vote on, up or down…and boom! it will be done. And then Rs can go back to their favorite work, getting $$$$$ from their business friends.
what a grand life they have…$$$$$ flooding in. Selecting new drapes, clinging to the old ones…whatever
r keller on May 16, 2013 at 7:25 PM
What she really meant to say…
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 7:25 PM
Jobs?
Evasions?
Pelosi is one of all Democrats evading the matter of jobs.
They long know how to make for a climate of job-creation. Instead, they do the opposite.
Camera time is more important than doing her job.
Liam on May 16, 2013 at 7:25 PM
Here’s a checklist to create jobs….
1.) Fire Obama
2.) Fire Pelosi
3.) Fire Reid
4.) Take back the Senate
5.) Repeal ObamaCare
6.) Abolish the IRS
7.) Abolish the EPA
8.) Abolish the NLRB
etc, etc, etc……
redguy on May 16, 2013 at 7:26 PM
Brace yourself, because HERE COME THE MOTHERFUGGING JOBS!
Chuck Schick on May 16, 2013 at 7:26 PM
btw, the comments at Politico are very funny…well, unless they’ve been moderated away
r keller on May 16, 2013 at 7:26 PM
Certifiable.
CW on May 16, 2013 at 7:27 PM
I believe that something may have been lost in translation from the original German, IYKWIMAITTYD.
turfmann on May 16, 2013 at 7:27 PM
Pelosi is sounding quite paranoid about what the Republicans are doing.
Dusty on May 16, 2013 at 7:27 PM
I’ waiting, wishing, and hoping for the day average low-information tyes say en masse, “I’ve had enough here!”
Liam on May 16, 2013 at 7:27 PM
…unemployment jobs?
KOOLAID2 on May 16, 2013 at 7:28 PM
As to Nancy Pelosi-
What SWalker said.
M240H on May 16, 2013 at 7:28 PM
She’s not worried at all about Republicans.
She’s worried about what 315 million other Americans are going to first think, and then might do.
Liam on May 16, 2013 at 7:29 PM
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 7:30 PM
Saw this clip on tv earlier, she’s also shaky and had odd head movements. Could be Parkinson’s or just old-fashioned senility.
On the other hand, the Pelosis own a winery or two, so maybe she’s drunk.
slickwillie2001 on May 16, 2013 at 7:32 PM
Yep. It’s time for a national divorce so that America can be started over. There is repairing this American Socialist Superstate. The game is well over for this place.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 16, 2013 at 7:32 PM
What, she’s all about jobs now? I thought she was all about the glorious economic value of unemployment checks.
Expel the illegals and you’ll have 20 million new job openings. Your employer will need to give you a raise to keep you from quitting and filling one of those jobs.
There would be wage-based inflation that would shrink the gap between rich and poor a little bit. Employers would even need to offer benefits like health insurance to keep employees. This along with taxes on imports is the solution.
Buddahpundit on May 16, 2013 at 7:33 PM
…unemployment jobs?
KOOLAID2 on May 16, 2013 at 7:28 PM
well unemployment IS a great driver of the economy.
Grunt on May 16, 2013 at 7:34 PM
I’m not ;-) I have so much to say about this .
So Allah, no ban hammer for one hour ???
Pleeeeeeeeeeeese :O
burrata on May 16, 2013 at 7:34 PM
I’m ready for this woman’s demise. Eager, even.
Midas on May 16, 2013 at 7:37 PM
You forgot the Gheys!
Hell, you posted 1 million threads on it.
bazil9 on May 16, 2013 at 7:37 PM
Beyond time.
Midas on May 16, 2013 at 7:38 PM
and food stamps create jobs , remember ?
burrata on May 16, 2013 at 7:38 PM
Liberals are, by nature, abusive people.
We see that with Obama and the Senate.
When out of power, like is Pelosi, they go nuts. Which makes them more abusive.
Nancy can’t stand being where she is right now. She is so low, even among Democrats, that she’s seriously upset, internally.
She used to be House Speaker. What is she now? In the greater scheme of things, even among Dem politicians, she’s nothing.
Reality doesn’t sit well with her.
Liam on May 16, 2013 at 7:39 PM
Slightlt OT, but the House Gang of Six has reached a deal on Shmanesty. At least this bill has to go through Goodlatte’s committee.
Wethal on May 16, 2013 at 7:39 PM
Can we all agree that gun legislation is off the table?
mjbrooks3 on May 16, 2013 at 7:40 PM
Uh oh. I reported myself about 138 times back in 2009.
steebo77 on May 16, 2013 at 7:40 PM
Is that Kieth Richards on the left, wearing a dress and talking to Renee Zellweger??
Mimzey on May 16, 2013 at 7:42 PM
Senility and Botox are taking their toll on Nancy-poo.
GarandFan on May 16, 2013 at 7:42 PM
How are the Democrats’ obsessions with gun control and legalizing illegal immigration helping with the “jobs” issue?
farsighted on May 16, 2013 at 7:42 PM
More than that. She implying the GOP is in their way, trying to keep them from attending to what’s important.
Axe on May 16, 2013 at 7:43 PM
Never think it is. Dems and other liberals want guns out of our hands — out of the hands of the law-abiding.
Liam on May 16, 2013 at 7:44 PM
Hey, you forgot the /sarc tag on THAT….
Sarah Palin: Totally Hot Milf…
Pelosi & Co: Totally Hot Mess…
BlaxPac on May 16, 2013 at 7:44 PM
Everything out of this woman’s mouth is a joke..she really needs to retire.
celt on May 16, 2013 at 7:47 PM
Just pretend to be a troll.
slickwillie2001 on May 16, 2013 at 7:47 PM
“IRS” and “Evasion” in the same sentence, well played Senorita Natzi…
hillsoftx on May 16, 2013 at 7:47 PM
Embarrassing…ugh.
d1carter on May 16, 2013 at 7:48 PM
Never one to be particularly coherent, she is really coming off her hinges. If this goes on much longer she is going to be reduced to babbling, drooling, diaper-wearing idjit.
novaculus on May 16, 2013 at 7:48 PM
Pelosi served as Speaker of the House from January 4, 2007 – January 3, 2011.
Compare the following BLS measurements from the last full month before Pelosi (December 2006) to the last full month of her time as Speaker (December 2010).
Pelosi’s record is one of destroying jobs (with three hikes in the minimum wage, TARP, Porkulus, Cash for Clunkers, OBAMACARE, etc.), not creating jobs.
Pelosi didn’t create jobs, she created over a Million more discouraged workers, and several Million more unemployed.
ITguy on May 16, 2013 at 7:51 PM
At least the House voted to repeal Ocare, today.
229-195.
pambi on May 16, 2013 at 7:51 PM
That requires a lobotomy, lots of pot, dressing in tights, and living in mommy’s basement.
Don’t you understand what it means to be liberal?
Liam on May 16, 2013 at 7:52 PM
IN CHARGE DURING ‘TEA PARTY’ TARGETING, NOW RUNS IRS OBAMACARE OFFICE
WTH…I don’t even know what to say.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/irs-official-in-charge-during-tea-party-targeting-now-runs-health-care-office/
Zcat on May 16, 2013 at 7:52 PM
This….
Tilly on May 16, 2013 at 7:52 PM
This is the same broad that proclaimed that unemployment benefits would drive the economy to new heights.
JimK on May 16, 2013 at 7:53 PM
How about a Dem senate that didn’t write a
budget for years, POS.
Too busy? Doing what? Oh yes..OB Care and playing with themselves..writing letters to the IRS to take down citizens..preparing lies and deals.
Jobs? I thought we were recovering and OB care
your train wreck is going to create millions of jobs! Now that business will have more ash to hire instead of paying for bene’s.
Who cares about Bengazi, or our ambassador,troops,The corruption/stomping on the constitution, and the hammer and sickle at the IRS-threats, intimidation-supply guns to heinous cartels- Er no!..jobs-(that is rich)..birth control, more birth control gheys, poor immigrants.
I hate this bi$ch!
bazil9 on May 16, 2013 at 7:54 PM
Ugly is the final frontier of civil rights — Ralph Nader
J_Crater on May 16, 2013 at 7:55 PM
When you get down to it, especially in Washington politics, Pelosi is a nothing.
She may get invited to all the hip social events but, in the end, she has to go begging for support.
When Speaker, she could make deals. Now, as a nothing, I imagine what she hears a lot is, “There’s nothing you can do for me. No deal.”
Liam on May 16, 2013 at 7:56 PM
Gotta love him …..
pambi on May 16, 2013 at 7:57 PM
OT: This WSJ article is going to leave a mark…a hope the author is okay?
d1carter on May 16, 2013 at 8:04 PM
Excuse me. Those are not MILFs. They’re MULFs. Each to his own taste.
flataffect on May 16, 2013 at 8:05 PM
Pelosi said that large annual deficits are a NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE and promised, both in writing and from the House Speaker’s rostrum “no more deficit spending”:
Again, Pelosi promised no more deficit spending.
Pelosi promised that both in writing (above) and live on C-SPAN:
Last budget passed by a Republican House, Republican Senate, and Republican President: FY 2007.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid (along with then-Senators Obama, Biden, and Clinton) took majority control of the budgeting process starting with FY 2008.
FY 2007 Deficit: $160.7 Billion
FY 2008 Deficit: $458.6 Billion
FY 2009 Deficit: $1,412.7 Billion
The FY 2009 budget, passed by the Nancy Pelosi House, the Harry Reid Senate, and signed by pResident Obama (that’s right, it wan’t Bush) “featured” an annual deficit that was 8.8 times the size of the annual deficit produced by the Republican majority just two years earlier for FY 2007.
And for Pelosi’s final two Fiscal Years (FY 2010 and the start of FY 2011) NO BUDGET WAS PASSED AT ALL!
But here are the deficit numbers from those Fiscal Years (as reported by the White House OMB):
FY 2010 Deficit: $1,293.5 Billion
FY 2011 Deficit: $1,299.6 Billion
After all those promises of “no more deficit spending”, Pelosi inherited a budget deficit under $161 Billion and created the four largest deficits in U.S. history, averaging $1,116 Billion ($1.116 TRILLION) per year… nearly SEVEN TIMES the size of the deficit she inherited.
So, let’s recap:
Under Pelosi, unemployment more than doubled.
Under Pelosi, discouraged workers more than quadrupled (almost quintupled).
Under Pelosi, deficits were supposed to go to zero (the implication of her promise of “no more deficit spending”), but instead grew to SEVEN TIMES the size.
ITguy on May 16, 2013 at 8:08 PM
Speaking of jobs, today’s number is 360,000 – the seasonally-adjusted number of people filing for initial jobless claims between May 5 and May 11. Oh yeah – had last year’s seasoning been applied, it would have been 365K instead of 360K.
Steve Eggleston on May 16, 2013 at 8:09 PM
Jay Leno last night: “It’s been a rough week for Obama. A lot of critics are comparing President Obama to President Richard Nixon, which is not fair. Nixon’s unemployment rate was only 5 percent.”
http://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show/video/monologue-part-1/n36932/
J.S.K. on May 16, 2013 at 8:11 PM
Another example of congressional inbreeding.
ThePrez on May 16, 2013 at 8:15 PM
Imagine where this country would be if Obama and Pelosi got everything they wanted. Obamacare would only be a start.
hepcat on May 16, 2013 at 8:15 PM
F***ing harridan. Even our last loser, Walt Minnick (D), said he wasn’t aware of how looney toons this broad was until he actually got to DC.
I wish she and that loser Reid would just retire and go the hell away.
sage0925 on May 16, 2013 at 8:16 PM
Thanks…now I’m gonna have nightmares tonight.
sage0925 on May 16, 2013 at 8:17 PM
Madame,take this advice. Hamlet Act 3, scene 1,121
Mason on May 16, 2013 at 8:25 PM
Number of the Day Part Two – -5.2, the Philly Fed business index for the Mid-Atlantic states in May. Zero Hedge notes it was worse than the lowest forecast (the average was +2.0, which would have been up from April’s +1.3), and that it mirrors the NY Fed’s Empire Manufacturing index for May of -1.4 (versus expectations of +3.5).
Hang on, folks; it’s going to be a bumpy ride.
Steve Eggleston on May 16, 2013 at 8:26 PM
Leno’s rich enough to not care about an IRS audit.
slickwillie2001 on May 16, 2013 at 8:26 PM
Wonder what happened to the chant “Where are the Jobs?”. Doesn’t take long for these republican political hacks to change the subject does it?
HotAirLib on May 16, 2013 at 8:27 PM
What a bunch of mutts in that video…..
crosshugger on May 16, 2013 at 8:27 PM
Pelosi, I think you need to up your meds, your delusional thinking is getting worst.
Beastdogs on May 16, 2013 at 8:29 PM
Yep.
O_o <—you know what goes here.
SparkPlug on May 16, 2013 at 8:31 PM
I’m shocked, SHOCKED!
Steve Eggleston on May 16, 2013 at 8:33 PM
WTF? I thought you got killed in htat plane crash Mohammed Atta.
arnold ziffel on May 16, 2013 at 8:35 PM
I may start watching the NFL now. Speaking of piss-
Eagles OL Evan Mathis Peeing on IRS Building Sign
bazil9 on May 16, 2013 at 8:44 PM
This argument isn’t going to help her much. Conservatives don’t believe a word she says and liberals don’t want jobs.
Cara C on May 16, 2013 at 8:44 PM
distracting everyone with an elven dryad on the team
John Kettlewell on May 16, 2013 at 8:50 PM
Gallup: 74% Of Americans Want IRS Scandal Investigated Further
69% Want Benghazi Follow Up…
http://shar.es/Zs4Wf
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 8:58 PM
Term limits, please.
Jocundus on May 16, 2013 at 9:13 PM
Dear Nancy,
Just watched “Oz.” The witch was prettier than you. And smarter, too. Retire already, will you!
EB
EdmundBurke247 on May 16, 2013 at 9:23 PM
Dear Lord thank you for sparing my family from the deadly tornados that passed closely to my house last night. I know I shouldnt ask for another favor so soon but please just one lightning bolt placed strategically on Nanzi’s head….pretty please?
neyney on May 16, 2013 at 9:28 PM
I bet Nancy thinks she rides a unicorn to work…
jjjdad on May 16, 2013 at 9:38 PM
So where are the 600,000 jobs that she said extending unemployment benefits would create? Oh wait, they cancelled those benefits, didn’t they? That “macroeconomic impact” isn’t all it’s cracked up to be, eh?
stukinIL4now on May 16, 2013 at 10:10 PM
She makes s much sense as that little girl on that commercial who yammers on about “more is better than less because blah, blah ,blah….”
DWoDiego on May 16, 2013 at 10:29 PM
Two words…term limits.
fight like a girl on May 16, 2013 at 10:29 PM
Nancy, Nancy, Nancy! You have to open investigations to find out what’s in them! What a crew with her; it looks like a lineup in a house haunting investigation.
Our ‘government’ has devolved into the scandal of the day club. We could hire a couple of third grade classes and get a better job done for way less. And these people are our ‘leaders’? They can’t even think up a half-assed excuse when caught – Holder, “I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know” and at the same time claiming he recused himself because “He had knowledge”.
ghostwalker1 on May 16, 2013 at 10:45 PM
Mental retardation is not a laughing matter.
Myron Falwell on May 17, 2013 at 2:46 AM
What? Is that a poster for The Ugliest Wh0rehouse in DC…?
JohnGalt23 on May 17, 2013 at 3:20 AM
No, they extended the 99-week benefits through the end of the year at the end of last year. The jobs, however, aren’t exactly showing up.
Steve Eggleston on May 17, 2013 at 7:31 AM
Can I send you the bill for the ruined keyboard from the coffee spit out as I read that!!!!
acyl72 on May 17, 2013 at 7:53 AM
Will someone …. ANYONE …. please throw a bucket of water on her already & give her broomstick to the wizard?!
easyt65 on May 17, 2013 at 8:34 AM
In addition to term limits we need age limits. There are far to many pols that seem to be demented or senile.
Dr. Frank Enstine on May 17, 2013 at 8:45 AM
This coming from a woman who a few years ago claimed that under GW Bush the US lost 500 Million Jobs….the country does not even have that many people. Damn what a dumbo!!!
logicman_1998 on May 17, 2013 at 10:01 AM
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