Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on January 13, 2013 by Allahpundit

Conservative ideas work. Numerous states are demonstrating that low taxes, right-to-work laws, school choice, energy development and other common-sense policies improve the lives of everyone. Conversely, progressive central planning has failed throughout history and is still failing today…

One lesson I learned in marketing is that, for consumers and voters, perception is reality.

November’s election results and exit polls suggest that a majority of Americans agree that government does too much yet still voted for more of it. The election taught conservatives that we can no longer entrust political parties to carry our message.

We must take our case to the people ourselves, and we must start where all good marketing starts: with research. Conservative policies have proved their worth time and time again. If we’re not communicating in a way that makes that clear, we are doing a disservice to our fellow citizens. We need to test the market and our message to communicate more effectively.

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DeMint’s opinion piece represents a broader sentiment within the conservative movement, that its establishment leaders simply lack the ability to point a way out of the political wilderness.

The rise of taxman (or, more accurately, anti-taxman) Grover Norquist and the ongoing power of radio talker Rush Limbaugh affirm that the power center of the GOP increasingly rests outside of its elected leaders. (That shrinking of establishment power was never more evident than when Speaker John Boehner was unable to find enough votes for his “Plan B” that would have exempted all but those making $1 million or more from a tax increase.)…

The weakening of political parties is a long-term process — driven by the growth of the Internet and its capacity/influence as an organizing and fundraising tool. But, the fissure within the Republican party between its party leadership and its base (and those figures tied to the base) has accelerated that movement.

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Fact No. 1 is to realize a political party isn’t a church nor a cult but a mechanism to get diverse people who share some things in common to work toward a common position of power that none could achieve on their own. Fact No. 2 is that unless you can convert your principles into actual policies, standing upon them does no one a favor. If you believe in your principles but can’t convert others, you are not an asset. If you antagonize them, you and your principles are a real liability, and perhaps you should shut the hell up.

Fact No. 2 is that because no coalition big enough to win power can ever be pure or completely united, and no pure wing or segment can be big enough to win or rule on its own, it is in everyone’s interest to cherish the mavericks. Each party needs members who vote with them sometimes. Conservatives dreamed of the day they could rid themselves of the Snowes, Lugars and Castles; that day has come, and they and their party are weaker than ever. Many conservatives would kill now to have those seats back.

Sometime soon, before the debt ceiling crisis writes a thrilling new chapter, Republicans should sit down together and try to agree on four things: to name the shared goals that they want to move forward; to decide what to do to in a practical manner (in the real world, not an imagined alternative); to find their best spokesmen, and have him (or her) speak for them all; and to remember exactly who their real enemies are — who, in the real world, are not themselves.

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If you are conservative you are skeptical of concentrated power. You know the bullying and bossism it can lead to. Republicans should go to the populist right on the issue of bank breakup. Too big to fail is too big to continue. The megabanks have too much power in Washington and too much weight within the financial system. People think the GOP is for the bankers. The GOP should upend this assumption. In this case good policy is good politics.

If you are a conservative you’re supposed to be for just treatment of the individual over the demands of concentrated elites. Every individual in America making $400,000 a year or more just got a tax hike that was a blow to the gut. Regular working people are seeing their payroll deductions increase. But private-equity partners who make billions enjoy more favorable tax treatment. Their income is treated for tax purposes as a capital gain, so they’re taxed at far lower rates. This is called the carried interest exemption, and everybody knows it’s a big con.

The Republican Party should come out against it in a big way. Let the real rich pay the same percentage the not-actually-rich-but-formally-declared-rich are paying. If the Republicans did this they’d actually be joining the winning side, because carried interest will not survive the new era. If congressional Republicans care about their party they’ll want it to get credit for fairness, as opposed to the usual blame for being lackeys of the rich.

Republicans make too much of order and discipline. Sometimes a little anarchy is a good thing, a little disorder a sign of creativity and independence of thought.

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The GOP should spend 2013 rebuilding an agenda based on a defense of family. It should couple that with an aggressive attack on cronyism, pivoting the GOP as the outsiders’ party…

The Republicans must have serious tax reform ideas. Those ideas should start with a much flatter tax with far fewer deductions. Those deductions should favor married couples with kids making it easier for one spouse to stay home through high deductions for a household with one earner. But likewise, the Republicans should consider in a two income household of joint filers, the second income earner should pay less tax on that income.

While the default rule should always be to never use the tax code to encourage or prohibit behavior — it should just be about raising revenue — as long as Washington intends to do that, the Republicans should favor a tax code that rewards two parent nuclear households with multiple children and, through the use of generous deductions, provide incentive for one spouse to stay home. That would not only help reduce the supply of workers in the workforce at a time of decreased demand for workers, but would also ease the burden of the social safety net.

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By all means, Republicans should fight to keep spending as low as possible and block new efforts to expand the reach of government. And they should continue to present a vision for reform in bills that they can pass through the House. Let Obama propose his outrageous budget, and counter with a House-passed budget that actually addresses the nation’s spending problem. Haggle over the numbers and details, attack the Senate for their failure to pass a budget, and then cut the best deal possible. Laying out a governing agenda would give them something to build on if they can retake the Senate in 2014 and gain the presidency in 2016. And it would avoid the spectacle of trying to make the case for small government at a time when financial markets are freaking out because the debt ceiling hasn’t been raised and when there’s no hope of enacting their preferred policies anyway.

Conservatives should recognize that even though they can block key items of the liberal agenda with control of the House, they cannot advance the conservative agenda with Obama as president and Harry Reid as Senate Majority Leader. With this in mind, it’s short-sighted to advocate a strategy whereby Republicans dig in their heels at every opportunity in exchange for a few crumbs of concessions from Obama, at best. This strategy risks lasting damage to the conservative brand that will prevent real reform.

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Meanwhile, Obama is preparing to prioritize immigration reform on his second-term agenda, a move that would do as much to divide the GOP as it would to score points among Hispanic voters. It would threaten to engulf the GOP in a heated internal debate that would make the fiscal-cliff arguments seem like child’s play. Immigration sparked the beginning of the Republican rebellion from George W. Bush, well before the tea party emerged as a GOP force. And the wave of tea party-aligned freshmen, most representing homogeneous districts, aren’t at all inclined to embrace positions they once railed against. Most Republican strategists believe that, without a jump in support from the growing Hispanic population, the GOP could become a permanent minority party—and immigration reform is the ticket to win them over. But they would acknowledge that quickly adding more Hispanics to the voter rolls could further damage the Republican party’s long-term standing as well. Conservative talker Sean Hannity, the day after the 2012 election, reversed course and came out for some version of comprehensive immigration reform; the next day on his radio show, Rush Limbaugh doubled down on his opposition…

I’ve long been skeptical about the feasibility of a third party, but I’m beginning to entertain the possibility that the GOP could become split apart as these policy debates come to the fore. It was only three years ago that pundits viewed the tea party movement as a legitimate third-party threat in the heat of their activism; instead, activists worked from within to nominate like-minded candidates and press their agenda.

Is it that much of a stretch to believe that, by 2016, the grassroots base will have taken control of the Republican Party, and the establishment will be looking to bolt?

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Ladies.

Bmore on January 13, 2013 at 8:02 PM

…Republicans beatin up each other has to hit 500 first!

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 8:04 PM

Sorry wrong thread.

Bmore on January 13, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Allow me to start over.

Bmore on January 13, 2013 at 8:05 PM

The way forward.

But I want to go back.

Bmore on January 13, 2013 at 8:06 PM

…We need Sarah Palin (:->)

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Conservatism is not catching on well with some of tour fellow citizens.

Bmore on January 13, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Ladies.

Bmore on January 13, 2013 at 8:02 PM

…they need to ban the rape busses in India too!

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 8:08 PM

tour=our, that didn’t take long.

Bmore on January 13, 2013 at 8:08 PM

…think we can get Pelosi, Boxer, Fienstien, Waters, Jackson etc…to ride the bus in India?

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 8:09 PM

Kool, looks like its just you and me left brother. How you doing Kool? All good with you?

Bmore on January 13, 2013 at 8:10 PM

have the retards Obama voters found this thread yet?

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Some still make the mistake of considering the GOP as conservative…

d1carter on January 13, 2013 at 8:10 PM

…think we can get Pelosi, Boxer, Fienstien, Waters, Jackson etc…to ride the bus in India?

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 8:09 PM

I think India would nuke us if we did… Can’t say I would blame them either… o_O

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:11 PM

…yeah…watched the games and the nuts on the Republican beating off Republicans all day!

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 8:11 PM

My poor beloved Pack. : (

Bmore on January 13, 2013 at 8:12 PM

Conservative talker Sean Hannity, the day after the 2012 election, reversed course and came out for some version of comprehensive immigration reform; the next day on his radio show, Rush Limbaugh doubled down on his opposition…

Rush Limbaugh = Patriot

Sean Hannity = Useful Idiot.

VorDaj on January 13, 2013 at 8:13 PM

Bmore on January 13, 2013 at 8:10 PM

…yeah…watched the games and the nuts on the Republican beating off Republicans all day!

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 8:11 PM

…that was answering Bmore…we thought we were alone!

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Conservatives should recognize that even though they can block key items of the liberal agenda with control of the House, they cannot advance the conservative agenda with Obama as president and Harry Reid as Senate Majority Leader.

So if all they can do is block, they should block with all of their power. I’m getting tired of all of the politicians arguing over who gets to sit where at the Captain’s table of the Titanic as it’s sinking. Do something positive, even if it’s keeping the other side from doing something negative.

RoadRunner on January 13, 2013 at 8:14 PM

So if all they can do is block, they should block with all of their power. I’m getting tired of all of the politicians arguing over who gets to sit where at the Captain’s table of the Titanic as it’s sinking. Do something positive, even if it’s keeping the other side from doing something negative.

RoadRunner on January 13, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Some people think the only solution is to put the engines at full speed ahead, since we’re going to hit the iceberg anyway might as well do as much damage as possible.

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:17 PM

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 8:14 PM

No, I caught it. Who you want in the bowl?

Bmore on January 13, 2013 at 8:17 PM

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 8:14 PM

No, I caught it. Who you want in the bowl?

Bmore on January 13, 2013 at 8:17 PM

You guys aren’t going to start in with all that annoying chit-chat stuff now are you?

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Bill Palmer of BeatWeek.com says ‘shoot all gun owners’

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1420924_Editor_in_Chief_of_beatweek_com_just_replied_to_me_on_Twitter.html

rayra on January 13, 2013 at 8:19 PM

No, I caught it. Who you want in the bowl?

Bmore on January 13, 2013 at 8:17 PM

…a red state (Georgia)…not a socialist state (the rest of the litter).

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 8:20 PM

Conservative ideas work. Numerous states are demonstrating that low taxes, right-to-work laws, school choice, energy development and other common-sense policies improve the lives of everyone.

Yet Germany and other northern European nations underperform US southern states on all the measures you listed, yet the citizens of those countries exceed their American peers on literally every measure- from household income, to quality of healthcare, to quality of life as reflected by vacation time and life expectancy.

People in wealthier states aren’t going to accept the proposal that the slightly higher taxes of the Clinton era prove that low tax rates must be pursued at the cost of all other priorities. Simple maxims and talking points don’t solve complex problems. More than ever, American voters was pragmatism, not ideologues in public office.

bayam on January 13, 2013 at 8:21 PM

You guys aren’t going to start in with all that annoying chit-chat stuff now are you?

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:19 PM

I got nothin. ; ) Go Falcons!?!?!

Bmore on January 13, 2013 at 8:21 PM

Bill Palmer of BeatWeek.com says ‘shoot all gun owners’

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1420924_Editor_in_Chief_of_beatweek_com_just_replied_to_me_on_Twitter.html

rayra on January 13, 2013 at 8:19 PM

ROTFLMAO…Ole Billy boy aint all that bright is he… Gun owners=People with Guns. Shoot at someone with a guns and they are damned likely to shoot back. Wonder if ole Billy boy thought about that?

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:22 PM

ideologues in public office.

bayam on January 13, 2013 at 8:21 PM

…eating hay all day…and now you have to pooh?

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 8:23 PM

Conservatives dreamed of the day they could rid themselves of the Snowes, Lugars and Castles; that day has come, and they and their party are weaker than ever. Many conservatives would kill now to have those seats back.

C’mon.

Cleombrotus on January 13, 2013 at 8:25 PM

Evening Peeps!

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Conservatives dreamed of the day they could rid themselves of the Snowes, Lugars and Castles; that day has come, and they and their party are weaker than ever. Many conservatives would kill now to have those seats back

…I’m not having any wet dreams!

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Evening Peeps!

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:26 PM

S’up Ken…

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Evening Peeps!

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:26 PM

…Hi BO!

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 8:29 PM

But, the fissure within the Republican party between its party leadership and its base (and those figures tied to the base) has accelerated that movement.

If you are conservative you are skeptical of concentrated power. You know the bullying and bossism it can lead to.

Republicans make too much of order and discipline. Sometimes a little anarchy is a good thing, a little disorder a sign of creativity and independence of thought.

Great take-aways from 2nites quotes…someone should show these to Ed.

Tim_CA on January 13, 2013 at 8:29 PM

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Lazy Sunday. Pretty early QOTD…

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM

Kool., Bmore….

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:31 PM

Lazy Sunday. Pretty early QOTD…

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM

…the cat’s gotta play!

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 8:32 PM

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Lazy Sunday. Pretty early QOTD…

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM

ROTFLMAO… I think AP was trying to end the blood letting over on the Red on Red Thread… o_O

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:33 PM

a big part of the problem is that we have people like Noonan who often have no clue what they are talking about. This is not helpful when the average voter is semi-literate in all things financial and all things that involve numbers.

Unfortunately the Left is unencumbered with logic or integrity…so, like Rangel, they can pretend to be against carried interest. The brighter bulbs in the Left, like Schumer would squeal like a right wing hillbilly if he were the final vote to abolish it….squealing because his buds (and all real estate people and other partnerships) would be savaged

http://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/071107testes1.pdf

in a country with a leftist and ignorant press, we have to suffer thru this…but please peggy…do your homework

r keller on January 13, 2013 at 8:33 PM

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 8:32 PM

I know. Could be a while before the ladies get here.

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:33 PM

You guys aren’t going to start in with all that annoying chit-chat stuff now are you?

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:19 PM

man the weather’s really been somethin’

Tim_CA on January 13, 2013 at 8:34 PM

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Didn’t get in on that. The GOP civil war is a tired subject. BO just wants to fan flames.

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:35 PM

You guys aren’t going to start in with all that annoying chit-chat stuff now are you?

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:19 PM

man the weather’s really been somethin’

Tim_CA on January 13, 2013 at 8:34 PM

19 degrees here last night… Tad bit nippy…

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:35 PM

There is nothing the GOP can do to win. The game is over. The only way to win is to refute the game itself.

Moldbug and not DeMint is your only hope.

ninjapirate on January 13, 2013 at 8:35 PM

Our focus as conservatives right now is to deal with the fiscal irresponsibility that will eventually turn this nation into a mess if we don’t correct it. The Dems want to distract from their fiscal nightmare and unwillingness to do anything effective about it by talking about immigration, birth control, guns etc. etc. etc. We have to focus on what brings us together rather than let the Dems and the media have us focus on what divides people.

The public wants to cut spending. They do not want to raise taxes. We are with the people on those issues lets ride that issue to victory in 2014 and beyond.

KW64 on January 13, 2013 at 8:36 PM

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:35 PM

high of 50 here today (Austin)

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:36 PM

I want an H&R .45-70.

wolly4321 on January 13, 2013 at 8:37 PM

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Didn’t get in on that. The GOP civil war is a tired subject. BO just wants to fan flames.

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:35 PM

BWAHAHAHAH… I’m not a Republican… I was over there throwing bricks at everyone… ;p

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:37 PM

KCB ; ) I’m told on good authority I’m wandering aimlessly.

Bmore on January 13, 2013 at 8:37 PM

I want an H&R .45-70.

wolly4321 on January 13, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Ahhhh….but do you really need it?

Bmore on January 13, 2013 at 8:38 PM

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Glad you don’t posses a high capacity brick magazine. Imagine the massacre….

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:38 PM

Hayley Barbour on Colin Powell, “He sees things through his own prism”

Painfully obvious, isn’t it? And the Republicans are supposed to reorganize themselves according to that prism unless they want to get “left behind”?

Leave me behind, will ya’?

Cleombrotus on January 13, 2013 at 8:39 PM

They’re $299.99 from Cabelas.

wolly4321 on January 13, 2013 at 8:40 PM

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Glad you don’t posses a high capacity brick magazine. Imagine the massacre….

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:38 PM

ROTFLMAO… No kidding, it was brutal even without one. o_O

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Bmore on January 13, 2013 at 8:37 PM

I know. Good thing we have our betters to tell us these things.

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Evenin’.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 13, 2013 at 8:40 PM

19 degrees here last night… Tad bit nippy…

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:35 PM

low 40′s here last night….had to force the dog outside to pee …she’s socal born & bread…and not amused.

Tim_CA on January 13, 2013 at 8:40 PM

ROTFLMAO… I think AP was trying to end the blood letting over on the Red on Red Thread… o_O

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:33 PM

…no…slowing down…but still slashing each others wrists…good place for you…

bayam

… to go donkey!

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Most Republican strategists believe that, without a jump in support from the growing Hispanic population, the GOP could become a permanent minority party—and immigration reform is the ticket to win them over. But they would acknowledge that quickly adding more Hispanics to the voter rolls could further damage the Republican party’s long-term standing as well.

How did Ronald Reagan’s amnesty work out for Republicans in California?

I don’t care about the GOP. I care about my own interests… and illegal immigrants from Latin America do absolutely nothing for me and in the long term hurt the prospects my future children and grandchildren.

ninjapirate on January 13, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Hi Twerp! How are you today?

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:41 PM

bred

Tim_CA on January 13, 2013 at 8:41 PM

They’re $299.99 from Cabelas.

wolly4321 on January 13, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Owwwwww, are they shiny too? <—- heads over to Cabelas for a high capacity brick magazine… ;p

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:41 PM

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:35 PM

low 40′s here last night….had to force the dog outside to pee …she’s socal born & bread…and not amused.

Tim_CA on January 13, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Tell me about it, had to take mine out for a drag… cause he didn’t even want to go out… ;p

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Optimism is Cowardice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwF9hk8WAac

ninjapirate on January 13, 2013 at 8:43 PM

Hi Twerp! How are you today?

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:41 PM

‘K. Bro’s been in contact w/ me-using his wife as a go-between. Everyone seems to be on the same page. After this is all straightened out we’ll probably never ‘talk’ again.
His loss.
*sneer*

annoyinglittletwerp on January 13, 2013 at 8:43 PM

None of this matters. Boehner is the most dangerous man in the USA.

He keeps re-authorizing the 800 billion stimulus every year, using CRs. That’s why Dingy Harry won’t pass a budget – it would be exposed. Using a CR means you don’t see that the last budget passed by Congress put the stimulus into the baseline, meaning it gets reauthorized every new CR (with COLA added).

But it isn’t allocated. It’s like a gift card of 800 billion which gets recharged with another 800 billion every year. Without any allocation so it can be spent on anything Jugears wants.

The biggest slush fund anybody has ever seen. Boehner knows this so it’s him making half of the deficit happen every year.

Until this fact gets widespread publicity, we will stay on the path of no growth because each year starts with a trillion dollars in the hole.

platypus on January 13, 2013 at 8:43 PM

It’s freezing here – I hate winter.

Oh and Colin Powell needs to sit on a sharp tack. What a tool.

gophergirl on January 13, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Would this ol’ timer lie?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSvcVeXzQQQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

wolly4321 on January 13, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Reality is reality, pal. “Perception is reality” is part of what’s wrong with this flippin’ country.

FerdtheMoonCat on January 13, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Hi GG!

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Conservative talker Sean Hannity, the day after the 2012 election, reversed course and came out for some version of comprehensive immigration reform; the next day on his radio show, Rush Limbaugh doubled down on his opposition…

Rush Limbaugh = Patriot

Sean Hannity = Useful Idiot.

VorDaj on January 13, 2013 at 8:13 PM

And what happened after Hannity “evolved” on amnesty? His ratings fell 50%. Coincidence? Me thinks not.

TxAnn56 on January 13, 2013 at 8:45 PM

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:33 PM

…no…slowing down…but still slashing each others wrists…good place for you…

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Sigh… I got bored with them, most of them can’t generate enough cerebral heat to warm a gnats ass.

SWalker on January 13, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Oh and Colin Powell needs to sit on a sharp tack. What a tool.

gophergirl on January 13, 2013 at 8:44 PM

+1

He’s the left’s newest Race-Hustler and should be disavowed.

Tim_CA on January 13, 2013 at 8:46 PM

His loss.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 13, 2013 at 8:43 PM

I’m sure it is. I hope you get your closure soon.

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Hi GG!

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Hello!

gophergirl on January 13, 2013 at 8:46 PM

More than ever, American voters was (sic) pragmatism, not ideologues in public office.

bayam on January 13, 2013 at 8:21 PM

then wtf did they elect ogabe for? you’ve gone full retard.

tom daschle concerned on January 13, 2013 at 8:47 PM

Think we’ll see both Harbaughs in the Bowl? Anyone playing cards? Got a wholt lotta nuthin’ runnin through my brain…

abobo on January 13, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Think we’ll see both Harbaughs in the Bowl? Anyone playing cards? Got a wholt lotta nuthin’ runnin through my brain…

abobo on January 13, 2013 at 8:48 PM

I think SF has a better shot than Baltimore. NE looks pretty tough.

gophergirl on January 13, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Bmore- yea, I need one. I can’t kill elk with the Bushmaster. (actually, I could, head shot)

wolly4321 on January 13, 2013 at 8:49 PM

gophergirl on January 13, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Agreed.

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 8:49 PM

It’s freezing here – I hate winter.

Oh and Colin Powell needs to sit on a sharp tack. What a tool.

gophergirl on January 13, 2013 at 8:44 PM

It’s cold here too-for west Texas…and seconded on the Powell ‘suggestion’.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 13, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Their income is treated for tax purposes as a capital gain, so they’re taxed at far lower rates. This is called the carried interest exemption, and everybody knows it’s a big con.

Translated to English.
People invest in a business that has to pay all kinds of taxes. Sometimes that investment pays off.
They are then taxed a second time on their profit.
It is not a con. It is a way go get people to invest in business.
When you sell your home that is also a Capital Gain. It is not inflation adjusted. It seems a con to tax it that way.

So where is the con really? You could invest in a business and then sell that investment years later. The business could only gain at the rate of inflation but you would still be taxed on that supposed gain.

Steveangell on January 13, 2013 at 8:53 PM

It’s cold here too-for west Texas…and seconded on the Powell ‘suggestion’.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 13, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Down here in the rainforest, it was 76 when I went to bed last night with the A/C and fan on. I woke up with a cold and it was 43 outside. I’ve been having Nyquil on the rocks, no salt.

TxAnn56 on January 13, 2013 at 8:54 PM

But wait, Matt Damons mother is a public school teacher…….

you morons just dont get it

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RAGIN CAJUN on January 13, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Bmore- yea, I need one. I can’t kill elk with the Bushmaster. (actually, I could, head shot)

wolly4321 on January 13, 2013 at 8:49 PM

I guess I’d have to go with .35 cal ; ) If I had one that is.

Bmore on January 13, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Dove pot pie.

wolly4321 on January 13, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Down here in the rainforest, it was 76 when I went to bed last night with the A/C and fan on. I woke up with a cold and it was 43 outside. I’ve been having Nyquil on the rocks, no salt.

TxAnn56 on January 13, 2013 at 8:54 PM

We went from 42 to single digits/below zero in less than a day.

I swear they should worry more about pneumonia than the flu.

gophergirl on January 13, 2013 at 8:57 PM

gophergirl on January 13, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Tom Brady’s always a tough opponent. He’s the Jesus Quintana of the NFL.

abobo on January 13, 2013 at 8:58 PM

gophergirl on January 13, 2013 at 8:57 PM

I’ll be in Ohio tomorrow, brrrr!

Who is John Galt on January 13, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Memory circuit overload. Press the do over key.

Inappropriate use of the do over key. Press Ignore.

Oh. So you want to ignore me? Not happening.

Press the Do over key and say please this time.

SparkPlug on January 13, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Bill Palmer of BeatWeek.com says ‘shoot all gun owners’

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1420924_Editor_in_Chief_of_beatweek_com_just_replied_to_me_on_Twitter.html

rayra on January 13, 2013 at 8:19 PM

the problem is we will shoot back …

conservative tarheel on January 13, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Cheese will show us the way forward.

Bishop on January 13, 2013 at 9:02 PM

And what happened after Hannity “evolved” on amnesty? His ratings fell 50%. Coincidence? Me thinks not.

TxAnn56 on January 13, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Shhhh.

All the GOPe here firmly believe that the Establishment Message works.

No amount of proof that it does not will ever be accepted.

2010 Conservative Message wins. 2010 Gone from GOPe memory.

Steveangell on January 13, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Hi Sparky!

KCB on January 13, 2013 at 9:02 PM

Who stole my pants? I woke up wearing a kilt. Scrumpy?

SparkPlug on January 13, 2013 at 9:02 PM

The .270win is okay.

I’m leaving Dodge. Moving north of the white mountains. Garden. Hunt.

wolly4321 on January 13, 2013 at 9:03 PM

If the past is prologue then it follows that cheese is the future.

SparkPlug on January 13, 2013 at 9:03 PM

TxAnn56 on January 13, 2013 at 8:54 PM

I’m headin’ back to Chi 2 weeks(visit a friend for a day) from tomorrow. It’s good that I’m getting acclimated to the cold stuff. Right now, it’s warmer in Chi than here. That’ll change. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on January 13, 2013 at 9:04 PM

You should have seen the DNC’s / Zero’s latest sellout of the Benghazi SEALS aka Colin Powell fighting David Gregory for that prime street corner lamp post out in front of the h-White House earlier today. Show more leg, Colin!

viking01 on January 13, 2013 at 9:04 PM

don’t tell anyone, but the SSM movement in France! is coming under criticism. Like in Big Protests. Like every child should have a Mother and Father.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/yimcatholic/2013/01/hundreds-of-thousands-protest-in-france-over-same-sex-marriage-proposals.html

aren’t you glad that we are sooooooo much more progressive here! Forward!

…and they only have abortion for 12 weeks…Forward!

r keller on January 13, 2013 at 9:04 PM

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