Obama about ready to push forward with a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants

posted at 3:31 pm on January 13, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

As Ed pointed out yesterday, Sen. Rubio is hatching a plan to ‘charge up the middle’ on illegal immigration — and it might not be a moment too soon. The White House has already indicated that they are planning to go full-throttle on prioritizing the immigration issue in a second term, and it looks like those plan are already starting to take a more definite shape in the form of a comprehensive legislative package that critics will undoubtedly say looks an awful lot like amnesty, reports the NYT:

President Obama plans to push Congress to move quickly in the coming months on an ambitious overhaul of the immigration system that would include a path to citizenship for most of the 11 million illegal immigrants in the country, senior administration officials and lawmakers said last week.

The president and Democrats will also oppose measures that do not allow immigrants who gain legal status to become American citizens one day, the officials said.

… Mr. Obama and lawmakers from both parties believe that the early months of his second term offer the best prospects for passing substantial legislation on the issue.

… The White House will argue that its solution for illegal immigrants is not an amnesty, as many critics insist, because it would include fines, the payment of back taxes and other hurdles for illegal immigrants who would obtain legal status, the officials said.

I think it’s safe to say that plenty of the voting public can’t even summon the will to feign interest in the budget battles on the federal docket in the coming months, and President Obama is ready to use his campaign-like tactics to try and get people fired up about something again; that, combined with many GOP members’ post-election readiness to reassess their stances and not let the Democrats take the lead on a longstanding issue the country may finally be ready to tackle, might mean that this is the perfect political storm for movement on immigration.

Perhaps the White House will decide that it would behoove them to make the effort in a grandiose display of bipartisanship and convince everyone that the president really is capable of negotiating and getting big, meaningful things accomplished, but if given the chance, I’m sure they wouldn’t mind getting out in front of the issue and taking all the credit while highlighting more intra-Republican squabbles. The GOP can’t risk getting caught with their pants down on this, and they’ll need to have a workable alternative on hand — and it sounds like Sen. Rubio is hoping to lead on the issue and further prove his national mettle.


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burrata on January 13, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Rubio believes he can become the leader of the Hispanics in this nation. He wants to parley his Hispanic ethnicity into a presidency.

He tries to convince the GOP that he can deliver Hispanic voters in order to secure the support of the GOP establishment.

He, like Obama, wishes this nation to become a ‘minority majority’ as quickly as possible, by any means available, in order to further that ambition to become president. If we consider why…we realize it’s a cold, calculated bet to relieve those who built this nation of the reins of power because he believes that if he is seen to champion amnesty for Hispanics he will be elected by them. He seeks to weld together all those who support amnesty, Democrat and Republican, under his own banner and he will seek to sell this plan to the GOP as being beneficial to the party.

Let me ask: IF the GOP sacrifices the rule of law for those votes it can garner through such chicanery, how is it different from the Democrats?

We are a nation of laws built on the singular premise that the rule of law applies equally to all without preference or prejudice. If exception to, or preferential treatment, is rendered to a class of millions of those who willfully shattered federal immigration law, thereby demonstrating a complete disregard for the rule of law and a clear disdain for the rights of the citizens and legal immigrants of this nation, we cannot maintain the rule of law for anyone.

If the 11-30 million illegal aliens currently at large in this nation are granted any form of amnesty, it will encourage ALL around the world who wish to simply shatter ANY existing immigration law, come to this nation illegally, take whatever they wish from this nation, to do so. It will be a complete breach of the rule of law.

No nation can exist without clear and properly defended borders and immigration laws that are rigorously enforced. As long as a people or a nation has something that others want… others will seek a way to take it. Rewarding those who choose to come to this nation to take what they want only encourages more of the same.

thatsafactjack on January 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM

I’ll admit to not paying attention: when did we abandon “refugee status”..?

affenhauer on January 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM

We didn’t. Emilio Estefan, Desi Arnaz, and Marco Rubio’s parents all benefited from it, among others — and that’s just from Cuba.

gryphon202 on January 13, 2013 at 6:05 PM

gryphon202 on January 13, 2013 at 6:05 PM

So all of NC’s examples could actually apply to be here….legally?

affenhauer on January 13, 2013 at 6:10 PM

As long as a people or a nation has something that others want… others will seek a way to take it. Rewarding those who choose to come to this nation to take what they want only encourages more of the same.

thatsafactjack on January 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM

We have a nation that is ruled by someone who has a drunkel and moochanty living off the US taxpayers. And these are the 2 we know of.
Hussein should do amnesty with EO . Let him do it himself and be responsible for the consequences of his action. Why is Rubio jumping up and down trying to shield Hussein from that ? Well now I know why :(
What kind of stupid thinks that after this amnesty , illegals , specially illegal hispanics will become patriotic towards USA and/or conservatives ?

burrata on January 13, 2013 at 6:16 PM

I’ll admit to not paying attention: when did we abandon “refugee status”..?

affenhauer on January 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM

We didn’t. Emilio Estefan, Desi Arnaz, and Marco Rubio’s parents all benefited from it, among others — and that’s just from Cuba.

gryphon202 on January 13, 2013 at 6:05 PM

Refugee status means anyone we have gone to war with or had any military in, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, for example, can send over their ‘refugees’ to our country and they can rape, assault, commit fraud, and we can’t get rid of them.
Refugee status=Herpes.
And, yes, it’s alive and well.

RovesChins on January 13, 2013 at 6:17 PM

So all of NC’s examples could actually apply to be here….legally?

affenhauer on January 13, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Any foreign national can apply to be here legally. The application under normal circumstances must be made from one’s home country, and takes a large amount of time and money if one’s final goal is citizenship. I personally believe that’s as it should be, as citizenship is a commodity that loses value when we make it easier to obtain.

gryphon202 on January 13, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Refugee status means anyone we have gone to war with or had any military in, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, for example, can send over their ‘refugees’ to our country and they can rape, assault, commit fraud, and we can’t get rid of them.
Refugee status=Herpes.
And, yes, it’s alive and well.

RovesChins on January 13, 2013 at 6:17 PM

It’s not quite that simple, though I do believe that America should be very selective about who they consider refugees for precisely that reason.

gryphon202 on January 13, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Refugee status means anyone we have gone to war with or had any military in, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, for example, can send over their ‘refugees’ to our country and they can rape, assault, commit fraud, and we can’t get rid of them.
Refugee status=Herpes.
And, yes, it’s alive and well.

RovesChins on January 13, 2013 at 6:17 PM

i guess the Cubans from Gryph’s example count re the Cuban-American War? Not sure how the policy is applied is all…

affenhauer on January 13, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Any foreign national can apply to be here legally. The application under normal circumstances must be made from one’s home country, and takes a large amount of time and money if one’s final goal is citizenship. I personally believe that’s as it should be, as citizenship is a commodity that loses value when we make it easier to obtain.

gryphon202 on January 13, 2013 at 6:18 PM

I don’t think refugee situations qualify as ‘normal’ – thus my question…

affenhauer on January 13, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Most important of all, NO VOTING RIGHTS for anyone here illegally or their children unless and until they get in line and follow the same steps as every other LEGAL immigrant. No welfare. No criminals.

Mayday on January 13, 2013 at 6:24 PM

This awaits you all, soon. Thank Obama.

Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 4:04 PM

I read the comments & they are pathetic.
Blaming doctors & government managers & such for these problems instead of realizing that it is government intervention that causes these things to happen.
So many of them kept saying that they paid into the system & they should get what they paid into it.
I imagine this is very similar to Medicaid/care & SS here.
People end up drawing so much more than they paid into the system.
MEanwhile, the govt meddling in this creates shortages & cost increases like we see in the college market.
While the ‘free’ market may not be perfect, it is much better than letting the government heavy handedly controlling things.

Badger40 on January 13, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Refugee status means anyone we have gone to war with or had any military in, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, for example, can send over their ‘refugees’ to our country and they can rape, assault, commit fraud, and we can’t get rid of them.
Refugee status=Herpes.
And, yes, it’s alive and well.

RovesChins on January 13, 2013 at 6:17 PM

It’s not quite that simple, though I do believe that America should be very selective about who they consider refugees for precisely that reason.

gryphon202 on January 13, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Except when it is. We pretty much let anyone in in the name of nation building.

Refugee status means anyone we have gone to war with or had any military in, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, for example, can send over their ‘refugees’ to our country and they can rape, assault, commit fraud, and we can’t get rid of them.
Refugee status=Herpes.
And, yes, it’s alive and well.

RovesChins on January 13, 2013 at 6:17 PM

i guess the Cubans from Gryph’s example count re the Cuban-American War? Not sure how the policy is applied is all…

affenhauer on January 13, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Yeah, that whole toe thing, which still continues today. I think the world would be a better place if Emilio Estafan, his commie wife, (ex wife?), would be rolling cigars and driving 50′s Chevys in the old country. They were huge contributors to the Indonesian dog eating tool in the White House.

RovesChins on January 13, 2013 at 6:28 PM

Question :
If illegals were not guaranteed US citizenship and freebies for their anchor babies, do you think they would be popping anchor babies at all ?

burrata on January 13, 2013 at 6:29 PM

All i know is what ive learned since Reagan’s attempt at immigration reform.

If we reward those that break our laws, a majority will take that mindset of entitlement, right to the ballot box for the Democrats and their “Santa Claus” campaigns.

We will be a bankrupt, balkanized, backward, body politic who bends at the will of the bureaucracy, bartering away its freedom for barren government benefits.

The so called “47%” will instantly become 51% (if it isnt already) always voting themselves more until there is nothing left (if they havent already).

So, the Tytler Cycle it is then….

alecj on January 13, 2013 at 6:30 PM

RovesChins on January 13, 2013 at 6:28 PM

No argument here…

affenhauer on January 13, 2013 at 6:31 PM

We are a nation of laws built on the singular premise that the rule of law applies equally to all without preference or prejudice.

thatsafactjack on January 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Exactly.
And clearly this is often ignored.

This country really is too far gone to go back to the Constitutional Republic it was intended to be.
There are too many people here who cheer the breaking of important laws, too many people voting & in govt who hold contempt for the Constitution & our laws.
Honestly, things were over a long time ago.
This Republic will by by fits & starts, as it has been for decades.
You cannot cure this kind of cancer, even if we had 100 super Reagans.
There just is no turning back after this much decay.

Badger40 on January 13, 2013 at 6:32 PM

Question :
If illegals were not guaranteed US citizenship and freebies for their anchor babies, do you think they would be popping anchor babies at all ?

burrata on January 13, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Nope. Each anchor baby brings more freebies. You cut off the benefits, most of the welfare class would move back to their homeland.
They might work, but for every $1.00 they put in, they suck $3.00 out.

RovesChins on January 13, 2013 at 6:35 PM

Must read, and follow.

•Telling the American people how to live;
•Limiting access to medical care;
•Attempting by fiat and legislation to dramatically limit gun ownership;
•Shifting near unlimited power to Washington D.C., by ignoring the concept of federalism;
•Deliberately bankrupting the country;
•Placing the private sector under the thumb of bureaucrats;
•Monitoring without search warrants American’s private conversations and communications;
Allowing unrestrained illegal immigration in order to affect the voting patterns in their favor.

Yet in the America of 2013 all this, and more, has come to past and we are expected to believe the progressive cabal when they say their ultimate aim is not to effectively invalidate the second amendment by ever more stringent laws and regulations.

The left’s fundamental objective of transforming America is in sight, particularly with a fellow-traveler in the White House no longer facing re-election. Over the next four years, this faction will push their agenda more forcefully than ever as they will never allow a crisis, real or manufactured; to go to waste as they make certain an ever-increasing percentage of the population becomes indentured to the government.

I have lived my entire life on borrowed time and now in the twilight of my years, I have but one thing to say to those determined to take away or limit my right to own a firearm and to transform and destroy the greatest nation in the history of mankind. I, and many like me, will not be intimidated and you will only accomplish your ultimate ends over our dead bodies.

Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 6:43 PM

No nation can exist without clear and properly defended borders and immigration laws that are rigorously enforced. As long as a people or a nation has something that others want… others will seek a way to take it. Rewarding those who choose to come to this nation to take what they want only encourages more of the same.

thatsafactjack on January 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM

One should never assume that Obama wants the US to exist, as she was/is somewhat.

Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 6:45 PM

Perhaps the White House will decide that it would behoove them to make the effort in a grandiose display of bipartisanship and convince everyone that the president really is capable of negotiating

Kind of funny state one thing completely opposite of the link you included in the post.

Odumbo only knows one word I.

Odumbo requires a teleprompter whenever speaking even a very short speech.

He constantly makes every single thing about himself. He inserts himself over and over and over again into every single aspect of government and what he says and does.

He does not like to golf with women for example so he never ever does unless absolutely forced to. Two women in 200 or so rounds or in other words 2 out of 500 golf party members.

He makes every vacation mostly about him. He golfs and does all kinds of things only using his family for flopping or photos to make him look good.

To think he would allow the Republicans any part of immigration is to simply not pay attention.

He will simply act like the Dicatator he is and issue more EO’s. Just like with gun control and very possibly the debt ceiling. After all who is going to impeach him for it?

Steveangell on January 13, 2013 at 6:56 PM

Not entirely true, since a helluva lot of them would still come for the honest work.

NorthernCross

He didn’t say it was entirely true. He said it would stop about 95%. But that’s what folks like you always do…if any solution doesn’t prevent illegal immigration 100%, then it’s worthless, and the only alternative is amnesty…which, ironically, will not only not prevent illegal immigration, it will in fact encourage more of it.

xblade on January 13, 2013 at 6:56 PM

and convince everyone that the president really is capable of negotiating

just the lsm and the kool-aid drinkers will think he really is negotiating…

cmsinaz on January 13, 2013 at 7:27 PM

This country really is too far gone to go back to the Constitutional Republic it was intended to be.
There are too many people here who cheer the breaking of important laws, too many people voting & in govt who hold contempt for the Constitution & our laws.
Honestly, things were over a long time ago.
This Republic will by by fits & starts, as it has been for decades.
You cannot cure this kind of cancer, even if we had 100 super Reagans.
There just is no turning back after this much decay.

Badger40 on January 13, 2013 at 6:32 PM

I would say 2010 strongly argues against that.

The people are itching for the chance to fix things and make them right. It is just that the leaders of the country will have nothing to do with fixing anything. They seem to prefer to change America into a democracy so they can better control it. Remove all of the Constitutional Republic attributes America was born with that made America America.

Give America a chance with a real Tea Party.

Steveangell on January 13, 2013 at 7:40 PM

The GOP can’t risk getting caught with their pants down on this, and they’ll need to have a workable alternative on hand — and it sounds like Sen. Rubio is hoping to lead on the issue and further prove his national mettle.

How? By trying to get Republicans to take their pants completely off?

VorDaj on January 13, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Why is Rubio so eager to aid and facilitate Hussein ?

burrata on January 13, 2013 at 3:48 PM

I guess he wants to be the Republican’s Obama.

VorDaj on January 13, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Somebody tell me what would be wrong for the House to put any Senate immigration bill on the back burner and tell the Dems that it will not be considered until budgets are passed, deficit / debt is dealt with and serious attention to jobs are given. It seems to me this would be more of a winner than spending months working on immigration which would make deficit / debt / jobs situations worse.

Oleta on January 13, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Somebody tell me what would be wrong for the House to put any Senate immigration bill on the back burner and tell the Dems that it will not be considered until budgets are passed, deficit / debt is dealt with and serious attention to jobs are given. It seems to me this would be more of a winner than spending months working on immigration which would make deficit / debt / jobs situations worse.

Oleta on January 13, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Nothing. Well other than John has nothing between his legs so would never ever do that.

Steveangell on January 13, 2013 at 11:33 PM

Obama about ready to push forward with a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants

They really want to be U.S. Citizens? Really?

Right now they can do pretty well for themselves over here, much of it tax free, and can retire to Mexico or wherever and live like kings.

The only reason the Dems would want them to have Citizenship is that they can vote for the Dems…but, I don’t know that they aren’t doing that anyway.

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 14, 2013 at 12:17 AM

My take.

kingsjester on January 14, 2013 at 6:38 AM

“. . . path to citizenship”

There’s one already in place.

So, why do we need another one?

TimBuk3 on January 14, 2013 at 8:03 AM

Why would the illegals want to pay a fine, unless it’s minor, and back taxes, how would they ever figure those out, as a path to citizenship? This is the same old crapola they tried 4 years ago drug out with a new coat of paint. If the R establishment is on this bent, thanks Rubio, as a method of ‘getting’ the hispanic voter, then they’ve totally bought into the msm kool aide about a path to victory. Rubio has totally lost the message from his parents about why they left Cuba in the first place. We will end up as another banana republic with a lifetime leader like Hugo. Oh, wait….

Kissmygrits on January 14, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Two Party Evil Money Clut.

The now American Southwest, former Apache Homelands, lost to unlimited illegal immigration from Spain, Mexico, and the U.S.A..

Read the book on the life of Apache Chief Mangus Colorados, “Apache” by Will Liventon Comfort.

The Apache fought unlimited illegal immigration by Spain and Mexico for 300 years. The fight included $2.00 per set of Apache ears, men, women and children.

You American’s are now the new Apache, and just as happen to the Apache some within have become scouts for the invaders and sell you out for gold and power. Many Apache became the ones who would help the Spanish and Mexican armies attack the free Apaches.

These scouts are in your Congress, they are in the White House and each year more and more come into the U.S. from the 4 corners of the world driven by the 4 winds of evil.

You must fight now, if not, ask any Apache what the final result will be.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 14, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Sure O. Leave a turd at the door on the way out.

johnnyU on January 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM

When President Obama decrees Illegal Aliens to be citizens, will they still get preferential treatment and exemptions from the laws of the land?

I mean, I know New Black Panthers, govt employees and union members are all exempted from laws you and I would serve time for, but will the arbitrary law application continue for these folks once they are declared citizens? Will they still receive free access to primary and secondary schools and healthcare, or will they have to start paying for these “rights”?

What about DUI convictions? Will there be a limit put on those?

With all the arbitrary law enforcement instituted by the regime, is there a database somewhere that keeps all these U.S. Government-Approved-Discrimination policies up-to-date?

ROCnPhilly on January 15, 2013 at 9:55 AM

The America hater-in-chief makes it easy for illegals to get citizenship, but it is still hard for the legal immigrants…… go figure. All about votes for progressive liberal scum.

ultracon on January 15, 2013 at 12:00 PM

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