Obama about ready to push forward with a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants

posted at 3:31 pm on January 13, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

As Ed pointed out yesterday, Sen. Rubio is hatching a plan to ‘charge up the middle’ on illegal immigration — and it might not be a moment too soon. The White House has already indicated that they are planning to go full-throttle on prioritizing the immigration issue in a second term, and it looks like those plan are already starting to take a more definite shape in the form of a comprehensive legislative package that critics will undoubtedly say looks an awful lot like amnesty, reports the NYT:

President Obama plans to push Congress to move quickly in the coming months on an ambitious overhaul of the immigration system that would include a path to citizenship for most of the 11 million illegal immigrants in the country, senior administration officials and lawmakers said last week.

The president and Democrats will also oppose measures that do not allow immigrants who gain legal status to become American citizens one day, the officials said.

… Mr. Obama and lawmakers from both parties believe that the early months of his second term offer the best prospects for passing substantial legislation on the issue.

… The White House will argue that its solution for illegal immigrants is not an amnesty, as many critics insist, because it would include fines, the payment of back taxes and other hurdles for illegal immigrants who would obtain legal status, the officials said.

I think it’s safe to say that plenty of the voting public can’t even summon the will to feign interest in the budget battles on the federal docket in the coming months, and President Obama is ready to use his campaign-like tactics to try and get people fired up about something again; that, combined with many GOP members’ post-election readiness to reassess their stances and not let the Democrats take the lead on a longstanding issue the country may finally be ready to tackle, might mean that this is the perfect political storm for movement on immigration.

Perhaps the White House will decide that it would behoove them to make the effort in a grandiose display of bipartisanship and convince everyone that the president really is capable of negotiating and getting big, meaningful things accomplished, but if given the chance, I’m sure they wouldn’t mind getting out in front of the issue and taking all the credit while highlighting more intra-Republican squabbles. The GOP can’t risk getting caught with their pants down on this, and they’ll need to have a workable alternative on hand — and it sounds like Sen. Rubio is hoping to lead on the issue and further prove his national mettle.


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Santa needs more kids.

tom daschle concerned on January 13, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Legalize them but no path for citizenship what so ever, not even permanent resident status (green card)… That is the least penalty they should pay for being illegal immigrants… Give them work visa that needs to be renewed every 3 or 5 years with a fee…

mnjg on January 13, 2013 at 3:36 PM

But eventually there won’t be enough gifts for all those kids.

Brat on January 13, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Cloward and Piven Strategy, Part #12,034,019…

Fallon on January 13, 2013 at 3:40 PM

11 million? Please.

That’s just CA and TX.

The whole US?

More like 20+ million.

RarestRX on January 13, 2013 at 3:41 PM

But eventually there won’t be enough gifts for all those kids.

Brat on January 13, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Yes… Eventually socialists will run out of the producers money and when it happens they have two options:

1. Run and hide and give up power…

2. Use violence to confiscate everything the producers have, kill and silence the majority, everyone now except for the super elite rulers will be equally living in poverty… This is when socialism becomes communism…

mnjg on January 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM

They want an influx of immigration to overwhelm the welfare programs, crash Obamacare and force us into a disarmed socialist state.

HotAirian on January 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM

I’ve got a path to citizenship for them: first step is “go back to your country and get in line behind everyone else”…

affenhauer on January 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM

As Ed pointed out yesterday, Sen. Rubio is hatching a plan to ‘charge up the middle’ on illegal immigration — and it might not be a moment too soon. The White House has already indicated that they are planning to go full-throttle on prioritizing the immigration issue in a second term, and it looks like those plan are already starting to take a more definite shape in the form of a comprehensive legislative package that critics will undoubtedly say looks an awful lot like amnesty…

… yeah, because amnesty will be a better idea if ‘Republicans’ push it, or something.

By the way, I’m glad they’ve figured out what to do with all the huge bags of extra cash the government has lying around. Giving out new entitlements and crap to people who are here illegally – and attracting more of the same – is a great way to handle all this surplus cash, now that the government is running a surplus every year and the debt has been paid.

Wait, what?

Midas on January 13, 2013 at 3:42 PM

disgusting. our country is going down the toilet and they want to shove more turds down the bowl.

useful idiot immigrant rubio leading the charge.

renalin on January 13, 2013 at 3:43 PM

As Ed pointed out yesterday, Sen. Rubio is hatching a plan to ‘charge up the middle’ on illegal immigration — and it might not be a moment too soon.

So Rubio is trying to out pander, Obama?

sharrukin on January 13, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Sen. Rubio is hatching a plan to ‘charge up the middle’ on illegal immigration — and it might not be a moment too soon.

Rubio’s plan is amnesty and is a total deal-breaker. The answer to the left pushing for the end of nation-state and the concept of national sovereignty is not a “charge up the middle”. Barky’s ideas are purely treasonous and Rubio’s aren’t far behind.

The GOP committed political suicide in 2006-2008 by pushing this stupid “charge up the middle” to try and ram amnesty down our throats. When it was all done people left the GOP, the party got destroyed in 2008 (bringing us the truly anti-American, anti-Western, 84 IQ muslim-raised imbecile from Jakarta) and made itself a pariah. It was only the Tea Party that rescued the GOP from total destruction, and that was in spite of the GOP’s continued resistance to defend America, the Constitution, and conservative values. The GOP was the only vehicle around to fight the America-hating left and their Indonesian Dog-Eater.

So now, the GOP thinks it’s going to jump back into its suicide run with more amnesty – and this is after the Weeping Boner has caved to Barky and the left on every single issue for the past two years and been a total failure of a Speaker … This “charge up the middle” of Rubio’s is nothing but a jump into the canyon.

It’s time for a national divorce. The damage done to America is irreparable and the GOP most certainly cannot be counted on to defend any aspect of America and American values. It’s time to start anew. Otherwise, we will all be trapped in the American Socialist Superstate, with help from Rubio and the GOP … “charging up the middle”.

Rubio needs to shut his trap, already. He’s a friggin idiot who’s as bad and destructive to America as the Weeping Boner.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 13, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Why is Rubio so eager to aid and facilitate Hussein ?

burrata on January 13, 2013 at 3:48 PM

The reason we have so many illegals in the country entrenched in society is because the government has refused to enforce our laws, even though the majority of the Americans wanted the laws enfored.

We need enforcement first, then we can talk about what to do with all those here illegally.

LilyBart on January 13, 2013 at 3:49 PM

…economy?…spending?…taxes?…the “flexibility” begins before the new inauguration!

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Well, now we are finally seeing the Obama end game…

By Executive Order, Obama grants full amnesty to each and every illegal in the United States and many who would have been here but presently could not make it.

As a condition of this amnesty, each illegal will be required to collect personal fire arms from at least five American citizens, along with ammunition, scopes, accessories and such, to be turned in at the local registrar commissar, who will notarize the acceptance of this “gift” by an immigrant formerly known as “illegal” who can then turn this certificate over to the local magistrate Party Chairman and be granted full and complete citizenship, membership as a fully voting lifetime member(and beyond, in most cases) of the Democrat Party…and can invite as many family members from the “old country” as they desire, so long as the annual quota of confiscated firearms is maintained by each newly arriving once-thought-to-be-illegal family member.

Thus, there is no onus on local law enforcement, nor on our military.

No citizens fighting citizens, nor citizens involved in armed conflict with local police or National Guard or active service members of any kind or sort.

Any rancor, rage and otherwise being a bit put-out, on the part of citizens having weapons confiscated, should be directed toward those poor, misunderstood, downtrodden, victims of American imperialism and colonialism…yep…those immigrants formerly known as “illegal.”

After all, it was them, not government, who came to collect our guns.

Oh, c’mon. It is not all that stupid.

It isn’t like somebody in government actually considered minting and issuing a $1-trillion coin or something, right?

coldwarrior on January 13, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Sounds like Erika is joining Ed aboard the amnesty train.

It’ll die in the House tho. Boehner isn’t going to waive the Hastert Rule for amnesty, and I’m not sure that there would be at least 17 GOP votes for it even if he did.

Jon0815 on January 13, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Why is Rubio so eager to aid and facilitate Hussein ?

burrata on January 13, 2013 at 3:48 PM
gee, i dunno. why are so many on here still registered republicans???

GhoulAid on January 13, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Just another slap in the face to those of us who played by the rules to come here legally.

JPeterman on January 13, 2013 at 3:51 PM

I think it’s time for a Republican to propose eliminating the Immigration service and open the borders. Really, what’s the point? It’s only discriminating against those who are standing in line around the world and trying to enter legally.

To get some regional balance to our immigration system, it may be the only solution.

rickyricardo on January 13, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Was it really that long ago?

1986 – “There will be NO more amnesty. We WILL secure our borders!”

Uh, yeah.

GarandFan on January 13, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Give them work visa that needs to be renewed every 3 or 5 years with a fee…

mnjg on January 13, 2013 at 3:36 PM

In a country with 20%+ real unemployment, that is a pretty bad idea.

We don’t need more labor in America, we need more jobs for those already here.

What we really need is a 10-15 year moratorium on legal immigration, and a major effort to find and deport illegals.

Rebar on January 13, 2013 at 3:59 PM

All who brung him, from the left, to the right, may he destroy you and yours, in full. He’s doing a fine job at it already, while he lives in grand style. You were all snookered.

Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 4:03 PM

No amnesty.

No welfare.

No green card.

Older white men like me are second-class citizens in our own country, so I’m not going to be lenient in any form. I also don’t want to hear about anchor babies. Kick the parents out when they’re caught and fingerprint the kids, then at age 21 he/she can come here and take rightful place.

Liam on January 13, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Face it folks, it’s not our country anymore, we just live here.

lonestarleeroy on January 13, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Cloward and Piven Strategy, Part #12,034,019…

Fallon on January 13, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Exactly, The luciferian preezy and his boos plot to end America while he smokes his kools.

Alinsky 24/7:365

May he meet his idol lucifer, post haste.

tom daschle concerned on January 13, 2013 at 4:04 PM

This awaits you all, soon. Thank Obama.

Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Workable alternative? How about “no”?

It polls well.

S. Weasel on January 13, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Obama’s AmeriKa.

Welcome JPeterman.

Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Let’s all learn to “share”.

lonestarleeroy on January 13, 2013 at 4:05 PM

The death march to Balkanized oblivion for America started in 1965.

This is just one more nail in the national coffin.

profitsbeard on January 13, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Heh, no checks on legal work but national databases on gun ownership.

The once free land deserves all of Obama’s destruction of what you once loved. YOU brung him, you got him. May his ‘progress’ proceed apace. Actions have consequences.

Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 4:06 PM

As someone who took someone through the real existing path to citizenship and paid NSCIS a lot of money to simply file forms…I’m not all that warm on this.

Said person was a documented alien without constitutional rights before said person naturalized. During which time said person paid federal income tax and SS/M.

No sale, hombre.

CorporatePiggy on January 13, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Starve the Looters, like Obama and libfreeordie, or suffer.

Produce and pay taxes, so they destroy you…the alternative.

Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Sure, let’s give 12 million criminals the right to be lifelong Democrat voter!

How could this go wrong? I’m sure they’ll all be so impressed with our bipartisanship that they’ll vote for us from now on…

/sarc

thurman on January 13, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Obama looks so puerile and stupid in every picture.

Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Rubio is a McCain mini-me. He’s just younger, prettier, with a bio and a golden speaking ability.

As for Obama, my thought is that he’s overreaching in a big way. His arrogance is such that he thinks now is the time to do whatever he wants. In doing so he’s going to anger everyone except the most hardened progressives and the foolish Kool-Ade drinkers, because those who don’t care about one issue will care about another, and some will care about all the issues. (Channeling Abe Lincoln in reverse, sort of).

He’s going to double-down on propaganda, and we’ll suddenly start seeing skewed polls on illegal aliens.

INC on January 13, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Give them work visa that needs to be renewed every 3 or 5 years with a fee…

mnjg on January 13, 2013 at 3:36 PM

No way, they get in line and play by the rules like so many of us did.

JPeterman on January 13, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Give them work visa that needs to be renewed every 3 or 5 years with a fee…

mnjg on January 13, 2013 at 3:36 PM

No. That’s aiding and abetting, since what they were trying to steal, in the first place, wasn’t citizenship but just legal residency and being able to work here. You cannot reward law-breakers and those who thumb their nose at our sovereignty with exactly what they were trying to steal in the first place.

Illegals need to return to the countries they are citizens of – and they are all citizens of some other country (or countries). They are not Americans, though. They have no right to be here and when they break our laws and thumb their noses at our sovereignty to stay here they cannot be rewarded in any way. The only answer for illegals is deportation as they are found and they can NEVER return for any reason.

There are billions of people of people who are dying to come to America (even to the dying nation that is now the American Socialist Superstate). We have no need for anyone who has spit in our faces and broken our laws. They have given up any chances they might have had to stay here or get citizenship. Tough. We have more than enough others to CHOOSE to let in, who would respect America and our law. Illegals have burned that bridge and they must be left on the other side, where they belong.

Any sort of amnesty – ANY SORT – is a total deal-breaker. No legal residency. No work permits. No nothing.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 13, 2013 at 4:11 PM

ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS are NOT immigrants.
Immigration is a lawful process.

This is like calling a burglar an illegal house guest.

B. Hussein Obama is anxious to excuse the lawbreaking of these border jumpers, because he knows it adds to his planned destruction of America.

That America comitted suicide on November 6th hoping for “free stuff”.

HammerNH on January 13, 2013 at 4:11 PM

No way, they get in line and play by the rules like so many of us did.

JPeterman on January 13, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Exactly.

INC on January 13, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Face it folks, it’s not our country anymore, we just live here.

lonestarleeroy on January 13, 2013 at 4:03 PM

…..and pay taxes to enrich everyone who hates us

burrata on January 13, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Give them work visa that needs to be renewed every 3 or 5 years with a fee…

mnjg on January 13, 2013 at 3:36 PM

No work visa until and unless a legal employer in USA steps up and takes responsibility for the illegal.

burrata on January 13, 2013 at 4:19 PM

If the GOP wants to “get out in front” on immigration, they’ll say that any and all proposals MUST include a provision that illegal immigrants get NO public welfare benefits whatsoever. They MUST make their own way — or go home. This is one issue that has ALWAYS had better than 60% public support. Make the narrative what it is — Zero and the democrats wants millions of illegals signed up on the welfare rolls, so they’ll become dutiful little dependent democrats someday; they want to expand the plantation. Make THAT the narrative the democrats want, and the GOP will own this issue.

Rational Thought on January 13, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Welcome JPeterman.

Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 4:05 PM

I can’t wait to get home///

JPeterman on January 13, 2013 at 4:21 PM

If Oligula’s little plan goes through, the competition for the top victim class is going to be stiff. Some black ‘leaders’ have complained the feminist movement stole the civil rights issue, other groups feel gays have stolen it, and now O is going to throw blacks under the bus.

This could be interesting to watch.

Liam on January 13, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Why is Rubio so eager to aid and facilitate Hussein ?

burrata on January 13, 2013 at 3:48 PM

…did you spell fellatio wrong?

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 4:23 PM

In related news, the printing of Food Stamps is about to double…

And since most are Mexicans, Blacks are suddenly going to realize they are no longer the #1 minority in the USA…and have to take a back seat to minority with the most votes….

albill on January 13, 2013 at 4:25 PM

I can’t wait to get home///

JPeterman on January 13, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Your sarc noted, no place is home any more. They are altering the world, to enlarge the plantations.

Relatively free fools always deserve it.

Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 4:25 PM

As a condition of this amnesty, each illegal will be required to collect personal fire arms from at least five American citizens, along with ammunition, scopes, accessories and such, to be turned in at the local registrar commissar, who will notarize the acceptance of this “gift” by an immigrant formerly known as “illegal” who can then turn this certificate over to the local magistrate Party Chairman and be granted full and complete citizenship,

coldwarrior on January 13, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Why go through all the trouble if all you’re going to be doing is burying them in mass graves? I would not want to be Jose Gonzales if he gets the Affenhauer residence on his list…

affenhauer on January 13, 2013 at 4:25 PM

In related news, the printing of Food Stamps is about to double…

albill on January 13, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Global redistribution and reparations is what Obama is all about. His second term will be marked by it.

This and the gun ‘grab’ are two major diversions from the economic/jobs woes, in addition to others, created and sustained by Obama.

He will be the worst president, right after Carter, but his socialism/communism will flourish.

The American people deserve it in full. All who brung him, may you be destroyed by him.

Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 4:27 PM

This will go nowhere in the House. Unless Obama’s plan is to try to pass something only to have it shot down so he can then portray the GOP as heartless toward Latinos, I’m not sure what the point is. I suppose he can also try to go the executive order route, but he can’t grant citizenship to millions of illegals. Merely allow them to stay in the country without fear of deportation which if I’m not mistaken has kind of already happened anyway.

Doughboy on January 13, 2013 at 4:27 PM

The fact Republicans can’t even contest his illegal executive order I think even surprised Obama who told a Latino audience it wasn’t possible. Now he knows coward like McConnell can only filibuster ideas out of the light of day and are too cowardly to oppose an executive order that polls well among the uniformed voter (which they will not try and educate)

Conan on January 13, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Do not focus on Mexicans. The southern border will be a floodgate for the entire world.

Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 4:28 PM

And the magic word of the day boys and girls is COMPREHENSIVE. This is the politicians way of saying that it can not be opposed since it is non bias, totally encompassing and reasonable; yes, it is COMPREHENSIVE!

Pardonme on January 13, 2013 at 4:28 PM

I find it interesting that Hot Air is trying to push amnesty when most American clearly don’t want it. Check out the responses to the NYTs article and you’ll see how much many Americans hate amnesty.Some of the most hostile responses are from legal immigrants who have waited years and followed the rules.If amnesty passes with even one Republican vote I’m done with the GOP.

Hera on January 13, 2013 at 4:28 PM

I would suggest those in the anti-amnesty camp to sign up for NumbersUSA. It is to immigration what the NRA is to gun rights. There are now 1.3 million members. It’s the best way to try to beat this…AGAIN.

Back in 2007, when Bush pushed an immigration bill, Numbers USA supporters flooded congressional fax machines and phones with letters and calls. The New York Times credited the group with halting the bill. “And we only had 350,000 members then,” Beck says proudly.

“The fax machines would run out of paper,” one Republican House staffer recalled of that effort. “They have a hold, an influence.”

TxAnn56 on January 13, 2013 at 4:29 PM

If the GOP wants to “get out in front” on immigration, they’ll say that any and all proposals MUST include a provision that illegal immigrants get NO public welfare benefits whatsoever. They MUST make their own way — or go home. This is one issue that has ALWAYS had better than 60% public support. Make the narrative what it is — Zero and the democrats wants millions of illegals signed up on the welfare rolls, so they’ll become dutiful little dependent democrats someday; they want to expand the plantation. Make THAT the narrative the democrats want, and the GOP will own this issue.

Rational Thought on January 13, 2013 at 4:19 PM

…well!…that’s rather rational!…the GOP never does anything rational!

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 4:29 PM

And the magic word of the day boys and girls is COMPREHENSIVE. This is the politicians way of saying that it can not be opposed since it is non bias, totally encompassing and reasonable; yes, it is COMPREHENSIVE!

Pardonme on January 13, 2013 at 4:28 PM

COMPREHENSIVE = BULL CACA

He is fooling the fools, covering up for all his other shortcomings. It’s all going to end in huge chaos, just the way he likes it. The poor will be more of, the middle class will be poorer. He and his will live like the Wall Streeters and financiers, all white rich guys, who keep him the Pimp of the World, while the Soroses thrive on the misery of the masses.

Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Do not focus on Mexicans. The southern border will be a floodgate for the entire world.

Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 4:28 PM

It is already.

Mexico is a staging ground for people from a lot of countries, some very far away.

CorporatePiggy on January 13, 2013 at 4:32 PM

I need to go watch the Texans embarrass themselves now. These immigration threads make my blood boil.

TxAnn56 on January 13, 2013 at 4:33 PM

If amnesty passes with even one Republican vote I’m done with the GOP.

Hera on January 13, 2013 at 4:28 PM

You s/b done already. If this is your threshhold you have a very low one. They are not much different from the other side, all in for their own power, exploiting production and promoting looting/mooching, just for glory.

Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 4:33 PM

This is a group of people who have already decided that they will ignore laws they don’t like. So what’s to stop them from ignoring any “penalties” that are included? Will they then be really, really illegal? Plus, unless the borders are sealed, one way or another, all the new law will do is encourage more illegal aliens in the hope of being included in the next round of “not Amnesty” laws.

Fred 2 on January 13, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Mohammedianism is on the rise in mexico. Hamas and Hezbollah have been targeting mexicans for conversion to be warriors for their lord, satan.

tom daschle concerned on January 13, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Come on – name one problem you libs have actually solved.
 
dentarthurdent on January 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM

 
the republican party. not completely solved yet, but we’re on track.
 
sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:31 PM

rogerb on January 13, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Everyone could just do what he did. How many Bill Ayers would that take?

2Tru2Tru on January 13, 2013 at 4:46 PM

“The GOP can’t risk getting caught with their pants down on this, and they’ll need to have a workable alternative on hand”

Why? We as conservatives have to get it through our heads that we’re an opposition/resistance party. There is no political win in anything Obama pushes, so quit this thinking that there is.

lowandslow on January 13, 2013 at 4:47 PM

…did you spell fellatio wrong?

KOOLAID2 on January 13, 2013 at 4:23 PM

In the case of Hussein, Rubio is not er…facilitating.
Rubio is cunning.

burrata on January 13, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Who else is going to pay the taxes needed to pay $100 Trillion in unfunded Social Security and Medicare payments…?

… You let that little secret out and they will be running for the borders.

Seven Percent Solution on January 13, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Alternate Headline: Obama’s Plan to Off-shore the democRat Vote

arik1969 on January 13, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Enforce the laws as-written. Aliens, that is, all non-citizen people, are here in America or on American soil at America’s pleasure. We don’t need any reason to boot them out other than that they are not citizens. To those whom this seems unreasonable or impractical, bite me.

gryphon202 on January 13, 2013 at 5:00 PM

If the Republicans don’t allow Rubio to lead on this, including helping the House write their bill, they’re stupid. Obama and company, in the Senate, are going to do everything in their power to stop Rubio’s bill from getting passed. Obama’s already stiffed him once and I’m sure they’re prepared to do it again.

Still, the Republicans need to force this president and Senate to deal with the important issues first and keep their eye on the ball. If they allow themselves to get bogged down in the mud with this immigration issue, they’ll be voting on a CR in 2 months. DON’T LET THEM DO IT!!!!!!

bflat879 on January 13, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Legalize them but no path for citizenship what so ever, not even permanent resident status (green card)… That is the least penalty they should pay for being illegal immigrants… Give them work visa that needs to be renewed every 3 or 5 years with a fee…

In my plan, that fee would be 5K for a parole document that would have to be renewed every 5 years. That would not include the cost of the EAD (work authorization card) that would have to be renewed annually. I would make the parole revocable for any misdemeanor conviction, would require automatic renewal of the parole after serving the time and/or paying the criminal fine, and non-renewable if the alien is ever convicted of a felony, aggravated or not.

And of course, parolees would be ineligible for any federal benefits, although they’d still have to pay taxes necessary to fund those benefits that everyone else pays. Also, states would have statutory authority to deny them state welfare benefits at their option.

NorthernCross on January 13, 2013 at 5:12 PM

If they allow themselves to get bogged down in the mud with this immigration issue, they’ll be voting on a CR in 2 months. DON’T LET THEM DO IT!!!!!!

bflat879 on January 13, 2013 at 5:09 PM

And this Rubio immigration push will somehow mean there won’t be a CR vote in 2 months?

What?

sharrukin on January 13, 2013 at 5:13 PM

bflat879 on January 13, 2013 at 5:09 PM

NorthernCross on January 13, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Why more new laws? Why not just enforce those on the books? If we’re not enforcing our laws now, what on earth makes you think we’ll enforce whatever new laws Rubio et. al cook up?

gryphon202 on January 13, 2013 at 5:14 PM

I worked near a federal building back at the last amnesty. One day there was a long line snaking around the building. Fellow workers told me it was the last day to apply for amnesty; I surmised that most of those eligible didn’t really care but were rounded up by activists to come in and register.

And of course Obama is still ignoring the people legally waiting in line. Wouldn’t want educated, moral, ambitious immigrants!

Cloward Piven, Yes.

PattyJ on January 13, 2013 at 5:17 PM

All who brung him, from the left, to the right, may he destroy you and yours, in full. He’s doing a fine job at it already, while he lives in grand style. You were all snookered.

Schadenfreude on January 13, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Well said.

thatsafactjack on January 13, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Rubio’s ambition is devouring him alive.

thatsafactjack on January 13, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Btw to get a green card you have to provide reams of documentation that you are a decent person.

- Financially you have to open the kimono. Even then you might need a US citizen to sponsor your application so that the Feds don’t have to pay you benefits if you try to claim them.
- You cannot have a criminal history – and yes that includes being busted for your antics in the Choom Gang.
- You have to pass an interview to verify all of this. And if you fail at that point you will be banned from entry.
- You will work and pay US taxes.
- You will NOT be allowed to vote – that is a federal crime, deportation,and a special place on the US no fly list.
- You have no rights under the US constitution.
- You will pay several thousands to file the paperwork yourself. If you use a lawyer you can double the bill.

Given that there are people who do this by the book, a lots in line, why exactly are we talking about letting 11 million criminals off the hook?

CorporatePiggy on January 13, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Why more new laws? Why not just enforce those on the books? If we’re not enforcing our laws now, what on earth makes you think we’ll enforce whatever new laws Rubio et. al cook up?

gryphon202 on January 13, 2013 at 5:14 PM

In an ideal world, we’d do that. But that would require a lot more funding for ICE (think at least 2 times as much) to search out all the people hiding in the shadows. And we’re not even talking about the cost of detaining these (at least) 12 million aliens in federal contract facilities, as well as the cost of hiring more immigration judges and ICE attorneys to have them ordered removed. Nor does it include the cost of moving such a huge number of people back to their respective countries after the orders are given.

Deportation by attrition, through strict and effective enforcement of immigration laws against unauthorized employment, would be much cheaper and could also work. But Mittens ran on that and he lost.

A restrictive amnesty program would seem like a workable Plan C.

NorthernCross on January 13, 2013 at 5:24 PM

A restrictive amnesty program would seem like a workable Plan C.

NorthernCross on January 13, 2013 at 5:24 PM

You know what else seemed like a “workable Plan c?” Obamacare. It’ll take a helluva lot more than that to sell me on the shit sandwich Rubio is peddling. He’s trying to outpander Obama. Winning is a lot easier when you don’t have any principles to hew to.

gryphon202 on January 13, 2013 at 5:29 PM

This would be the most idiotic thing that Republicans could ever do in the form Obama wants to do it.

Unless the path to citizenship includes a return to their former country, a 10 year wait to apply, a massive penalty, the ability to speak english, a demonstrated skill that would be beneficial to America, AND stopping the practice that leads to anchor babies, the answer should be an unequivocal no.

milcus on January 13, 2013 at 5:33 PM

This would be the most idiotic thing that Republicans could ever do in the form Obama wants to do it.

Unless the path to citizenship includes a return to their former country, a 10 year wait to apply, a massive penalty, the ability to speak english, a demonstrated skill that would be beneficial to America, AND stopping the practice that leads to anchor babies, the answer should be an unequivocal no.

milcus on January 13, 2013 at 5:33 PM

I have literally been saying this for years, Milc. There already is a pathway to citizenship. It’s called “the law as it now stands.” All we have to do is enforce it. Or did we completely shut down legal immigration and I wasn’t told about it?

gryphon202 on January 13, 2013 at 5:35 PM

You know what else seemed like a “workable Plan c?” Obamacare. It’ll take a helluva lot more than that to sell me on the shit sandwich Rubio is peddling. He’s trying to outpander Obama. Winning is a lot easier when you don’t have any principles to hew to.

gryphon202 on January 13, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Well, what exactly is the principle being offended by this Plan C? It wouldn’t reward people who break the law, and in fact it punishes them continuously. OTOH, if we go with the “deport everyone now” approach, we’ll have to increase the size of our government just to implement it. And that’s not even considering the level of big government militarization we’d have to implement to maintain the system at the border.

This isn’t a rhetorical question, I am actually asking.

NorthernCross on January 13, 2013 at 5:35 PM

immigration would be less of an issue if there weren’t freebies and requirements. Less administration and redistribution via government fixes 95% of problems.

Limited government is the answer to most questions.

John Kettlewell on January 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM

immigration would be less of an issue if there weren’t freebies and requirements. Less administration and redistribution via government fixes 95% of problems.

Limited government is the answer to most questions.

John Kettlewell on January 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Not entirely true, since a helluva lot of them would still come for the honest work.

NorthernCross on January 13, 2013 at 5:38 PM

How about a rule that if we catch you in the country illegally, you NEVER get citizenship. Ever!

sharrukin on January 13, 2013 at 5:39 PM

How about a rule that if we catch you in the country illegally, you NEVER get citizenship. Ever!

sharrukin on January 13, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Isn’t that the law as it stands now? If not, I’d be okay with making that change.

gryphon202 on January 13, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Not entirely true, since a helluva lot of them would still come for the honest work.

NorthernCross on January 13, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Jobs acquired via illegal immigration can hardly be characterized as “honest work.”

gryphon202 on January 13, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Rubio’s ambition is devouring him alive.

thatsafactjack on January 13, 2013 at 5:20 PM

What exactly has Rubio been offered in return for him aiding Hussein while simultaneously providing another excuse for the lynching of Republicans by media ???

burrata on January 13, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Not entirely true, since a helluva lot of them would still come for the honest work.

NorthernCross on January 13, 2013 at 5:38 PM

The work itself can be honest, whether or not it’s acquired honestly. And once they pay their taxes for 10 years for all the dishonestly acquired work they performed, all they gotta do is have a kid here and then the have options available at immigration court. {Google “Cancellation of Removal”.)

NorthernCross on January 13, 2013 at 5:45 PM

What exactly has Rubio been offered in return for him aiding Hussein while simultaneously providing another excuse for the lynching of Republicans by media ???

burrata on January 13, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Doesn’t need to be offered anything. He represents Florida.

NorthernCross on January 13, 2013 at 5:49 PM

How about a rule that if we catch you in the country illegally, you NEVER get citizenship. Ever!

sharrukin on January 13, 2013 at 5:39 PM

I always thought this would be kinda cool: round up all the illegals we catch and, instead of sending them home put them on a barge, point it at some place like Cuba or Somalia and give it a good hard shove…

affenhauer on January 13, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Yeah let’s reward the illegal aliens and recharge that magnet that drew them in the first place.

voiceofreason on January 13, 2013 at 5:53 PM

I always thought this would be kinda cool: round up all the illegals we catch and, instead of sending them home put them on a barge, point it at some place like Cuba or Somalia and give it a good hard shove…

affenhauer on January 13, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Would make for great TV too. But would the American people have the stomach to see it happen to, let’s say, a Coptic Christian who sneaked across the border because he doesn’t want to live in a country ruled by Egyptian Islamist a-holes who’d kill him for not following “Allah”? Or how about a Venezuelan came here because Chavez wants to put him in jail for running an unfriendly independent newspaper? Or how about a Chinese Christian pastor who got tired of beaten up all the time for having the gall to run a church that wasn’t licensed by the PRC?

NorthernCross on January 13, 2013 at 5:59 PM

I always thought this would be kinda cool: round up all the illegals we catch and, instead of sending them home put them on a barge, point it at some place like Cuba or Somalia and give it a good hard shove…

affenhauer on January 13, 2013 at 5:52 PM

I think another rule that would help a great deal is to allow illegals to sue their employers for ten times their pay and benefits as well as $10,000 in cash from that employer. That would dry up the illegal job market immediately. Few employers would risk that.

sharrukin on January 13, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Would make for great TV too. But would the American people have the stomach to see it happen to, let’s say, a Coptic Christian who sneaked across the border because he doesn’t want to live in a country ruled by Egyptian Islamist a-holes who’d kill him for not following “Allah”? Or how about a Venezuelan came here because Chavez wants to put him in jail for running an unfriendly independent newspaper? Or how about a Chinese Christian pastor who got tired of beaten up all the time for having the gall to run a church that wasn’t licensed by the PRC?

NorthernCross on January 13, 2013 at 5:59 PM

I’ll admit to not paying attention: when did we abandon “refugee status”..?

affenhauer on January 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Doesn’t need to be offered anything. He represents Florida.

NorthernCross on January 13, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Oh silly me, I thought that inspite of representing FL, he still had to look out and act for the best interest of the country , the other 56 states too , that is.
**hangs head in shame **

burrata on January 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM

I think another rule that would help a great deal is to allow illegals to sue their employers for ten times their pay and benefits as well as $10,000 in cash from that employer. That would dry up the illegal job market immediately. Few employers would risk that.

sharrukin on January 13, 2013 at 6:01 PM

I like this way better…

affenhauer on January 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM

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