So… who’s up for that carbon tax?

posted at 10:01 am on January 12, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

I know that it seems like President Obama has a pretty full dance card these days… planning inaugural balls, raising the debt, taxing the rich and grabbing everyone’s guns. He may, however, still find an open spot for a meeting or two with his new EPA Chief now that Lisa Jackson is sailing off into the highly over-regulated sunset. But after stalling the Keystone Pipeline, putting coal fired plants and coal mines out of business and flushing America’s coffers into failed green technology plans and burning corn, what more could he possibly hope to accomplish?

How about that carbon tax? Yes, the brain trust at Chris Hayes’ show was talking about it before Christmas, but the idea is slowly creeping back into discussions on shows that people actually watch. And if the concept does make it out of the liberal trenches and into the halls of Congress, what sort of welcome should it expect to receive in the public square? According to one recent survey… not a very warm one.

A survey released today by the Institute for Energy Research concludes that voters overwhelmingly oppose a carbon tax, understand that such a tax will increase energy prices, and know that the idea of a tax swap is ridiculous. IER President Thomas J. Pyle said the following:

“These survey results are further proof that voters are wiser than many people in Washington. Voters know that a carbon tax will raise energy prices, will damage the economy, will hurt the poor and those on fixed incomes the most, and, if enacted, will result in higher taxes rather than some sort of tax swap. The fact that 67% of the respondents oppose a carbon tax is encouraging; it means that voters have not been deceived by those who favor imposing an energy tax.”

A few of the details from the survey include:

- 78% agree that a carbon tax will increase energy prices.
- 69% agree that a carbon tax will fall hardest on the poor, the elderly, and those on fixed incomes.
- 77% agree that a carbon tax will lead to them paying more for gasoline and electricity.
- 58% disagree that a carbon tax will lead to economic growth.

So obviously a national outcry against such an ill conceived plan means that Congress will just drop the whole thing like an apple with a worm in it, right? Not if your primary source of information is the New York Times. The idea is still alive and well, particularly among people who live in places where you don’t need a car. But will legislators listen? From the way the gun debate is going so far, I wouldn’t get your hopes up. The opinions of any given majority of Americans doesn’t seem to slow these folks down much these days.


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

The People’s Republik of Kalifornia now has a carbon tax. Just watch us go down the tubes. The same asses that “deregulated” the electrical market (to SAVE us money) have a whole new way to screw us with higher prices.

GarandFan on January 12, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Funny how on one hand, they’ll argue that a flat tax is evil, because it’ll unfairly impact the poor – but on the other hand, a carbon tax isn’t a problem at all.

Hill60 on January 12, 2013 at 10:09 AM

So 22% believe a tax will have no impact or will lower energy prices? It’s weird how consistently stupid 20-25% of people are in any poll. Doesn’t matter what it is. There could be a poll asking “Do you live on the planet Earth?” And 20% would say “Not Sure”

dernst2 on January 12, 2013 at 10:12 AM

The opinions of any given majority of Americans doesn’t seem to slow these folks down much these days.

Why should it? The idiot voters keep sending the same statists back to Congress; the congresscritters aren’t afraid of their constituents,so they will do as they please.

AZfederalist on January 12, 2013 at 10:18 AM

The same asses that “deregulated” the electrical market (to SAVE us money) have a whole new way to screw us with higher prices.

GarandFan on January 12, 2013 at 10:08 AM

IIRC, California only deregulated half the electrical market. That’s what screwed it up in California.

cozmo on January 12, 2013 at 10:18 AM

It’s a good thing the NYT is going out of business.

speekr on January 12, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Hill60 on January 12, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Because it’s for the greater good. A flat tax however is an attack on the poor and prevents the “rich” from paying their “fair share”.

Charlemagne on January 12, 2013 at 10:24 AM

At this point, I don’t believe the carbon tax is being brought up for the sake of achieving a carbon tax. Rather, I believe the purpose of its resurrection is to prop up the collapsing support in the green energy facade used to cover for pillaging the public purse.

Dusty on January 12, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Blast from the past, Obama the unifier:

“I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face,” he said.

“And if they tell you that, ‘Well, we’re not sure where he stands on guns.’ I want you to say, ‘He believes in the Second Amendment.’ If they tell you, ‘Well, he’s going to raise your taxes,’ you say, ‘No, he’s not, he’s going lower them.’ You are my ambassadors. You guys are the ones who can make the case.”

Fallon on January 12, 2013 at 10:27 AM

is a carbon tax patriotic?

tom daschle concerned on January 12, 2013 at 10:31 AM

is a carbon tax patriotic?

tom daschle concerned on January 12, 2013 at 10:31 AM

When Democrats are in charge, all taxes are patriotic but, sadly, dissent is not. Wha? Rhetorical? Oh. Nevermind.

Fallon on January 12, 2013 at 10:38 AM

I know that it seems like President Obama has a pretty full dance card these days… planning inaugural balls, raising the debt, taxing the rich and grabbing everyone’s guns. He may, however, still find an open spot for a meeting or two with his new EPA Chief now that Lisa Jackson is sailing off into the highly over-regulated sunset. But after stalling the Keystone Pipeline, putting coal fired plants and coal mines out of business and flushing America’s coffers into failed green technology plans and burning corn, what more could he possibly hope to accomplish?

…JugEars new term and ‘flexibility’ has not even officially started yet!…stock up on lotion!

KOOLAID2 on January 12, 2013 at 10:45 AM

The only consistent aspect of Barky’s entire “energy” policy is, “keep America as dependent on muslim oil as possible”

tommyboy on January 12, 2013 at 10:53 AM

it seems to me that lately the more the public opposes a government suggestion, the harder the govt pushes back and proves they can do it anyhow.

katablog.com on January 12, 2013 at 10:53 AM

what more could he possibly hope to accomplish?

Damn it Jazz… I thought you were smart enough to not ask really stupid questions like that.

Laws are only for the little people.

SWalker on January 12, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Not even lyin Joe Manchin would vote for this inthe Senate and hore house Harry would never let it come up for a vote anyway…and in the House LOL sure they’re gonna pass a new tax for Barry O and raise everybody’s electric bill.

bluesdoc70 on January 12, 2013 at 10:57 AM

How about a Carbonite Tax?! Anyone?

BigGator5 on January 12, 2013 at 11:02 AM

Just what this “economy” needs. /

CW on January 12, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Always heard if they could figure out how to bottle air they’d charge you for it. Apparently they’d heard that too.

onomo on January 12, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Hey, how about a fraud and RICO suit against the warmists?

RadClown on January 12, 2013 at 11:12 AM

The brave Republicans will only let Bazillionaires pay for the carbon tax – it is the only way to save the middle-class.

Panther on January 12, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Always heard if they could figure out how to bottle air they’d charge you for it. Apparently they’d heard that too.

onomo on January 12, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Careful they’ll start charging us for each breath. The less the better. And you thought Obamacare and death panels were unrelated to AGW.
/

CW on January 12, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Is it too early to start talking about hemp and light poles.

chemman on January 12, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Schedule the vote right after the budget is adopted.

pat on January 12, 2013 at 11:23 AM

is a carbon tax patriotic?

tom daschle concerned on January 12, 2013 at 10:31 AM

…and how will Congress ensure that they… themselves will be exempt from them?

KOOLAID2 on January 12, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Is it too early to start talking about a toilet paper tax?

MT on January 12, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Is it too early to start talking about hemp and light poles.

chemman on January 12, 2013 at 11:17 AM

You’re late to the party… Welcome to the Stout Hemp Rope Party…

SWalker on January 12, 2013 at 11:24 AM

…they are talking about ‘the driving mileage‘ tax again too!

KOOLAID2 on January 12, 2013 at 11:25 AM

…from the smoke in that picture…it looks like they’re having a pot party in DC again!

KOOLAID2 on January 12, 2013 at 11:29 AM

- 78% agree that a carbon tax will increase energy prices.
- 69% agree that a carbon tax will fall hardest on the poor, the elderly, and those on fixed incomes.
- 77% agree that a carbon tax will lead to them paying more for gasoline and electricity.
- 58% disagree that a carbon tax will lead to economic growth.

Since when do politicians care about polls that go against what they want to do to make a buck for themselves?

“The American people won’t stand for it!”

HA HA HA HA HA

Sure as anything, we will.

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 12, 2013 at 12:06 PM

- 78% agree that a carbon tax will increase energy prices.
- 69% agree that a carbon tax will fall hardest on the poor, the elderly, and those on fixed incomes.
- 77% agree that a carbon tax will lead to them paying more for gasoline and electricity.
- 58% disagree that a carbon tax will lead to economic growth.

Yet, you’ll get it, along with the VAT, financial transactions and wealth taxes. All in Obama’s hopper, make NO mistake about it.

Schadenfreude on January 12, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Obama hates people in general, the middle class and the poor in specific.

He is manipulated, paid for entirely, by white rich people on Wall Street.

Schadenfreude on January 12, 2013 at 1:55 PM

- 58% disagree that a carbon tax will lead to economic growth.

So 42% think that a carbon tax will lead to growth. That number trails the numbers in favor of unicorn powered trolleys by a few points. The gap would be greater if it were more widely known that unicorns don’t poop.

MJBrutus on January 12, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Well I’m in favour of a carbon tax on the wealthy! Anyone making more than $450,000 needs to pony up their fair share of this tax.

JFKY on January 12, 2013 at 2:24 PM

OT: This is off topic by a margin, but has anyone done any research on the newest Liberal wish list on taxing by the mileage a person drives?

DDay on January 12, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Supporters of Carbon tax legislation should hang from the gas station awnings alongside gun banners.

rayra on January 12, 2013 at 3:05 PM

So obviously a national outcry against such an ill conceived plan means that Congress will just drop the whole thing like an apple with a worm in it, right?

No. Congress (both parties) would immediately call for both regulations and subsidies for the apple industry, the EPA would go after the apple growers for harming an endangered species and declare eminent domain to acquire new land for worm protection areas and there would be a new tax to pay for all this.

ghostwalker1 on January 12, 2013 at 3:07 PM

ghostwalker1 on January 12, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Oh, Congress and the Regime say thanks for pointing this latest injustice out to them.

ghostwalker1 on January 12, 2013 at 3:10 PM

A marxist needs taxes to destroy the middle class & stimulus to bankrupt the treasury to feel secure as King as he resides amongst his oligarchs.
So, of course, they will bring it on.
Carbon tax
2% wage tax increase that won’t go to SS funds
mileage tax
flu vaccine tax
obamacare taxes
fiscal nocliff tax increase & pork bill
& more stimulus (on 1/15 all republicrats will vote for the 60 billion Sandy pork)
Endless taxpayer funded vacations.

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2013/01/04/taxpayer-bill-obamas-hawaii-vacations-20-million/

Belle on January 12, 2013 at 3:13 PM