White House may back armed guards in schools after all
posted at 10:41 am on January 11, 2013 by Ed Morrissey
Interesting, if only because of the near-unanimous derision that resulted when the NRA’s Wayne LaPierre proposed the idea a week after the Newtown shooting. Critics hooted at LaPierre’s detachment from reality before they realized that Bill Clinton had demanded and received the same funding — through the COPS program. We’ll get back to Clinton in a moment, but first let’s take a look at Barbara Boxer’s sudden adoption of the NRA proposal:
The Obama administration is considering funding many more police officers in public schools to secure campuses, a leading Democratic senator said, part of a broad gun violence agenda that is likely to include a ban on high-capacity ammunition clips and universal background checks.
The school safety initiative, one of several under consideration, would make federal dollars available to schools that want to hire police officers and install surveillance equipment, although it is not nearly as far-ranging as the National Rifle Association’s proposal for armed guards in every U.S. school.
The idea is gaining currency among some Democratic lawmakers, who see it as a potential area of common ground with Republicans who otherwise oppose stricter restrictions on firearms. Sen. Barbara Boxer, a liberal Democrat from California, said she presented the plan to Vice President Biden and that he was “very, very interested” and may include it in the policy recommendations he makes to President Obama.
“If a school district wants to have a community policing presence, I think it’s very important they have it,” Boxer said in an interview Thursday. “If they want uniformed officers, they can do it. If they want plainclothed officers, they can do it.”
The key here is if they want it. I’d oppose this as a mandate, and in theory, I’d oppose federal funding for it at all. Schools fall under local and state jurisdiction for law enforcement, not the federal government. If schools want armed guards, then their communities should find the resources to pay for it, not everyone else’s communities. Given the rarity of these events, armed guards will likely never be needed anyway, but that’s a peace-of-mind decision for the cities and localities to decide.
Butler County in Pennsylvania has managed to make this decision on their own, for instance:
Butler County had cut 75 teaching and administrative positions in the past five years because of a shrinking budget, but now the district of 7,500 students couldn’t hire armed guards fast enough. It had added a new insurance policy and $230,000 to the annual security budget in order to arm and employ at least 22 former state troopers — enough to station at least one guard at each school and every after-school event. In a town where hunting guns hang on the wall of the prosecutor’s office and the rifle team has won championships, the decision to arm guards had elicited a single protest. One family boycotted school for a day before returning the next.
The district’s hiring requirements for guards were at once simple and absolute: only retired state troopers with 20 years of experience who owned a gun and could pass a 60-round shooting test.
Cichra, 46, paced in the snow to keep warm and watched the first few troopers begin the test. He had been retired for exactly seven months on the day of the shooting in Newtown and that had felt like long enough. He couldn’t stand watching TV. Home improvement bored him. He had spent four years in the Army and 21 more on patrol — a career built on the hard reality of“good guys versus bad,” he said, and Newtown offered him another mission. He had three kids, ages 5, 14 and 17, attending schools near Butler.
“We might not like it, but the modern reality is our kids are vulnerable, and they need our help,” he said. “Nobody’s doing this job for money.”
As I said, I’d rather that cities and localities follow Butler County’s example. However, if we must have “action” by the federal government on this issue, this is probably the most benign and the most on-point we’ll see.
Let’s go back to Bill Clinton, who has joined the Left’s push for gun-grabbing legislation … and their approach to honest debate. After making hysterical and fact-free arguments about gun violence in America approaching epidemic levels, Glenn Kessler at the Washington Post gave him an epidemic of Pinocchios:
“Half of all mass killings in the United States have occurred since the assault weapons ban expired in 2005, half of all of them in the history of the country.”
— Former President Bill Clinton, at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, Jan. 9, 2013 …
Grant Duwe, director of research and evaluation at the Minnesota Department of Corrections, assembled a data set going back 100 years for a 2007 book titled, “Mass Murder in the United States: A History.” He used the FBI Supplementary Homicide Reports, which date from 1976, and then supplemented the FBI reports with news reports (principally The New York Times) dating from 1900. …
Duwe defines a mass public shooting as an incident in which four or more victims are killed publicly with guns within 24 hours — in the workplace, schools, restaurants and other public places — excluding shootings in connection with crimes such as robbery, drugs or gangs. (Note that this would exclude a number of “mass murders” that sometimes gets lumped into the data, such as the Beltway sniper who killed 10 people over a three-week period in 2002.)
Since 2005, when the assault ban expired, there have been 32 such mass public shootings, including seven in 2012, Duwe said. So that’s just over 20 percent of all mass public shootings, which is much less than Clinton’s 50 percent.
Actually, the worst decade for mass shootings in the last 100 years was the Clinton era with 42, although the 2010s are on a pace to tie. Second worst was the 1980s with 32. Last decade, even with the expiration of the “assault weapons” ban, had 28 such incidents. Bear in mind that these are absolute numbers too, which don’t take into account increased population in the US.
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Please don’t inject reality into this.
tgharris on May 14, 2013 at 10:50 PM
There are 3 cities on the Libyian coast with airports of note. Benghazi is one of them, easternmost. If you were flying in weapons heading east,, what would you pick? Tripoli is all the way west. 120 miles or so from Tunisia.
Stevens had dinner that night with who?
They were running guns, folks.
Security was kept low as to not draw attention.
wolly4321 on May 14, 2013 at 10:52 PM
You’ll have to pardon Babs Boxer. Just like Pelosi, Botox is taking it’s toll.
GarandFan on May 14, 2013 at 10:56 PM
“There is no distinctly American criminal class – except Congress.” – Mark Twain
Dr. ZhivBlago on May 14, 2013 at 10:59 PM
And what is your point?
Such a fact would work to excuse the lies and put the exposure on CIA.
Helps Hillary and POTUS.
No?
IlikedAUH2O on May 14, 2013 at 10:59 PM
I detested the dumb remark about Sandra Fluke during the last campaign.
If Rushbo wants to call a woman a derogatory name….just lookie here.
IlikedAUH2O on May 14, 2013 at 11:01 PM
holy fluck you are an idiot.
tom daschle concerned on May 14, 2013 at 11:06 PM
What the hell is she wearing? She looks like she’s about to lead a Jazzercise class.
And she’s an idiot.
LASue on May 14, 2013 at 11:12 PM
You really don’t get it, do you?
No, it doesn’t help them. How would it?
CIA? Yea,. They are all complicit and shifting blame in a shell game.
Jihad is legitimate as a tenet of islam? Who said that?
These gubmint agencies may be fighting each other in the aftermath, but they started out in concert with each other. when it falls apart they isolate and blame each other.
Look at f&f. Same thing. Blame game.
wolly4321 on May 14, 2013 at 11:19 PM
Lies, bullshxt, lies, distractions, lies, propaganda, lies, Boxer, and lies.
Kenosha Kid on May 14, 2013 at 11:35 PM
Where’s a fire hose when you need it?
RobertMN on May 14, 2013 at 11:49 PM
Low information voters will hear her and believe her, and repeat it ad nauseum. That’s why the democrats lie perpetually even after the truth comes out. They know the lies will be long-lived, because the media supports the lies and ignores the truth.
The Rogue Tomato on May 14, 2013 at 11:57 PM
Barbara Boxer would be the dumbest person in the Senate, but she’s been bumped back by Patty Murray, Klochubar, and Babs Mikulski. Between the four of them, if brains were beans, they don’t have enough to make a bee fart.
Clearly funding wasn’t the issue, and just as clearly Boxer and Democrats are desperate to derail the investigation because of what it is certain to turn up. Because if the mountains of paper and dozens of witnesses Obama is blocking Congress from seeing were in any way helpful to him, or proved he was telling the truth, they would already be out.
Adjoran on May 15, 2013 at 12:03 AM
TDC- yep.
wolly4321 on May 15, 2013 at 12:12 AM
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The only mistake ( maybe ) he made is not inquiring whether Ms Fluke was campaigning for herself, as well as others.
If she was including herself in the number of “needy” college girls, then the shoe F I T !
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Conservative radio talk-show hosts should have no boundaries on them for using legitimate words in common usage, whether others deem it to be too vulgar or not.
listens2glenn on May 15, 2013 at 12:28 AM
..what an absolutely horrid piece of of flesh this creature is; a festering pile of pig afterbirth decaying in the 103 degree afternoon Barstow sun is more appealing than she. A rancid, fetid mound of cow diarrhea attracts a smaller swarm of flies than she. Reminds me of a dumpster full of used Kotexes, she does..
..I want to vomit.
The War Planner on May 15, 2013 at 12:37 AM
OK. Calling a law student a “slut” during a presidential campaign in front of 20 million listeners must make sense to some people but I am sure not one of them.
She wanted freebies. I really didn’t care about her sex habits and using that term just generated a lot of heat and very little light on the real subject.
IlikedAUH2O on May 15, 2013 at 12:48 AM
Bingo! Yep, MSNBC and the rest have a new video and needn’t worry about any truth in it.
IlikedAUH2O on May 15, 2013 at 12:51 AM
Turkish embassy person.
And our people ask for more security and the high and mighty decline it, over and over.
Still makes no sense.
IlikedAUH2O on May 15, 2013 at 12:57 AM
About Boxer: I didn’t know that donkey squeeze could talk.
hamradio on May 15, 2013 at 12:59 AM
Every now and then, Babs (Oops, that’s Sen. Babs) has to demonstrate to the world how truly stupid she is.
Today she did just that.
Another Drew on May 15, 2013 at 1:49 AM
Oh, Babs will go down with the ship. She’s a fanatic.
mojo on May 15, 2013 at 1:50 AM
Pathetic.
Delusional.
Democrat tool.
profitsbeard on May 15, 2013 at 2:34 AM
Shameless stupidity. And a reflection on her seriousness as a Senator.
pat on May 15, 2013 at 2:38 AM
Charlene Lamb testified in sworn testimony to Congress that budget was not a factor in cutting the security arrangements in Libya. She said it was a policy decision to go with a “lighter footprint” in a “laughably naive notion that if we were weak enough, nobody would see us as a threat so they wouldn’t attack us”. Ok, maybe I made up the “laughably naive” part, but the rest of it is true.
Boxer is, as usual, being dishonest.
crosspatch on May 15, 2013 at 4:18 AM
The Benghazi embassy was intentionally left to fly in the wind and everyone who is paying attention recognizes this. Boxer’s screeching is but the sound of nothing but stupid usery and I’d bet she knows this herself.
Whether it was a Hillary-plan or an Obama one handed down by indirect suggestions or direct nastiness on the lawn or across the street from the WH in that Islam-associated coffee shop, it was certainly an intentional act to reduce-deny security protections to that embassy location — or to the staff associated with the place (either/or, personnel or location, “what does it matter”).
Lourdes on May 15, 2013 at 4:35 AM
If the only way to get this jackass out of the Senate is to give California back to Mehico, I say “Let’s do it!”
olesparkie on May 15, 2013 at 6:03 AM
There are many worthy nominees for absolute dumbest member of Congress (both houses), but Boxer seems to always find a way to justify her perpetual inclusion on that list.
If want to know why California will sink into the Pacific long before any earthquake forces the issue, look no further than who they keep electing: Queen Pelosi, Gov Moonbeam, their entire state legislature, and yes, Barbara Boxer.
NeoCon_1 on May 15, 2013 at 7:09 AM
Barbara,
Let’s say for a minute that you are correct and that it is completely the GOP’s fault that there was less money for diplomatic security at the time of the Benghazi fiasco.
Now, explain how that results in the GOP being responsible for the Obama administration ignoring warnings of possible terrorist attacks in Egypt.
Next explain how the lack of funding caused the Obama administration to purposefully lie about the cause of the Benghazi attack and use the full weight of the U.S. Gov’t to go after someone for exerting his first amendment rights in making a video?
You see Babs, even assuming that your idiotic first claim is true, it doesn’t absolve Obama for incompetence and dishonesty.
Monkeytoe on May 15, 2013 at 7:32 AM
Point to Schumer, since he’s in charge of messaging. I can’t believe the Democrats are going here, but then this isn’t for normal people, this is for the low information voter.
bflat879 on May 15, 2013 at 7:52 AM
Another glowing example of the wisdom found in California politics!
Pardonme on May 15, 2013 at 7:56 AM
I bet he’s a Republican HACK! Investigate his political contributions!
/libstupidity (let’s!)
Axeman on May 15, 2013 at 8:01 AM
What difference does it make who cut security–whether it was Republicans and their voodoo cuts in the unpassed Ryan budget or some guys out for a walk one night who decided to cut security for the Libyan consulate.
Axeman on May 15, 2013 at 8:11 AM
As I said the first time they tried this: Democrats had claimed that the only reason that cons don’t like big government is that they can’t manage it like libs can. But now they say that without as much funding as they can theorize, they can’t allocate a minimum level of security for one of the hottest embassies on the planet.
Cutting funding is bad. Cutting funding is bad….the first word on Obamacare was to “bend the cost curve downward”. We were spending “too much” (for an aging populace?) on medical care.
Axeman on May 15, 2013 at 8:17 AM
The “repubs cut funding” must have gone out on journolist, or the super-double-secret meetings, or Valerie’s texts, or whatever. I’ve seen them trying that one quite a bit lately.
Boudica on May 15, 2013 at 8:27 AM
It was already stated by state that funding had no role. Running lies is bad enough. How stupid do you have to be to run a lie that the administration had debunked. Really really stupid Senator.
scboy on May 15, 2013 at 8:47 AM
lipstick on a hag…still a hag…a hag in a pantsuit
crosshugger on May 15, 2013 at 8:53 AM
Of all the scandals we get to choose from lately, it seems like Benghazi is the one they are freaking out about the most, and trying to act like they really don’t care about it. “No big deal, just rethuglicans hyper-partisan hysteria, move along…” But really, this is the one they are peeing their pants(suits) over.
Boudica on May 15, 2013 at 9:01 AM
Senile ‘ol biddy. I cannot believe Cali re-elected her. What a bunch of goofs out there.
jake49 on May 15, 2013 at 9:47 AM
Gee, another bad case of plastic face. Her face is as phony as the rest of her.
{^_^}
herself on May 15, 2013 at 10:13 AM
Barbara Boxer should thank her lucky stars for Maxine Waters, the only person keeping her from being the stupidest member of Congress.
Tyrone Slothrop on May 15, 2013 at 10:42 AM
It would be so worth going to jail for punching this woman in the face, but alas, I won’t. I wish North Korea would nuke California off the map.
F_This on May 15, 2013 at 12:42 PM
This is so F’in dumb. Even IF you grant that budget cuts could scale back security at some State Dept facilities abroad, is it even REMOTELY thinkable that we’d start with… say, I don’t know… oh, I know, facilities in a country that just had a civil war ?
Come on already. Are you really THAT dumb ? Or do you just think THAT little of the people of this country that this idea wasn’t dismissed immediately.
Give me a break.
So even IF budget cuts were a factor, wouldn’t that STILL lay at the feet of the incompetent members of the Obama administration that, faced with budget cuts for security, thought Benghazi and Libya were the places to save money ?
deadrody on May 15, 2013 at 4:30 PM
Barbara Boxer is part of the reason California is filled to the brim with unemployed illegal transient/migrant people from other places.
If the government weren’t spending so much money on GREEN ENERGY scams and filling the coffers of corrupt politicians it WOULD have enough money to fund the government departments that should be funded…i.e. like our military.
President Obama and his minions have been VERY,VERY bad boyz and gurlz…..They don’t just LIE, they believe their lies, they spread their lies and their lies have bankrupted our future and killed many in their path….AND they aren’t done folks! Expect the desperate to come unhidged!
ActinUpinTexas on May 15, 2013 at 5:03 PM
Do budget cuts cause talking points to change?
djaymick on May 15, 2013 at 8:27 PM
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