WaPo: Yeah, Morgan got pwned last night

posted at 12:41 pm on January 11, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Normally I’d be tempted to just add this as an update to the previous post, but it’s just too delicious not to highlight on its own.  As Duane wrote in his GR post, Piers Morgan went from his embarrassing display in his interview with Ben Shapiro to lamenting about Shapiro’s “intransigent” performance with Mark Kelly afterward.  Eric Wemple at the Washington Post confirms that Shapiro wasn’t intransigent — he was just a lot smarter than Morgan and beat him at his own game:

And Piers Morgan struggled to find the appropriate strategy for dismissing Ben Shapiro, editor-at-large of Breitbart.com and a foe of extraordinary polemical agility. He started in on Morgan by contending that the CNN star had exploited the dead children of Newtown …

Patented outrage spilled from Morgan: “How dare you.” And then the conversation took a turn for the better, as Shapiro cornered the CNN host on a central disconnect of the ongoing gun-violence debate: Proposals are floating around to redo the ban on assault rifles, something Morgan supports.  But Shapiro wonders ….

Wemple then excerpts Shapiro’s challenge to Morgan on handguns.  Murders by rifle are relatively rare, more rare than murders by knives, for example.  Most murders by firearm involve handguns — so why isn’t Morgan backing a handgun ban, too?  Wemple cuts out the best part of Shapiro’s pushback, though:

SHAPIRO: This is what I wanted to ask you, Piers, because I have seen you talk about assault weapons a lot, and I have seen Mark Kelly talk about assault weapons. The vast majority of murders in this country that are committed with guns are committed with handguns, they are not committed assault weapons. Are you willing to ban handguns in this country, across this country?

MORGAN: No, that’s not what I’m asking for.

SHAPIRO: Why not? Don’t you care about the kids who are being killed in Chicago as much as the kids in Sandy Hook?

That’s the exact kind of argument that Morgan uses on his guests, but can’t handle when used back on him.  Wemple points out that Morgan seemed completely unprepared for his own tactics to be used on himself, and for Shapiro’s preparation:

Where Jones proved needy of a background screening, Shapiro was rational and on point. Where Jones failed to directly address Morgan’s points, Shapiro went right at them. Where Jones monologued, Shapiro got through his points quickly and shut up.
All those skills came in handy as Morgan tried to trap Shapiro by noting that Ronald Reagan had supported curbs on assault weapons:

MORGAN: One of the great right-wing presidents of modern times agreed with me.

Shapiro’s priceless retort: “So?”

It’s what happens in a battle of wits when one side is only half-armed.  In truth, it doesn’t take “extreme polemical agility” to beat a poorly-informed journalistic bully like Morgan … but it certainly helps.

Update: As Twitchy reports, the whining continues.

Update II: In a more serious vein, Michael Moynihan perfectly captures the dishonesty of Morgan and his entire approach:

None of this should be surprising, coming as it does from a disgraced former tabloid editor and ex-talent show judge. Indeed, a quick look at Morgan’s oeuvre, which includes stints at the News of the World, which was shuttered during the phone hacking scandal, and the Daily Mirror, from which he was fired for publishing fake photos of British soldiers abusing Iraqi prisoners, and one understands that Morgan is incapable of nuance. Take his description of supermodel Kate Moss, whom he dismissed as a “drunken, foul-mouthed, ill-mannered, paranoid Croydon girl with a cocaine- desecrated hooter and spots.” Her ex-boyfriend Pete Doherty, former guitar player in The Libertines, a seminal British post-punk band, is a “filthy talentless junkie who can’t sing.” They are funny lines, for sure, but one needn’t rush to YouTube to discover that Morgan is even more contemptuous of Second Amendment enthusiasts.

This is not an argument about the wisdom of owning an AR-15 or the judiciousness of outlawing certain high-capacity clips, but of the silliness of the Drudge and Morgan-style debate, which has abandoned reason for moral outrage. To disagree with Piers Morgan is to argue in bad faith, to be opposed to common sense, to be an uncaring, unfeeling tool of the gun lobby. Former CNN host Larry King, who Morgan replaced in 2011, told the Huffington Post this week that the show was now “all about the host,” where “the guest becomes the prop to the host.”

The Leveson Report on phone hacking in the British tabloid industry noted that in 2003 Morgan sent an email to a police officer who had complained about a story in The Daily Mirror, shrugging that “fame and crime sends most of the usual rules out of the window.” Morgan is himself famous, and has now taken it upon himself to adjudicate the complicated issue of crime—the thorny issue of America’s gun culture—by having shouting matches with paranoiacs like Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura. And in the process, he has, as promised, tossed the rules of responsible journalism out the window.

Nothing on his resumé indicates Morgan ever cared about “responsible journalism” in the first place.

Update III: Jim Treacher compares Morgan’s Twitter feed after the Alex Jones appearance and after last night’s train wreck.  Don’t be surprised to find a heapin’ helping of hypocrisy.


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we couldn’t care less little shits, don’t worry..

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Fair enough. ~S~

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Manning is a whistleblower and a hero.

Dante on December 6, 2012 at 8:54 AM

Die, scumbag.

M240H on January 11, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Alex Jones and now Bradley Manning? Has Dante ever met a traitor he didn’t like?

Alberta_Patriot on January 11, 2013 at 1:59 PM

nice to see that piers morgan is conservatives’ new chew toy. it keeps you busy so the adults can focus on solving problems.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 1:55 PM

So the Senate passed a budget today? The rat-eared wonder announced cuts to entitlement programs and a program to reduce the national debt?

Do yourself a favor and go Dante yourself.

Happy Nomad on January 11, 2013 at 2:01 PM

nice to see that piers morgan is conservatives’ new chew toy. it keeps you busy so the adults can focus on solving problems.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 1:55 PM

You’ve solved the problem of criminals getting guns and using them to kill people?

Congrats!

Good Lt on January 11, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Has Dante ever met a traitor he didn’t like?

Alberta_Patriot on January 11, 2013 at 1:59 PM

No but he’s called a lot of heros traitors. Last straw for me was when he called anybody who served in the military a chump (my word but his sentiment).

Happy Nomad on January 11, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Shapiro is another moderate conservative.

Although he did own Piers for his lame debate tactics.

Alex Jones just trucked through Piers b.s.

Say what you want, but Alex Jones’ interview has been seen by SEVERAL MILLIONS.

fatlibertarianinokc on January 11, 2013 at 2:02 PM

nice to see that piers morgan is conservatives’ new chew toy. it keeps you busy so the adults can focus on solving problems.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Go ahead, man. Start with fixing entitlements. That’s a nice problem for all you adults to work on, right?

Good Solid B-Plus on January 11, 2013 at 2:02 PM

nice to see that piers morgan is conservatives’ new chew toy. it keeps you busy so the adults can focus on solving problems.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 1:55 PM

By “solving problems”, I presume you mean, “how to take guns away from people who have done absolutely nothing wrong, even though the Constitution prohibits it.” Because you certainly don’t seem to care about such problems as the national debt, trillion dollar deficits, winning the war in Afghanistan, punishing the scandal of Fast and Furious, or cleaning up the mess in Benghazi.

Yeah, you’re the “adults” all right. But only in the sense of an “adult” bookstore.

tom on January 11, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Scratch the argument and just exterminate liberals.

The more I’m forced to deal with them, the more I want them wiped out.

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 1:57 PM

You sound like a peach to deal with yourself.

Good Lt on January 11, 2013 at 2:04 PM

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Silly child! You’re so arrogant and pompous you have no idea what you’re up against.

I want nasty lil you to stay complacent. Mouth off all you like here. You’re common, no one special. We have seen the likes of YOU so many times before.

If you want my guns so bad, how about hot-shot YOU come get them, in person. Bring your friends, too, Ace.

Let’s see what YOU have going there, Ace.

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Don’t waste your time with him. He is unable to speak the truth in his own heart let alone to the rest of us.

chemman on January 11, 2013 at 1:08 PM

rofl. there must be a point to your comment somewhere. Not sure which part of Ben agreeing with the left you missed but maybe you need to re-read the interview.

The left wants the GOP/”conservatives” to use the arguments of Ben. If we do the left has won. That’s the truth. Just like how the left wanted Mitt as the candidate “the only candidate that could beat Obama” the left cried. ROFL. Believe what you want but the truth is anything the left thinks is good really isn’t. when the left is agreeing with you its time to change course. Its a simple.

Ben gave up ground after ground. He made the gun grabbers case for them. The only way to “make sure” there are no Sandy hooks is to take all the guns. That is the left’s position. We all know it. Ben wasted time trying to get Piers to admit that. Piers will neve4r admit that. the game plan for the left right know is assulat weapons thus Piers will simply repeat that talking point. And when they get that and gobd forbid the next evil shooting happens then piers and the others on the left will cry for the handguns.

The conservative answer to Sandy Hook should be not to disarm but to arm as many good people to fight the bad ones as possible. Not to restrict but to open it up. To declare Gun free zones a failed liberal policy. to make people understand government can’t protect them just like they failed to protect those kids. Its wasn’t the mother’s fault. It wasn’t the guns fault. It was the fault of the government who disarmed those teachers because of emeotion. It was the shooters fault who for whatever reason made him pull the trigger. The conservative message must be if you want to stop the next Sandy Hook arm the population and teach them to defend themselves and thier loved ones. Don’t count on the police 15 minutes away. Ben never made that case.

Ben wants the mentally ill not to get guns. OK who but the government is going to decide that. Ben wants guns locked up as if the gun is a danger.

Ben says its handguns killing the kids in chicago instead of the massive gun control that makes only the gangs and thugs have guns.

then he thinks there should be “laws” to control who gets guns and who doesn’t.

of course the left wants that to be the argument.

unseen on January 11, 2013 at 2:06 PM

nice to see that piers morgan is conservatives’ new chew toy. it keeps you busy so the adults kids can focus on solving causing problems.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 1:55 PM

FIFY

Jabberwock on January 11, 2013 at 2:07 PM

You sound like a peach to deal with yourself.

Good Lt on January 11, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Why do you feel threatened?

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Why do you feel threatened?

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Why would I feel threatened?

Should I?

Good Lt on January 11, 2013 at 2:08 PM

who should own a gun?

Well if you are a unarmed slave you care who owns guns and who doesn’t.

If on the other hand you are a well armed and trained free man. You don’t care who else owns guns because you know you can defend yourself from them.

unseen on January 11, 2013 at 2:09 PM

I am always cheered by seeing a conservative use the tactics of the left against them. It does not happen often enough in my opinion.

I miss Andrew Breitbart. Not only did he do it but he explained it while doing it!!! May he RIP.

CoffeeLover on January 11, 2013 at 2:09 PM

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Let me make this clear.

You are NOT taking our guns.

Pretty much sums it up.

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Alex Jones just trucked through Piers b.s.

Say what you want, but Alex Jones’ interview has been seen by SEVERAL MILLIONS.

fatlibertarianinokc on January 11, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Everyone loves a good train truck crash.

Resist We Much on January 11, 2013 at 2:10 PM

nice to see that piers morgan is conservatives’ new chew toy. it keeps you busy so the adults can focus on solving problems.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Name a problem that you’ve solved…by not making it worse.

Resist We Much on January 11, 2013 at 2:12 PM

This is Hilarious.

Tim_CA on January 11, 2013 at 1:56 PM

My first thought as well. Spend money, yup. Analyze and solve actual problems? nope. Wrong feature set for that operation. Like doing math in MS Paint.

dogsoldier on January 11, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Why would I feel threatened?

Should I?

Good Lt on January 11, 2013 at 2:08 PM

That’s up to you. I don’t know you, and I don’t intend to start a new fight. Let us both back off until another time, okay?

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 2:13 PM

The Poor Bloke Brit, has taken a Bleed`n and Bloody
pounding for that young Yank,

hahahahahahhahha, ahem!!

canopfor on January 11, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Me likey!! +100!!

Piers Morgan can go get stuffed! He’s a cabbage who talks gobshite and just wants to make waves…

Scrumpy on January 11, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Name a problem that you’ve solved…by not making it worse.

Resist We Much on January 11, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Liberals will call that question ‘unfair’.

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 2:15 PM

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Oh wait! Like not lending money to people who can’t pay it back, after forcing banks to do that in the first place? Your ilk are a JOKE and a blight.

dogsoldier on January 11, 2013 at 2:15 PM

He’s a cabbage who talks gobshite and just wants to make waves…

lol….I agree!

(I think)

Tim_CA on January 11, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Why is Pierced Morgan still in America? Why are people asking Pierced Morgan what laws he thinks we should have for ourselves?

This is all the worst sort of farce. Pierced Morgan needs to be sent the way of the earlier redcoats, back to the monarchy that is his actual country. He is not welcome in America. And he can take the Indonesian (another British subject with nothing but contempt for America) with him.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 11, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Oh wait! Like not lending money to people who can’t pay it back, after forcing banks to do that in the first place? Your ilk are a JOKE and a blight.

dogsoldier on January 11, 2013 at 2:15 PM

You’re too polite, too much a gentleman, when it comes to dealing with liberals. :-)

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Name a problem that you’ve solved…by not making it worse.

Resist We Much on January 11, 2013 at 2:12 PM

They will say they fixed the economy; until the flu came along.

You know, they realy did fix the economy. It is just that economic activity, or lack thereof, got in the way.

Jabberwock on January 11, 2013 at 2:18 PM

That’s up to you. I don’t know you, and I don’t intend to start a new fight. Let us both back off until another time, okay?

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Fine.

Dispense with the “I want to kill liberals” crap. It’s amazingly counterproductive.

Good Lt on January 11, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Fine.

Dispense with the “I want to kill liberals” crap. It’s amazingly counterproductive.

Good Lt on January 11, 2013 at 2:18 PM

It’s only counterproductive to liberals.

That said, I back away from any combat against you, for the moment.

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Every conservative that goes on that show *must* ask him whether its true he was fired from the Daily Mirror for publishing bogus photos. It needs to be hammered into the nitwits that watch his show what a scumbag he is.

Midas on January 11, 2013 at 2:25 PM

I came back looking for libfreeordie’s explanation of how he would’ve won in place of Piers Morgan. I….I can’t seem to find libfree’s post.

Have I missed it?

Pale Rider on January 11, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Every conservative that goes on that show *must* ask him whether its true he was fired from the Daily Mirror for publishing bogus photos. It needs to be hammered into the nitwits that watch his show what a scumbag he is.

Midas on January 11, 2013 at 2:25 PM

They should throw in a little tidbit about CNN having made deals with Saddam Hussein to provide propaganda to the West for the Iraqi nutcase in exchange for access in Baghdad. Evidently, Pierced Morgan feels at home in such an anti-Western propaganda shop and vice-versa.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 11, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Have I missed it?

Pale Rider on January 11, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Piers wore a nicer tie.

Tim_CA on January 11, 2013 at 2:29 PM

I came back looking for libfreeordie’s explanation of how he would’ve won in place of Piers Morgan. I….I can’t seem to find libfree’s post.

Have I missed it?

Pale Rider on January 11, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Think Whack-A-Mole and go to a different thread.
It pops up.

Jabberwock on January 11, 2013 at 2:29 PM

It’s amazingly counterproductive.

Good Lt on January 11, 2013 at 2:18 PM

No moreso than trying to engage liberals in civil discourse, discuss facts, evidence, history, etc. *shrug*

I see no use in trying anymore.

Midas on January 11, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Morgan wasn’t pwned, he was beat.
He was the weaker debater, so he lost the debate, if there even was a debate. It was technically supposed to be an interview.

Arguing your case better is one thing, but convincing people is another thing. Even though Ben Shapiro argued better and was much much sharper and faster on his feet, I still disagree with him.

AlexB on January 11, 2013 at 2:35 PM

And by the way, Morgan knew Shapiro is 1000 times more coherent and eloquent than Alex Jones, and he invited him on the show to have a coherent and eloquent gun advocate speak his mind. At least for that all you PM-hating folks should admire him… just for that little thing :)

AlexB on January 11, 2013 at 2:36 PM

It’s only counterproductive to liberals.

That said, I back away from any combat against you, for the moment.

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Running around saying you want to wipe out, hang, kill and intend to ‘do combat’ with people you disagree with is indeed counterproductive if what you’re actually trying to do is convince them you’re correct about something.

“I want to kill you and all who disagree with me” isn’t an argument.

Good Lt on January 11, 2013 at 2:38 PM

nice to see that piers morgan is conservatives’ new chew toy. it keeps you busy so the adults can focus on solving problems.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 1:55 PM

LOL, what a clown, good grief.

I think you meant so the “morons can focus of f*cking things up further.” Or you would’ve meant that if you had two brain cells to rub together in that vacuum sitting atop your shoulders.

Midas on January 11, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Even though Ben Shapiro argued better and was much much sharper and faster on his feet, I still disagree with him.

AlexB on January 11, 2013 at 2:35 PM

I disagree with him too – there shouldn’t be any registry of weapons at all. :)

Midas on January 11, 2013 at 2:41 PM

“I want to kill you and all who disagree with me” isn’t an argument.

Good Lt on January 11, 2013 at 2:38 PM

… unless you’re a liberal, of course – in which case, it’s perfectly acceptable! /

Midas on January 11, 2013 at 2:42 PM

it keeps you busy so the adults can focus on solving problems.

 
The most comical part is that these are the kinds of things said by people still counted as minors under Obamacare.
 

I realize you’re probably still a child per Obamacare (<26, am I right?), but listen to people who know things. There are some smart, experienced folks here.

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/12/18/after-newtown-four-ways-the-nra-could-change/comment-page-3/#comment-2221664

Seriously, though, you’re 26 or younger, aren’t you?

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/12/18/after-newtown-four-ways-the-nra-could-change/comment-page-4/#comment-2221602

Fine debating skills there. Younger than 26, right? You don’t have to answer, btw. Not responding answers the same.

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/12/18/after-newtown-four-ways-the-nra-could-change/comment-page-5/#comment-2221664

rogerb on January 11, 2013 at 2:42 PM

nice to see that piers morgan is conservatives’ new chew toy. it keeps you busy so the adults can focus on solving problems.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Unemployment?
Black unemployed youth?
Middle class taxes up?
Budget?
Deficit?
Medicare?
Social Security?
Debt?
Children’s future?
Obama’care’ – is it care and is it more affordable? And why is Obama and the congress not on it?

Now you name solved problems.

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 2:50 PM

nice to see that piers morgan is conservatives’ new chew toy. it keeps you busy so the adults can focus on solving problems.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Adults and kindergartens are both indignant.

The kiddies are planning the innauguration bash, when not golfing, not “solving problems”.

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 2:51 PM

The entire gun debate is Obama’s diversion from the land’s disastrous jobs and economy state.

The fools will wake up when they’re hungry, in the dark/cold.

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Tyrants always eliminate their own crapweasels first. They respect the sheeple the least. They are only useful idiots on the ascendant route.

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Another Obama-problem-solved, the Arab ‘Spring’. It sure blooms.

Slavery is legal in Egypt now.
Women have no rights.
There are zero religious rights.
Zero rights for gays

sesqui is all for liberties. Her idea is to eliminate all who like freedom, so long as she and Obama get to be narcissistic kiddies.

May hypocrisy cause spontaneous combustion for all who practice it.

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Let’s get clear here, you libs.

You’re NOT taking my guns.

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 3:03 PM

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 1:55 PM

You don’t want me having having guns. So, come over to my home with you best coffee-shop friends. All of you, squid. YOU and yours–come confiscate my guns.

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Now you name solved problems.

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 2:50 PM

The crew on MSNBC were calling Vice President Biden “The Greatest Vice President Ever” this morning and were glad he was doing something in the limelight to show his usefulness.

“Oh”..one added..”He was certainly useful and busy in the first term and even more so, recently… in working with congress…”

My jaw dropped. President Obama’s most fervent supporters, hardcore Dems, even blacks I socialize with, don’t think O has done anything. And they see Biden as a bigger ass than I do.

Few Dems can cite any accomplishment. The war pullouts and Obamacare, if they think for some time. That is it and the wars were scripted by, VP Cheney, I tell them. That comment cheers them to no end.

IlikedAUH2O on January 11, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 3:00 PM

I really don’t like liberals.

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Progress and Forward

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 3:13 PM

If you want my guns so bad, how about hot-shot YOU come get them, in person. Bring your friends, too, Ace.

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 2:06 PM

neither my friends and i care enough to bother with little shits running their mouths.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:14 PM

IlikedAUH2O on January 11, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Obama has always needed Biden, to appear intelligent.

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 3:14 PM

It’s nice that he got a taste of his own medicine but in reality I couldn’t give a fig about anything Piers Morgan says or wants for that matter.

Best way to get rid of him is to absolutely 100% ignore any program that he touches in any way.

I did have to swallow a laugh though when someone insinuated that the Liberals are the adults in the room! LOL That is the real comedy.

SgtRed on January 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM

I think gun owners should be trained, qualify and be offered good gun safes.

Other than that, I grew up with — and went to ranges where guys with stuff that would have the talk show bunch wetting the floor ran around free.

Let Stalinists and Reeducation troopers try it in their neighborhood.

IlikedAUH2O on January 11, 2013 at 3:17 PM

Obama has always needed Biden, to appear intelligent.

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 3:14 PM

Even that doesn’t work. Biden’s 92 IQ outdoes Barky by at least 8 points.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 11, 2013 at 3:17 PM

rogerb on January 11, 2013 at 2:42 PM

why do you quote yourself asking the same moronic, irrelevant question over and over? not that it’s your business, rodge, but i happen to be older than 26.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:18 PM

I did have to swallow a laugh though when someone insinuated that the Liberals are the adults in the room! LOL That is the real comedy.

SgtRed on January 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM

People like you protect their right to be free, and that stupid.

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM

neither my friends and i care enough to bother with little shits running their mouths.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:14 PM

Back atcha squidly…

dentarthurdent on January 11, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Name a problem that you’ve solved…by not making it worse.

Resist We Much on January 11, 2013 at 2:12 PM

They will say they fixed the economy; until the flu came along.

You know, they realy did fix the economy. It is just that economic activity, or lack thereof, got in the way.

Jabberwock on January 11, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Oh, they “fixed” it all right. Now it’s stationary. None of that messy “growing” business.

tom on January 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Maybe cuz you never answer any direct questions with any kind of relevant fact or solution.

Name a problem that you’ve solved…by not making it worse.

Resist We Much on January 11, 2013 at 2:12 PM

You still haven’t answered RWM on this.

Come on – name one problem you libs have actually solved.

dentarthurdent on January 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM

neither my friends and i care enough to bother with little shits running their mouths.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:14 PM

But you demand my guns. So come get them. That’s not mouthing off. That’s calling YOU on your liberal demands.

You really have no respectable escape around here, sissypedestrian.

If there are any little shits around here, it’s you and your friends.

My guns are open for the taking as YOU demand. Come get them.

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Name a problem that you’ve solved…by not making it worse.

Resist We Much on January 11, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Cash for clunkers is my favorite.

1. It fits the pimp to perfection.

2. It has ruined the environment.

3. It solved nothing.

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Oh, they “fixed” it all right. Now it’s stationary. None of that messy “growing” business.

tom on January 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Yeah. Back in the day, a dot Com company said in an investor conference call that they were “not burdened by earnings ”
Was pretty funny then. Not so much now.

Jabberwock on January 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Come on – name one problem you libs have actually solved.

dentarthurdent on January 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM

52% moochers, harlots on the dole. They dignify parasites.

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Running around saying you want to wipe out, hang, kill and intend to ‘do combat’ with people you disagree with is indeed counterproductive if what you’re actually trying to do is convince them you’re correct about something.

“I want to kill you and all who disagree with me” isn’t an argument.

Good Lt on January 11, 2013 at 2:38 PM

OK, can they just go to the cornfield then? I know they sure wish us glad tidings and good cheer.

arnold ziffel on January 11, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Ignore all this gun control BS.
In the US,It is perfectly legal to build your own firearm.
No numbers, no registrations.
They’ve been importing kits for this purpose for a dozen years.
Prices have tripled in the last few months; thanks Barry.

dirtengineer on January 11, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Running around saying you want to wipe out, hang, kill and intend to ‘do combat’ with people you disagree with is indeed counterproductive if what you’re actually trying to do is convince them you’re correct about something.

“I want to kill you and all who disagree with me” isn’t an argument.

Good Lt on January 11, 2013 at 2:38 PM

It’s not meant to be an argument.

It’s a statement.

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 3:29 PM

I know they sure wish us glad tidings and good cheer.

arnold ziffel on January 11, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Hugs and kisses, love all around. I just want to laugh at them when they’re hungry, in the cold/dark, like the grasshoppers.

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Come on – name one problem you libs have actually solved.

dentarthurdent on January 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM

the republican party. not completely solved yet, but we’re on track.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:31 PM

“God damn America” — Rev. Wright, Obama and sesqui

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 3:34 PM

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:31 PM</blockquote

YOU are so ignorant you have no idea how ignorant you are.

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Kudos to Shapiro, who is apparently the only guy this side of Newt Gingrich who understands media cretins like Morgan are the enemy and goes on the attack.

Absolutely textbook demolition, attacking the false premise and attacking the person. Swine like Morgan and Chris Matthews must be attacked personally, because it is the only way to expose the hypocrisy.

All conservatives, libertarians and Republicans have to enter every MSM interview with the understanding that it is a knife fight. Because it is.

novaculus on January 11, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Leftists are never truly liberal or progressive. They just stole the terms.

Voltaire dies again.

You all deserve a Morsi.

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Ignore all this gun control BS.
In the US,It is perfectly legal to build your own firearm.
No numbers, no registrations.
They’ve been importing kits for this purpose for a dozen years.
Prices have tripled in the last few months; thanks Barry.

dirtengineer on January 11, 2013 at 3:28 PM

That right there is the fundamental problem with the libtard mentality. As in the Rush song Manhattan Project (about nukes) – “bigshots try to hold it back, fools try to wish it away“.
How well has the UN and the entirety of human society been able to control the spread of nuclear weapons? And they think they can eliminate guns which are so much cheaper and easier to make?
The widespread and readily available human knowledge and abilities to create guns have existed for nearly 1000 years. It will not go away. Even if they could outlaw the large scale manufacture and sale of guns worldwide – which they can’t, people will start creating their own from scratch.
Libtards like squidly are living in a fantasy world with no tie to reality.

dentarthurdent on January 11, 2013 at 3:36 PM

novaculus on January 11, 2013 at 3:35 PM

The kid did well on tactics but he had is facts wrong.

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 3:37 PM

his facts

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 3:38 PM

the republican party. not completely solved yet, but we’re on track.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Still can’t answer any direct questions can you?
Come on – you claim to be an adult soving real problems. Let’s see a real solution – just one.
Otherwise you really are just a moron running your mouth…..

dentarthurdent on January 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM

the republican party. not completely solved yet, but we’re on track.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Actaully, that’s pretty good. I would argue that the wound is self-inflicted. In many ways.
Eventually, the populace will see that things are not getting better and your party’s fingerprints will be all over it.
Things like platinum coins and IOUs are not the answer.

Jabberwock on January 11, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Hugs and kisses, love all around. I just want to laugh at them when they’re hungry, in the cold/dark, like the grasshoppers.

Schadenfreude on January 11, 2013 at 3:29 PM

LOL – yes.
But if they try to break into my house to take what I have earned, I will gladly (as Liam wants to) put a few pieces of lead through them.

dentarthurdent on January 11, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Come on – name one problem you libs have actually solved.

dentarthurdent on January 11, 2013 at 3:23 PM

the republican party. not completely solved yet, but we’re on track.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:31 PM

There it is in black and white: the prime directive is to eliminate political opposition. That is the biggest problem facing America: other political persons.

But in the meantime, thanks for solving housing crisis for about 4% of underwater homeowners at the price of half a trillion dollars.

Thanks for solving the auto bankruptcy crisis by killing off GM’s most loyal brands and creating a $40,000 coal-burning car.

Thanks for further solving the auto crisis by driving up scarcity of used cars to entice people to buy new cars. By the way, how can they afford a $300 car payment if they can’t afford a $30 birth control prescription?

Thanks for solving the student loan crisis by buying up all that private debt to pay for PPACA.

And while we’re on that subject, thanks for solving the health care cost crisis by driving up rates another 30%, then fining taxing the people who can’t afford insurance at the new rates, before kicking millions more out of their existing plans into federal exchanges.

Thanks for solving long-term entitlement obligations by decreasing the rate at which workers pay into the system.

On that note, thanks for solving our trillion-dollar deficit problem with the “balanced” approach of raising taxes on middle-income earners by a thousand dollars a year and not cutting one dollar of spending.

Thanks for solving all those mass shootings lining our streets with billions of corpses, by seeking to ban two-handed guns that look nasty or carry “too many” bullets, so that people have to use two single-handed guns with the same number of bullets split between two magazines, now with an extra trigger to pull!

Keep up the good work, adult liberals!

The Schaef on January 11, 2013 at 3:43 PM

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:31 PM

YOU and all other liberals like you, attacked us the day of sandy Hook. YOU never once said among us YOU have regrets over that hell.

YOU are scum, uncaring liberal vermin.

You liberals showed yourselves, YOU showed your liberalism.

The reason liberals want to ban guns is to keep themselves from being shot.

I rather they just be hanged

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Come on – you claim to be an adult soving real problems. Let’s see a real solution – just one.
Otherwise you really are just a moron running your mouth…..

dentarthurdent on January 11, 2013 at 3:39 PM

we are treating the symptoms as well, but eliminating the cancer on our body politic is the main goal.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:45 PM

The Schaef on January 11, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Oh man – that is harsh. You know they can’t handle actual FACTS like that…..
LOL

dentarthurdent on January 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:31 PM

YOU are scum, liberal. YOU showed that the day of Sandy Hook.

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 3:47 PM

we are treating the symptoms as well, but eliminating the cancer on our body politic is the main goal.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:45 PM

You just put the cancer back in office for another 4 years. How does that treat anything.

You’ve had almost 2 hours since RWM asked you to name just one problem libtards like you have solved. Times up, pencils down – you fail.

dentarthurdent on January 11, 2013 at 3:48 PM

The Schaef on January 11, 2013 at 3:43 PM

you know, i’m really sorry that liberals aren’t quick enough to clean up after republicans ruined the place.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:48 PM

you know, i’m really sorry that liberals aren’t quick enough to clean up after republicans ruined the place.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Liberals ruin everything. YOU are a case in point.

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 3:50 PM

you know, i’m really sorry that liberals aren’t quick enough to clean up after republicans ruined the place.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:48 PM

There is special place in hell for liars that make the devil blush.

nobar on January 11, 2013 at 3:51 PM

the republican party. not completely solved yet, but we’re on track.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Low IQ communist scum… You really think that you are going to establish tyranny? You parasites are greatly underestimating the Producers… All you prasites exist because of the producers money… Without us you will be starving… You think that you won an elections then you can control the country? You control much less than you think… Even in your communist party (aka democrat party) your White Liberal Elite does not give a damn about all of you parasites and they only use you to vote for them in return for the welfare check paid for by the producers… You are way much less significant than you think you are…

mnjg on January 11, 2013 at 3:52 PM

you know, i’m really sorry that liberals aren’t quick enough to clean up after republicans ruined the place.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Low IQ communist scum… The parasites aka the vast majority of the democrat party voters are the CANCER that is destroying our country… You simply exist because the producers are feeding you…

mnjg on January 11, 2013 at 3:55 PM

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Let’s get totally clear here, you scumbag liberal:

YOU ARE NOT GETTING OUR GUNS>

Which part of that haven’t YOU figured out?

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 3:56 PM

you know, i’m really sorry that liberals aren’t quick enough to clean up after republicans ruined the place.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:48 PM

LMAO…Friggin’ Hilarious!

(you can’t make this stuff up)

Tim_CA on January 11, 2013 at 3:57 PM

There is special place in hell for liars that make the devil blush.

nobar on January 11, 2013 at 3:51 PM

and i’ll still be there to troll y’all.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:57 PM

we are treating the symptoms as well, but eliminating the cancer on our body politic is the main goal.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Main Goal. Really ?
You deserve to be called names.
I always thought the idea was to govern. Silly me.
By the way, don’t hurt yourself down there in NYC. Bloomy just cut all pain meds. You’ll have to “suffer” some.
So, go break a leg !

Jabberwock on January 11, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Defending ourselves against our own leaders.

The contention is that the US public does not need assault rifles or anything more deadly since the idea that our government could go totalitarian is paranoid.

“C’mon… when could our system go that bad?” is the question.

I never heard and answer to it.

I will tell you what I just told alib on the phone who reads your stuff.

(The paragraph below was written before, sorry.)

Anyway, I married a native German and she was cynical about all news media. She really was. I told her that the media in the USA was the best and they try to be complete on every story. This was not that long ago. Most people trusted the media. Boy do I feel dumb. Despite a divorce, she still likes respects me but you should hear her on our media. “Can’t find lies in the news, here, huh?” She says. From this….

If our media could become as corrupt and supine as we have seen, I would not find it difficult to believe that any power or organ of the state or American society generally could not be co-opted and brought under control, even to the extent of perverting the most precious and important purpose it was created to serve.

IlikedAUH2O on January 11, 2013 at 3:59 PM

Let’s get totally clear here, you scumbag liberal:

YOU ARE NOT GETTING OUR GUNS>

Which part of that haven’t YOU figured out?

Liam on January 11, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Notice that this litte parasite communist scum is now advocating total tyranny… He wants to eliminate the opposition… The idiot does not understand that 70% of the militray vote Republican and 90% of the officer staff in the military vote Republican… In addition he does not understand that the majority of 80 million gun owners in the US are Conservatives and or Republicans… He thinks that he is going to send Malik from the inner city to intimidate us… LOL… The delusion is very strong among the communist scums…

mnjg on January 11, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Bloomy just cut all pain meds.

Jabberwock on January 11, 2013 at 3:58 PM

rush limbaugh hardest hit.

sesquipedalian on January 11, 2013 at 4:01 PM

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